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01:00:09 *** KenjiE20|LT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 01:00:15 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 03:37:31 *** KenjiE20|LT has quit IRC 05:41:50 *** Frankr has quit IRC 08:02:21 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:31:28 *** ODM has quit IRC 08:50:16 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 498: Change: add template for industries accepting Manuf... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/498> 09:06:09 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #714 (New): Removing climate check from sheep farm causes grf... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/714> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #713 (New): Existing language translations might be out of sy... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/713> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #712: Bakery not building in Tropic <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/712#change-1899" target="_blank">http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/712#change-1899> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #712 (New): Bakery not building in Tropic <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/712> 09:22:10 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 507: Change: moved sandpit to ID 0A to removed ID confli... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/507> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 506: Change: removed climate checks from cargo icons <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/506> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #712 (Closed): Bakery not building in Tropic <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/712#change-1901" target="_blank">http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/712#change-1901> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #714 (Closed): Removing climate check from sheep farm causes ... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/714#change-1900" target="_blank">http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/714#change-1900> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 505: Change: removed climate check from Sheep Farm <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/505> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 504: Change: removed climate check from Mixed Farm <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/504> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 503: Change: removed climate check from Fruit Plantation... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/503> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 502: Change: removed climate check from Dredging Site <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/502> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 501: Change: removed climate check from Dairy Farm <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/501> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #714 (Closed): Removing climate check from sheep farm causes ... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/714> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 500: Change: removed climate check code from some indust... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/500> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 499: Change: removed climate check from Bakery <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/499> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #712 (Closed): Bakery not building in Tropic <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/712> 09:38:13 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 508: Change: ordered industry IDs in ids.pnfo for ease o... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/508> 09:38:38 *** Hyronymus has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:54:18 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 513: Feature: Sand Pit water animation sucks slightly le... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/513> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 512: Change: removed industry ID definition for Resort H... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/512> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 511: Change: removed industry ID definitions for Sugar R... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/511> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 510: Change: removed industry ID definitions for Cane Pl... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/510> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 509: Change: removed Windmill ID definition from ids.pnfo <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/509> 10:02:43 <andythenorth> planetmaker: hi hi 10:02:56 <planetmaker> hi 10:06:39 <andythenorth> Tile code for snow / desert bends my brain. I am trying a simple templating solution to avoid copy-paste hell. It's probably easiest if I code it, commit, and then maybe would you see if you think it's a good solution? 10:07:57 <planetmaker> it's certainly a solution :-) If the code works - why not? :-) 10:08:10 <planetmaker> it's not like you're a bad nfo coder ;-) 10:08:46 <andythenorth> it's a question of good design patterns I guess 10:09:00 <planetmaker> well... yes :-) 10:09:46 <planetmaker> don't expect much review from me till Monday night, though. I'll hit the road in an hour and only be back late Sunday night 10:12:52 <andythenorth> ok :) 10:14:30 <planetmaker> but I'm looking forward to a solution :-) 10:26:21 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 514: Feature: improved terrain awareness for Sand Pit; i... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/514> 12:07:22 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:18:51 <Ammler> good day all 13:19:20 <Ammler> planetmaker: athansios tried to use the 32bpp project, he wasn't able to clone 14:34:55 *** DJNekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:35:38 <DJNekkid> hi all 15:10:36 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:19:52 *** DJNekkid has quit IRC 16:22:59 *** djnekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:23:05 <djnekkid> hi from ubuntu :) 16:26:31 <Hirundo> loud and clear :) 16:34:04 <djnekkid> trying to set up samba... 16:34:08 <djnekkid> dont seem to be overeasy 16:34:11 <djnekkid> hehe 16:34:24 <djnekkid> it apparently wont download itselves 16:35:29 <Ammler> He :-) 16:35:34 <Ammler> you need samba server? 16:35:41 <djnekkid> yes ... 16:35:43 <Ammler> samba client should be already there 16:35:48 <djnekkid> iirc is that the "wondows sharing" thingy 16:36:04 <KenjiE20> yup, samba's not that hard to set up 16:36:19 <KenjiE20> defaults work for the most part just fine 16:36:22 <djnekkid> there is a samba-dir in /etc 16:36:36 <djnekkid> with a smb.conf 16:37:10 <Ammler> oh, you like to do it the geeky way :-) 16:37:19 <djnekkid> hehe ... 16:37:23 <djnekkid> i dont remember any other... 16:37:24 <KenjiE20> SWAT / Webmin FTW 16:38:05 <Rubidium> samba is something I literally installed last half a decade ago 16:38:07 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 517: Fix: Brewery sprites were broken for standard terra... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/517> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 516: Feature: Brewery snow sprites <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/516> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 515: Change: snow sprites in source for Brewery <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/515> 16:38:18 <Ammler> oh, I always forgot, you don't have yast :-) 16:39:29 <Ammler> I used it quite a long time, as sometimes I need to connect a windows pc too :-) 16:39:49 <djnekkid> my thoughts were to use this box as a file-server 16:40:08 <djnekkid> plus web and other things 16:40:30 <KenjiE20> djnekkid: www.webmin.com <-- I recommend putting that on, so you can manage the entire system 16:40:31 <Rubidium> Ammler: whenever I need connection from a Windows machine... HG is more than enough :) 16:40:42 <Ammler> hehe 16:40:45 <djnekkid> hehe 16:41:10 <djnekkid> i guess i could use an ftp-server... 16:41:33 <Ammler> I don't think, I will add mercurial to my media archive 16:41:48 <Ammler> djnekkid: samba is much better 16:42:00 <KenjiE20> ^ 16:42:00 <djnekkid> that were my thoughts also... 16:42:20 <djnekkid> but its about 10 years sinse last time i were fiddling with linux 16:42:30 <Ammler> just install it 16:42:32 <KenjiE20> webmin, seriously 16:42:35 <Ammler> abt-get samba 16:42:56 <Ammler> might be something else :-) 16:44:07 <djnekkid> djnekkid@djnekkid-desktop:/$ sudo apt-get install samba4 16:44:09 <djnekkid> Reading package lists... Done 16:44:11 <djnekkid> Building dependency tree 16:44:12 <djnekkid> Reading state information... Done 16:44:14 <djnekkid> E: Couldn't find package samba4 16:44:25 <Rubidium> samba4... you've got balls 16:44:28 <Ammler> why 4? 16:44:35 <djnekkid> it told me to do so 16:44:39 <KenjiE20> lol samba4 16:44:41 <Rubidium> what is 'it' 16:44:53 <djnekkid> the ubuntu :) 16:44:54 <Ammler> don't use 10 years old todos 16:45:08 <Ammler> howtos* 16:45:15 <Rubidium> ubuntu is absolutely and totally insance 16:45:20 <KenjiE20> ^ 16:45:21 <Rubidium> ubuntu is absolutely and totally *insane* 16:45:26 <KenjiE20> ^ too 16:45:29 <KenjiE20> :P 16:45:45 <djnekkid> hehe, wrong choise with ubuntu i smell? 16:45:53 <Rubidium> ofcourse we all knew they package alpha quality material, but this... 16:46:29 <djnekkid> perhaps i'll get my old friend, the redhat :) 16:46:45 <Rubidium> well.. just install samba instead of samba4 16:46:48 <KenjiE20> I like Slackware, but that requires you know your way around a system, even if you read a map now and then 16:47:25 * Ammler uses samba 3.4.2 16:48:01 <KenjiE20> 3.215 according to webmin 16:48:09 <djnekkid> i feel like a carpenter in an electricians world here... 16:48:16 <Ammler> djnekkid: just run the install command without 4 16:48:50 <djnekkid> kill me for copy/pasteing here ... 16:48:54 <djnekkid> Package samba is not available, but is referred to by another package. 16:48:56 <djnekkid> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or 16:48:57 <djnekkid> is only available from another source 16:48:57 <Ammler> don't use experimental stuff as long as stable things are experimental enough for you ;-) 16:48:59 <djnekkid> However the following packages replace it: 16:49:00 <djnekkid> samba-common-bin smbclient samba-common 16:49:02 <djnekkid> E: Package samba has no installation candidate 16:49:27 <djnekkid> then i try the "samba-common" 16:49:43 <djnekkid> samba-common is already the newest version. 16:49:45 <djnekkid> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 16:49:53 <djnekkid> i apparenly already have it installed 16:50:08 <Ammler> what does /etc/init.d/smb tell? 16:50:31 <KenjiE20> djnekkid: that would be why you have an /etc/smb.conf wouldn't it now? 16:50:33 <djnekkid> if i type that ... "no such file or dir" 16:50:45 <djnekkid> KenjiE20: most likely :) 16:52:01 <Ammler> hmm, completely differnt to my distro then, I can't help you much 16:52:16 <djnekkid> hehe 16:52:17 <Ammler> I would as KenjiE20 told use webmin 16:53:23 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 520: Fix: missing pcx file for Brewery snow sprites <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/520> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 519: Feature: snow sprites for Dairy <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/519> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 518: Change: added snow to Dairy source graphics <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/518> 16:53:45 <Ammler> where does ubuntu have the service scripts? 16:54:08 <Ammler> which are then linked from the rc.d... 16:54:12 <KenjiE20> /etc/obtusehexstring/rc.d probably 16:54:46 <djnekkid> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libnet-ssleay-perl 16:54:56 <djnekkid> when trying to install webmin 16:55:13 <Ammler> you installed with apt-get? 16:55:31 <KenjiE20> pretty certain that's entirely optional 16:56:03 <Ammler> just in general, install everything you need with available ubuntu repos 16:56:06 <KenjiE20> but as previously stated, Ubuntu is bat-droppings insane 16:56:29 <Ammler> if the software isn't available from a repo, it isn't mostlikely not worht installing 16:57:08 <Rubidium> Ammler: so OpenTTD (0.7.5) is not work installing on Ubuntu :) 16:57:18 <Rubidium> I agree with you on that though :) 16:57:21 <djnekkid> i found it on sourceforge, webmin......deb 16:57:23 <Rubidium> stupid pulseaudio crap 16:57:28 <Ammler> Rubidium: :-D 16:57:38 <KenjiE20> Ubuntu is probably not worth installing on Ubuntu :P 16:57:52 <Ammler> hmm, yeah, someone explained about openttd using 125% of its core 16:58:23 <Rubidium> install Gentoo on Ubuntu :) 16:58:25 <Ammler> and my old cpu using around 20% 16:58:35 <KenjiE20> hehe Gentoo 16:58:45 <Rubidium> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gentoo 16:59:27 <djnekkid> hmm ... i think i might install redhat instead ... 16:59:28 <KenjiE20> I learned a good chunk of Linux from Gentoo back-in-the-day, then gave up as it was a pain on crappy connections 16:59:37 <Ammler> djnekkid: try to join with other ubuntu users 16:59:47 <Ammler> they could help you better then we ;-) 16:59:47 <djnekkid> tht atleast have thoose nice RPM's 17:00:15 <djnekkid> i prefer bothering people i know, then people i dont know :P 17:00:17 <Rubidium> KenjiE20: but not that Gentoo, I'm talking about the FIRST Gentoo, not the second one 17:00:25 <KenjiE20> ah 17:00:25 <Ammler> well, rpm is just another extension, deb is kinda the same 17:00:47 * KenjiE20 prefers tgz :P 17:01:01 <Rubidium> uri ftw :) 17:01:06 <Ammler> KenjiE20: but you have scripts there too? 17:01:15 <KenjiE20> scripts? 17:01:35 <Ammler> pre/post install etc. 17:01:50 <Ammler> dependency check 17:02:21 <Ammler> or do you need to check that manually? 17:02:39 <KenjiE20> manually, finer control over crap on the system :) 17:02:44 <djnekkid> what command shows my IP-adr? 17:02:50 <Ammler> ip a 17:03:09 * djnekkid is embaresed 17:03:19 <Rubidium> for what it's worth Gentoo was included in Debian even before the first Enoch release (later to be renamed to Gentoo) 17:03:59 <KenjiE20> the most scripting a slackbuild has is a doinst.sh in it 17:04:23 <KenjiE20> most of which are about ~500bytes 17:04:58 <djnekkid> i can apparently via the GUI access other windows shares... 17:05:19 <KenjiE20> that's not the samba server though 17:05:40 <Ammler> well, most rpms work also without pre/post scripts, but the dependency check is IMO eseential 17:05:41 <KenjiE20> that's mount CIFS/SMBFS 17:06:18 <Ammler> and with proper repo setup, you never need to care about that 17:06:21 <KenjiE20> Ammler: meh, I've had very little require depends that I've had to go and get 17:06:24 <djnekkid> KenjiE20: it sertainly is not, but its sorta closer :) 17:06:41 <KenjiE20> djnekkid: not really 17:06:54 <KenjiE20> isn't that the opposite of what you want? 17:06:55 <Ammler> djnekkid: that is the client :-) 17:07:15 <Ammler> which you have mostly installed per default 17:07:30 <djnekkid> what i _really_ wanted were to get one quite specific file over to my laptop from this computer... 17:07:42 <Rubidium> winscp 17:07:51 <djnekkid> as my work-laptop crashed the other day (the screen/panel) got foobed 17:07:59 <Ammler> or HG :-P 17:08:12 <Ammler> hg init && hg serve 17:08:20 <KenjiE20> HAL 17:08:26 <KenjiE20> :P 17:08:27 <djnekkid> so i took out the HD, put it in this machine, copied over the essencial stuff, zero level formated it, and sent it to the IT-department :) 17:08:51 <Rubidium> before finding out you also zeroed your own HDD 17:08:59 <KenjiE20> hehe 17:09:12 <djnekkid> well, luckily i didnt not do that... 17:09:50 <Ammler> you didn't want the IT department get your warez/p0rn 17:10:10 <Ammler> I would guess, they don't care... 17:11:27 <djnekkid> well... 17:11:41 <djnekkid> the IT-department supply us with a locked version of windows xp 17:11:49 <djnekkid> i dont like haveing my windows locked, so i unlock it 17:12:24 <djnekkid> but sending in a HDD with unlocked windows, and with LOTS of stuff installed ... 17:12:27 <djnekkid> kinda grayzone 17:23:33 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 524: Fix: forgot to add tiles and layout files for Dairy <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/524> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 523: Add: tiles and layout files for Bakery <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/523> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 522: Add: snow sprites pcx for Bakery <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/522> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 521: Change: snow sprites in source for Bakery <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/521> 17:24:37 <djnekkid> is my GFX card (an OLD ati) usually autofound and installed drivers for when i installed the system? 17:25:16 <Ammler> well, kinda 17:25:29 <Ammler> but not with the vendor driver 17:25:45 <Ammler> which might be better 17:26:47 <Ammler> specially if you need 3d, you need mostly to install the proprietery driver 17:27:03 <djnekkid> oki... 17:29:55 <Ammler> but they should also offer repos for easy install 17:30:09 <djnekkid> it looks like they do, i just dont remember what card i have :P 17:30:26 <djnekkid> anyway, it seems like i might be better off with a more server-based distro 17:35:27 <djnekkid> fedora 5 core 17:35:37 <djnekkid> seems to be a good choise ? 17:48:52 <Ammler> djnekkid: everyone here uses another distro, it is kinda stupid question :-) 17:49:24 <Ammler> well, maybe nobody uses fedora.... 17:50:56 <Ammler> as I started using Linux, my distro was just the one with nicest boxes in the book stores 17:52:25 <Ammler> isn't there somethng like favorite Norwegian distro? 18:08:45 <KenjiE20> distrowatch.com <-- pick one :P 18:09:36 <KenjiE20> also Fedora is No2 so I guess some people use it :) 18:11:44 <Ammler> I ment here=this channel 18:12:29 <KenjiE20> you never said 'here' 18:13:29 <Ammler> true :-P 18:13:32 <Ammler> what is Mint? 18:13:47 <Ammler> never heard about that distro 18:13:52 <KenjiE20> /dev/hda3 94G 89G 284M 100% /media/store <- uhoh finish d/l finish 18:14:12 <KenjiE20> Mint is Ubuntu with packages that make sense, like mp3 18:14:58 <Ammler> which page do they use for the stats? 18:15:13 <KenjiE20> the distros info page iirc 18:23:09 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:30:19 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 525: Change: added snow to Aluminium Plant source (not f... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/525> 22:46:01 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 527: Feature: snow sprites for Aluminium Plant <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/527> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 526: Add: snow sprites pcx for Aluminium Plant <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/526> 23:21:23 *** ODM has quit IRC 23:57:30 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone