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00:05:11 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 00:05:25 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 01:10:27 *** KenjiE20|LT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 01:10:30 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 02:47:54 *** KenjiE20|LT has quit IRC 03:14:36 *** PeterT has quit IRC 03:45:16 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Code Review #717: Source files <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/717#change-1909> 04:11:14 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 05:21:09 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 05:21:12 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX 32bpp - Support #716: Just another 32bpp project? <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/716#change-1910> 05:21:24 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 05:34:40 *** Frankr has quit IRC 08:02:49 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:54:06 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX 32bpp - Support #716: Just another 32bpp project? <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/716#change-1911> 10:37:19 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 10:37:25 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:35:19 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 12:06:52 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:40:30 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:42:26 *** welshdragon is now known as Guest2845 12:42:28 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:48:36 *** Guest2845 has quit IRC 14:18:50 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:29:19 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 14:33:29 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:41:26 <Hirundo> anyone here experienced with (gnuwin32) bison? 14:51:52 *** welshdragon is now known as Guest2864 14:51:54 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:55:19 *** Guest2864 has quit IRC 15:06:23 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:22:44 <planetmaker> not me, sorry 17:04:33 *** Hyronymus has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:58:21 <planetmaker> Salut Hyronymus 18:58:31 <Hyronymus> hi planetmaker 18:58:32 <planetmaker> any news with the 32bpp part? 18:58:54 <planetmaker> or something which we (I) could give you help with to get started? 18:59:05 <Hyronymus> nothing real yet for the 32bpp 18:59:44 <Hyronymus> well 18:59:51 <Hyronymus> when do you guys think v2 is done? 19:02:06 <planetmaker> well. Dunno really. I guess when DJN feels it is done ;-) 19:02:16 <Hyronymus> ok 19:02:17 <planetmaker> But that need you not stop to start ;-) 19:02:30 <Hyronymus> I was thinking of calling it TofW v3D 19:02:35 <Hyronymus> as a small hint 19:02:44 <planetmaker> My guess is somewhen the first half of this year. Might be this month, might be later 19:02:55 <planetmaker> he, interesting name, yes :-) 19:03:19 <Hyronymus> although I'm not sure how explicit 3D it'll look 19:03:19 <planetmaker> Well. For continuity reasons, I think, we should keep 2cctrainset. But v3D is nice ;-) 19:03:32 <Hyronymus> yeah, 2ccset is nice 19:03:46 <planetmaker> well. It's a bit till the first release, so we have time to ponder about that :-) 19:03:56 <Hyronymus> I reckon a seperate forum topic is needed 19:04:25 <Hyronymus> and is there a way to setup a repository or whatever it's called so people can see what is done or to be done 19:04:27 <planetmaker> doesn't hurt, I guess. 19:05:15 <Hyronymus> no, definetly not 19:05:20 <planetmaker> well. We had a tracker for OpenGFX with the missing sprites. Something like that might be possible. But I don't know that script really. 19:05:42 <Hyronymus> does DJ know perhaps? 19:06:21 <Ammler> Foobar made it 19:06:25 <Ammler> it is in the opengfx repo 19:06:34 <Hyronymus> ok 19:07:03 <Hyronymus> kind of worried what to aim for 19:07:09 <Hyronymus> I've had it with pixel art 19:07:21 <Hyronymus> but you can make nice stuff in 32bpp that way 19:07:32 <Hyronymus> if I limit models to 3D-rendered it may take ages 19:07:41 <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/show/extra/aoHTMLoutput 19:07:41 <Hyronymus> kind of a high treshhold 19:08:45 <planetmaker> Hyronymus: we might create a separate build target maybe for it: a v3 (which has everything) and a v3D which has only those trains which have already 32bpp. 19:08:50 <planetmaker> just an idea though. 19:09:18 <Hyronymus> hmm, nice thinking 19:12:31 <Ammler> Hyronymus: do you also consider the extra zoom levels? 19:12:43 <Hyronymus> they are a must imho 19:12:55 <Hyronymus> if you offer more details you should offer that too 19:13:09 <planetmaker> How does it work: can such tars work also with normal, unpatched OpenTTD? 19:13:16 <planetmaker> I must admit, I never tried 19:13:23 <planetmaker> shame on me. 19:13:25 <Hyronymus> you have a point there 19:13:31 <planetmaker> It's a question :-) 19:13:32 <Hyronymus> zoom levels aren't in the trunk yet 19:13:42 <Hyronymus> but you can make it a parameter perhaps 19:13:50 <planetmaker> If it's just ignored: fine. If not... it's a bit fishy :-) 19:14:03 <Ammler> no, and the current patch is quite ugly according to the patch dev himself 19:14:05 <Hyronymus> just thinking out loud here 19:14:11 <planetmaker> you may :-) 19:14:22 <Hyronymus> if you use 3d, can you mimic lighting and moving parts? 19:14:23 <planetmaker> we won't eat you alive for thinking loud :-) 19:14:51 * Hyronymus fears eing boiled first 19:14:54 <Hyronymus> *being 19:14:54 <planetmaker> Dunno. But I would guess you have the same possibilities as in 8bpp 19:15:07 <planetmaker> there it is somewhat possible via animation 19:15:23 <Hyronymus> probably more fleunt movements 19:15:27 <Hyronymus> gah 19:15:29 <Hyronymus> fluent 19:15:59 <Ammler> maybe, it is time to ask in the 32bpp thread about compatibilty with non-zoom (trunk) 19:16:05 <Ammler> afaik they aren't 19:16:35 <Ammler> extra zoom uses another naming convention 19:16:39 <Hyronymus> let's ask 19:16:47 * Hyronymus writes a post 19:17:04 <planetmaker> I really fancy the zoom algorithm Zephyris posted 19:17:15 <planetmaker> Given that algorithm another zoom level would be quite decent IMO 19:17:19 <Ammler> they have 3 different pngs for every level and the normal zoom in in extra zoom has _0 or such 19:17:27 <Ammler> the trunk 32bpp doesn't have 19:18:38 <Ammler> shouldn't it be enough to have the most detailed png and then zoom it out for the other levels? 19:19:22 <planetmaker> well. That would not be compatible. And having dedicated graphics is better than zoom out. 19:22:44 <Ammler> I don't think the current extra zoom level will ever get to trunk 19:22:46 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Redmine - Revision 3177: Accept filters from API calls without set_filter parameter. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3177> || Redmine - Revision 3175: Merged r3333 from trunk. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3175> || Redmine - Revision 3176: Fixed: PDF export of a issue list grouped by a custom field raises an er... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3176> 20:48:12 <andythenorth> evening 21:01:05 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:40:17 <andythenorth> planetmaker: 21:40:19 <andythenorth> oops 21:40:24 <andythenorth> planetmaker: http://tt-foundry.com/sets/FIRS/schema/scripts/output_industry_defines_per_economy 21:40:27 <andythenorth> done 21:42:05 <planetmaker> :-) 21:45:08 <andythenorth> planetmaker: and the python code in case you're interested - useless without the cms object database of course :) 21:45:09 <andythenorth> http://paste.openttd.org/220990 21:45:37 <planetmaker> you should commit that. 21:45:43 <andythenorth> massively unoptimised, due to being a hack of something created for another purpose 21:45:45 <planetmaker> add it to the scripts dir or alike 21:46:01 <andythenorth> it's not much use without the cms 21:46:22 <andythenorth> I could commit an export of the whole FIRS section of the cms 21:46:32 <planetmaker> well. Does that make sense? 21:47:01 <andythenorth> it does to someone who is unafraid to use Zope (double click install on a mac). Not much use to anyone else though :o 21:49:18 * planetmaker has never heart the word / name "Zope" ;-) 21:50:12 <andythenorth> 15 year old python, object based, cms + web application server :) 21:50:33 <planetmaker> O-O 21:50:43 <andythenorth> http://zope2.zope.org/ 21:50:44 <Webster> Title: The Zope 2 Application Server (at zope2.zope.org) 21:51:41 <andythenorth> anyway, I'm here to write industry code, not evangelise a web framework :D 21:51:55 <andythenorth> should I commit the *output* of that web script? 21:52:06 <planetmaker> well... yes? :-) 21:52:24 <planetmaker> looks fine to me. 21:54:03 * andythenorth likes the neatness of ''.join(some_random_string.split('_')).upper() 21:54:15 <andythenorth> converting meat_packer to MEATPACKER 21:55:54 <andythenorth> planetmaker: do you have a preferred file name for these industry - economy defines to live in? 21:57:08 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX 32bpp - opengfx32bpp-r1.zip <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/545/opengfx32bpp-r1.zip> 21:59:45 <planetmaker> andythenorth: well... industry_schemes.pnfo or vice versa maybe? 21:59:54 <planetmaker> would then be the same as cargo_schemes 22:00:47 <andythenorth> industry_schemes.pnfo is fine 22:01:40 <andythenorth> it's done 22:12:25 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 544: Add: industry schemes pnfo file <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/544> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 543: Merge <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/543> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 542: Change: work in progress on industry manufacturing ... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/542> 22:14:35 *** Hyronymus has quit IRC 22:16:38 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:27:33 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX 32bpp - Feature #531 (Closed): 32bpp: OPEN TTD title fonts <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/531#change-1912> 22:42:38 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX 32bpp - First Release! <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/news/24> 22:58:35 *** ODM has quit IRC 23:17:43 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 23:27:38 *** Frankr has quit IRC 23:37:47 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone