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So no more dropouts due to the the rain :o 20:30:27 <andythenorth> and cable broadband is being fitted. Suddenly I have more internet than I can use! 20:36:04 <Ammler> :-) 20:36:15 <Ammler> better than none 20:36:39 <Ammler> did you ever join the bouncer admin panel? 20:40:42 <DJNekkid> andythenorth: did you have internet via sattelite? 20:47:39 <Ammler> [21:47] <*status> | Hirundo | 3.34 MiB | 3.19 MiB | 6.53 MiB | 20:47:41 <Ammler> [21:47] <*status> | OFTC | 60.26 MiB | 60.74 MiB | 120.99 MiB | 20:47:42 <Ammler> [21:47] <*status> | admin | 0 B | 0 B | 0 B | 20:47:44 <Ammler> [21:47] <*status> | andythenorth | 505.46 KiB | 628.37 KiB | 1.11 MiB | 20:47:46 <Ammler> OFTC being me 20:49:33 <andythenorth> djnekkid: no, internet via a very old wire to a telephone pole 20:50:16 <DJNekkid> lol, oh 20:50:21 <DJNekkid> probably a "gray cable" ... 20:50:34 <DJNekkid> and the telecom guys changed it into a "black cabld" 20:50:45 <DJNekkid> (i used to work with that stuff) 20:51:44 <DJNekkid> brb real quick 20:53:49 *** DJNekkid has quit IRC 20:54:34 *** DJNekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:14:00 *** Frankr has quit IRC 21:14:48 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:17:34 <andythenorth> djnekkid: funny...you're exactly right about the cable 21:23:09 <Ammler> grey is parallel and black is drilled? 21:35:15 *** Hyronymus is now known as Hyr|afk 21:39:11 <DJNekkid> no, gray is old and is not filled with fat 21:39:43 <DJNekkid> the black ones are new (about 1985) and filled with fat 21:39:54 <DJNekkid> fat is water and UV-resistant 21:40:28 <DJNekkid> well, the fat is wateresitant 21:40:38 <DJNekkid> and the black PVC is UV resistant 21:42:38 <DJNekkid> so; when a gray old cable have been there for 30 years its outer layer (the gray plastic) gets "dry" and tends to crack open 21:42:47 <DJNekkid> that allows water to enter the cable 21:42:58 <DJNekkid> and water + copper = rust 21:43:06 <andythenorth> and that explains all those 'andythenorth has quit' messages :D 21:43:18 <DJNekkid> rust dont lead electricity particulary well 21:43:34 <DJNekkid> neither does a short circut 21:44:03 <DJNekkid> and if it gets windy the two wires tends to either short curcuit or the connection over a rusted spot gets broken 21:44:36 <DJNekkid> the end user experience this as either bad DLS connection (particulary downstream, upstream usually is ok) 21:44:56 <DJNekkid> or the phone connecion gets kinda scrambled 21:45:33 <DJNekkid> nail-on-head andythenorth? 21:45:53 <andythenorth> yes exactly 21:46:26 <DJNekkid> cool :) 21:46:30 <andythenorth> and we had it stretched over metal scaffolding for 6 months (which is why we couldn't call the phone company to replace it) 21:46:34 *** Hyr|afk is now known as Hyronymus 21:46:42 <DJNekkid> aha 21:47:08 <DJNekkid> well, now its replaced, and your downstream have gone up by, 2-300% ? 21:47:44 <DJNekkid> from like 1 or 2mbits to 6-8mbits? 21:47:47 <andythenorth> I haven't tested dl speed, but pings are 5-6x faster 21:47:56 <DJNekkid> www.speedtest.net or .org 21:48:24 <DJNekkid> my bet is that you were going on one wire the last leg (from telephone pole and in) 21:49:23 <DJNekkid> if you are not too far (2km or so) from our telephone central/DSL equipment it usually works on one pole, but the connection gets quite slow downstream 21:49:59 <andythenorth> interesting thanks 21:50:17 <DJNekkid> depending on the technology used (ADSL vs ADSL2(+)) your connection probably went from 1-2 mbits to 6 or even 10 or 15 21:50:37 <DJNekkid> ADSL is max 8192kbits 21:50:41 <DJNekkid> downstream 21:50:54 <DJNekkid> ADSL2+ have a theoretical max of 24mbps 21:51:05 <DJNekkid> max practical is around 20mbits tho 21:51:33 <DJNekkid> but that would require you to be within ... 250-350 meters from your DSL central 21:52:09 <DJNekkid> i currently have a 1700-some meter long line, and i have 14997kbit stable connection 21:52:20 <DJNekkid> 14997/998kbit 21:52:46 <DJNekkid> 15002/1002 and its slightly unstable :) 21:53:28 <DJNekkid> after about 3,5km you could have about 10mbits, but then it drops quite fast to about 2mbit at 5km 21:57:16 <DJNekkid> </dls for experts> 22:01:49 * andythenorth should I code something? 22:31:32 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 22:32:45 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 22:34:40 *** ODM has quit IRC 23:10:27 *** Hyronymus has quit IRC 23:49:57 *** DJNekkid has quit IRC