Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 29th January 2010:
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11:18:42  <dragonhorseboy> hey
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11:21:17  <dragonhorseboy> hey andythenorth ;)
11:21:39  <dragonhorseboy> some slight-lousy morning for me .. jonty's server seem to be down so blah here I am just sitting on the dead irc :p
11:24:53  <dragonhorseboy> andythenorth how's the FIRS work btw?
11:32:43  <andythenorth> dragonhorseboy: FIRS is close to having much nicer code for secondary industries, but I am buried in work work.
11:33:34  <dragonhorseboy> heh ok :p
11:35:57  <dragonhorseboy> anything else or FIRS is pretty much your only focus?
11:36:28  <Ammler> @fish
11:36:28  <Webster> I landed a DJNekkid that was this big |<---------->|
11:36:45  <dragonhorseboy> lol ammler..btw hey ;)
11:36:54  <dragonhorseboy> how're you?
11:37:10  <Ammler> so lala :-)
11:37:35  <Ammler> how is the dragons world?
11:37:45  <dragonhorseboy> heh
11:38:20  <dragonhorseboy> doing ok .. been having a bit better time working out some of the details on my project..might be able to start a draft plan list soon
11:39:43  <dragonhorseboy> btw right now you only can have standard or electric rails .. no way to add a third type that would be compactible with standard rails right?
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11:41:35  <Ammler> yes, I guess, that is so.
11:41:50  <dragonhorseboy> thanks
11:43:40  <dragonhorseboy> ammler btw I know that TE is limited to only up to 10x of the given locomotive weight but .. there's no limit on the hp figure tho right?
11:44:18  <Ammler> dragonhorseboy: again, don't ask me such things :-P
11:44:40  <dragonhorseboy> lol ok
11:45:12  * dragonhorseboy pokes ammler with a "how to even understand nfo" dummy book? :P
11:45:17  <dragonhorseboy> just teasing you of course hehhee
11:50:54  <dragonhorseboy> well so what you doing now ammler?
12:13:29  <Ammler> freeciv as browser game :-o
12:16:09  * dragonhorseboy rather play CivII ;)
12:17:44  <Ammler> you men the c-based game?
12:18:05  <dragonhorseboy> the what?
12:19:37  <Ammler> Civil as or what?
12:20:09  <planetmaker> Ammler, try freecol ;-)
12:20:35  <planetmaker> but it's actually amazing how many Free* or Open* games there are :-)
12:20:36  * dragonhorseboy wonders if you had not ever heard of Microprose
12:20:42  <Ammler> He, I have Colonization Floppies around somewhere...
12:21:01  <planetmaker> He... *somewhere* I have Civ I. The first PC game ever I bought
12:21:05  <Ammler> that was a nice game :-)
12:21:09  <planetmaker> Back somewhen in the 90s...
12:21:17  <planetmaker> indeed
12:21:40  <planetmaker> IIRC it's 4 x 720kB 3.5" discs.
12:22:51  <dragonhorseboy> well mine is a cd anyway (and nope its not going work on your pc sorry)
12:23:10  <dragonhorseboy> ;)
12:23:18  <Ammler> why not?
12:24:25  <planetmaker> CDs didn't exist back then when I played that...
12:24:44  <KenjiE20> cee dee?
12:24:49  <Ammler> my first CD was Warcraft2
12:25:01  <dragonhorseboy> ammler because the cd is for the other platform ;)
12:25:04  <dragonhorseboy> thats why :p
12:25:18  <Ammler> dragonhorseboy: macish thing, ok :-)
12:25:23  <planetmaker> that's what you think ;-)
12:25:45  <planetmaker> ^ @ dragonhorseboy
12:26:00  <dragonhorseboy> ammler... to be exact a powerpc 603e at 100mhz (although its ram controller is a bit hobbled)
12:26:51  <dragonhorseboy> funny how many decent games ran just fine (compared to the several used games I would eventually pick up for the pc a few years later and several of them just couldn't run well)
12:27:53  <dragonhorseboy> oh and I still got 'x-wing collection cd' .. its a bit early storyline but nice gameplay (and you're not limited to the x-wing's only .. some of the missions actually also use the 3-winged shuttle craft too)
12:34:50  <Ammler> planetmaker: <-- not a simple zypper install ;-)
12:36:41  <Ammler> I guess, that is for sound...
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14:05:59  <planetmaker> he. indeed. But it's easy enough to just download like OpenTTD
14:06:03  <planetmaker> unzip and run
14:06:09  <planetmaker> they've awesome graphics.
14:07:27  <Ammler> but I like also the sounds of those old games :-P
15:07:41  <DJNekkid> hi guys
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15:58:33  <Ammler> planetmaker: poor guy, you couldn't hold you back either :-P
16:01:19  <Ammler> DJNekkid: I added to the devzone again, so your links works again... ;-)
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17:14:19  <planetmaker> yeah... I intermittendly hoped that he really was interested in creating value.
17:14:21  <planetmaker> He seems rather interested in creating ... confusion, nurturing his vanity
17:14:29  <planetmaker> I already regretted to having replied
17:25:13  <DJNekkid> my links?
17:25:42  <Ammler> in your tt-forums sig
17:26:23  <DJNekkid> oh... hehe
17:26:29  <DJNekkid> cool...
17:30:25  <planetmaker> loool: "In the end, the uncertain nature of grfs always makes working with airports a bit of trial and error. This is not new, e.g. I could currently create a trainset that does not allow attaching wagons on mondays." (Hirundo)
17:30:47  <planetmaker> now, _THAT_ would be a feature.
17:31:12  <planetmaker> Best coupled with a random callback
17:31:29  <planetmaker> "sorry, today no work. We're on strike for higher wages". The true French trainset :-P
17:31:56  <planetmaker> (or whatever the current reason might be for being on strike)
17:36:07  <DJNekkid> hehe
17:36:53  <DJNekkid> im trying to figure out how to get Apache to work, and i still have prolems with Samba
17:38:29  <Ammler> DJNekkid: do it with Windows7, didn't you say it is awsome :-P
17:41:42  <DJNekkid> hehe
17:42:04  <DJNekkid> as a "end user" computer :)
17:57:13  <DJNekkid> and it _seems_ like there is a problem with permissions
17:58:45  <Ammler> DJNekkid: you don't know KDE ;-)I
17:58:57  <DJNekkid> KDE ?
17:59:06  <DJNekkid> isnt that the GUI ?
17:59:23  <Ammler> isn't that what you mean with "end user" computer?
17:59:34  <DJNekkid> sure :)
17:59:42  <DJNekkid> anyway...
17:59:46  <DJNekkid> does this tell youanything?
17:59:51  <DJNekkid> Summary:
17:59:52  <DJNekkid> SELinux is preventing access to files with the default label, default_t.
17:59:52  <DJNekkid> Detailed Description:
17:59:52  <DJNekkid> SELinux permission checks on files labeled default_t are being denied. These
17:59:52  <DJNekkid> files/directories have the default label on them. This can indicate a labeling
17:59:54  <DJNekkid> problem, especially if the files being referred to are not top level
17:59:56  <DJNekkid> directories. Any files/directories under standard system directories, /usr,
17:59:58  <DJNekkid> label is for files/directories which do not have a label on a parent directory.
18:00:00  <DJNekkid> So if you create a new directory in / you might legitimately get this label.
18:00:02  <DJNekkid> Allowing Access:
18:00:04  <DJNekkid> If you want a confined domain to use these files you will probably need to
18:00:06  <DJNekkid> relabel the file/directory with chcon. In some cases it is just easier to
18:00:06  <Ammler> I don't use CentOS/SELinux
18:00:08  <DJNekkid> relabel the system, to relabel execute: "touch /.autorelabel; reboot"
18:00:10  <DJNekkid> Additional Information:
18:00:12  <DJNekkid> Source Context                system_u:system_r:smbd_t
18:00:14  <DJNekkid> Target Context                system_u:object_r:default_t
18:00:16  <DJNekkid> Target Objects                / [ dir ]
18:00:18  <DJNekkid> Source                        smbd
18:00:19  <Ammler> don't paste more than 3 lines
18:00:22  <DJNekkid> Source Path                   /usr/sbin/smbd
18:00:24  <DJNekkid> Port                          <Unknown>
18:00:26  <DJNekkid> Host                          localhost.localdomain
18:00:28  <DJNekkid> Source RPM Packages           samba-3.0.33-3.14.el5
18:00:30  <DJNekkid> Target RPM Packages           filesystem-2.4.0-2.el5.centos
18:00:31  <KenjiE20> too late
18:00:32  <DJNekkid> Policy RPM                    selinux-policy-2.4.6-255.el5
18:00:34  <Ammler> @kick DJNekkid
18:00:34  <DJNekkid> Selinux Enabled               True
18:00:36  <DJNekkid> Policy Type                   targeted
18:00:38  <DJNekkid> MLS Enabled                   True
18:00:40  <DJNekkid> Enforcing Mode                Enforcing
18:00:42  <DJNekkid> Plugin Name                   default
18:00:44  <DJNekkid> Host Name                     localhost.localdomain
18:00:46  <DJNekkid> Platform                      Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.18-164.el5 #1 SMP
18:00:48  <DJNekkid>                               Thu Sep 3 03:28:30 EDT 2009 x86_64 x86_64
18:00:48  <Ammler> @services op
18:00:48  *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Webster
18:00:50  <Ammler> @kick DJNekkid
18:00:50  *** DJNekkid was kicked by Webster (Ammler)
18:02:35  <planetmaker> you could have muted him :-P
18:02:43  <planetmaker> @mute
18:02:43  <Webster> planetmaker: The operation succeeded.
18:02:48  <planetmaker> err..
18:02:57  <planetmaker> @help mute
18:03:35  <planetmaker> @unmute
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18:21:23  <Ammler> planetmaker: it is +q afaik
18:21:39  <planetmaker> for the bot
18:22:00  <Ammler> yes, @mute is something else
18:22:02  <planetmaker> the @mute works and makes webster silent... lobotomy
18:22:27  <Ammler> well, he could come back...
18:24:25  <planetmaker> yeah.
18:24:32  <Ammler> hmm, just, what would mute him help?
18:24:39  <planetmaker> write him a forum mail
18:24:50  <planetmaker> making sure that he understands :-)
18:25:00  <Ammler> oh well
18:27:46  <Ammler> he, what is his forums nick?
18:27:55  <planetmaker> DJNekkid?
18:27:58  <planetmaker> maybe with space
18:28:18  <Ammler> ah, that was it :-)
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18:33:42  <Ammler> WELCOME BACK!
18:34:42  <Ammler> please paste such things to or and then paste the link to the irc
18:34:44  <DJNekkid> :)
18:35:06  <DJNekkid> i _thought_ it were supposed to paste two lines, not about 40
18:35:39  <Ammler> my irc client would warn, if I would paste so much
18:36:14  <DJNekkid> aparently X-chat dont
18:37:20  <Ammler> and a kick isn't a ban, just rejoin in such cases ;-)
18:38:22  <DJNekkid> well, my system rebooted just afterwards anyway...
18:38:47  <DJNekkid> im on irc via VLC and the server, so i can "be on" always
18:38:56  <Ammler> VNC*
18:39:05  <DJNekkid> why do i keep saying VLC ?
18:39:12  <DJNekkid> hehe
18:39:18  <Ammler> that is the videoplayer, quite famous
18:39:23  <DJNekkid> probably...
18:39:29  <DJNekkid> i use it btw :)
18:39:40  * Ammler uses that to stream avi to the tv
18:39:45  <planetmaker> who doesn't? ;-)
18:40:01  <Ammler> on the pc, I prefer mplayer
18:40:19  <DJNekkid> i actually perfer winamp...
18:40:29  <DJNekkid> but VLC is way easier on "wierd" codecs
18:40:46  <Ammler> and specially fro streams
18:40:53  <DJNekkid> yea
18:41:02  <Ammler> (as server and client)
18:41:43  <DJNekkid> btw...
18:41:49  <DJNekkid> this SELinux-thingy ...
18:41:56  <DJNekkid> i disabled it, and now Samba works :)
18:42:09  <Ammler> the tv box has only around 300 Mhz and can't play xvid itself, so I stream those from my server to the box via vlc
18:43:17  <Ammler> yes, SELinux is afaik Redhat specific
18:43:28  <Ammler> dunno, if Debian uses it too, but suse doesn't
18:43:59  <DJNekkid> i saw a list
18:44:04  <Ammler> it is something like Antivir for linux :-)
18:44:15  <DJNekkid> fedora use it i think
18:44:27  <Ammler> redhad=fedora=centos
18:44:50  <DJNekkid> oh :)
18:44:54  <DJNekkid> or rather ...
18:45:10  <DJNekkid> RedHat = (Fedora or Centos)
18:45:12  <Ammler> fedora and centos are the free available derivates of it
18:45:27  <DJNekkid> ya
18:45:39  <Ammler> you should be able to use the redhat guide for centos
18:46:11  <DJNekkid> my wife saies hi btw
18:46:13  <DJNekkid> :P
18:46:21  <Ammler> Hello :-)
18:46:52  <planetmaker> hallo! :-)
18:47:14  * DJNekkid 's wife is wavin'
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18:55:44  <DJNekkid> brb, again
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19:24:10  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Redmine - Revision 3184: Added and updated some more object daddy exemplars. <> || Redmine - Revision 3183: Use the minimum password length setting when reseting a password. (#4683) <>
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19:53:05  <Ammler> no IS2 server anymore, maybe we should start again one :-)
19:53:12  <planetmaker> :-) Indeed
19:59:49  <KenjiE20> yes
20:07:38  <Ammler> a IS2 prozone game KenjiE20 ;-)
20:08:12  <Ammler> but then, Hirundo should implement save compatibilty :-P
20:09:01  <KenjiE20> heh
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20:12:47  <dragonhorseboy> hey
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20:15:40  <planetmaker> he... bouncer?
20:15:57  <dragonhorseboy> planetmaker...?
20:16:36  <planetmaker> the bouncer obviously died
20:17:05  <planetmaker> which I hate... even if it's not the one I'm connected to
20:17:17  <dragonhorseboy> hehe
20:17:35  <KenjiE20> more like quit, but yea
20:17:52  <KenjiE20> @mode -o Webster
20:17:52  *** Webster sets mode: -o Webster
20:18:18  <dragonhorseboy> so whats going on with both of you anyway?
20:18:22  <KenjiE20> EVE
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20:23:40  <dragonhorseboy> wb ammler and andythenorth
20:24:55  <planetmaker> Ammler: did you meddle with the bouncer or what was that?
20:34:37  <dragonhorseboy> hmm *pokes planetmaker to explain why i can't even look at any pngs from the repo at all*
20:35:04  * planetmaker has no idea
20:35:36  <dragonhorseboy> well a ton of these are authored :p
20:35:38  * dragonhorseboy hehs
20:37:35  <planetmaker> how does "get a decent image viewer" sound?
20:38:36  <dragonhorseboy> planetmaker so you saying that google image search is 200% fail then?
20:39:22  <planetmaker> yes. It doesn't read within the repos
20:39:56  <planetmaker> besides you didn't say anything more specific than "it doesn't work" What shall I say? Your fault.
20:40:16  <planetmaker> you didn't say what where and how
20:40:44  <dragonhorseboy> just try click on any repo pngs yourself .. compare that non-opening to going to google image and doing any random searches and being able to look at images
20:41:32  <dragonhorseboy> brb
20:52:18  <planetmaker> but I see what you mean. But it has nothing to do with google or whatever.
20:52:31  <planetmaker> Ammler: that's a web server setting, I guess, or?
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21:15:59  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Revision 298: Change: Add version information to the extra's action8 <>
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22:37:02  <Ammler> [22:32] <planetmaker> [21:24:55] Ammler: did you meddle with the bouncer or what was that? <-- what you mean?
22:37:23  <planetmaker> well. You all three left. And then returned
22:38:10  <Ammler> ah ok
22:38:22  <Ammler> well, I did nothing
22:38:47  <Ammler> I use the WebChat as client now, works quite nice.
22:39:19  <planetmaker> he...
22:39:47  <Ammler> for the bouncer
22:40:35  <Ammler> maybe andythenorth should try that instead his silly client ;-)
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23:56:43  <dragonhorseboy> hey

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