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00:21:01 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 00:29:49 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 00:44:47 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 01:00:31 *** KenjiE20|LT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 01:00:40 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 01:07:53 *** PeterT has quit IRC 01:54:33 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 01:56:17 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 02:08:39 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 02:47:01 *** KenjiE20|LT has quit IRC 04:21:33 *** Frankr has quit IRC 07:28:46 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:23:00 *** ODM has quit IRC 08:47:24 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:06:53 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 11:18:40 *** dragonhorseboy has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:18:42 <dragonhorseboy> hey 11:20:20 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:21:17 <dragonhorseboy> hey andythenorth ;) 11:21:39 <dragonhorseboy> some slight-lousy morning for me .. jonty's server seem to be down so blah here I am just sitting on the dead irc :p 11:24:53 <dragonhorseboy> andythenorth how's the FIRS work btw? 11:32:43 <andythenorth> dragonhorseboy: FIRS is close to having much nicer code for secondary industries, but I am buried in work work. 11:33:34 <dragonhorseboy> heh ok :p 11:35:57 <dragonhorseboy> anything else or FIRS is pretty much your only focus? 11:36:28 <Ammler> @fish 11:36:28 <Webster> I landed a DJNekkid that was this big |<---------->| 11:36:45 <dragonhorseboy> lol ammler..btw hey ;) 11:36:54 <dragonhorseboy> how're you? 11:37:10 <Ammler> so lala :-) 11:37:35 <Ammler> how is the dragons world? 11:37:45 <dragonhorseboy> heh 11:38:20 <dragonhorseboy> doing ok .. been having a bit better time working out some of the details on my project..might be able to start a draft plan list soon 11:39:43 <dragonhorseboy> btw right now you only can have standard or electric rails .. no way to add a third type that would be compactible with standard rails right? 11:39:53 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:41:35 <Ammler> yes, I guess, that is so. 11:41:50 <dragonhorseboy> thanks 11:43:40 <dragonhorseboy> ammler btw I know that TE is limited to only up to 10x of the given locomotive weight but .. there's no limit on the hp figure tho right? 11:44:18 <Ammler> dragonhorseboy: again, don't ask me such things :-P 11:44:40 <dragonhorseboy> lol ok 11:45:12 * dragonhorseboy pokes ammler with a "how to even understand nfo" dummy book? :P 11:45:17 <dragonhorseboy> just teasing you of course hehhee 11:50:54 <dragonhorseboy> well so what you doing now ammler? 12:13:29 <Ammler> freeciv as browser game :-o 12:16:09 * dragonhorseboy rather play CivII ;) 12:17:44 <Ammler> you men the c-based game? 12:18:05 <dragonhorseboy> the what? 12:19:37 <Ammler> Civil as freeciv.org or what? 12:20:09 <planetmaker> Ammler, try freecol ;-) 12:20:35 <planetmaker> but it's actually amazing how many Free* or Open* games there are :-) 12:20:36 * dragonhorseboy wonders if you had not ever heard of Microprose 12:20:42 <Ammler> He, I have Colonization Floppies around somewhere... 12:21:01 <planetmaker> He... *somewhere* I have Civ I. The first PC game ever I bought 12:21:05 <Ammler> that was a nice game :-) 12:21:09 <planetmaker> Back somewhen in the 90s... 12:21:17 <planetmaker> indeed 12:21:40 <planetmaker> IIRC it's 4 x 720kB 3.5" discs. 12:22:51 <dragonhorseboy> well mine is a cd anyway (and nope its not going work on your pc sorry) 12:23:10 <dragonhorseboy> ;) 12:23:18 <Ammler> why not? 12:24:25 <planetmaker> CDs didn't exist back then when I played that... 12:24:44 <KenjiE20> cee dee? 12:24:49 <Ammler> my first CD was Warcraft2 12:25:01 <dragonhorseboy> ammler because the cd is for the other platform ;) 12:25:04 <dragonhorseboy> thats why :p 12:25:18 <Ammler> dragonhorseboy: macish thing, ok :-) 12:25:23 <planetmaker> that's what you think ;-) 12:25:45 <planetmaker> ^ @ dragonhorseboy 12:26:00 <dragonhorseboy> ammler... to be exact a powerpc 603e at 100mhz (although its ram controller is a bit hobbled) 12:26:51 <dragonhorseboy> funny how many decent games ran just fine (compared to the several used games I would eventually pick up for the pc a few years later and several of them just couldn't run well) 12:27:53 <dragonhorseboy> oh and I still got 'x-wing collection cd' .. its a bit early storyline but nice gameplay (and you're not limited to the x-wing's only .. some of the missions actually also use the 3-winged shuttle craft too) 12:34:50 <Ammler> planetmaker: http://pastebin.ca/1770688 <-- not a simple zypper install ;-) 12:36:41 <Ammler> I guess, that is for sound... 12:50:57 *** dragonhorseboy has left #openttdcoop.devzone 13:47:31 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:05:59 <planetmaker> he. indeed. But it's easy enough to just download like OpenTTD 14:06:03 <planetmaker> unzip and run 14:06:09 <planetmaker> they've awesome graphics. 14:07:27 <Ammler> but I like also the sounds of those old games :-P 15:07:41 <DJNekkid> hi guys 15:51:22 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:58:33 <Ammler> planetmaker: poor guy, you couldn't hold you back either :-P 16:01:19 <Ammler> DJNekkid: I added redmine.ammler.ch to the devzone again, so your links works again... ;-) 17:09:53 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 17:10:27 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:14:19 <planetmaker> yeah... I intermittendly hoped that he really was interested in creating value. 17:14:21 <planetmaker> He seems rather interested in creating ... confusion, nurturing his vanity 17:14:29 <planetmaker> I already regretted to having replied 17:25:13 <DJNekkid> my links? 17:25:42 <Ammler> in your tt-forums sig 17:26:23 <DJNekkid> oh... hehe 17:26:29 <DJNekkid> cool... 17:30:25 <planetmaker> loool: "In the end, the uncertain nature of grfs always makes working with airports a bit of trial and error. This is not new, e.g. I could currently create a trainset that does not allow attaching wagons on mondays." (Hirundo) 17:30:47 <planetmaker> now, _THAT_ would be a feature. 17:31:12 <planetmaker> Best coupled with a random callback 17:31:29 <planetmaker> "sorry, today no work. We're on strike for higher wages". The true French trainset :-P 17:31:56 <planetmaker> (or whatever the current reason might be for being on strike) 17:36:07 <DJNekkid> hehe 17:36:53 <DJNekkid> im trying to figure out how to get Apache to work, and i still have prolems with Samba 17:38:29 <Ammler> DJNekkid: do it with Windows7, didn't you say it is awsome :-P 17:41:42 <DJNekkid> hehe 17:42:04 <DJNekkid> as a "end user" computer :) 17:57:13 <DJNekkid> and it _seems_ like there is a problem with permissions 17:58:45 <Ammler> DJNekkid: you don't know KDE ;-)I 17:58:57 <DJNekkid> KDE ? 17:59:06 <DJNekkid> isnt that the GUI ? 17:59:23 <Ammler> isn't that what you mean with "end user" computer? 17:59:34 <DJNekkid> sure :) 17:59:42 <DJNekkid> anyway... 17:59:46 <DJNekkid> does this tell youanything? 17:59:51 <DJNekkid> Summary: 17:59:52 <DJNekkid> SELinux is preventing access to files with the default label, default_t. 17:59:52 <DJNekkid> Detailed Description: 17:59:52 <DJNekkid> SELinux permission checks on files labeled default_t are being denied. These 17:59:52 <DJNekkid> files/directories have the default label on them. This can indicate a labeling 17:59:54 <DJNekkid> problem, especially if the files being referred to are not top level 17:59:56 <DJNekkid> directories. Any files/directories under standard system directories, /usr, 17:59:58 <DJNekkid> label is for files/directories which do not have a label on a parent directory. 18:00:00 <DJNekkid> So if you create a new directory in / you might legitimately get this label. 18:00:02 <DJNekkid> Allowing Access: 18:00:04 <DJNekkid> If you want a confined domain to use these files you will probably need to 18:00:06 <DJNekkid> relabel the file/directory with chcon. In some cases it is just easier to 18:00:06 <Ammler> I don't use CentOS/SELinux 18:00:08 <DJNekkid> relabel the system, to relabel execute: "touch /.autorelabel; reboot" 18:00:10 <DJNekkid> Additional Information: 18:00:12 <DJNekkid> Source Context system_u:system_r:smbd_t 18:00:14 <DJNekkid> Target Context system_u:object_r:default_t 18:00:16 <DJNekkid> Target Objects / [ dir ] 18:00:18 <DJNekkid> Source smbd 18:00:19 <Ammler> don't paste more than 3 lines 18:00:22 <DJNekkid> Source Path /usr/sbin/smbd 18:00:24 <DJNekkid> Port <Unknown> 18:00:26 <DJNekkid> Host localhost.localdomain 18:00:28 <DJNekkid> Source RPM Packages samba-3.0.33-3.14.el5 18:00:30 <DJNekkid> Target RPM Packages filesystem-2.4.0-2.el5.centos 18:00:31 <KenjiE20> too late 18:00:32 <DJNekkid> Policy RPM selinux-policy-2.4.6-255.el5 18:00:34 <Ammler> @kick DJNekkid 18:00:34 <DJNekkid> Selinux Enabled True 18:00:36 <DJNekkid> Policy Type targeted 18:00:38 <DJNekkid> MLS Enabled True 18:00:40 <DJNekkid> Enforcing Mode Enforcing 18:00:42 <DJNekkid> Plugin Name default 18:00:44 <DJNekkid> Host Name localhost.localdomain 18:00:46 <DJNekkid> Platform Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.18-164.el5 #1 SMP 18:00:48 <DJNekkid> Thu Sep 3 03:28:30 EDT 2009 x86_64 x86_64 18:00:48 <Ammler> @services op 18:00:48 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Webster 18:00:50 <Ammler> @kick DJNekkid 18:00:50 *** DJNekkid was kicked by Webster (Ammler) 18:02:35 <planetmaker> you could have muted him :-P 18:02:43 <planetmaker> @mute 18:02:43 <Webster> planetmaker: The operation succeeded. 18:02:48 <planetmaker> err.. 18:02:57 <planetmaker> @help mute 18:03:35 <planetmaker> @unmute 18:04:59 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 18:21:23 <Ammler> planetmaker: it is +q afaik 18:21:39 <planetmaker> for the bot 18:22:00 <Ammler> yes, @mute is something else 18:22:02 <planetmaker> the @mute works and makes webster silent... lobotomy 18:22:27 <Ammler> well, he could come back... 18:24:25 <planetmaker> yeah. 18:24:32 <Ammler> hmm, just, what would mute him help? 18:24:39 <planetmaker> write him a forum mail 18:24:50 <planetmaker> making sure that he understands :-) 18:25:00 <Ammler> oh well 18:27:46 <Ammler> he, what is his forums nick? 18:27:55 <planetmaker> DJNekkid? 18:27:58 <planetmaker> maybe with space 18:28:18 <Ammler> ah, that was it :-) 18:29:19 *** DJNekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:33:42 <Ammler> WELCOME BACK! 18:34:42 <Ammler> please paste such things to www.pastebin.ca or paste.openttd.org and then paste the link to the irc 18:34:44 <DJNekkid> :) 18:35:06 <DJNekkid> i _thought_ it were supposed to paste two lines, not about 40 18:35:39 <Ammler> my irc client would warn, if I would paste so much 18:36:14 <DJNekkid> aparently X-chat dont 18:37:20 <Ammler> and a kick isn't a ban, just rejoin in such cases ;-) 18:38:22 <DJNekkid> well, my system rebooted just afterwards anyway... 18:38:47 <DJNekkid> im on irc via VLC and the server, so i can "be on" always 18:38:56 <Ammler> VNC* 18:39:05 <DJNekkid> why do i keep saying VLC ? 18:39:12 <DJNekkid> hehe 18:39:18 <Ammler> that is the videoplayer, quite famous 18:39:23 <DJNekkid> probably... 18:39:29 <DJNekkid> i use it btw :) 18:39:40 * Ammler uses that to stream avi to the tv 18:39:45 <planetmaker> who doesn't? ;-) 18:40:01 <Ammler> on the pc, I prefer mplayer 18:40:19 <DJNekkid> i actually perfer winamp... 18:40:29 <DJNekkid> but VLC is way easier on "wierd" codecs 18:40:46 <Ammler> and specially fro streams 18:40:53 <DJNekkid> yea 18:41:02 <Ammler> (as server and client) 18:41:43 <DJNekkid> btw... 18:41:49 <DJNekkid> this SELinux-thingy ... 18:41:56 <DJNekkid> i disabled it, and now Samba works :) 18:42:09 <Ammler> the tv box has only around 300 Mhz and can't play xvid itself, so I stream those from my server to the box via vlc 18:43:17 <Ammler> yes, SELinux is afaik Redhat specific 18:43:28 <Ammler> dunno, if Debian uses it too, but suse doesn't 18:43:59 <DJNekkid> i saw a list 18:44:04 <Ammler> it is something like Antivir for linux :-) 18:44:15 <DJNekkid> fedora use it i think 18:44:27 <Ammler> redhad=fedora=centos 18:44:50 <DJNekkid> oh :) 18:44:54 <DJNekkid> or rather ... 18:45:10 <DJNekkid> RedHat = (Fedora or Centos) 18:45:12 <Ammler> fedora and centos are the free available derivates of it 18:45:27 <DJNekkid> ya 18:45:39 <Ammler> you should be able to use the redhat guide for centos 18:46:11 <DJNekkid> my wife saies hi btw 18:46:13 <DJNekkid> :P 18:46:21 <Ammler> Hello :-) 18:46:52 <planetmaker> hallo! :-) 18:47:14 * DJNekkid 's wife is wavin' 18:54:33 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:55:44 <DJNekkid> brb, again 18:55:57 *** DJNekkid has quit IRC 19:02:52 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:14:44 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 19:24:10 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Redmine - Revision 3184: Added and updated some more object daddy exemplars. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3184> || Redmine - Revision 3183: Use the minimum password length setting when reseting a password. (#4683) <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3183> 19:32:41 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:40:23 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 19:53:05 <Ammler> no IS2 server anymore, maybe we should start again one :-) 19:53:12 <planetmaker> :-) Indeed 19:59:49 <KenjiE20> yes 20:07:38 <Ammler> a IS2 prozone game KenjiE20 ;-) 20:08:12 <Ammler> but then, Hirundo should implement save compatibilty :-P 20:09:01 <KenjiE20> heh 20:12:43 *** dragonhorseboy has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:12:47 <dragonhorseboy> hey 20:15:24 *** Hirundo has quit IRC 20:15:24 *** Ammler has quit IRC 20:15:24 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 20:15:40 <planetmaker> he... bouncer? 20:15:57 <dragonhorseboy> planetmaker...? 20:16:36 <planetmaker> the bouncer obviously died 20:17:05 <planetmaker> which I hate... even if it's not the one I'm connected to 20:17:17 <dragonhorseboy> hehe 20:17:35 <KenjiE20> more like quit, but yea 20:17:52 <KenjiE20> @mode -o Webster 20:17:52 *** Webster sets mode: -o Webster 20:18:18 <dragonhorseboy> so whats going on with both of you anyway? 20:18:22 <KenjiE20> EVE 20:22:05 *** Ammler has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:22:05 *** Hirundo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:23:07 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:23:40 <dragonhorseboy> wb ammler and andythenorth 20:24:55 <planetmaker> Ammler: did you meddle with the bouncer or what was that? 20:34:37 <dragonhorseboy> hmm *pokes planetmaker to explain why i can't even look at any pngs from the repo at all* 20:35:04 * planetmaker has no idea 20:35:36 <dragonhorseboy> well a ton of these are authored by...you :p 20:35:38 * dragonhorseboy hehs 20:37:35 <planetmaker> how does "get a decent image viewer" sound? 20:38:36 <dragonhorseboy> planetmaker so you saying that google image search is 200% fail then? 20:39:22 <planetmaker> yes. It doesn't read within the repos 20:39:56 <planetmaker> besides you didn't say anything more specific than "it doesn't work" What shall I say? Your fault. 20:40:16 <planetmaker> you didn't say what where and how 20:40:44 <dragonhorseboy> just try click on any repo pngs yourself .. compare that non-opening to going to google image and doing any random searches and being able to look at images 20:41:32 <dragonhorseboy> brb 20:52:18 <planetmaker> but I see what you mean. But it has nothing to do with google or whatever. 20:52:31 <planetmaker> Ammler: that's a web server setting, I guess, or? 21:04:43 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:15:59 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Revision 298: Change: Add version information to the extra's action8 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/298> 21:22:41 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:13:27 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 22:25:40 *** dragonhorseboy has left #openttdcoop.devzone 22:31:15 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:37:02 <Ammler> [22:32] <planetmaker> [21:24:55] Ammler: did you meddle with the bouncer or what was that? <-- what you mean? 22:37:23 <planetmaker> well. You all three left. And then returned 22:38:10 <Ammler> ah ok 22:38:22 <Ammler> well, I did nothing 22:38:47 <Ammler> I use the WebChat as client now, works quite nice. 22:39:19 <planetmaker> he... 22:39:47 <Ammler> https://openttdcoop.org:9091/ for the bouncer 22:40:35 <Ammler> maybe andythenorth should try that instead his silly client ;-) 22:44:33 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 23:01:33 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:56:41 *** dragonhorseboy has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:56:43 <dragonhorseboy> hey