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00:57:17 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 00:57:51 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 01:09:12 *** PeterT has quit IRC 01:11:30 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 01:41:52 *** KenjiE20|LT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 01:42:14 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 02:23:29 *** PeterT has quit IRC 02:28:00 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 02:59:59 *** KenjiE20|LT has quit IRC 03:15:26 <DJNekkid> if anyone is on, can someone try to type in my nick? 03:15:48 <PeterT> DJNekkid 03:15:53 <DJNekkid> i wanna see if its catched and writen in my status-window ... if not i need another irc-client... 03:16:03 <DJNekkid> hmm ... 03:16:08 <DJNekkid> its not... 03:16:13 <PeterT> Get YChat 03:16:25 <DJNekkid> i use xchat atm 03:16:26 <PeterT> Oh, wait 03:16:36 <PeterT> Get Konversation! hellz yeaH! 03:16:38 <PeterT> you have linux 03:16:43 <PeterT> konversation > xchat 03:16:44 <DJNekkid> yes... 03:17:11 <DJNekkid> im on via VNC to my linux server 03:17:23 <DJNekkid> where im supposed to be "always on" 03:17:26 <PeterT> VNC? 03:17:37 <DJNekkid> "remote desktop" 03:17:41 <PeterT> Ah 03:17:55 <DJNekkid> as my laptop is often taken offline... 03:18:26 <DJNekkid> and; i can be on at work, w/o installing any software on my work computer 03:18:36 <DJNekkid> all i need is ultravnc.ece 03:18:38 <DJNekkid> .exe 03:19:08 <DJNekkid> konversation is GUI yes? 03:19:21 <PeterT> Yes, it's very nice! 03:19:32 <DJNekkid> hmm, not available via yum 03:21:58 <DJNekkid> and the .rpm needs some dependencies... 03:22:01 <DJNekkid> *sigh* 03:34:04 *** PeterT has quit IRC 03:35:46 <DJNekkid> what the crap do i open *.bin files with? 03:35:55 <DJNekkid> *.rpm.bin 03:42:19 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: World Airliners Set - Revision 595: Hopefully fixed AirCanada Filename Problem <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/595> || Redmine - Revision 3221: Fixed: error raised when trying to view the gantt or calendar with a gro... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3221> || Redmine - Revision 3220: Fixed: deprecation warning in reposman.rb (#4736). <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3220> || Redmine - Revision 3219: Do not show 'Quote' links on locked topics (#4749). <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3219> || Redmine - Revision 3218: Removes overflow:auto on #content which broke the fix in r2118 (#4724). <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3218> || Redmine - Revision 3217: Fixed: error messages displayed twice when creating a group (#4715). <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3217> || Redmine - Revision 3216: Renames WikiFormatting.cache to .cache_store <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3216> || Redmine - Revision 3215: Adds pagination to forum messages (#4664). <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3215> || Redmine - Revision 3214: Adds a setting to cache textile rendering (off by default). <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3214> || Redmine - Revision 3213: Adds a permission for exporting wiki pages. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3213> 05:57:51 *** Frankr has quit IRC 06:42:35 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 07:12:45 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:36:06 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:47:20 *** Frankr has quit IRC 09:22:56 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:48:03 *** dragonhorseboy has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:48:06 <dragonhorseboy> hey 11:57:40 <ODM> mornin 12:01:34 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:02:12 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:02:23 <dragonhorseboy> hey odm 12:07:42 <ODM> hmm seems dutch trainset work is a bit dead:O 12:18:14 <dragonhorseboy> odm heh I've looked at the dutch set site on and off over time :S 12:18:46 <ODM> but nothing? 12:21:15 <ODM> to be hoenst i havent changed my log thingy in ages aswell 12:21:23 <ODM> but ive got some ideas to pick it up again 12:22:04 <dragonhorseboy> heh 12:22:21 <dragonhorseboy> odm well I'm sorta waiting for dutch to be more or less a completed set (mu units as well) 12:22:49 <ODM> can you tell me how complete/useful it is right now? im making a game, but not sure if i should use the alpha 12:24:38 <ODM> heh, brilliant, leg profit is an advanced setting, but its not in the manual:D 12:27:25 <KenjiE20> I presume a leg is each vehicle that has the order 'transfer' 12:28:21 <ODM> i assume that it is the percentage of the money the feeder gets, over his own part of the trip 12:28:27 <ODM> but it could be something weirder 12:29:40 <ODM> im now tring to guess the name for it ingame:D 12:33:07 <dragonhorseboy> odm so what do you usually work on? :) 12:34:13 <ODM> not much:P 12:34:22 <ODM> i did the thingy that builds stats from ottdc logs 12:34:36 <ODM> im not really into the openttd/grf coding 12:34:49 <ODM> im a sucky artist, and ive seen the newgrf code... it frightens me^^ 12:35:07 <KenjiE20> FEEDER_PAYMENT_SHARE <-- ODM 12:35:19 <dragonhorseboy> odm ah ok :P 12:35:23 <ODM> oh come on i never wouldve guessed that:P 12:35:24 <ODM> thanks:) 12:35:42 * KenjiE20 trawled back through the vcs :P 12:35:59 <KenjiE20> profit = profit * _settings_game.economy.feeder_payment_share / 100; 12:36:22 <ODM> heh 12:36:29 <KenjiE20> that's it 12:36:53 <ODM> and at the delivery of the actual cargo it is taken off? i imagine 12:36:56 <KenjiE20> that, a save bump, and some settings strings 12:37:25 <KenjiE20> src/economy.cpp:1070 12:53:32 <ODM> hmm, i cant click many random industries in scenario editor 12:53:33 <ODM> thats weird 12:53:42 <ODM> oh might need a town first:p 12:56:57 <ODM> hm nop thats not it 12:57:24 <KenjiE20> many same industries per town on? 12:57:33 <ODM> yes 12:57:46 <ODM> changed the manual primary construction setting a bit fixed it 12:57:49 <ODM> weird:p 12:58:33 <KenjiE20> hm, worked straight away for me 12:58:52 <KenjiE20> and primary is set to none 13:00:12 <ODM> right, weird 13:56:36 <Ammler> looks like the server dies? 13:56:49 <KenjiE20> a while ago yes 14:05:25 <ODM> which one?:P 14:06:04 <Ammler> silly, if redmine tries to fetch the new 32bpp projects 14:10:26 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:14:11 <Ammler> shouldn't be possible that you break the whole server with a wrong setting in the DevZone :-) 14:14:21 <Ammler> but should work again now. 14:15:30 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: 32bpp-extra - Revision 0: Add:Makefile, based upon OpenGFX, thanks to Planetmaker <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/32bpp-extra/repository/revisions/0> 14:29:18 *** dragonhorseboy has left #openttdcoop.devzone 14:57:29 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:04:12 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: World Airliners Set - Revision 596: Fixed Compile failure on r595 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/596> 15:21:19 *** dragonhorseboy has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:21:28 <dragonhorseboy> ammler you around? :) 15:22:09 <PeterT> [09:14:14] <Ammler> but should work again now. 15:22:17 <PeterT> not too long ago 15:22:41 <dragonhorseboy> thanks petert 15:22:48 <PeterT> yeap 15:27:11 <dragonhorseboy> just wanted ask about borrwing chucks of the basecost grf codes ^_^ 15:28:39 <ODM> borrowing? lol:P 15:30:18 <PeterT> Umm, who is "32bpp Test"? http://www.openttd.org/en/server/26167 15:33:34 <dragonhorseboy> odm yeah I want adjust the default cost multiplier in the game .. and the basecost grf seem like best way to do that 15:50:49 <Ammler> dragonhorseboy: my things are public domain or gpl 15:51:04 <Ammler> but useable is another case ;-) 15:56:58 <dragonhorseboy> heh 15:57:08 <dragonhorseboy> ok I'll see whatever goes when the coding finally starts .. ty ;) 16:01:26 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 16:50:36 <dragonhorseboy> ammler you still there? 16:53:21 <PeterT> dragonhorseboy: Just ask the question, he will answer when he sees it... hopefully ;-) 16:53:28 <dragonhorseboy> heh 16:53:50 <dragonhorseboy> ammler could more than one instance of basecostmod3 grf be used on one game? 16:56:30 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: 32bpp-extra - Revision 1: Add: Makefile additional files, based on opengfx, modified to create 32... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/32bpp-extra/repository/revisions/1> 17:00:50 <Ammler> dragonhorseboy: if you "hack" the GRFID 17:01:05 <Ammler> but I can also quite easy extend it, if needed 17:01:10 <dragonhorseboy> heh ok 17:01:25 <dragonhorseboy> I was just wondering about setting five parameters in one then another 2-5 different one in the second instance of it etc 17:03:59 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:04:13 <Ammler> you you would need 2 more? 17:06:10 <Ammler> you could btw. still use pb_build and then my grf, didn't try 17:06:16 <dragonhorseboy> well I dunno how many but was just thinking how it could be interesting to raise specific rail and road prices in one game .. and that would be at least 8+ parameters 17:06:24 <Ammler> or my basecost2 17:06:28 <dragonhorseboy> ammler...nah pb_build is useless unless the tunnel cost could be disabled...figured 17:06:50 <Ammler> yes, but that you could do with my grf after it. 17:06:59 <dragonhorseboy> hmm you got a point there 17:17:08 <Ammler> PeterT: how is Autopilot? 17:17:14 <PeterT> I still need Expect 17:17:19 <Ammler> :-) 17:17:24 <PeterT> I'm just waiting for someone on the forums to help me 17:17:28 <Ammler> http://community.activestate.com/forum-topic/could-not-spawn-command-a 17:17:29 <Webster> Title: could not spawn command anything. | ActiveState Community Site (at community.activestate.com) 17:22:22 <PeterT> what about that page? that isn't my error at all 17:23:06 <Ammler> you could try the script 17:23:20 <Ammler> so you know, if it is expect or something else 17:23:37 <PeterT> the one that is on that page? 17:23:56 <Ammler> yes, the little ping thing 17:24:40 <PeterT> I know it's because MSYS cannot find Expect 17:28:07 <Ammler> ah nvm then, you still use msys... 17:31:44 <PeterT> What should I be using, Ammler? 17:34:09 <PeterT> Ammler, I just did tclsh autopilot.tcl and it is working much better 17:34:18 <PeterT> I shall post my new error 17:34:49 <PeterT> 12:34!!! 17:36:14 *** dragonhorseboy has left #openttdcoop.devzone 17:42:23 <PeterT> Ammler: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=854122#p854122 17:42:24 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums • View topic - Package 'Expect' for AutoPilot on Windows (at www.tt-forums.net) 17:43:22 <Ammler> on #openttd, someone posted a python wrapper, btw. 17:43:26 <Ammler> he coded it over night 17:43:39 <Ammler> maybe that is better for you. 17:43:53 <KenjiE20> won't that use pyexpect ? 17:44:15 <PeterT> python wrapper? 17:45:27 <PeterT> what is that? 17:49:13 <Ammler> KenjiE20: I am sure, it will have lib which PeterT can't find either ;-) 17:49:41 <KenjiE20> heh 17:49:44 <Ammler> PeterT: search the channel for it 17:50:02 <Ammler> dropbox link 17:50:41 *** PeterT has quit IRC 17:50:56 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:51:09 <PeterT> @logs 17:51:09 <Webster> Logs: http://hyru.ath.cx:60080/~kenji/ottdcoop/ 17:52:19 <PeterT> I got a server to start running, but then came this error: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=854122#p854122 17:52:20 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums • View topic - Package 'Expect' for AutoPilot on Windows (at www.tt-forums.net) 17:52:47 <Ammler> PeterT: I gave up 17:52:53 <Ammler> it is still expect 17:52:55 <PeterT> oh 18:26:59 <Ammler> PeterT: and I meant the other channel 18:27:05 <PeterT> which? 18:27:07 <PeterT> #openttd? 18:27:45 <Ammler> do you ever read what others type? 18:28:11 <PeterT> Sorry, I'm doing many things at once 18:28:14 <PeterT> I see... 18:28:18 <PeterT> [12:43:13] <Ammler> on #openttd, someone posted a python wrapper, btw. 18:28:22 <andythenorth> do fewer things better :P 19:00:09 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 580: Change: modified prop 1A windfarm <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/580> 19:03:59 <Chris_Booth> Ammler: you have any idea why the H2H i downloaded yesterday fails big time? 19:05:05 <Ammler> just wait for yexo... 19:07:30 <Chris_Booth> that could be years 19:08:10 <Ammler> hmm, he does update quite often, imo 19:13:48 <Chris_Booth> ok Ammler but this is a major major fail 19:14:00 <Chris_Booth> you cant give anythnig orders 19:14:01 <Chris_Booth> to a stations 19:14:08 <Chris_Booth> but can give orders to depots 19:14:20 <Ammler> that is why he asked you to test it first :-) 19:14:49 <Ammler> so we don't need to run a whole server to know it doesn't work 19:16:11 <Chris_Booth> Yexo never asked me to test it 19:16:16 <Chris_Booth> i just want a game last night 19:16:31 <Chris_Booth> with PeterT but could as we could give orders 19:16:51 <PeterT> Yes, we were playing and orders weren't working 19:17:08 <PeterT> Ammler: Good, now we have a bug to fix 19:19:22 <Ammler> well, he asked the channel 19:20:50 <Chris_Booth> i asked anyone 19:21:20 <Chris_Booth> actualy i asked Ammler 20:09:02 <PeterT> Restart in linux... 20:09:24 *** PeterT has quit IRC 20:14:11 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:16:21 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: 32bpp-extra - Revision 3: Change: Only the authors of the ogfxe_extra.grf are needed <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/32bpp-extra/repository/revisions/3> || 32bpp-extra - Revision 2: Add: Initial version of the docs <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/32bpp-extra/repository/revisions/2> 20:23:19 *** PeterT has quit IRC 20:25:24 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:31:26 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: 32bpp-extra - Revision 4: Add: Let's show OpenGfx graphics where no 32bpp replacement is present <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/32bpp-extra/repository/revisions/4> 20:33:20 <Ammler> hmm 20:33:37 <Ammler> that isn't compatible with default set ^ 20:34:04 <Ammler> !s/default/ttd original/ 21:40:48 *** dragonhorseboy has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:40:50 <dragonhorseboy> hey 21:49:38 <dragonhorseboy> ammler did you said that basecost3 could be set on the fly in-game rather than having to be set beforehand? 21:50:16 <Ammler> that has nothing to do with the grf 21:50:23 <Ammler> it is a trunk feature 21:50:34 <dragonhorseboy> ohh ok 21:50:42 <Ammler> base costs aren't in the save anymore 21:51:21 <Ammler> but you can do that also on old versions, just a bit complicater with scenario editor 21:52:46 <dragonhorseboy> hm is there any limit to how large the value could be in version 3.0? 21:53:00 <Ammler> the limits are the spec 21:53:55 <dragonhorseboy> ...? 21:54:46 <Ammler> what openttd allows is possible with it. 21:54:54 <Ammler> (or ttdpatch) 21:55:19 <dragonhorseboy> hmmm could be interesting to see if ottd would take to demanding ,000 for a single road tile .. lol 21:55:27 <dragonhorseboy> heh bit silly idea 21:56:31 <dragonhorseboy> thanks anyhow ammler 22:05:48 <dragonhorseboy> ammler how did they get away with letting any air stuff be so CHEAPly priced in either games? blah :p 22:05:57 <dragonhorseboy> guess I might never know 22:06:02 <Hirundo> define 'they' ? 22:06:32 <dragonhorseboy> any planes? ;) 22:06:44 <dragonhorseboy> and btw hey hirundo..didn't think you would be still around 22:07:12 <Hirundo> 'how did any planes get away with...' you're sure you mean that? 22:08:14 <dragonhorseboy> well every single time I play any sort of game with planes..its too easy to in ten years get carried away in having millions of cash.. regardingly of which grf (default included) 22:08:34 <dragonhorseboy> so I guess thats why basecost2's always been one of my default grf 22:08:45 <Hirundo> Remember that TTD was 256^2, so less distance -> less money 22:09:01 <dragonhorseboy> true that as well 22:11:16 <Hirundo> Anyways I'll no longer be around to bother you for now, goodnight 22:11:21 <dragonhorseboy> heh 22:11:35 <dragonhorseboy> well I've had enough of the IS game for now too if thats what you meant 22:11:39 <dragonhorseboy> bye anyhow 22:32:09 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 22:37:51 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: 32bpp-extra - Revision 5: Feature: making the grf should be possible now, 8bpp coast probably not... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/32bpp-extra/repository/revisions/5> 22:47:37 <PeterT> Hello 22:47:44 <PeterT> What is the svn repo for Avignon? 22:54:25 <Chris_Booth> PeterT: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/avignon 22:54:40 <PeterT> The repo 22:54:46 <PeterT> I was already at that page 22:55:00 <PeterT> I want to checkout 22:55:58 <Chris_Booth> have you check the repo? 22:56:18 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:56:22 <PeterT> if you mean this, yes > http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/avignon/repository 22:57:21 <PeterT> it doesn't seem to be here, either: http://svn.openttdcoop.org/tools/ 22:57:50 <Chris_Booth> its osia project ask him 22:58:02 <Chris_Booth> he is currently in the main channel 22:58:18 <PeterT> Main channel? 22:58:36 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 23:05:50 *** dragonhorseboy has left #openttdcoop.devzone 23:09:18 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: 32bpp-extra - Bug #738 (New): Fix 32bpp_extra.pnfo for non temperate climates <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/738> 23:10:32 *** PeterT has quit IRC 23:13:07 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:15:31 <Ammler> [23:47] <PeterT> What is the svn repo for Avignon? 23:15:32 <Ammler> [23:54] <Chris_Booth> PeterT: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/avignon 23:15:41 <Ammler> check the homepage linked there 23:16:03 <PeterT> damn it, I just left linux 23:16:30 <Ammler> but also Avignon will need expect 23:17:05 <PeterT> On linux I have expect 23:21:01 *** PeterT has quit IRC 23:21:08 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:30:14 <PeterT> Ammler: Ok, I am on the site 23:56:07 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: 32bpp-extra - Support #739 (New): Compatibility to every base set. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/739> 23:56:50 <PeterT> Ammler, how is that possible? ^^