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00:11:40 <Ammler> PeterT: be a bit more specific please. 00:12:01 <PeterT> <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r19057 /extra/masterserver_updater/src/contentserver/tcp.cpp: [MSU] -Fix: reading from an already closed file doesn't work 00:12:07 <PeterT> sorry, i mean http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/739 00:12:59 <Ammler> what is about? 00:16:28 <PeterT> Compatibility to every base set. 00:23:36 <Ammler> well, that is the point 00:27:11 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: 32bpp-extra - Bug #738: Fix 32bpp_extra.pnfo for non temperate climates <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/738#change-1968> 01:11:49 *** dragonhorseboy has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 01:11:58 <dragonhorseboy> hey 01:12:06 <PeterT> hi dragonhorseboy 01:12:15 <PeterT> go and watch the damned superbowl! 01:12:41 <dragonhorseboy> petert unless its got any family soccer no thanks ;) 01:13:17 <Ammler> what is the "between show"? 01:13:41 <PeterT> Ammler: HalfTime Show 01:13:52 <Ammler> yes, what is it? 01:13:54 <PeterT> Ammler: Also, join ##superbowl, since you are on FreeNode already :-) 01:14:03 <PeterT> Ammler: They do a big show in the very middle of the game 01:14:19 <Ammler> ah, yeah and what? 01:14:32 <PeterT> so, they take a break at the half-time, then do some kind of music proformence 01:39:47 <Frankr> the who isn't it 01:59:13 *** KenjiE20|LT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 01:59:47 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 02:01:54 *** welshdragon is now known as Guest1227 02:02:02 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 02:03:16 *** Guest1227 has quit IRC 02:22:39 *** Frankr has quit IRC 02:59:39 *** dragonhorseboy has left #openttdcoop.devzone 03:05:57 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 04:06:55 *** Frankr has quit IRC 04:07:42 *** PeterT has quit IRC 04:10:58 *** KenjiE20|LT has quit IRC 04:57:43 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 04:58:25 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:51:19 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: 32bpp-extra - Bug #738: Fix 32bpp_extra.pnfo for non temperate climates <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/738#change-1969> 08:17:57 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:03:57 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 09:11:57 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:37:42 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 10:44:04 <Ammler> wb, pm :-) 11:37:48 <planetmaker> heya Ammler :-) 11:38:06 <planetmaker> yeah, weekends off is something nice actually ;-) 11:38:58 <planetmaker> Did you walk GeekTwo(?) through the DevZone setup? Thx for that. 11:46:36 *** dragonhorseboy has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:46:38 <dragonhorseboy> hey 11:52:28 <ODM> morning guys 11:53:06 <dragonhorseboy> hey odm what doing? 11:53:35 <ODM> waiting for lectures to start:P 11:53:40 <dragonhorseboy> heh 11:58:58 <ODM> half hour introductory lecture, then 3 hours of xml/html workshop:S 11:59:25 <dragonhorseboy> lol..jeeze 11:59:27 <dragonhorseboy> good luck :p 12:00:31 <ODM> compulsory ffs 12:00:36 <ODM> so not looking forward to it:P 12:00:42 <ODM> that means class ends at 6.... 12:00:45 <dragonhorseboy> heh 12:01:46 <planetmaker> moin moin. ODM, long time no seen :-) 12:01:54 <ODM> ey pm 12:02:00 <ODM> how was holland? 12:02:03 <planetmaker> nice to see you back :-) 12:02:07 <ODM> hehe^^ thanks 12:02:09 <planetmaker> Was an awesome party, thanks 12:02:35 <planetmaker> last birthday party of her in NL most probably, though 12:03:13 <ODM> her? in nl? 12:03:19 <ODM> i really dont know any context here 12:05:00 <planetmaker> that friend of mine who gave the party :-) I guess she'll move somewhen this / very early next year to another place, elsewhere, TBD 12:05:15 <planetmaker> and most probably that's not in the Netherlands then ;-) 12:05:20 <dragonhorseboy> heh 12:05:23 <ODM> aah okey 12:05:41 <planetmaker> so... other nice places to visit then :-P 12:06:01 <ODM> butbut here rocks 12:06:31 <planetmaker> sure it does :-) 12:06:42 <planetmaker> But you know... one goes where the job is. 12:07:06 <planetmaker> and they both will finish 'versity this year. So... 12:07:12 <ODM> aah okey 12:07:47 <ODM> right, uni calling 12:08:25 <ODM> bb 12:08:26 *** ODM has quit IRC 12:22:20 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:47:02 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:52:30 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:53:28 <dragonhorseboy> hey andythenorth :) 12:53:42 <andythenorth> hi 13:05:20 <dragonhorseboy> how're you doing? 13:05:39 <dragonhorseboy> me...doing ok.. just working on a plausible japan map for a new IS game.. not much else to say now 13:35:51 <dragonhorseboy> andythenorth would you think FIRS might be stable enough for mp or its too early yet? 13:38:33 <Ammler> as long as people wouldn't complain about missing things.... 13:40:07 <dragonhorseboy> well it'll be a custom map so I'll probably be placing the industries myself 13:42:18 <dragonhorseboy> still to get to the point of trying load the two terraform grfs yet 13:42:23 <dragonhorseboy> ^_^ 13:47:44 <dragonhorseboy> at least I don't need to fiddle with train costs... its already high enough by default heh (well..thats japanset for you) 14:09:49 <Ammler> dragonhorseboy: let us try to limit the chat in this channel to dev related things ;-) 14:16:05 <dragonhorseboy> sorry yeah ok :p 14:16:39 <dragonhorseboy> one of these few moments I forgot which window I was in.. once I was asking about a patch item in #jonty 14:19:53 <Ammler> user things are better placed in the generic channels #openttd #tycoon or where ever, then also others can help 14:21:54 <Ammler> (or #openttdcoop, if you want) 15:38:50 <dragonhorseboy> ammler could callback 3A be used to add non-gameplay tidbits such as eg lets say "owned by wallstreet house" to the industry dialogs? 15:39:18 <dragonhorseboy> just checking if I was reading that right 15:40:29 <Ammler> again ot here :-) 15:47:44 <dragonhorseboy> ammler..so .. an industry grf is ot? hmm... then why is firs on? heh 15:47:50 <dragonhorseboy> just humoring you 15:48:24 <dragonhorseboy> think I'm going off for now anyhow 15:48:33 <dragonhorseboy> bye ammler ;) 15:48:36 *** dragonhorseboy has left #openttdcoop.devzone 16:43:50 *** Doorslammer has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:08:30 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:20:10 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:24:25 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:25:37 *** Frankr is now known as Guest1311 17:29:07 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:32:30 *** Guest1311 has quit IRC 18:25:24 *** Frankr is now known as Guest1320 18:25:27 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:25:56 *** Doorslammer has quit IRC 18:31:58 *** Guest1320 has quit IRC 18:46:18 *** Frankr has quit IRC 18:46:41 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:11:20 <andythenorth> hi hi 19:14:40 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 19:15:02 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:29:50 <andythenorth> planetmaker: how was your weekend? 19:29:53 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Redmine - Revision 3236: Do not parse the entire git log to fetch new commits (takes several minu... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3236> || Redmine - Revision 3232: Merged r3392 from trunk (0.9.2 update). <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3232> || Redmine - Revision 3235: Update for 0.9.2 release. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3235> || Redmine - Revision 3231: Merged r3389 from trunk. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3231> 19:37:37 <planetmaker> moin andythenorth :-) Thanks, was very nice. How're you? 19:39:52 <andythenorth> I had some exciting adventures in C++ :) 19:40:30 <planetmaker> he :-) I saw you wrote a first version of the industry placement with space - or however it shall be called. Good thing. 19:40:51 <planetmaker> Is actually my answer correct, that it'd need 22 callback sprites just to test for all industries? 19:41:11 <planetmaker> or n/3 with n: # of industries 19:42:54 <andythenorth> planetmaker: it's definitely some kind of o(n) problem. I don't exactly know which, but it's the kind of thing that definitely should *not* be done when there might be 63 other industry types to check :o 19:43:03 <andythenorth> could be templated easy enough though 19:43:22 <planetmaker> yeah, but it doesn't feel proper IMO. 19:43:46 <andythenorth> it's a crap solution to the problem. My patch will do it right (if accepted). 19:44:15 <andythenorth> The other route is a hack on unused original industry tiles, which is equally workable but seems wrong. 19:44:34 <andythenorth> (an) other route I should say 19:57:54 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:17:18 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: 32bpp-extra - Bug #738: Fix 32bpp_extra.pnfo for non temperate climates <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/738#change-1970> 20:48:00 <andythenorth> planetmaker: if my industry patch makes it to trunk, it kills FIRS for Mac players who can't compile themselves. Kind of weird.... 20:48:15 <planetmaker> hehe 20:48:24 <planetmaker> well, does it? 20:48:26 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: 32bpp-extra - Support #739: Compatibility to every base set. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/739#change-1971> 20:48:36 <planetmaker> how would it kill it? 20:48:49 <andythenorth> 0.7.5 is the latest available binary for mac 20:48:56 <planetmaker> it would just lead to a more densly packed industry generation in old OpenTTD versions. 20:48:58 <planetmaker> No killer IMO 20:49:22 <andythenorth> no, I would be adding tiles that render the layouts invalid 20:49:46 <planetmaker> hm... right, it's a new tile class. 20:50:02 <andythenorth> it's the negative offsets that kill it. they make a layout invalid in current trunk 20:50:32 <planetmaker> Hm... can you mend it such (your patch) that it doesn't break FIRS to work on current trunk? 20:50:55 <andythenorth> no, I need to use negative offsets, they are a deal breaker for older version 20:50:56 <andythenorth> s 20:51:24 <planetmaker> I'm thinking in terms of "it changes NewGRF specs" - and those specs should be in a way that also TTDP could handle it. 20:51:26 <andythenorth> the alternative is some bonkers nfo checks....which I don't rule out but only if someone helps :o 20:51:58 <planetmaker> hm... alternative layouts, activated alternatingly by action7s. No big deal, Iguess 20:52:34 <andythenorth> yes, or abandon the 'clearance tile' route and use tile cb 2F to check clearance for every layout. That's about 2000 checks to write and test... 20:52:45 <planetmaker> err.. no 20:52:55 <planetmaker> eh... ? 2000? 20:54:03 <andythenorth> approx 50 industries, perhaps 12 edge tiles per layout, 3 or 4 layouts per industry.... 20:54:24 <andythenorth> mind you the varaction 2s could be templated in 20:54:58 <andythenorth> we'd need....maybe 16 factorial, or perhaps only 8 factorial :P 20:55:30 <andythenorth> oh no, maybe fewer than that, we could just repeat them. Only 8 actually 20:56:00 <andythenorth> meanwhile I'm sticking with the C++ challenge :) 20:56:16 <planetmaker> @calc !8 20:56:30 <planetmaker> @calc 2*3*4*5*6*7*8 20:56:30 <Webster> planetmaker: 40320 20:56:37 <andythenorth> nah, not that many :) 20:56:47 <planetmaker> 8 factorial is obviously a bit more ;-) 22:38:48 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: #openttdcoop Avignon Plugin - Code Review #732 (Closed): OSX is outdated too <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/732#change-1972> || #openttdcoop Avignon Plugin - Revision 10: -Change: Restructured download cmd <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/avignon-plugin/repository/revisions/10> 22:49:23 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:53:52 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: #openttdcoop Avignon Plugin - Code Review #730 (Closed): version for grfpack <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/730#change-1973> 23:30:20 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 23:30:38 *** Frankr has quit IRC 23:36:12 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone