Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 13th February 2010:
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00:00:25  <GT> right, and the number is the one determined by the output of: hg parent --template="{rev}"  if I understand the Makefile correctly
00:00:35  <GT> ?
00:01:21  <GT> Well, issueing a make bundle does not yet work here locally as well
00:02:33  <GT> I also may need to change the name of the Makefile.local to Makefile.local.sample, since Makefile.local is needed for the script?
00:03:00  <planetmaker> yes, that sounds about right
00:03:18  <planetmaker> Makefile.local is not needed
00:03:32  <planetmaker> Makefile.config is needed
00:03:55  <planetmaker> Makefile.local can be used to overwrite settings which are standard, but which you need different for whatever reason
00:04:34  <planetmaker> different on your machine only that is
00:04:51  <planetmaker> e.g. if you use a different zip programme
00:05:18  <planetmaker> or your c compiler is not called gcc but icc or whatever ;-)
00:06:52  <GT> Right, I used to use it when I did not yet have the project in hg, to provide make with a rev number. And don't worry, gcc is the one I use, although it may even be skipped with some smart textreplacing, since only the preprocessor is used for genereting the version in the nfo file
00:07:15  <planetmaker> yes, that's also a purpose: when exporting the source in a tarball ;-)
00:07:52  <planetmaker> little point to remove gcc support though: you need make anyway
00:07:58  <planetmaker> and then you have gcc, too ;-)
00:09:22  <planetmaker> I used to use gcc also in order to be able to use #define
00:09:33  <planetmaker> which can help with some repetitive stuff
00:09:43  <planetmaker> especially sprite offsets ;-)
00:13:28  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: 32bpp-extra - Revision 8: moved unneeded Makefile subfile to sample <>
00:15:11  <GT> The nice thing about 32bpp is that the offsets are coupled to the png files, not to the nfo. So once it is correctly pngcodeced, it does not need changing anymore
00:17:04  <planetmaker> well. Once offsets are correct, you don't need to touch them in the nfo source neither ;-)
00:18:04  <GT> Until you decide to change the order of the pcx file, that is
00:20:45  <GT> Anyway, I'll try to correct the makefile for the make bundle... targets, if it doesnt work I'll be around again. I'm off now, CU
00:24:16  <planetmaker> good night
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00:29:31  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: #openttdcoop - Support #742 (New): nightlies for 32bpp-extra <>
00:45:38  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: #openttdcoop - Support #742: nightlies for 32bpp-extra <>
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01:03:41  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: 32bpp-extra - Revision 9: remove obg stuff, not needed in this project <>
01:51:40  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: 32bpp-extra - Revision 10: changes for correct txt files in bundle <>
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10:33:49  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #596: Primary Industry Production Boosting Behaviour <>
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11:52:07  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: 32bpp-extra - Revision 11: Fix: don't wipe the pnfo file on make clean <> || Redmine - Revision 3259: Fixed a nil method error in Setting#value= <> || Redmine - Revision 3260: Fixing locales, rake locales:update added extra whitespace to the line. <> || Redmine - Revision 3258: Removed hard coded English string. <> || Redmine - Revision 3257: Refactor: Merged IssueStatusesController#list and #index. <> || Redmine - Revision 3256: Fixed: div.task incorrectly wrapping on Gantt Chart (#4813). <> || Redmine - Revision 3255: Issue relation: fixes error with postgres when entering a non-numeric id... <>
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16:05:32  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: #openttdcoop - Support #742 (Resolved): nightlies for 32bpp-extra <" target="_blank">> || #openttdcoop - Support #742: nightlies for 32bpp-extra <" target="_blank">> || #openttdcoop - Support #742 (Resolved): nightlies for 32bpp-extra <>
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16:21:17  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: 32bpp-extra - Revision 12: Fix:correct some skips in pnfo <>
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17:28:00  <planetmaker> got me Ammler :-) But it was way past midnight when I made the ticket... also to remind myself :-)
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17:56:12  <DJNekkid> planetmaker or Ammler here?
17:56:26  <planetmaker> little
17:56:44  <DJNekkid> could you add a new key for me?
17:56:49  <planetmaker> what can I do for you? :-)
17:56:52  <planetmaker> yes, sure
17:57:04  <DJNekkid> i send you the .pub file on tt-forums?
17:57:06  <planetmaker> is the old still valid?
17:57:11  <DJNekkid> no
17:57:15  <planetmaker> ok
17:57:36  <planetmaker> yes, tt-forums is fine. You could also attach it to the devzone or use
17:59:10  <DJNekkid> sent
17:59:26  <DJNekkid> check if the format of it is correct :)
18:01:37  <planetmaker> try to login. I'm not entirely sure. Looks a bit odd
18:02:23  <DJNekkid> oki...
18:02:25  <planetmaker> the devzone has a tutorial on how to generate the proper key
18:03:57  <DJNekkid> that was the one i followed iirc
18:04:00  <DJNekkid> its a few days ago
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18:05:55  <planetmaker> ok
18:09:33  <planetmaker> <-- that's what the others look like, though
18:10:30  <DJNekkid> lol... i keeping doing linux commands in my windows command line
18:10:33  <DJNekkid> "ls" :)
18:11:26  <DJNekkid> and again, what was the command to get a fresh copy from the server?
18:11:43  <DJNekkid> hg clone ssh:// ?
18:12:08  <planetmaker> hg clone ssh:// 2cctrainset
18:12:15  <planetmaker> maybe it works without dir, dunno
18:12:39  <DJNekkid> oh ...
18:12:53  <DJNekkid> it needs a ssh://<user>@url
18:12:58  <DJNekkid> what was that user again?
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18:13:32  <DJNekkid> ottdc or something
18:15:12  <planetmaker> yes
18:16:10  <DJNekkid> "remote: ssh is not recoginzed as a internal og external commando"
18:18:11  <DJNekkid> and when trying to do it via HTTP ...
18:18:54  <DJNekkid> (hg clone
18:19:14  <DJNekkid> abort: error: getaddrinfo failed
18:19:16  <DJNekkid> bah
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18:23:43  <planetmaker> [paths]
18:23:44  <planetmaker> default =
18:23:46  <planetmaker> default-push = ssh://
18:23:55  <planetmaker> mind the hg-repos instead of hg when using sshs
18:23:57  <planetmaker> *ssh
18:24:01  <DJNekkid> yes---
18:25:57  <DJNekkid> it works, ofcourse, on the linux drive...
18:26:02  <DJNekkid> (machine)
18:26:26  <DJNekkid> it complains about key tho
18:26:40  <DJNekkid> so, where would i add the .ppk file in linux?
18:31:45  <planetmaker> ~/.ssh
18:32:09  <planetmaker> but... I don't have ppk files there.
18:32:34  <planetmaker> just my ingo_id_dsa and
18:32:41  <planetmaker> the latter is what I have also on the server
18:36:29  <DJNekkid> and i assume i need some command to actually "add" it to some register somewhere?
18:37:19  <planetmaker> no
18:37:27  <planetmaker> Having it in that dir is fine and enough
18:37:30  <DJNekkid> even if i generated in windows?
18:37:39  <planetmaker> I don't know windoze files
18:37:52  <DJNekkid> ill try to create a new one with linux then...
18:37:58  <planetmaker> but you can generally put any key there
18:38:03  <KenjiE20> ppk's aren't OpenSSH iirc
18:38:13  <KenjiE20> though there should be an option to export one
18:38:16  <planetmaker> I keep my keys and put them on new machines
18:42:02  <planetmaker> I *think* KenjiE20 is right, though
18:42:31  <DJNekkid> oki...
18:42:37  <DJNekkid> i did make one in linux...
18:43:05  <KenjiE20> I prefer to have a key for each PC/OS anyway
18:44:45  <DJNekkid>
18:44:49  <DJNekkid> this was created with linux
18:45:21  <KenjiE20> erm... isn't that YOUR key? i.e. the one you're NOT supposed to hand out?
18:45:52  <DJNekkid> who knows :)
18:45:59  <DJNekkid> not me :P
18:46:05  <KenjiE20> the "PRIVATE KEY" is probably a give away
18:46:34  <DJNekkid> hehe
18:46:45  * DJNekkid jumps in a hole in the ground :)
18:47:34  <DJNekkid>
18:47:36  <DJNekkid> better`
18:47:37  <DJNekkid> ?
18:47:51  <DJNekkid> but i should probably create a new one now :)
18:48:08  <KenjiE20> yea, that'd be the public one, presumably from the .pub file :P
18:49:49  <DJNekkid>
18:49:53  <DJNekkid> there then :)
18:50:19  <KenjiE20> hurrah
18:50:56  <DJNekkid> i guess i'll use the linux-box to do stuffs then :)
18:51:23  <planetmaker> try now. That key looks better
18:51:35  <DJNekkid> and the +side is, i can do it from work, without the need to install software on that computer
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18:55:04  <DJNekkid> remote: Illegal repository '/home/ottdc/hg-repos/2cctranset'
18:55:04  <DJNekkid> abort: no suitable response from remote hg!
18:55:36  <KenjiE20> you forgot an 'i'
18:55:44  <DJNekkid> i certainly did!
18:56:10  <DJNekkid> holy canoly! it works!'
18:57:39  <DJNekkid> yey! downloaed!
18:59:44  <planetmaker> nice :-)
19:01:06  <DJNekkid> so ... who is your favorite olypic sport?
19:01:43  <DJNekkid> and; who will win that one?
19:11:11  <planetmaker> I don't care :-P
19:11:40  <DJNekkid> hehe!
19:11:55  <DJNekkid> germany are bound to win a few golds...
19:12:01  <DJNekkid> i bet you end up with 6 or 7
19:12:16  <DJNekkid> and norway with 11 or 12 if everything goes our way
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19:17:24  <planetmaker> hehe :-)
19:17:53  <planetmaker> I think though, that biathlon is a nice thing there
19:18:05  <DJNekkid> nah!
19:18:27  <DJNekkid> Ole Einar Bjørndalen or Emil Heggely Svendsen will take thoose from you... Perhaps the relay tho :P
19:19:41  <planetmaker> I don't say that any German will win it. I just say that it's one of the nicer winter sports ;-)
19:20:02  <planetmaker> And I know only very very few names of those athlets... as said... I don't care much ;-)
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19:20:26  <DJNekkid> hehe! :D:D
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21:40:15  <DJNekkid> female 7,5km skishooting :)
21:40:18  <DJNekkid> err ... biathlon
21:46:43  <planetmaker> doesn't sound like you :-P. Male, couch potatoe, playing CS:S :-P
21:46:47  * planetmaker hides
21:47:02  <DJNekkid> i've never played CS ...
21:47:06  <DJNekkid> but i like winter sports...
21:47:08  * planetmaker neither ;-)
21:47:24  <planetmaker> :-) Yeah, if we always had winters like this one, I'd like them, too :-)
21:47:26  <DJNekkid> but the two others are somewhat true :)
21:47:42  <DJNekkid> and how has your winter been? snowfree or snowfull?
21:47:58  <planetmaker> we have snow since beginning of January.
21:48:07  <planetmaker> That's quite unusual
21:48:28  <planetmaker> Freezing nearly all the time. We just had snow the last two days. Not much, just a few cm, but still
21:48:58  <DJNekkid> our first snow came about 15-20th december, and its been here since then...
21:49:06  <planetmaker> The road I live on has tracks for the cars. If you want to leave the tracks, you have to climb 5.. 10 cm of ice
21:49:12  <planetmaker> makes parking an adventure
21:49:18  <DJNekkid> same here m8....
21:49:33  <DJNekkid> but snow itself is ok
21:49:40  <planetmaker> I saw already several people give up to park their car here ;-)
21:50:00  <DJNekkid> but when the temperature go up and down and the snow semi-melts, and then it turns to ice...
21:50:06  <DJNekkid> THAT is what i hate...
21:50:12  <planetmaker> yes :-) Well. That happend
21:50:15  <DJNekkid> AND: then it snow new 15cm ...
21:50:20  <DJNekkid> and it gets INSANELY slippery
21:50:24  <planetmaker> We have currently snow-covered ice
21:50:50  <planetmaker> only the main streets are free. And communities are out of salt :-P
21:50:58  <DJNekkid> luckily do we have about +5c and its been raining yesterday and today...
21:51:12  <planetmaker> uh... warmer than here ;-)
21:51:14  <DJNekkid> so it _,might_ melt down somewhat the next couple of days
21:52:10  <planetmaker> -2°C currently. The thermometer right next to my window
21:52:19  <planetmaker> so not the coldest spot there might be ;-)
21:52:46  <DJNekkid> according to windows Aero weather-thingy do we have 0c right now
21:55:18  <DJNekkid> hi from Kristine :)
21:55:28  <DJNekkid> she even typed it herselves :)
21:59:47  <DJNekkid> brb
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22:03:23  <planetmaker> hey Kristine :-)
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22:10:13  <DJNekkid> i just had to set up a VNC client to her as well :)
22:10:59  <DJNekkid> or ... account
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22:15:56  <planetmaker> :-)
22:18:09  <DJNekkid> im slowly, very slowly, getting _somewhat_ familiar with this linux-thingy
22:18:23  <planetmaker> :-)
22:18:54  <DJNekkid> but it seems like the procsessor, or whatever, gets a "hang" every now and then
22:19:08  <planetmaker> uuuh... that's bad
22:19:27  <DJNekkid> music played from it (via samba), or video for that matter, seem to "hang" a second every ... i dunno ... 10ish minutes or something
22:19:37  <DJNekkid> and even the VNC picture hangs ...
22:19:52  <DJNekkid> i just noticed it were actually at the same point... as Kristine plays music, and im via VNC
22:20:00  <DJNekkid> and the picture froze for a second or two
22:20:13  <planetmaker> hm... can be anything or nothing
22:20:26  <DJNekkid> im tempted to say its the wireless...
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22:21:25  <planetmaker> that sound like one source of such problems, yes ;-)
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22:36:07  <Ammler> so, we have a gold, how many have you?
22:37:53  <planetmaker> I have a sleep ;-) Good night
22:45:34  <Chris_Booth> Ammler: i have 4tonnes of gold
22:48:41  <DJNekkid> what is the Kg price of gold now? around 8000euro?
22:49:10  <Ammler> DJNekkid: he means in openttd ;-)
22:50:07  <Ammler> DJNekkid: just read about your talk with pm about olympic medails
22:50:23  <DJNekkid> hehe
22:50:46  <DJNekkid> do you have any particular gold/medal favorites? Alpine?
22:50:56  <DJNekkid> or ski jump?
22:51:10  <Ammler> yes, ski apline we get 2-3 gold
22:51:27  <Ammler> men downhill
22:51:41  <DJNekkid> We got a dude in alpine as well ...
22:51:51  <DJNekkid> he will hopefully take the SuperG gold
22:52:06  <Ammler> :-)
22:52:17  <DJNekkid> Aksel Lund Svindal :)
22:52:35  <Ammler> Yes, he is a good skier
22:52:48  <DJNekkid> he is more of a alrounder tho...
22:53:03  <DJNekkid> so he is pretty good in all flavours, and not SUPERGOOD in one of them ...
22:53:10  <DJNekkid> like _most_ previous norwegian dudes
22:53:34  <DJNekkid> but they usually take one gold and a couple of other medals ...
22:53:41  <DJNekkid> i mean, they have 6 good chances...
22:53:45  <Ammler> yeah, you have all the time such good but a very little team
22:54:04  <DJNekkid> yea...
22:54:40  <Ammler> As long as they are before Austria, it is fine.
22:54:43  <DJNekkid> hehe
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22:54:54  <DJNekkid> austria vs swizz is like norway vs sweden?
22:55:08  <Ammler> well, currently we have no chance.
22:55:27  <Ammler> but we win in almost every other sport
22:55:38  <DJNekkid> hehe
22:55:46  <Ammler> but sadly, Ski Alpine is the most important one
22:56:59  <DJNekkid> hehe... thats wierd ... two (three with norway) of the most hilly and steep and moutainous countries in europe... .)
22:57:16  <DJNekkid> bound to be good alpine skiers :)
22:57:59  <Ammler> I would say logical, not wierd
22:58:09  <DJNekkid> exactly
22:58:34  <DJNekkid> my irony probably werent THAT obvious :)
22:59:06  <Ammler> somtimes the USA breaks that, but they might have some mountains there too :-)
22:59:46  <DJNekkid> yup... thoose rockeys :)
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23:28:49  <DJNekkid> well ... its time to go to a Gig now ... im gonna start in 20 mins :)
23:31:31  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: 32bpp-extra - Revision 14: Add: finally.. some 32bpp coast tile sprites <> || 32bpp-extra - Revision 13: Codechange: prepare for the advent of the pngs <>
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