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01:47:43 *** KenjiE20|LT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 01:50:51 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 02:59:12 *** KenjiE20|LT has quit IRC 05:24:13 *** Frankr has quit IRC 08:52:55 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:05:33 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:47:12 <Hirundo> Ammler: Do you know what went wrong with the IS patching? 10:59:05 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 11:21:30 <Rubidium> planetmaker: the readme of omsx is a bit of a mess :( 11:21:50 <Rubidium> mentioning of GRF_TITLE/OpenGFX 11:22:24 <planetmaker> he... Thanks. I shall fix that when I have it in a proper repo. 11:23:01 <planetmaker> I guess I should have spent 1 minute more on that zip ;-) 11:23:06 <Rubidium> openmsx links to .../omso (shouldn't that be /omsx ? 11:24:16 <planetmaker> uh? It is omso in there?! 11:24:31 <Rubidium> default = http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/omso 11:24:49 <planetmaker> oh, there. Yes, that's wrong, too 11:24:57 <planetmaker> actually it will be openmsx 11:25:32 <Rubidium> if you give a 'final' description I can wrap it into the base translations topic; you'll only have to ask the 'current' translators to translate that string too (pm or so?) 11:25:56 <planetmaker> That'd be a nice idea :-) 11:25:59 <planetmaker> Let me look... 11:26:59 <Rubidium> personally I'd put the .obm in the directory with the midis 11:28:10 <planetmaker> well. Yes. But it is not supported to put it into sub-dirs of gm 11:28:23 <planetmaker> I tried and it didn't work for me 11:28:36 <planetmaker> And it would make sense IMO to separate different music sets 11:29:27 <planetmaker> Hm... would the same default text as OpenGFX make sense? "Please download from the official source"? 11:29:37 <planetmaker> That's generic enough to be always right 11:30:09 <Rubidium> ah, those error messages for missing files. Don't bother too much about that right now I'd say 11:30:45 <Rubidium> I'll look into subdirectory support for the midis; hmm, does it actually work with tars? 11:30:57 <Rubidium> something to check later 11:31:05 <planetmaker> nope. Tars don't work at all 11:31:20 <planetmaker> That was the first thing I tried 11:31:56 <Rubidium> so, something to fix :) 11:32:03 <planetmaker> :-) 11:32:43 <planetmaker> so, would you recommend to use an explicit link in the "default" message? 11:36:38 <planetmaker> Ah, I think OpenGFX's default message is fine in the OpenMSX case, too 11:37:05 <planetmaker> I'll adopt it accordingly and all is fine. 11:52:59 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:10:22 <Rubidium> planetmaker: I'll be gone in something like 15 minutes, so... if I need to add it I need to know it in that time, or it'll be changed tomorrow 12:11:12 <planetmaker> Rubidium: Well... do you think that an URL is good in that place? 12:11:23 <planetmaker> Or like OpenGFX? 12:11:46 <planetmaker> I rarely encounter that string myself... 12:17:19 <planetmaker> ^ Ammler any opinion 12:17:30 <planetmaker> for the default= string in base sets? 12:20:41 <planetmaker> Rubidium: "Please re-download from BaNaNas or http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/openmsx" 12:22:10 <Rubidium> as I said, don't worry about that 'default' string too much; it isn't translatable right now, and won't be in 1.0; maybe it'll be translateable in 1.1 12:25:08 <planetmaker> "no worry" then translates into "re-use either OpenGFX or OpenSFX string" ;-) 12:28:13 * Rubidium is gone 12:38:31 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:43:23 <Frankr> hello people 12:44:19 <Frankr> dj 12:44:54 <Frankr> when you said rl fuel (you meant real life there correct?) 13:03:39 *** ODM has quit IRC 13:03:55 <planetmaker> usually rl = real life 13:04:00 <planetmaker> so it'd be a safe assumption 13:14:49 <Frankr> thanks pm 13:37:59 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 15056: (svn r19182) -Codechange: Use CommandCost return value i... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2/repository/revisions/15056> || Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 15055: (svn r19181) -Change: rework the order of the data in th... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2/repository/revisions/15055> || Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 15054: (svn r19180) -Add/Fix: (partial) support for genders for... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2/repository/revisions/15054> || Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 15053: (svn r19179) -Codechange: make strgen do some checking o... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2/repository/revisions/15053> || Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 15052: (svn r19178) -Fix: [MSVC] regenerate lang files on strge... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2/repository/revisions/15052> || Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 15051: (svn r19177) -Codechange: introduce INT8_MIN/MAX and UIN... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2/repository/revisions/15051> || Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 15050: (svn r19176) -Fix [FS#3632] (r17859): when selecting "bu... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2/repository/revisions/15050> || Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 15049: (svn r19174) -Fix: Buoys are no Stations, only BaseStati... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2/repository/revisions/15049> || Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 15048: (svn r19173) -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2/repository/revisions/15048> || Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 15047: (svn r19172) -Codechange: Move road checks from CmdBuild... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2/repository/revisions/15047> || Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 15046: (svn r19171) -Codechange: Split CheckFlatLandBelow into ... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2/repository/revisions/15046> || Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 15045: (svn r19170) -Codechange: Make CheckFlatLandBelow use Ti... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2/repository/revisions/15045> || Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 15044: (svn r19169) -Codechange: Move buildable tile checks out... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/is2/repository/revisions/15044> 13:53:50 *** planetmaker is now known as tycoon 13:54:59 *** tycoon is now known as planetmaker 13:55:50 *** planetmaker is now known as Tycoon 13:56:29 *** Tycoon is now known as planetmaker 14:59:51 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:33:27 *** Frankr has quit IRC 16:08:23 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:12:00 *** planetmaker is now known as DevServer 16:12:41 *** DevServer is now known as planetmaker 16:19:35 *** planetmaker is now known as Tycoon 16:20:02 *** Tycoon is now known as planetmaker 16:31:31 *** Intexon has quit IRC 16:42:59 <Frankr> dj 16:44:15 <Frankr> does anyone know if you can have a one off fee after the plane has been bought through the year? 16:44:50 <Frankr> like a purchase cost such as a 0B on a specific sprite 16:45:01 <Frankr> using callback 36 16:49:37 <Frankr> The idea is to have a landing fee relating to a specific sprite to make planes more balanced. 16:50:42 <PeterT> You should probably highlight him 16:50:59 <Frankr> i did 16:51:10 <Frankr> i typed dj 16:51:13 <PeterT> You wrote 'dj' 16:51:16 <PeterT> highlighting would be 16:51:19 <PeterT> DJNekkid: ^ 16:51:27 <Frankr> which is a highlight of his 16:53:59 <DJNekkid> im back 16:54:12 <DJNekkid> or ... im here :) 16:54:31 <PeterT> ...because I highlighted you 16:55:26 <DJNekkid> hmm ... 16:55:50 <DJNekkid> im not exactly sure what you ask? 16:56:47 <Frankr> Right is it possible to put a one off cost attributed to a specific graphic 16:57:25 <DJNekkid> running costs yes 16:57:33 <Frankr> i.e. once this graphic is shown a purchase cost (kind of cost) is paid 16:58:12 <DJNekkid> that isnt possible to my knowledge 16:58:41 <DJNekkid> my thought were to add a rise in the running costs for a short period 16:59:07 <Frankr> ok 16:59:28 <Frankr> i suppose 16:59:42 <Frankr> we could calculate a specific cost though, correct? 16:59:51 <DJNekkid> sure can 17:00:01 <DJNekkid> but i think you should put the planes in classes... 17:00:03 <DJNekkid> from 1 to 5 17:00:14 <DJNekkid> large ones in class 5, small ones in 1 17:00:36 <Frankr> i.e. i mean a running cost which is calculated to be 70k over the landing distance or something, or are airports to variable 17:00:57 <Frankr> you mean action 3 them? 17:01:29 <DJNekkid> no 17:02:02 <DJNekkid> classes based on weight of the plane 17:02:14 <DJNekkid> (Mtow) 17:02:41 <Frankr> and do what with it though 17:02:46 <DJNekkid> well 17:02:54 <DJNekkid> the different classes have different landing fees 17:04:25 <Frankr> rather than everyplane having different landing fees 17:04:33 <DJNekkid> yes 17:04:40 <Frankr> i suppose it will make it easier on my part 17:05:27 <Frankr> and then substitute that in the xx 00 15 15 running cost 17:07:07 <Frankr> how would i go about putting the planes in classes then dj, (code wise) 17:12:42 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 17:14:02 <DJNekkid> put them in a list in notepad or someting? 17:14:40 <Frankr> ah i thought you meant in the actual code 17:16:39 <Frankr> Dj do you by happen to any chance have any idea if the sprites are shown for the same amount of time on all airports 17:17:25 <DJNekkid> it depends on the landing speed of the aircraft i guess? 17:17:59 <Frankr> but for the same aircraft would it be the same on all do you know, i guessing not 17:18:13 <Frankr> well i would be happily suprised, :) 17:24:28 <Frankr> Dj thanks for the help but we have calculated it to impossible 17:27:23 <Frankr> we would have to set the running cost to 25mill for us to have a 70k landing fee which is just a bit crazy (because of there only being one tick on the landing sprite) 17:27:30 <Frankr> :) 17:44:41 <DJNekkid> but, isnt 70k quite steep? 17:44:58 <DJNekkid> but i see your point :) 17:46:49 <Frankr> well we hadn't decided yet but we wanted at around the £30k landing fee 17:47:53 <Frankr> but it is also to variable 17:48:18 <Frankr> if you have plane speed on 1/4 thn your costs will be alot higher than 1/1 17:57:47 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Autopilot - Bug #747: IRC name issue <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/747#change-2007" target="_blank">http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/747#change-2007> || Autopilot - Bug #747 (New): IRC name issue <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/747> 17:59:21 <DJNekkid> but that can be discovered, and its set properly 18:06:06 <Frankr> really 18:06:17 <Frankr> i didn't know that 18:13:05 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Autopilot - Bug #747 (Confirmed): IRC name issue <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/747#change-2008" target="_blank">http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/747#change-2008> || Nutracks - Revision 8: Fix: 3rd rail and 3rd rail + catenary had opposite building costs <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nutracks/repository/revisions/8> || Autopilot - Bug #747 (Confirmed): IRC name issue <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/747> 18:13:56 <Ammler> DJNekkid: add username to your local hg config 18:14:24 <Ammler> your local global config 18:15:05 <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nutracks/repository/committers helps a bit 18:16:22 <DJNekkid> oh ... ofcourse, i might not have set that ... 18:16:44 <Ammler> DJNekkid: that is why I propose to edit your global conf 18:16:54 <DJNekkid> where would i find that? :P 18:16:55 <Ammler> so you don't have to care about every single repo 18:17:08 <Ammler> ~/.hgrc 18:17:52 <DJNekkid> no .hgrc in my home-dir... 18:17:58 <Ammler> windows? 18:18:03 <DJNekkid> linux 18:18:08 <Ammler> then create it 18:18:34 <DJNekkid> lol, oki :) 18:19:02 <Ammler> [ui] 18:19:04 <Ammler> username = Ammler <ammler@openttdcoop.org> 18:20:22 <DJNekkid> that might be better :) 18:20:36 <Ammler> my whole file: http://pastebin.ca/1804857 18:21:12 <Ammler> the global ignore file has mostly OS specific things 18:21:45 <Ammler> things you like to ignore but doen't belong to the repo itslef 18:22:37 <DJNekkid> i cant access pastebin :) 18:23:26 <Ammler> why that? 18:28:25 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Nutracks - Revision 9: Fix: 3rd + catenary had wrong costfactor <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nutracks/repository/revisions/9> 18:34:11 <DJNekkid> i dont know := 18:34:12 <DJNekkid> :) 18:34:44 <DJNekkid> hmm, the browser seems f*cked 18:35:35 <Ammler> you are on the server with vlc? 18:35:40 <Ammler> vnc I meant 18:36:07 <Ammler> oh btw. I am sorry about your lost yesterday. 18:36:18 <Ammler> we both have :-( 18:37:18 <Ammler> it happens, as you quite, if you would have been stayed around... 18:37:37 <Ammler> -e 18:42:53 <DJNekkid> yes ... via VNC :) 18:57:08 <PeterT> does autopilot/ap+ enable startup commands/ 18:57:14 <PeterT> like identifying to a supybot? 19:02:16 <Ammler> PeterT: please check the custom commands.... 19:02:25 <Ammler> (again) 19:02:57 <PeterT> Ok 19:05:36 <DJNekkid> got anyone in the 15km commonstart Ammler ? 19:06:05 <Ammler> commonstart? 19:06:28 <Ammler> ah Bulkstart? 19:06:33 <DJNekkid> probably .) 19:06:38 <DJNekkid> biathlon 19:06:49 <Ammler> dunno 19:07:25 <DJNekkid> no swizz flags as far as i could see 19:07:53 <Ammler> currently there is only curling on tv 19:09:19 <Frankr> who is playing Ammler? 19:11:06 <DJNekkid> Frankr: dont mind dale 19:11:14 <Frankr> lol 19:11:17 <DJNekkid> he probably just confuses you 19:11:52 <Frankr> lol 19:14:05 <DJNekkid> Ammler: there is a "T. Frei" with a swiz flag on him :) 19:16:14 <Ammler> oh Frei might be good 19:16:20 <Ammler> around 15. at the end? 19:16:59 <DJNekkid> there have been two shootings now... 19:35:17 <DJNekkid> yey! 19:35:38 <DJNekkid> the pizza we ordered took more then 1hr to deliver, so we will pay 1/2 price :) 19:35:48 <Frankr> nice 19:35:54 <Frankr> i'm ordering later 19:35:55 <Frankr> lol 19:36:29 <Frankr> i hope mine is half price, :) 19:36:31 <DJNekkid> original price: 375kr, now: 375/2's :) 19:37:31 <DJNekkid> btw: for some fun TTD'ing; get the "early houses" that were modded... 19:37:51 <Frankr> how have they been modded 19:37:52 <DJNekkid> so it gets 1/2 pax 19:38:01 <DJNekkid> then get cargodist 19:38:03 <DJNekkid> nutracks 19:38:03 <Frankr> ah mega has that 19:38:04 <DJNekkid> and 2cc set 19:38:13 <Frankr> mega has top two 19:38:26 <DJNekkid> mega? 19:38:43 <Frankr> Clanmega 19:38:54 <Frankr> #openttdmegaclan 19:39:02 <DJNekkid> never been there 19:39:06 <Frankr> :) 19:39:09 <DJNekkid> im just doing some single player testing 19:39:21 <PeterT> DJNekkid: so go there :-{ 19:39:47 <Frankr> we have a server with both IS CD and early houses and old 2cc i think 19:40:01 <Frankr> i don't think it is very early on any more though 19:41:16 <DJNekkid> but the "early houses" dont half it after 1900 or something :) 19:46:37 <DJNekkid> hmm, we need more DMU's :) 19:55:23 <Frankr> :) 20:16:09 <DJNekkid> mmm! 1/2 price pizza :) 20:16:12 <DJNekkid> 162,50kr :) 20:16:25 <DJNekkid> (18euro or somethign) 20:16:39 <DJNekkid> including 1,5l cola and garlic/sour cream dressing 20:16:57 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 585: Change: cargo WOOD now defined as 'piece goods' for... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/585> 20:17:12 <DJNekkid> and not only that, im in 1978 and im starting to earn _quite_ good moneys :) 20:18:28 <Frankr> :) 20:18:32 <Frankr> nice dj 20:18:41 <Frankr> all your hard work paying off 20:18:54 <DJNekkid> yea... 20:18:58 <DJNekkid> im up to half a mill now 20:19:08 <DJNekkid> but i need a couple of quite long sections of 230kmh lines... 20:19:19 <DJNekkid> probably need to re-borrow that other half mill :) 20:19:50 <DJNekkid> made a DB103 with doubledecker between my two largest cities 20:20:00 <Frankr> :) 20:20:55 <DJNekkid> and three cities now needs a metro ring 20:24:18 <DJNekkid> bug! :D 20:24:55 <Frankr> bug? 20:25:23 <DJNekkid> in 2cc set :) 20:26:02 <Frankr> what is it 20:26:48 <DJNekkid> metrowagon didnt have a nutrack-sensor 20:27:16 <Frankr> how is the nutrack? 20:27:31 <planetmaker> expensive 20:27:37 <DJNekkid> im quite biased, but its awsome :P 20:27:42 <DJNekkid> and yes, expensive :) 20:27:50 <Frankr> lol 20:27:58 <Frankr> i like expensive 20:27:58 <planetmaker> and hello friends :-) 20:28:02 <Frankr> hello pm 20:28:12 <Frankr> which is why WAS is so expensive 20:28:27 <Frankr> well not yet but will be by next public 20:28:41 <DJNekkid> good things! 20:29:08 <DJNekkid> elrails without any speedlimit cost 10k/tile 20:29:17 <DJNekkid> 230kmh speedlimit is 3000/tile 20:29:26 <DJNekkid> 160kmh is 1000/tile 20:29:33 <Frankr> 10k a tile wow 20:29:41 <Frankr> still will be cheaper by air 20:29:43 <Frankr> :) 20:29:54 <DJNekkid> maglev will be 25000/tile :) 20:30:00 <DJNekkid> or ... 25500 :) 20:30:10 <Frankr> wow, don't make a mistake 20:30:17 <Frankr> :p 20:30:29 <DJNekkid> but by the time you can build the 2cc chimaera, you _probably_ have LOTS of cash anyway 20:30:36 <DJNekkid> and its quite nice to have something to spend it on 20:31:00 <Frankr> i think i'll be building in normal 20:31:05 <Frankr> and then track converting 20:31:28 <DJNekkid> still gonna cost you 20:31:55 <Frankr> yh but mistakes will be less costly 20:32:06 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: 2cc train set - Revision 447: Fix: The Metro-wagon didnt have a check to spot NuTracks, and thus ... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/447> 20:32:19 <Frankr> i try my hardest to make planes balanced and you do that, lol :) 20:32:19 <DJNekkid> hehe, true enough 20:32:41 <DJNekkid> balance them to to 2cc set :) 20:33:08 <Frankr> more than £3.3mill for an A380 20:33:26 <DJNekkid> the Chimaera cost 1mill or something like that 20:33:35 <Frankr> euros or £ 20:33:40 <DJNekkid> £ 20:33:44 <DJNekkid> all my figures are £ 20:34:28 <Frankr> nice to know, :) 20:34:54 <Frankr> There will be a harder price for people if they want 20:35:12 <Frankr> but normal i think is fair at £3.3mill 20:35:36 <DJNekkid> the 2cc set do have a cost-parameter as well 20:35:57 <DJNekkid> can double prices 20:36:01 <DJNekkid> and half them 8 times 20:36:02 <DJNekkid> or 7 20:36:42 <Frankr> you can't do that 20:36:55 <DJNekkid> on the 2cc set you can 20:38:16 <Frankr> :) 20:38:27 <Frankr> i don't see it necessary for WAS 20:38:35 <Frankr> i don't want planes really cheap 20:38:51 <Frankr> the lowest is for Cargodest people only 20:39:01 <Frankr> really 20:39:02 <DJNekkid> not even for the folks who wanna play sandbox? 20:39:48 <Frankr> they can the parameter to the lowest which is 2 normal price 20:40:14 <DJNekkid> ya 20:40:18 <Frankr> or leave it at 8*normal price as default 20:40:42 <Frankr> or put it to 16*normal price 20:41:04 <Frankr> they will most likely be the options for them 20:43:11 <Frankr> i think that is enough choice, if people ask then i may introduce lower but prices will be alot more than the alpha 20:47:09 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 586: Change: cargo WDPR now defined as 'bulk, piece good... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/586> 20:48:13 <Frankr> lol, Djnekkid 20:48:58 <Frankr> for impossible mode, you can buy an A380 for 0mill how does that sound 20:49:24 <DJNekkid> overkill :) 20:49:36 <Frankr> real life price 20:49:38 <DJNekkid> 3,3mill is harsh enough 20:49:49 <Frankr> lol 20:50:09 <DJNekkid> quite long ROI on 3.3mill either way 20:50:20 <Frankr> 3.3mill is fair with the income it gets 20:51:42 <Frankr> not as much as a chimera 20:52:24 *** PeterT_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:54:18 <DJNekkid> but a chimaera require quite large ammounts of infrastructure as well 20:54:41 <Frankr> exactly 20:54:50 <Frankr> so even longer ROI 20:55:36 <DJNekkid> yup... :) 20:55:43 <Frankr> :) 20:55:56 <DJNekkid> but, by 2010 and 2035 one usualy have gazillions :) 20:56:03 <Frankr> what are the running costs on your chimera 20:56:13 <Frankr> well A380 is in 2007 20:56:32 <planetmaker> [21:56] <Frankr> well A380 is in 2007 <-- ayn't that too early? 20:56:37 <planetmaker> Rather like 2009 or so? 20:56:43 <Frankr> nope 20:56:51 <Frankr> first one was delivered in 2007 20:57:04 <planetmaker> jeez. Seems I'm getting old then... 20:57:29 <Frankr> lol 20:57:36 <Frankr> they have made about 30 so far 20:58:30 <Frankr> it doesn't seem that long ago, pm :) 20:58:35 <DJNekkid> planetmaker: did you se my thought about running costs on "slow" tracks? 20:58:44 <planetmaker> possibly not 20:58:58 <Frankr> cheaper? 20:58:59 <planetmaker> I'm in a somewhat un-attentive phase :-P 20:59:09 <Frankr> ;) 20:59:16 <DJNekkid> in the running cost procedure, add in a lower cost if it runs on slower track 20:59:18 <planetmaker> where, DJNekkid ? 20:59:30 <DJNekkid> it were here on irc yesterday 20:59:35 <DJNekkid> or the day before 21:00:10 <planetmaker> he... 21:00:40 <Frankr> :), note to self planetmaker may need reminding about things 21:00:50 <planetmaker> sure ;-) 21:00:53 <DJNekkid> point was 21:01:13 <DJNekkid> if an engine capable of running 200kmh runs on 120kmh track, it probably dont use all its power 21:01:29 <DJNekkid> thus, it should be cheaper to run 21:01:38 <Frankr> yh 21:01:41 <planetmaker> makes sense 21:01:42 <DJNekkid> but otoh 21:01:54 <DJNekkid> this dont encourge the usage of the slower engines on slower sidelins 21:01:59 <DJNekkid> *lines 21:02:11 <DJNekkid> as one _might_ upgrade it 21:02:13 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 587: Change: cargo label for FRUT is now FRVG <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/587> 21:02:24 <Frankr> true, and get the benefits 21:02:37 *** PeterT_ has quit IRC 21:02:50 <Frankr> faster acceleration and what not 21:02:57 <DJNekkid> yes...:) 21:03:10 <DJNekkid> but that faster acceleration will be there either way 21:03:14 <DJNekkid> but it will cost more... 21:03:22 <DJNekkid> so its a double edge sword... 21:03:57 <Ammler> DJNekkid: thanks for bronze :-) 21:04:01 <Frankr> yh 21:04:10 <DJNekkid> on what? 21:04:16 <Ammler> ski combi 21:04:22 <DJNekkid> is that finished? 21:04:29 <Ammler> svindal was first after downhill 21:04:37 <DJNekkid> isnt it two slalom runs? 21:04:43 <Ammler> no 21:04:50 <Ammler> :-D 21:04:53 <Ammler> oh, you missed it? 21:05:02 <DJNekkid> yea 21:05:05 <Frankr> looks like 21:05:08 <Frankr> :) 21:05:11 <DJNekkid> i thought the 2nd run were at midnight 21:05:37 <DJNekkid> oh... Aksel went out of bounds 21:05:39 <Ammler> well, svindal is out, but he would also have lost if he finished the race 21:06:17 <DJNekkid> lost over miller? 21:06:30 <DJNekkid> well... its female shooting now :9 21:07:41 <Ammler> ski cross is now :-) 21:08:03 *** PeterT_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:08:13 <Frankr> Dj what are the running costs of you Chimera? 21:08:21 *** PeterT_ has quit IRC 21:08:28 <DJNekkid> sec 21:08:36 <PeterT> what is the password for bnc.openttdcoop.org? 21:08:58 <PeterT> @ Ammler 21:09:17 <DJNekkid> 1,382mill P-cost (costfactor 255) and 406k running cost 21:09:22 <DJNekkid> but im concidering to half that 21:09:24 <DJNekkid> i.e. 21:09:26 <DJNekkid> the running cost 21:09:47 <DJNekkid> because of the high infrastructure cost 21:10:14 <Frankr> that is quite expensive 21:10:23 <Frankr> although we need to refactor ours now 21:10:24 <DJNekkid> 1000kmh :) 21:10:38 <Frankr> so ours will be about 150k ish 21:10:44 <Frankr> oh nice 21:10:54 <DJNekkid> TGV duplex have 99k running cost 21:11:06 <DJNekkid> download the 2cc-2.0.xls :) 21:11:20 <Ammler> PeterT: the bnc is for members only 21:11:21 <Frankr> can the chimera be multiple 21:11:33 <PeterT> Ammler: Members? 21:11:35 <Frankr> or is it set to be one 21:11:45 <Ammler> or #openttdcoop(.devzone) 21:11:47 <PeterT> members of #openttdcoop, or just people who have registered? 21:11:47 <DJNekkid> can be as many as you like 21:11:48 <Ammler> of 21:12:07 <PeterT> how do you become a member? 21:12:13 <Frankr> ooooo, i'm a member then 21:12:35 <Ammler> Frankr: hmm, kinda :-P 21:12:38 <PeterT> How? 21:12:42 <PeterT> I've registerd 21:12:45 <PeterT> *registered 21:12:53 <Frankr> :) ammler 21:13:31 <Frankr> What is the pax of the Chimera Djnekkid 21:14:15 * Frankr really shouldn't be asking all these questions at DJNekkid, is just to lazy to decode the grf, :) 21:14:55 <DJNekkid> get the excel sheet :) 21:15:06 <Frankr> on devzone 21:15:08 <DJNekkid> 400 pax :) 21:15:15 <DJNekkid> or 300 mail 21:15:17 <DJNekkid> or 200 valu 21:16:13 <Ammler> PeterT: registering isn't enough... 21:16:19 <PeterT> what do you do? 21:16:39 <DJNekkid> ICE3 have 12800 running cost per part 21:16:39 <Ammler> we will ask people, if they want a account 21:16:44 <Ammler> no need ask for it... 21:17:50 <Frankr> DJ says 40 in your table 21:18:15 <DJNekkid> look in "wag capacity" 21:18:28 <Frankr> lol, ah yes 21:19:02 * Frankr is starting to think WAS prices will fit perfectly into 2cc 21:21:02 <Frankr> model life 255 mean it never goes 21:21:14 <Frankr> FF 21:21:49 <DJNekkid> correct 21:22:01 <DJNekkid> i've not looked at WAS prices 21:22:13 <DJNekkid> but if you have set them reasonably high, i think they will :) 21:22:17 <DJNekkid> as that is what i've done 21:22:24 <Frankr> well the grf is incorrect atm 21:22:37 <Frankr> i have made an algorithm based on real life prices 21:23:17 <DJNekkid> not bad... 21:23:28 <DJNekkid> but what do you do with planes from ... 1955?:) 21:23:39 <DJNekkid> calculate the inflation? 21:23:57 <Frankr> yh that is going to have to be done 21:24:11 <Frankr> there are numerous inflation calculators online 21:24:30 <Frankr> so i don't think that will be too much of an issue 21:24:54 <Frankr> DJ how did you get around the inflation in the actual game or have you just left it 21:25:09 <DJNekkid> well ... ingame inflation dont really matter 21:25:29 <Frankr> i was planning on just leaving it as well 21:25:44 <Frankr> i don't know many people who play with it on 21:25:54 <DJNekkid> as we have to pre-adjust for it either way 21:26:43 <DJNekkid> Ammler: congratulations on your gold, and our bronze :) 21:26:49 <DJNekkid> on ski-x 21:27:05 <Frankr> :) 21:27:48 <Ammler> yeah, nice day again 21:30:54 <DJNekkid> but no gold for us :( 21:32:11 <DJNekkid> but, belive it or not, we are number2 on the medal-list just after USA ... 21:32:18 <DJNekkid> but the germans will take us now 21:32:19 <Ammler> well 21:32:32 <DJNekkid> but that page im looking at might not be updated with ski-X 21:32:35 <Ammler> we were on top there at start :-P 21:32:50 <Frankr> we never were 21:33:08 <Ammler> well, we were also sure, it isn't for long ;-) 21:33:10 <DJNekkid> you got a gold Frankr :) 21:33:26 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 21:33:31 <Frankr> did we 21:33:38 <DJNekkid> yup 21:33:42 <DJNekkid> Skeleton :9 21:33:49 <Frankr> well i missed that one 21:33:57 <Frankr> skeleton, lol 21:33:59 <Ammler> we OTed andy away 21:34:07 <DJNekkid> i.e. "head first in 130kmh down some icerink" 21:34:38 <Frankr> the bobsliegh track on a t-tray 21:34:50 <Frankr> or is that the luge 21:34:52 <DJNekkid> yup :) something like that 21:34:59 <Frankr> :) 21:35:47 <Frankr> well you've brightened my dad DJ 21:36:00 <Frankr> dad, lol, 8day 21:36:08 <Frankr> day* 21:37:01 *** PeterT|BNC has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:38:21 <DJNekkid> i did? 21:39:14 <Frankr> you have 21:39:23 <Frankr> and you helped me out alot 21:39:33 <DJNekkid> not sure what i did, but glad to help :) 21:41:20 <Frankr> :) 21:46:23 *** PeterT has quit IRC 21:48:04 <Ammler> DJNekkid: speaking about medaille ranking, we are #2 21:48:22 <Ammler> or #3 21:51:46 <DJNekkid> there are now 3 or 4 countries with 5 golds 21:51:59 <DJNekkid> 3... 21:52:04 <DJNekkid> norway, germany and you 21:52:17 <DJNekkid> but germany have more silvers then us, and we more then you 21:52:54 <Frankr> :) 21:52:57 *** PeterT|BNC is now known as PeterT 21:54:31 <Ammler> indeed #4 then 21:54:36 <Ammler> awesome anyway 21:55:01 <DJNekkid> yup 21:55:09 <Frankr> http://www.vancouver2010.com/olympic-medals/ 21:55:10 <Webster> Title: Olympic Medals: Gold, Silver, Bronze : Vancouver 2010 Winter Olympics (at www.vancouver2010.com) 21:55:11 <Ammler> for you, it is kinda usual 21:55:19 <Ammler> for us it is unbelievable :-P 21:55:20 <Frankr> well that hasn't been updated recently 21:55:34 <Ammler> vancouver2010 does sort wrongly 21:55:41 <DJNekkid> well, we are WAY better now then 2006 21:55:41 <Ammler> .com 21:55:46 <DJNekkid> that SUCKED! 21:55:50 <DJNekkid> 2 golds in 2006 21:56:02 <Frankr> yh i just noticed ammler 21:56:13 <Frankr> sorted by number of medals 21:56:26 <Ammler> Frankr: but you can click on top to sort 21:56:34 <Frankr> yh i have 21:56:38 <Frankr> :) 21:57:00 <DJNekkid> but 2002 were a GREAT norwegian year... 21:57:10 <DJNekkid> we topped the statistic,and had 13 gold iirc 21:57:45 <Ammler> oh, Frei was bad :-( 21:58:09 <DJNekkid> 24 or something 21:58:17 <DJNekkid> but bjørndalen became 30th i think 21:58:22 <DJNekkid> i.e. last 21:58:26 <Ammler> oh? 21:58:50 <DJNekkid> well, 27 21:58:53 <Ammler> wasn't he expected to be #1? 21:58:59 <DJNekkid> yup 21:59:02 <DJNekkid> he had 7 misses 21:59:10 <Ammler> wow 21:59:33 <DJNekkid> 2:10 behind the first guy with 0 22:00:04 <DJNekkid> and i think they count roughly 25sec on a penalty lap 22:00:18 <DJNekkid> so, with 0 misses would be had been 55 sec in front of him 22:02:13 <Frankr> unlucky 22:02:36 <Frankr> 7 misses does sound alot though 22:03:30 <DJNekkid> atleast for him 22:03:41 <DJNekkid> he is supposed to be one of the top shooters... 22:03:46 <DJNekkid> and THE top runner 22:04:26 <DJNekkid> but i guess one can call it a bad day at work 22:05:02 <DJNekkid> yeeey! 22:05:05 <DJNekkid> pm from Neko! 22:05:37 <PeterT> Oh, what fun :-P 22:07:12 <DJNekkid> asked if i wanted to code his QR tilt triains 22:10:21 <PeterT> You should be flattered that he thinks you are so proffessional 22:11:55 <DJNekkid> hehe... 22:12:05 <DJNekkid> its probably because i coded the first train... 22:12:16 <DJNekkid> with a VERY nice commented code etc 22:12:33 <DJNekkid> but the guy is just not willing to try and learn 22:55:31 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:00:57 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 23:09:36 *** Frankr has quit IRC