Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 21st February 2010:
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10:47:12  <Hirundo> Ammler: Do you know what went wrong with the IS patching?
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11:21:30  <Rubidium> planetmaker: the readme of omsx is a bit of a mess :(
11:21:50  <Rubidium> mentioning of GRF_TITLE/OpenGFX
11:22:24  <planetmaker> he... Thanks. I shall fix that when I have it in a proper repo.
11:23:01  <planetmaker> I guess I should have spent 1 minute more on that zip ;-)
11:23:06  <Rubidium> openmsx links to .../omso (shouldn't that be /omsx ?
11:24:16  <planetmaker> uh? It is omso in there?!
11:24:31  <Rubidium> default =
11:24:49  <planetmaker> oh, there. Yes, that's wrong, too
11:24:57  <planetmaker> actually it will be openmsx
11:25:32  <Rubidium> if you give a 'final' description I can wrap it into the base translations topic; you'll only have to ask the 'current' translators to translate that string too (pm or so?)
11:25:56  <planetmaker> That'd be a nice idea :-)
11:25:59  <planetmaker> Let me look...
11:26:59  <Rubidium> personally I'd put the .obm in the directory with the midis
11:28:10  <planetmaker> well. Yes. But it is not supported to put it into sub-dirs of gm
11:28:23  <planetmaker> I tried and it didn't work for me
11:28:36  <planetmaker> And it would make sense IMO to separate different music sets
11:29:27  <planetmaker> Hm... would the same default text as OpenGFX make sense? "Please download from the official source"?
11:29:37  <planetmaker> That's generic enough to be always right
11:30:09  <Rubidium> ah, those error messages for missing files. Don't bother too much about that right now I'd say
11:30:45  <Rubidium> I'll look into subdirectory support for the midis; hmm, does it actually work with tars?
11:30:57  <Rubidium> something to check later
11:31:05  <planetmaker> nope. Tars don't work at all
11:31:20  <planetmaker> That was the first thing I tried
11:31:56  <Rubidium> so, something to fix :)
11:32:03  <planetmaker> :-)
11:32:43  <planetmaker> so, would you recommend to use an explicit link in the "default" message?
11:36:38  <planetmaker> Ah, I think OpenGFX's default message is fine in the OpenMSX case, too
11:37:05  <planetmaker> I'll adopt it accordingly and all is fine.
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12:10:22  <Rubidium> planetmaker: I'll be gone in something like 15 minutes, so... if I need to add it I need to know it in that time, or it'll be changed tomorrow
12:11:12  <planetmaker> Rubidium: Well... do you think that an URL is good in that place?
12:11:23  <planetmaker> Or like OpenGFX?
12:11:46  <planetmaker> I rarely encounter that string myself...
12:17:19  <planetmaker> ^ Ammler any opinion
12:17:30  <planetmaker> for the default= string in base sets?
12:20:41  <planetmaker> Rubidium: "Please re-download from BaNaNas or"
12:22:10  <Rubidium> as I said, don't worry about that 'default' string too much; it isn't translatable right now, and won't be in 1.0; maybe it'll be translateable in 1.1
12:25:08  <planetmaker> "no worry" then translates into "re-use either OpenGFX or OpenSFX string" ;-)
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12:43:23  <Frankr> hello people
12:44:19  <Frankr> dj
12:44:54  <Frankr> when you said rl fuel (you meant real life there correct?)
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13:03:55  <planetmaker> usually rl = real life
13:04:00  <planetmaker> so it'd be a safe assumption
13:14:49  <Frankr> thanks pm
13:37:59  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 15056: (svn r19182) -Codechange: Use CommandCost return value i... <> || Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 15055: (svn r19181) -Change: rework the order of the data in th... <> || Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 15054: (svn r19180) -Add/Fix: (partial) support for genders for... <> || Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 15053: (svn r19179) -Codechange: make strgen do some checking o... <> || Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 15052: (svn r19178) -Fix: [MSVC] regenerate lang files on strge... <> || Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 15051: (svn r19177) -Codechange: introduce INT8_MIN/MAX and UIN... <> || Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 15050: (svn r19176) -Fix [FS#3632] (r17859): when selecting "bu... <> || Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 15049: (svn r19174) -Fix: Buoys are no Stations, only BaseStati... <> || Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 15048: (svn r19173) -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: <> || Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 15047: (svn r19172) -Codechange: Move road checks from CmdBuild... <> || Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 15046: (svn r19171) -Codechange: Split CheckFlatLandBelow into ... <> || Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 15045: (svn r19170) -Codechange: Make CheckFlatLandBelow use Ti... <> || Infrastructure Sharing - Revision 15044: (svn r19169) -Codechange: Move buildable tile checks out... <>
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16:42:59  <Frankr> dj
16:44:15  <Frankr> does anyone know if you can have a one off fee after the plane has been bought through the year?
16:44:50  <Frankr> like a purchase cost such as a 0B on a specific sprite
16:45:01  <Frankr> using callback 36
16:49:37  <Frankr> The idea is to have a landing fee relating to a specific sprite to make planes more balanced.
16:50:42  <PeterT> You should probably highlight him
16:50:59  <Frankr> i did
16:51:10  <Frankr> i typed dj
16:51:13  <PeterT> You wrote 'dj'
16:51:16  <PeterT> highlighting would be
16:51:19  <PeterT> DJNekkid: ^
16:51:27  <Frankr> which is a highlight of his
16:53:59  <DJNekkid> im back
16:54:12  <DJNekkid> or ... im here :)
16:54:31  <PeterT> ...because I highlighted you
16:55:26  <DJNekkid> hmm ...
16:55:50  <DJNekkid> im not exactly sure what you ask?
16:56:47  <Frankr> Right is it possible to put a one off cost attributed to a specific graphic
16:57:25  <DJNekkid> running costs yes
16:57:33  <Frankr> i.e. once this graphic is shown a purchase cost (kind of cost) is paid
16:58:12  <DJNekkid> that isnt possible to my knowledge
16:58:41  <DJNekkid> my thought were to add a rise in the running costs for a short period
16:59:07  <Frankr> ok
16:59:28  <Frankr> i suppose
16:59:42  <Frankr> we could calculate a specific cost though, correct?
16:59:51  <DJNekkid> sure can
17:00:01  <DJNekkid> but i think you should put the planes in classes...
17:00:03  <DJNekkid> from 1 to 5
17:00:14  <DJNekkid> large ones in class 5, small ones in 1
17:00:36  <Frankr> i.e. i mean a running cost which is calculated to be 70k over the landing distance or something, or are airports to variable
17:00:57  <Frankr> you mean action 3 them?
17:01:29  <DJNekkid> no
17:02:02  <DJNekkid> classes based on weight of the plane
17:02:14  <DJNekkid> (Mtow)
17:02:41  <Frankr> and do what with it though
17:02:46  <DJNekkid> well
17:02:54  <DJNekkid> the different classes have different landing fees
17:04:25  <Frankr> rather than everyplane having different landing fees
17:04:33  <DJNekkid> yes
17:04:40  <Frankr> i suppose it will make it easier on my part
17:05:27  <Frankr> and then substitute that in the xx 00 15 15  running cost
17:07:07  <Frankr> how would i go about putting the planes in classes then dj, (code wise)
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17:14:02  <DJNekkid> put them in a list in notepad or someting?
17:14:40  <Frankr> ah i thought you meant in the actual code
17:16:39  <Frankr> Dj do you by happen to any chance have any idea if the sprites are shown for the same amount of time on all airports
17:17:25  <DJNekkid> it depends on the landing speed of the aircraft i guess?
17:17:59  <Frankr> but for the same aircraft would it be the same on all do you know, i guessing not
17:18:13  <Frankr> well i would be happily suprised, :)
17:24:28  <Frankr> Dj thanks for the help but we have calculated it to impossible
17:27:23  <Frankr> we would have to set the running cost to 25mill for us to have a 70k landing fee which is just a bit crazy (because of there only being one tick on the landing sprite)
17:27:30  <Frankr> :)
17:44:41  <DJNekkid> but, isnt 70k quite steep?
17:44:58  <DJNekkid> but i see your point :)
17:46:49  <Frankr> well we hadn't decided yet but we wanted at around the £30k landing fee
17:47:53  <Frankr> but it is also to variable
17:48:18  <Frankr> if you have plane speed on 1/4 thn your costs will be alot higher than 1/1
17:57:47  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Autopilot - Bug #747: IRC name issue <" target="_blank">> || Autopilot - Bug #747 (New): IRC name issue <>
17:59:21  <DJNekkid> but that can be discovered, and its set properly
18:06:06  <Frankr> really
18:06:17  <Frankr> i didn't know that
18:13:05  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Autopilot - Bug #747 (Confirmed): IRC name issue <" target="_blank">> || Nutracks - Revision 8: Fix: 3rd rail and 3rd rail + catenary had opposite building costs <> || Autopilot - Bug #747 (Confirmed): IRC name issue <>
18:13:56  <Ammler> DJNekkid: add username to your local hg config
18:14:24  <Ammler> your local global config
18:15:05  <Ammler> helps a bit
18:16:22  <DJNekkid> oh ... ofcourse, i might not have set that ...
18:16:44  <Ammler> DJNekkid: that is why I propose to edit your global conf
18:16:54  <DJNekkid> where would i find that? :P
18:16:55  <Ammler> so you don't have to care about every single repo
18:17:08  <Ammler> ~/.hgrc
18:17:52  <DJNekkid> no .hgrc in my home-dir...
18:17:58  <Ammler> windows?
18:18:03  <DJNekkid> linux
18:18:08  <Ammler> then create it
18:18:34  <DJNekkid> lol, oki :)
18:19:02  <Ammler> [ui]
18:19:04  <Ammler> username = Ammler <>
18:20:22  <DJNekkid> that might be better :)
18:20:36  <Ammler> my whole file:
18:21:12  <Ammler> the global ignore file has mostly OS specific things
18:21:45  <Ammler> things you like to ignore but doen't belong to the repo itslef
18:22:37  <DJNekkid> i cant access pastebin :)
18:23:26  <Ammler> why that?
18:28:25  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Nutracks - Revision 9: Fix: 3rd + catenary had wrong costfactor <>
18:34:11  <DJNekkid> i dont know :=
18:34:12  <DJNekkid> :)
18:34:44  <DJNekkid> hmm, the browser seems f*cked
18:35:35  <Ammler> you are on the server with vlc?
18:35:40  <Ammler> vnc I meant
18:36:07  <Ammler> oh btw. I am sorry about your lost yesterday.
18:36:18  <Ammler> we both have :-(
18:37:18  <Ammler> it happens, as you quite, if you would have been stayed around...
18:37:37  <Ammler> -e
18:42:53  <DJNekkid> yes ... via VNC :)
18:57:08  <PeterT> does autopilot/ap+ enable startup commands/
18:57:14  <PeterT> like identifying to a supybot?
19:02:16  <Ammler> PeterT: please check the custom commands....
19:02:25  <Ammler> (again)
19:02:57  <PeterT> Ok
19:05:36  <DJNekkid> got anyone in the 15km commonstart Ammler ?
19:06:05  <Ammler> commonstart?
19:06:28  <Ammler> ah Bulkstart?
19:06:33  <DJNekkid> probably .)
19:06:38  <DJNekkid> biathlon
19:06:49  <Ammler> dunno
19:07:25  <DJNekkid> no swizz flags as far as i could see
19:07:53  <Ammler> currently there is only curling on tv
19:09:19  <Frankr> who is playing Ammler?
19:11:06  <DJNekkid> Frankr: dont mind dale
19:11:14  <Frankr> lol
19:11:17  <DJNekkid> he probably just confuses you
19:11:52  <Frankr> lol
19:14:05  <DJNekkid> Ammler: there is a "T. Frei" with a swiz flag on him :)
19:16:14  <Ammler> oh Frei might be good
19:16:20  <Ammler> around 15. at the end?
19:16:59  <DJNekkid> there have been two shootings now...
19:35:17  <DJNekkid> yey!
19:35:38  <DJNekkid> the pizza we ordered took more then 1hr to deliver, so we will pay 1/2 price :)
19:35:48  <Frankr> nice
19:35:54  <Frankr> i'm ordering later
19:35:55  <Frankr> lol
19:36:29  <Frankr> i hope mine is half price, :)
19:36:31  <DJNekkid> original price: 375kr, now: 375/2's :)
19:37:31  <DJNekkid> btw: for some fun TTD'ing; get the "early houses" that were modded...
19:37:51  <Frankr> how have they been modded
19:37:52  <DJNekkid> so it gets 1/2 pax
19:38:01  <DJNekkid> then get cargodist
19:38:03  <DJNekkid> nutracks
19:38:03  <Frankr> ah mega has that
19:38:04  <DJNekkid> and 2cc set
19:38:13  <Frankr> mega has top two
19:38:26  <DJNekkid> mega?
19:38:43  <Frankr> Clanmega
19:38:54  <Frankr> #openttdmegaclan
19:39:02  <DJNekkid> never been there
19:39:06  <Frankr> :)
19:39:09  <DJNekkid> im just doing some single player testing
19:39:21  <PeterT> DJNekkid: so go there :-{
19:39:47  <Frankr> we have a server with both IS CD and early houses and old 2cc i think
19:40:01  <Frankr> i don't think it is very early on any more though
19:41:16  <DJNekkid> but the "early houses" dont half it after 1900 or something :)
19:46:37  <DJNekkid> hmm, we need more DMU's :)
19:55:23  <Frankr> :)
20:16:09  <DJNekkid> mmm! 1/2 price pizza :)
20:16:12  <DJNekkid> 162,50kr :)
20:16:25  <DJNekkid> (18euro or somethign)
20:16:39  <DJNekkid> including 1,5l cola and garlic/sour cream dressing
20:16:57  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 585: Change: cargo WOOD now defined as 'piece goods' for... <>
20:17:12  <DJNekkid> and not only that, im in 1978 and im starting to earn _quite_ good moneys :)
20:18:28  <Frankr> :)
20:18:32  <Frankr> nice dj
20:18:41  <Frankr> all your hard work paying off
20:18:54  <DJNekkid> yea...
20:18:58  <DJNekkid> im up to half a mill now
20:19:08  <DJNekkid> but i need a couple of quite long sections of 230kmh lines...
20:19:19  <DJNekkid> probably need to re-borrow that other half mill :)
20:19:50  <DJNekkid> made a DB103 with doubledecker between my two largest cities
20:20:00  <Frankr> :)
20:20:55  <DJNekkid> and three cities now needs a metro ring
20:24:18  <DJNekkid> bug! :D
20:24:55  <Frankr> bug?
20:25:23  <DJNekkid> in 2cc set :)
20:26:02  <Frankr> what is it
20:26:48  <DJNekkid> metrowagon didnt have a nutrack-sensor
20:27:16  <Frankr> how is the nutrack?
20:27:31  <planetmaker> expensive
20:27:37  <DJNekkid> im quite biased, but its awsome :P
20:27:42  <DJNekkid> and yes, expensive :)
20:27:50  <Frankr> lol
20:27:58  <Frankr> i like expensive
20:27:58  <planetmaker> and hello friends :-)
20:28:02  <Frankr> hello pm
20:28:12  <Frankr> which is why WAS is so expensive
20:28:27  <Frankr> well not yet but will be by next public
20:28:41  <DJNekkid> good things!
20:29:08  <DJNekkid> elrails without any speedlimit cost 10k/tile
20:29:17  <DJNekkid> 230kmh speedlimit is 3000/tile
20:29:26  <DJNekkid> 160kmh is 1000/tile
20:29:33  <Frankr> 10k a tile wow
20:29:41  <Frankr> still will be cheaper by air
20:29:43  <Frankr> :)
20:29:54  <DJNekkid> maglev will be 25000/tile :)
20:30:00  <DJNekkid> or ... 25500 :)
20:30:10  <Frankr> wow, don't make a mistake
20:30:17  <Frankr> :p
20:30:29  <DJNekkid> but by the time you can build the 2cc chimaera, you _probably_ have LOTS of cash anyway
20:30:36  <DJNekkid> and its quite nice to have something to spend it on
20:31:00  <Frankr> i think i'll be building in normal
20:31:05  <Frankr> and then track converting
20:31:28  <DJNekkid> still gonna cost you
20:31:55  <Frankr> yh but mistakes will be less costly
20:32:06  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: 2cc train set - Revision 447: Fix: The Metro-wagon didnt have a check to spot NuTracks, and thus ... <>
20:32:19  <Frankr> i try my hardest to make planes balanced and you do that, lol :)
20:32:19  <DJNekkid> hehe, true enough
20:32:41  <DJNekkid> balance them to to 2cc set :)
20:33:08  <Frankr> more than £3.3mill for an A380
20:33:26  <DJNekkid> the Chimaera cost 1mill or something like that
20:33:35  <Frankr> euros or £
20:33:40  <DJNekkid> £
20:33:44  <DJNekkid> all my figures are £
20:34:28  <Frankr> nice to know, :)
20:34:54  <Frankr> There will be a harder price for people if they want
20:35:12  <Frankr> but normal i think is fair at £3.3mill
20:35:36  <DJNekkid> the 2cc set do have a cost-parameter as well
20:35:57  <DJNekkid> can double prices
20:36:01  <DJNekkid> and half them 8 times
20:36:02  <DJNekkid> or 7
20:36:42  <Frankr> you can't do that
20:36:55  <DJNekkid> on the 2cc set you can
20:38:16  <Frankr> :)
20:38:27  <Frankr> i don't see it necessary for WAS
20:38:35  <Frankr> i don't want planes really cheap
20:38:51  <Frankr> the lowest is for Cargodest people only
20:39:01  <Frankr> really
20:39:02  <DJNekkid> not even for the folks who wanna play sandbox?
20:39:48  <Frankr> they can the parameter to the lowest which is 2 normal price
20:40:14  <DJNekkid> ya
20:40:18  <Frankr> or leave it at 8*normal price as default
20:40:42  <Frankr> or put it to 16*normal price
20:41:04  <Frankr> they will most likely be the options for them
20:43:11  <Frankr> i think that is enough choice, if people ask then i may introduce lower but prices will be alot more than the alpha
20:47:09  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 586: Change: cargo WDPR now defined as 'bulk, piece good... <>
20:48:13  <Frankr> lol, Djnekkid
20:48:58  <Frankr> for impossible mode, you can buy an A380 for 0mill how does that sound
20:49:24  <DJNekkid> overkill :)
20:49:36  <Frankr> real life price
20:49:38  <DJNekkid> 3,3mill is harsh enough
20:49:49  <Frankr> lol
20:50:09  <DJNekkid> quite long ROI on 3.3mill either way
20:50:20  <Frankr> 3.3mill is fair with the income it gets
20:51:42  <Frankr> not as much as a chimera
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20:54:18  <DJNekkid> but a chimaera require quite large ammounts of infrastructure as well
20:54:41  <Frankr> exactly
20:54:50  <Frankr> so even longer ROI
20:55:36  <DJNekkid> yup... :)
20:55:43  <Frankr> :)
20:55:56  <DJNekkid> but, by 2010 and 2035 one usualy have gazillions :)
20:56:03  <Frankr> what are the running costs on your chimera
20:56:13  <Frankr> well A380 is in 2007
20:56:32  <planetmaker> [21:56]	<Frankr>	well A380 is in 2007 <-- ayn't that too early?
20:56:37  <planetmaker> Rather like 2009 or so?
20:56:43  <Frankr> nope
20:56:51  <Frankr> first one was delivered in 2007
20:57:04  <planetmaker> jeez. Seems I'm getting old then...
20:57:29  <Frankr> lol
20:57:36  <Frankr> they have made about 30 so far
20:58:30  <Frankr> it doesn't seem that long ago, pm :)
20:58:35  <DJNekkid> planetmaker: did you se my thought about running costs on "slow" tracks?
20:58:44  <planetmaker> possibly not
20:58:58  <Frankr> cheaper?
20:58:59  <planetmaker> I'm in a somewhat un-attentive phase :-P
20:59:09  <Frankr> ;)
20:59:16  <DJNekkid> in the running cost procedure, add in a lower cost if it runs on slower track
20:59:18  <planetmaker> where, DJNekkid ?
20:59:30  <DJNekkid> it were here on irc yesterday
20:59:35  <DJNekkid> or the day before
21:00:10  <planetmaker> he...
21:00:40  <Frankr> :), note to self planetmaker may need reminding about things
21:00:50  <planetmaker> sure ;-)
21:00:53  <DJNekkid> point was
21:01:13  <DJNekkid> if an engine capable of running 200kmh runs on 120kmh track, it probably dont use all its power
21:01:29  <DJNekkid> thus, it should be cheaper to run
21:01:38  <Frankr> yh
21:01:41  <planetmaker> makes sense
21:01:42  <DJNekkid> but otoh
21:01:54  <DJNekkid> this dont encourge the usage of the slower engines on slower sidelins
21:01:59  <DJNekkid> *lines
21:02:11  <DJNekkid> as one _might_ upgrade it
21:02:13  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 587: Change: cargo label for FRUT is now FRVG <>
21:02:24  <Frankr> true, and get the benefits
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21:02:50  <Frankr> faster acceleration and what not
21:02:57  <DJNekkid> yes...:)
21:03:10  <DJNekkid> but that faster acceleration will be there either way
21:03:14  <DJNekkid> but it will cost more...
21:03:22  <DJNekkid> so its a double edge sword...
21:03:57  <Ammler> DJNekkid: thanks for bronze :-)
21:04:01  <Frankr> yh
21:04:10  <DJNekkid> on what?
21:04:16  <Ammler> ski combi
21:04:22  <DJNekkid> is that finished?
21:04:29  <Ammler> svindal was first after downhill
21:04:37  <DJNekkid> isnt it two slalom runs?
21:04:43  <Ammler> no
21:04:50  <Ammler> :-D
21:04:53  <Ammler> oh, you missed it?
21:05:02  <DJNekkid> yea
21:05:05  <Frankr> looks like
21:05:08  <Frankr> :)
21:05:11  <DJNekkid> i thought the 2nd run were at midnight
21:05:37  <DJNekkid> oh... Aksel went out of bounds
21:05:39  <Ammler> well, svindal is out, but he would also have lost if he finished the race
21:06:17  <DJNekkid> lost over miller?
21:06:30  <DJNekkid> well... its female shooting now :9
21:07:41  <Ammler> ski cross is now :-)
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21:08:13  <Frankr> Dj what are the running costs of you Chimera?
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21:08:28  <DJNekkid> sec
21:08:36  <PeterT> what is the password for
21:08:58  <PeterT> @ Ammler
21:09:17  <DJNekkid> 1,382mill P-cost (costfactor 255) and 406k running cost
21:09:22  <DJNekkid> but im concidering to half that
21:09:24  <DJNekkid> i.e.
21:09:26  <DJNekkid> the running cost
21:09:47  <DJNekkid> because of the high infrastructure cost
21:10:14  <Frankr> that is quite expensive
21:10:23  <Frankr> although we need to refactor ours now
21:10:24  <DJNekkid> 1000kmh :)
21:10:38  <Frankr> so ours will be about 150k ish
21:10:44  <Frankr> oh nice
21:10:54  <DJNekkid> TGV duplex have 99k running cost
21:11:06  <DJNekkid> download the 2cc-2.0.xls :)
21:11:20  <Ammler> PeterT: the bnc is for members only
21:11:21  <Frankr> can the chimera be multiple
21:11:33  <PeterT> Ammler: Members?
21:11:35  <Frankr> or is it set to be one
21:11:45  <Ammler> or #openttdcoop(.devzone)
21:11:47  <PeterT> members of #openttdcoop, or just people who have registered?
21:11:47  <DJNekkid> can be as many as you like
21:11:48  <Ammler> of
21:12:07  <PeterT> how do you become a member?
21:12:13  <Frankr> ooooo, i'm a member then
21:12:35  <Ammler> Frankr: hmm, kinda :-P
21:12:38  <PeterT> How?
21:12:42  <PeterT> I've registerd
21:12:45  <PeterT> *registered
21:12:53  <Frankr> :) ammler
21:13:31  <Frankr> What is the pax of the Chimera Djnekkid
21:14:15  * Frankr really shouldn't be asking all these questions at DJNekkid, is just to lazy to decode the grf, :)
21:14:55  <DJNekkid> get the excel sheet :)
21:15:06  <Frankr> on devzone
21:15:08  <DJNekkid> 400 pax :)
21:15:15  <DJNekkid> or 300 mail
21:15:17  <DJNekkid> or 200 valu
21:16:13  <Ammler> PeterT: registering isn't enough...
21:16:19  <PeterT> what do you do?
21:16:39  <DJNekkid> ICE3 have 12800 running cost per part
21:16:39  <Ammler> we will ask people, if they want a account
21:16:44  <Ammler> no need ask for it...
21:17:50  <Frankr> DJ says 40 in your table
21:18:15  <DJNekkid> look in "wag capacity"
21:18:28  <Frankr> lol, ah yes
21:19:02  * Frankr is starting to think WAS prices will fit perfectly into 2cc
21:21:02  <Frankr> model life 255 mean it never goes
21:21:14  <Frankr> FF
21:21:49  <DJNekkid> correct
21:22:01  <DJNekkid> i've not looked at WAS prices
21:22:13  <DJNekkid> but if you have set them reasonably high, i think they will :)
21:22:17  <DJNekkid> as that is what i've done
21:22:24  <Frankr> well the grf is incorrect atm
21:22:37  <Frankr> i have made an algorithm based on real life prices
21:23:17  <DJNekkid> not bad...
21:23:28  <DJNekkid> but what do you do with planes from ... 1955?:)
21:23:39  <DJNekkid> calculate the inflation?
21:23:57  <Frankr> yh that is going to have to be done
21:24:11  <Frankr> there are numerous inflation calculators online
21:24:30  <Frankr> so i don't think that will be too much of an issue
21:24:54  <Frankr> DJ how did you get around the inflation in the actual game or have you just left it
21:25:09  <DJNekkid> well ... ingame inflation dont really matter
21:25:29  <Frankr> i was planning on just leaving it as well
21:25:44  <Frankr> i don't know many people who play with it on
21:25:54  <DJNekkid> as we have to pre-adjust for it either way
21:26:43  <DJNekkid> Ammler: congratulations on your gold, and our bronze :)
21:26:49  <DJNekkid> on ski-x
21:27:05  <Frankr> :)
21:27:48  <Ammler> yeah, nice day again
21:30:54  <DJNekkid> but no gold for us :(
21:32:11  <DJNekkid> but, belive it or not, we are number2 on the medal-list just after USA ...
21:32:18  <DJNekkid> but the germans will take us now
21:32:19  <Ammler> well
21:32:32  <DJNekkid> but that page im looking at might not be updated with ski-X
21:32:35  <Ammler> we were on top there at start :-P
21:32:50  <Frankr> we never were
21:33:08  <Ammler> well, we were also sure, it isn't for long ;-)
21:33:10  <DJNekkid> you got a gold Frankr :)
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21:33:31  <Frankr> did we
21:33:38  <DJNekkid> yup
21:33:42  <DJNekkid> Skeleton :9
21:33:49  <Frankr> well i missed that one
21:33:57  <Frankr> skeleton, lol
21:33:59  <Ammler> we OTed andy away
21:34:07  <DJNekkid> i.e. "head first in 130kmh down some icerink"
21:34:38  <Frankr> the bobsliegh track on a t-tray
21:34:50  <Frankr> or is that the luge
21:34:52  <DJNekkid> yup :) something like that
21:34:59  <Frankr> :)
21:35:47  <Frankr> well you've brightened my dad DJ
21:36:00  <Frankr> dad, lol, 8day
21:36:08  <Frankr> day*
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21:38:21  <DJNekkid> i did?
21:39:14  <Frankr> you have
21:39:23  <Frankr> and you helped me out alot
21:39:33  <DJNekkid> not sure what i did, but glad to help :)
21:41:20  <Frankr> :)
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21:48:04  <Ammler> DJNekkid: speaking about medaille ranking, we are #2
21:48:22  <Ammler> or #3
21:51:46  <DJNekkid> there are now 3 or 4 countries with 5 golds
21:51:59  <DJNekkid> 3...
21:52:04  <DJNekkid> norway, germany and you
21:52:17  <DJNekkid> but germany have more silvers then us, and we more then you
21:52:54  <Frankr> :)
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21:54:31  <Ammler> indeed #4 then
21:54:36  <Ammler> awesome anyway
21:55:01  <DJNekkid> yup
21:55:09  <Frankr>
21:55:10  <Webster> Title: Olympic Medals: Gold, Silver, Bronze : Vancouver 2010 Winter Olympics (at
21:55:11  <Ammler> for you, it is kinda usual
21:55:19  <Ammler> for us it is unbelievable :-P
21:55:20  <Frankr> well that hasn't been updated recently
21:55:34  <Ammler> vancouver2010 does sort wrongly
21:55:41  <DJNekkid> well, we are WAY better now then 2006
21:55:41  <Ammler> .com
21:55:46  <DJNekkid> that SUCKED!
21:55:50  <DJNekkid> 2 golds in 2006
21:56:02  <Frankr> yh i just noticed ammler
21:56:13  <Frankr> sorted by number of medals
21:56:26  <Ammler> Frankr: but you can click on top to sort
21:56:34  <Frankr> yh i have
21:56:38  <Frankr> :)
21:57:00  <DJNekkid> but 2002 were a GREAT norwegian year...
21:57:10  <DJNekkid> we topped the statistic,and had 13 gold iirc
21:57:45  <Ammler> oh, Frei was bad :-(
21:58:09  <DJNekkid> 24 or something
21:58:17  <DJNekkid> but bjørndalen became 30th i think
21:58:22  <DJNekkid> i.e. last
21:58:26  <Ammler> oh?
21:58:50  <DJNekkid> well, 27
21:58:53  <Ammler> wasn't he expected to be #1?
21:58:59  <DJNekkid> yup
21:59:02  <DJNekkid> he had 7 misses
21:59:10  <Ammler> wow
21:59:33  <DJNekkid> 2:10 behind the first guy with 0
22:00:04  <DJNekkid> and i think they count roughly 25sec on a penalty lap
22:00:18  <DJNekkid> so, with 0 misses would be had been 55 sec in front of him
22:02:13  <Frankr> unlucky
22:02:36  <Frankr> 7 misses does sound alot though
22:03:30  <DJNekkid> atleast for him
22:03:41  <DJNekkid> he is supposed to be one of the top shooters...
22:03:46  <DJNekkid> and THE top runner
22:04:26  <DJNekkid> but i guess one can call it a bad day at work
22:05:02  <DJNekkid> yeeey!
22:05:05  <DJNekkid> pm from Neko!
22:05:37  <PeterT> Oh, what fun :-P
22:07:12  <DJNekkid> asked if i wanted to code his QR tilt triains
22:10:21  <PeterT> You should be flattered that he thinks you are so proffessional
22:11:55  <DJNekkid> hehe...
22:12:05  <DJNekkid> its probably because i coded the first train...
22:12:16  <DJNekkid> with a VERY nice commented code etc
22:12:33  <DJNekkid> but the guy is just not willing to try and learn
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