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00:06:04 *** Webster has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 01:04:08 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 02:31:23 *** Frankr has quit IRC 05:46:53 *** Doorslammer has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:06:57 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:08:30 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:44:36 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 09:44:57 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Document: Usage statistics <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/documents/14> || OpenGFX - usage_statistics.txt <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/584/usage_statistics.txt> 11:06:20 *** ODM has quit IRC 11:51:19 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:25:17 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Code Review #751: Some build system patches from Debian <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/751#change-2095> 12:39:19 <Ammler> planetmaker: what does target docs? 12:41:24 <planetmaker> create the documentation files 12:41:38 <planetmaker> upon special request by matthijs / blathijs 12:42:01 <Ammler> and when do you use that? 12:42:08 <planetmaker> I don't ;-) 12:42:13 <Ammler> and he? 12:42:22 <planetmaker> Dunno. I didn't look at his build scripts 12:42:49 <Ammler> so he doesn't run make all 12:43:47 <planetmaker> I'm sure he does 12:43:49 <Ammler> what you could consider, but not really necessary for rpm 12:43:55 <Ammler> installing the docs... 12:44:11 <planetmaker> well. I asked him for feedback, the ticket is not yet closed 12:44:18 <planetmaker> or is it? 12:44:41 <Ammler> well, he can't close it, that is up2you ;-) 12:44:51 <planetmaker> yes, but he can give feedback 12:44:54 <Ammler> he did 12:45:03 <planetmaker> oh, I didn't see it yet 12:52:58 <planetmaker> he, it's not like the answer was pending there for long :-P 12:53:55 <Ammler> planetmaker: email :-) 12:54:36 <planetmaker> yes. But I deliberately turned off e-mail notification. And it's not like I check it every minute either 12:54:55 <planetmaker> (the notification of my local e-mail programme, not the sending of confirmation by redmine) 12:55:28 <planetmaker> though... I haven't gotten any. 12:55:30 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Code Review #751 (Closed): Some build system patches from Debian <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/751#change-2096> 12:56:59 <Ammler> I set it to "only for things I'm involved or watch" 12:57:35 <Ammler> but true, for you that might still be a lot :-) 12:57:38 <planetmaker> yes, that's what I have 12:57:54 <planetmaker> but I guess it's in graylisting still 12:58:25 <Ammler> :-o 12:58:36 <Ammler> openttdcoop.org isn't on the whitelist? :-P 12:58:58 <Ammler> sucky mail admin 13:01:44 <planetmaker> it's not me :-) 13:02:09 <planetmaker> and it's not like senders cannot be forged 13:02:10 <Ammler> as said, sucky mail admin ;-) 13:02:30 <Ammler> how you do that? 13:02:42 <Ammler> then you need to hack the dns 13:03:13 <planetmaker> you can forge the from easily. I even once sent an e-mail from president@whitehouse.gov ;-) 13:03:18 <planetmaker> just telnet the e-mail server 13:03:29 <Ammler> well, I wouldn't whitelist that 13:03:33 <planetmaker> :-D 13:03:39 <Ammler> I would whitelist the sender host 13:04:49 <Ammler> afaik, greylisting doesn't care about sender address 13:05:26 <Ammler> that is spf, which is another thing, imo. 13:06:27 <planetmaker> yes. But sometimes my e-mail is really really slow in delivering some things. 13:06:38 <planetmaker> at least all *@planetmaker addresses 13:06:45 <planetmaker> my university is much faster 13:08:53 <Ammler> btw. did you ever get a bill for our server? 13:11:29 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Nutracks - Bug #773 (Feedback): renum errors <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/773#change-2098> || NewGRFs - Feature #275 (Rejected): make bananas <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/275#change-2097> 13:24:29 <planetmaker> Nope, I didn't 13:57:57 <Ammler> maybe our complains stopped those from making a bill? 13:58:14 <Ammler> hmm, need to recheck my credi card, but can't remember something 13:58:16 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Nutracks - Bug #773: renum errors <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/773#change-2099> 13:58:37 <Ammler> the nightly compile seems quite uesless... 13:58:55 <Ammler> nobody does care about the errors/warnings... 14:01:14 <planetmaker> not true, Ammler 14:02:16 <Ammler> maybe except you :-P 14:03:11 <Rubidium> Ammler: "care" or "gets notified" 14:04:10 <Rubidium> if it would be spewing "compiled X (Y warnings, Z errors)" after compiles you'll get more peer pressure to actually fix them. 14:05:07 <Rubidium> on the other hand nforenum/grfcodec lagging behind to the spec changes OpenTTD makes makes it hard to support new features and please nforenum 14:05:47 <Ammler> maybe you should fork it? 14:06:10 <planetmaker> that would be... a bad thing wrt the community 14:06:41 <planetmaker> But I'd like to see one or two additional persons who could make commits there 14:11:31 <Ammler> planetmaker: there are maybe 2 active patch devs 14:11:52 <Ammler> dalestan and eis_os but also very rarly 14:12:06 <planetmaker> I didn't say more patch devs need more access there. JGR also works on patch still 14:12:20 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:12:37 <planetmaker> I rather though about Y3xo or so getting commit access to renum / grfcodec ;-) 14:13:07 <Ammler> or the ottd dev team 14:13:35 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Nutracks - Bug #773: renum errors <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/773#change-2100> 14:15:06 <Ammler> it isn't that easy to make a automatically bug report from the compile logs 14:15:14 <DJNekkid> hmm 14:15:37 <Ammler> but it is quite easy to check, if the error log file size is 0 14:16:08 <Ammler> and not to commit new features until it is fixed or confirmed as "unfixeable" 14:17:23 <Ammler> "unfixeable" mostly ends in silence the warning... 14:18:47 <DJNekkid> renum vs Railtypes isnt really usefull atm... 14:19:02 <DJNekkid> it renums properly, but it warns and create bogus errormessages all over 14:19:04 <planetmaker> it doesn't hurt either, but yeah 14:19:48 <Ammler> also with yexo's patch? 14:20:08 <DJNekkid> another patch=? 14:20:15 <DJNekkid> i have default 2309 atm 14:23:02 <Ammler> hmm, the devzone uses 2304M 14:23:40 <Ammler> it wasn't recommend to update :-) 14:23:46 <planetmaker> It should keep that 14:24:03 <planetmaker> the current nforenum trunk is worse than yexo's patches to r2304 14:28:29 <Ammler> also the control chars for some strings could go to nforenum trunk 14:29:48 <planetmaker> control chars? 14:30:15 <Ammler> isn't there a advnaced setting, which allows tracks also if there is no vehicle? 14:30:20 <Ammler> planetmaker: //!!Warning (144): Offset 18: Control character 94 should not be used in this string. 14:31:23 <Ammler> most newgrf disable that 14:31:24 *** Frankr has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:32:42 <Ammler> DJNekkid: IMO, you shouldn't disable any warning as long as you can't disable all 14:32:57 <Ammler> so you can keep track what is supported what isn't 14:33:28 <Ammler> as you get a non-"0" error log anyway 14:33:41 <Ammler> can't* 14:36:28 <Ammler> -can't* :-) 14:36:57 <DJNekkid> Ammler: i didnt disable anything :) 14:37:05 <DJNekkid> thats the works of a maker of planets :D 14:37:13 <DJNekkid> (afaik) 14:37:14 <planetmaker> :-) 14:37:21 <Ammler> bad boy then :-) 14:37:38 <planetmaker> nah, I silenced it when renum was kinda broken for tracks 14:38:04 <Ammler> and warning 44 was so bad, you disabled it twice? :-P 14:38:33 <DJNekkid> sounds reasonable :D 14:39:05 <planetmaker> - * - = + 14:39:09 <planetmaker> :P 14:52:18 <DJNekkid> hmm 15:22:51 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:45:15 <DJNekkid> wtf! 15:49:33 <DJNekkid> now it works ... and; nice! :D 15:52:39 <DJNekkid> planning track gfx inc :D 15:53:06 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 15:54:47 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:59:49 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 16:02:47 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Nutracks - Revision 38: Add: Planing tracks <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nutracks/repository/revisions/38> 16:17:55 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Nutracks - Revision 39: Add: 3rd rail gfx <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nutracks/repository/revisions/39> 16:38:22 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:42:00 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 16:42:47 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:48:37 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 16:55:11 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:00:06 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 17:02:26 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:10:01 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 17:11:00 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:20:23 *** welshdragon is now known as Guest47 17:20:24 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:20:33 *** Guest47 has quit IRC 17:50:36 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Nutracks - Revision 40: Change: Planning gfx is now stapled lines, not full lines <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nutracks/repository/revisions/40> 18:10:54 *** Paul2_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:11:02 <DJNekkid> what a silence! 18:11:37 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 18:11:37 *** Paul2 has quit IRC 18:16:22 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:24:15 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:25:57 <andythenorth> hi 18:33:57 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 18:35:00 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:43:39 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 18:43:50 <DJNekkid> hi andy! :D 18:46:17 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:51:01 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 18:52:46 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Nutracks - Revision 41: Add: Opengfx depot on all railtypes <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nutracks/repository/revisions/41> 19:09:00 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 19:26:41 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:47:31 <DJNekkid> hi andythenorth := 19:47:33 <DJNekkid> :) 20:01:20 *** Doorslammer has quit IRC 20:10:19 * planetmaker breaks the silence for a short moment of disturbance 20:12:44 <DJNekkid> yey! 20:24:51 <Ammler> no! 20:24:53 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: xUSSR Set - Feature #788 (Assigned): ТЭП70 / TEP70 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/788> || xUSSR Set - Feature #787 (Assigned): Локомотивы серии "Ермак" / "Ermak" series. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/787> 20:25:02 <Ammler> hmm 20:25:16 <planetmaker> oh, yes 20:25:37 <planetmaker> oh joy for reading those messages :-P 20:25:53 <Ammler> we should ask them to post english 20:26:12 <planetmaker> well... 20:27:13 <Ammler> I guess, they still are testing :-) 20:27:25 <planetmaker> I'd guess so, too. 20:27:35 <planetmaker> I guess also they have no real clue about hg... :S 20:27:50 <planetmaker> But talking to them is not easy due to language barrier 20:28:56 <DJNekkid> lovely! :D 20:29:22 <DJNekkid> ehm 20:29:33 <planetmaker> Ammler: asking that is not required actually 20:29:44 <DJNekkid> if you look at the ticket it actually seems like they write in english as well 20:29:46 <planetmaker> The Russian text is a 1:1 translation of the English sentence below 20:30:38 <planetmaker> doing it bi-lingual is actually quite ok, I think; might get more attention from the real Russians out there ;-) 20:31:46 <DJNekkid> any other good ideas for the nutracks? 20:32:13 <planetmaker> I like the idea of the dashed planning tracks 20:32:25 <planetmaker> I'm personally not 100% happy with how the 3rd rail looks. 20:32:30 <DJNekkid> me either 20:32:42 <DJNekkid> im personally not happy with anything but the 160kmh tracks tbg 20:32:44 <DJNekkid> tbh 20:32:48 <planetmaker> But I cannot give constructive criticism there... - except maybe one: make the 3rd rail such that it continues on the circle 20:33:03 <planetmaker> i.e. doesn't change sides 20:35:15 <Rubidium> planetmaker: kinda impossible 20:36:04 <Rubidium> that would need 8 orientations or rail but there are only 4 | / - and \ 20:37:28 <DJNekkid> true! 20:37:50 <DJNekkid> i guess i'll just adopt the old metrotracks 20:41:08 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: xUSSR Set - Feature #789 (Assigned): Хоппер-зерновоз модели 11-739 / Grain Hopper 11-739 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/789> 20:42:27 <DJNekkid> @timer 20:42:42 <DJNekkid> @timer on 20:42:46 <DJNekkid> or something 20:43:55 <planetmaker> ah... true that, Rubidium 20:57:11 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: xUSSR Set - Feature #789: Хоппер-зерновоз модели 11-739 / Grain Hopper 11-739 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/789#change-2102> 21:02:53 <DJNekkid> hmm 21:03:13 <DJNekkid> perhaps catenary GUI-stuff for the catenary'ed railtypes... 21:58:53 <planetmaker> gah.... :-( put wrong credits in commit message 21:59:26 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Support #156 (Reopened): Temperate sprites for toyland <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/156#change-2104> || OpenGFX - Revision 323: Change: New graphics for the Ploddyhut Choo Choo (by DanDan) <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/323> 22:03:17 <planetmaker> hehe. rolled back :-P 22:14:30 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Support #156: Temperate sprites for toyland <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/156#change-2105> 22:23:32 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:44:38 <Ammler> He :-) 22:44:40 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenMSX - Revision 21: Feature: Add 'Busy Schedule' and 'The Fast Route' by mimm <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/openmsx/repository/revisions/21> 23:10:37 *** Paul2_ is now known as Paul2