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00:00:16 <Ammler> no issues assigned to me anymore :-P 00:00:23 <Ammler> (on opengfx) 00:00:34 <planetmaker> you want more? ;-) 00:00:38 <Ammler> there isn't 00:00:45 <Ammler> yes, I do :-P 00:00:48 <planetmaker> trains alignments 00:00:58 <Ammler> oh 00:01:08 <Ammler> didn't you already start that case? 00:01:21 <planetmaker> and properly cutting the bubble generators into sprites so that showing them step by step looks nice 00:01:27 <planetmaker> as that's its building stages 00:01:32 <planetmaker> yes, I started with trains 00:03:07 <Ammler> splitting the stadiums was a hell 00:03:15 <planetmaker> he, i believe. 00:03:17 <Ammler> but it helped me fixing a template issue :-) 00:03:22 <planetmaker> :-) 00:03:38 <planetmaker> Born Acorns signals could be put to use. 00:03:39 <Ammler> now, I have some masks, it is quite easy to do similar things 00:03:46 <planetmaker> And DanMacK's toyland RV. 00:04:02 <Ammler> are there any tickets already? 00:04:13 <planetmaker> hm... might even be not 00:04:16 <planetmaker> they're very new 00:04:33 <Ammler> the signals is very complicated 00:04:44 <Ammler> would need o 00:04:57 <planetmaker> Can you check that out? I guess I should now quite quickly go to sleep... Another day starting at 7:30 ahead full of talks and discussions ahead for me. 00:04:59 <Ammler> but I can take a look 00:05:17 <Ammler> ok, yes, thanks and good night 00:05:22 <planetmaker> toyland RV would be nicer :-) And light signals, but we don't have sprites :-) 00:05:33 <planetmaker> i thank you. You're doing great work on OpenGFX :-) 00:05:34 <Ammler> indeed 00:05:36 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Revision 362: Update: replace flags by nfo and pcx directly from svn.openttd.org instea... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/362> 00:06:33 <planetmaker> good night Ammler :-) 00:06:53 <Ammler> well, I just help a bit where I can :-P 00:07:00 <planetmaker> I'm confident by now that the next release can be 0.3 :-) 00:07:46 <Ammler> I still not sure, if we should release 0.2.2 just as a kind of RC 00:07:56 <Ammler> how many do use nightlies? 00:08:39 <Ammler> since the set is complete, there isn't much motivation anymore to download a nightly ;-) 00:08:40 <planetmaker> dunno really. 00:08:53 <Ammler> oh, we have stats 00:08:58 <Rubidium> weren't there problems with the most recent nforenum? 00:09:13 <Rubidium> if so, DaleStan is now awake! You can poke him :) 00:09:26 <planetmaker> btw, Zephyris posted the OpenGFX 'can'. I'm quite sure there were some more sprites. And I like Zuu's way of filling a glass quite a lot - which his version misses. But his can is nicer. Maybe that can be combined 00:10:48 <Ammler> 18 downloads already 00:10:56 <planetmaker> of? Nightly? 00:11:06 <Ammler> yes, last 00:11:15 <Ammler> and the yesterday 54 00:11:35 <planetmaker> cool. Anyway. I'll be a wreck tomorrow, if I keep hanging around ;-) 00:11:38 * planetmaker waves 00:11:50 <Ammler> \o 00:19:20 <Ammler> he 0.2.1 got downloaded 34278 times 00:19:34 <Ammler> and that is without bananas and win installer :-) 00:19:48 <Ammler> and all the distro specific packages 00:20:19 <Ammler> also the source 2346 00:22:04 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 00:59:49 *** Beardie has quit IRC 01:08:40 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: World Airliners Set - Revision 633: Major Changes to Coding Tbale Pax Tick and afew Testing Chang... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/633> 02:25:40 *** PeterT has quit IRC 02:25:51 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:25:30 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:35:50 <andythenorth> is it possible to use CPP and a define to replace something in a text? 09:36:04 <andythenorth> some kind of escape? 09:36:52 <Hirundo> to replace something in a quoted text? 09:37:51 <andythenorth> yes 09:38:07 <andythenorth> "No coal or fuel oil has been delivered for at least 60 months" 09:38:21 <andythenorth> 60 should be replaced by something defined in cpp 09:38:36 <andythenorth> otherwise if it changes...lots of translations to change :o 09:39:03 <Hirundo> you could break out of the quotes, and then it'd work I think 09:39:05 <andythenorth> I already have this defined 09:39:09 <andythenorth> #define NUM_MONTHS_INDUSTRY_CLOSURE_PROTECTED \d60 09:39:34 <andythenorth> If I break out of the quotes OTTD no longer displays the string correctly 09:40:18 <Hirundo> I suggest #define NUM_MONTHS_INDUSTRY_CLOSURE_PROTECTED_TEXT "60" 09:40:48 <Hirundo> And then "No coal... at least " NUM_MONTHS_TEXT " months" 09:40:54 <andythenorth> I'll try it thanks 09:41:06 <Hirundo> Since IIRC grfcodec concatenates strings automagically 09:41:55 <Hirundo> Does the text in question support using the text ref stack? 09:43:54 <andythenorth> Hirundo: it should but my code for that was buggy, life is too short to make it work :) 09:44:08 <andythenorth> Your solution works ;0 09:44:10 <andythenorth> ;) 09:44:16 <Hirundo> Then 9A 03 \w60 7E would allow localized number formatting :) 09:44:24 <Hirundo> I agree that it's kinda over the top, though 10:13:47 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 654: Change: feedback text for Power Station working <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/654> || Redmine - Revision 3437: Removes broken links in wiki syntax help page (#5081). <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3437> || Redmine - Revision 3436: Inlines some code to speed up large ticket history rendering. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3436> || Redmine - Revision 3435: Fixed: Wrong label in issue-journal for subtask-changes (#5090). <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3435> || Redmine - Revision 3434: Upgrade CodeRay to 0.9.2 (#3359). <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3434> 11:44:00 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:48:03 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Feature #839 (New): 4737-4742: Fizzy drink factory <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/839> 12:04:04 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Bug #605: make bundle in a subdir <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/605#change-2257> || OpenGFX - Feature #839: 4737-4742: Fizzy drink factory <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/839#change-2256> || OpenGFX - Feature #698: snowy sprites for oil wells missing <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/698#change-2255> || OpenGFX - Feature #820: Base files splitting <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/820#change-2254> || OpenGFX - Feature #840 (New): Signals: UK Semaphores (drive on left) <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/840> 12:20:11 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Support #665: exporting archive <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/665#change-2258> 12:29:09 <andythenorth> Ammler: do you know much about the make file? 12:29:11 <Ammler> the "official" opengfx readme is a big mess 12:29:35 <Ammler> no idea, where to start cleanup :-) 12:29:49 <Ammler> andythenorth: it very much depends... 12:30:18 <andythenorth> It would be very useful if the output could suppress the 'Loading sprites...' message from grfcodec 12:30:29 <andythenorth> Then I could just see the errors 12:30:43 <andythenorth> would help keep things error free :) 12:30:46 <Ammler> make 1>/dev/null ? 12:31:22 <andythenorth> wouldn't that be rather a *lot* less verbose? 12:31:46 <andythenorth> does grfcodec have any switches for controlling output 12:31:48 <Ammler> or "make 1>log 2>err &" 12:31:57 <Ammler> hmm 12:32:20 <Ammler> make 1>log 2>&1 ; tail -f log 12:33:12 <Ammler> that is like the logs on the compile farm ^ 12:34:18 <Ammler> hmm you need to write it in 2 lines "make 1>log 2>&1 &" and tail -f log 12:34:51 <andythenorth> what does it do exactly? 12:34:53 <Ammler> or you pipe just the errors 12:35:01 <Ammler> make 2>err 12:35:11 <Ammler> and on the end "cat err" 12:35:13 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Feature #839: 4737-4742: Fizzy drink factory <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/839#change-2259> 12:35:49 <Ammler> 1=stdout 2=stderr 12:36:16 <Ammler> 2>&1 = print stderr to same channel then stdout 12:36:18 * andythenorth looks at the make file 12:36:36 <andythenorth> hmm 12:36:45 <andythenorth> maybe we should leave this for another day :) 12:36:52 <Ammler> make 2>err 12:36:53 <Ammler> cat err 12:37:00 <Ammler> seems quite easy 12:37:15 <Ammler> nothing to do with the Makefile, btw. 12:42:45 <Ammler> andythenorth: make | tee 12:51:09 <Ammler> DJNekkid: are you sure, rail types will be backported to 1.0? 13:16:31 <KenjiE20> weren't they in trunk before 1.0 branch? 14:15:18 <DJNekkid> Ammler: yes i am, they were in trunk before 1.0, and according to some dev (dont remember atm) all features/fixes on them will be backported 14:29:27 <V453000> :D the new fizzy drink factory looks funny 14:29:30 <V453000> nice job :) 14:31:45 <Rubidium> DJNekkid: lies! 15:10:17 <DJNekkid> Rubidium: really? 15:24:08 *** PeterT is now known as Guest1320 15:24:27 *** Guest1320 is now known as PeterT 15:41:16 <DJNekkid> @calc 5000/13 15:41:16 <Webster> DJNekkid: 384.615384615 15:43:31 <Rubidium> DJNekkid: once 1.1 is branched backporting stuff to 1.0 isn't that useful anymore 15:54:21 <DJNekkid> is 1.1 branched? 15:55:05 <PeterT> No 15:55:14 <DJNekkid> but ... 15:55:26 <DJNekkid> when 1.0 RCx turns to 1.0 stable... 15:55:39 <DJNekkid> then the backported stuff already will be in i assume! 16:27:10 <DJNekkid> ahh! this years hottest taco! 16:38:58 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:46:08 *** DJNekkid has quit IRC 16:51:54 *** DJNekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:58:50 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:21:18 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 17:21:35 <DJNekkid> yey, torrent finally works on this machine as well 17:23:43 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:40:05 <Ammler> oh majonaise 17:40:27 <Ammler> in openttd-rXX.pcx are also modified graphics :-( 17:40:39 <Rubidium> ofcourse they are :) 17:40:50 <Ammler> not from you :-P 17:41:23 <Ammler> foobar replaced some graphcis directly with sprites... 17:41:57 <Ammler> for example the oneway 17:43:09 <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/entry/sprites/nfo/extra/extra-sloped-tracks.pnfo 17:43:17 <Ammler> but the arrows are white 17:45:34 <Ammler> oh, that is another file, but also a bit silly 17:53:00 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Autopilot - Patch #841 (New): Timed Auto-Kick of "Player"s <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/841> 18:09:04 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Feature #842 (New): Replace openttd-rX.pcx files <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/842> || 2cc train set - Revision 482: Add: Native support for NuTracks <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/482> || Autopilot - Patch #841: Timed Auto-Kick of "Player"s <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/841#change-2260> 18:25:08 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Revision 365: Fix (r362): remove useless comment <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/365> || OpenGFX - Revision 364: Change [#842]: own pcx for oneway graphics <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/364> || OpenGFX - Revision 363: Change [#842]: use catenary pcx from the openttd source <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/363> || Autopilot - Patch #841: Timed Auto-Kick of "Player"s <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/841#change-2261> 18:40:58 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Nutracks - Revision 47: Add: Native support for 2cc trainset (i.e. skips the track enablers <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nutracks/repository/revisions/47> 18:54:57 <Ammler> ups, type in commit message :-) 18:55:17 <Ammler> he, and typo in the note about typo :-P 18:56:54 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Revision 366: Change [#824]: gui uses +- signs from openttd, change the 2 sprites to it... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/366> || OpenGFX - Feature #842: Replace openttd-rX.pcx files <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/842#change-2262> 19:21:22 <DJNekkid> me or you? 19:23:49 <Ammler> me of course 19:24:11 <Ammler> !s/#824/#842/ 19:43:20 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Nutracks - Revision 48: Change: 3rd+catenary and planning tracks are always enabled (via the pesk... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nutracks/repository/revisions/48> 19:45:48 <DJNekkid> Ammler: around? 19:46:27 <Ammler> DJNekkid: don't do that please! 19:46:39 <DJNekkid> oki? 19:46:48 <Ammler> never ask if someone is around 19:47:11 <Ammler> maybe you should replace your irc client then :-) 19:47:29 <DJNekkid> why? 19:47:31 <DJNekkid> hehe 19:47:39 <Ammler> because I see, who is around. 19:48:00 <DJNekkid> how? 19:48:11 <Ammler> I have a user list in every channel 19:48:18 <DJNekkid> i do that as well 19:48:33 <Ammler> those who aren't around, are greyed 19:48:39 <DJNekkid> but if you are like me, i pretty much always forget to set away 19:48:57 <Ammler> everyhone else don't 19:49:07 <Ammler> :-P 19:49:08 <DJNekkid> well, either way 19:49:15 <Ammler> yes, either way 19:49:18 <Ammler> I am around ;-) 19:49:20 <PeterT> DJNekkid: just as the question 19:49:24 <PeterT> *ask 19:49:29 <DJNekkid> wanna pull Nutracks, and see how you like the new texts? 19:49:58 <Ammler> I might even not cloned it :-) 19:50:12 <DJNekkid> shal i send you the grf? 19:50:23 <Ammler> no 19:50:26 <Ammler> well 19:50:29 <DJNekkid> or, take a screenshot :) 19:50:37 <Ammler> is the nightly too old? 19:50:51 <DJNekkid> yes :) 19:52:34 <Ammler> I have pulled and made 19:52:53 <Ammler> r49M 19:53:19 <DJNekkid> now put it in your openttd-datadir, and start openttd after r19437 :) 19:53:42 <Ammler> oh :-) 19:53:47 <Ammler> our ps is older 19:57:17 <DJNekkid> and the conclution is? :) 19:57:24 <DJNekkid> you too can test PeterT :) 19:57:25 <DJNekkid> HEHE 19:57:38 <PeterT> :-) 19:57:39 <DJNekkid> ups,caps 19:58:04 <Ammler> I would prefer lines for the planning tracks 19:59:24 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Nutracks - Revision 50: Fix: Depot were made with feature 12 and not 10, fixed <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nutracks/repository/revisions/50> || OpenGFX - Feature #842: Replace openttd-rX.pcx files <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/842#change-2264> || Nutracks - Revision 49: Change: Redid string texts, as the speed in indicated by OTTD <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nutracks/repository/revisions/49> 19:59:52 <DJNekkid> well, look at the texts 20:00:12 <Ammler> hmm, is me or do the graphics glitch on slopes from south-north? 20:01:08 <DJNekkid> seems so :) 20:03:31 <Ammler> why don't you use the real speeds? 20:03:48 <Ammler> I need trains to check how fast it can drive on the tracks? 20:03:58 <DJNekkid> real speeds? 20:04:11 <DJNekkid> that is behind the entire text 20:04:19 <DJNekkid> if you use r19437 or newer 20:04:48 <Ammler> oh, that is the reason for it 20:04:52 <Ammler> what about the depots? 20:05:00 <DJNekkid> fixed in r50 20:10:15 <DJNekkid> is the other ones out of alignment as well? 20:10:27 <DJNekkid> (the opposite ones) 20:15:04 <Ammler> very cool that is 20:15:08 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Nutracks - Revision 51: Fix: N-S tracks on hills were slightly misaligned, should be fixed now <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nutracks/repository/revisions/51> || OpenGFX - Feature #842: Replace openttd-rX.pcx files <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/842#change-2265> 20:15:18 <DJNekkid> what is? :) 20:15:26 <Ammler> nuTracks 20:15:29 <DJNekkid> hehe : 20:15:31 <DJNekkid> :) 20:15:46 <DJNekkid> what about the texts on the rail-menu? 20:17:32 <Ammler> you should take speeds, which are in both metric and the crappy uk style "round" numbers 20:18:28 <Ammler> 160 seems a "bad" one 20:19:04 <Ammler> very high speed is unlimted? 20:19:08 <DJNekkid> Very low - low - medium - high - very high speed tracks 20:19:18 <Ammler> i* 20:19:32 <DJNekkid> very high is yes, unlimited 20:20:17 <DJNekkid> but, limited to the speed of the engines 20:20:29 <Ammler> of course :-D 20:20:30 <DJNekkid> and i dont really see a need to set a limit... 20:20:45 <Ammler> yes, please don't 20:21:07 <Ammler> "we" need one unlimted track :-) 20:21:11 <Ammler> for our logic things 20:21:20 <DJNekkid> yup 20:21:26 <DJNekkid> the maglev is unlimited as well 20:22:30 <Ammler> lol "Planning Tracks Enabler" 20:22:51 <Ammler> can't start it :-P 20:23:09 <DJNekkid> good! 20:23:19 <Ammler> hmm, the whole thing brings an idea to me 20:23:28 <Ammler> logic rail type 20:23:50 <DJNekkid> there is currently only 1 free slot left 20:24:07 <Ammler> with engines like a big dot or so 20:24:31 <Ammler> 1 free slot left? 20:24:36 <DJNekkid> yup... 20:24:39 <Ammler> for your set? 20:24:43 <DJNekkid> there is max 16 types in a single game 20:24:47 <DJNekkid> i currently have 15 20:24:48 <Ammler> or for another newgrf? 20:25:15 <DJNekkid> that can work :) 20:25:34 <Ammler> another grf can have again 15 types? 20:25:57 <DJNekkid> yes 20:25:59 <DJNekkid> 16 20:26:09 <DJNekkid> x00-x0F 20:26:10 <DJNekkid> :) 20:26:25 <DJNekkid> but, there can only be 16 types in a single game (as i've understood it= 20:26:26 <DJNekkid> ) 20:26:35 <Ammler> what is the idea of nuTracks? 20:26:42 <Ammler> that other sets use it? 20:26:49 <Ammler> or is it for 2cc only? 20:27:27 <DJNekkid> its made with the 2cc-set in mind, but its a standalone grf, so anyone who wants to add support for it, can 20:27:40 <Ammler> if you cross different types, how does it decide which type to use for the cross? 20:27:49 <DJNekkid> i have no idea, ask peter :) 20:27:58 <DJNekkid> probably the last loaded one? 20:28:02 <Ammler> seems like the type already there 20:28:21 <DJNekkid> type?what? 20:28:42 <DJNekkid> Ammler: you can optionally use the logic engine on the planning tracks 20:28:56 <DJNekkid> perhaps that even is a good idea for the "Track Enabler" :) 20:30:15 <Ammler> hmm, you have global alignment glitch 20:30:25 <Ammler> also horizontal tracks 20:31:24 <Ammler> do you have a "testsave"? 20:31:27 <DJNekkid> nope 20:31:34 <Ammler> you should make one :-) 20:33:19 <Ammler> the s-n slope is fine now 20:33:53 <DJNekkid> :) 20:35:34 <Ammler> and you miss roadcrossing 20:35:40 <Ammler> I assume, you know that :-) 20:35:53 <DJNekkid> you are correct :) 20:36:04 <Ammler> and idea with bridges? 20:36:06 <DJNekkid> waiting for thenew gfx to arrive 20:36:11 <Seberoth> Hi Ammler 20:36:20 <Ammler> Sali Seberoth 20:36:24 <DJNekkid> no tunnels either 20:37:47 <Ammler> there is still some work left :-) 20:37:56 <DJNekkid> yea 20:38:36 <Ammler> is it possible to have different bridges per type? 20:38:49 <DJNekkid> no, dont think so 21:26:57 <DJNekkid> Ammler: do youuse ktorrent on linux? 21:29:57 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 21:30:25 <Ammler> rtorrent 21:30:36 <Ammler> it runs on the devzone :-) 21:32:20 <DJNekkid> i use ktorrent atm,and it only wants to download one torrent at a time 21:32:29 <DJNekkid> if i load more then one, they just are "stalled" 21:32:36 <Ammler> one of the main contributors is the ttdpatch josef dexler 21:32:38 <DJNekkid> and the config dont tell it to do that 21:33:28 <Ammler> ktorrent is very nice 21:33:37 <Ammler> I would use that on a KDE system 21:33:54 <DJNekkid> im not sure if it is KDE or gnome tbh... 21:34:04 <DJNekkid> i _think_ its gnome 21:34:23 <Ammler> guess what the k means :-P 21:34:48 <Ammler> gnome is by far the ugliest WM ;-) 21:43:43 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 21:45:07 <planetmaker> [22:43] <Ammler> [21:27:40] if you cross different types, how does it decide which type to use for the cross? <-- you only have ONE rail type per tile 21:45:11 <planetmaker> and good evening 21:45:33 <Ammler> planetmaker: yes, but which one will be used? 21:45:43 <Ammler> looks like the on already there 21:46:26 <planetmaker> yes. Only one. 21:46:32 <planetmaker> you cannot simply over-build 21:46:44 <planetmaker> try maglev and monorail: incompatible rail types 21:47:18 <Ammler> oh, I remeber, you are the insider ;-) 21:48:02 <planetmaker> hu? 21:48:05 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Feature #842: Replace openttd-rX.pcx files <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/842#change-2266> 22:20:42 *** ODM has quit IRC 23:20:00 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: World Airliners Set - Revision 634: Finished Off Pax Tick Calculations on Coding Table <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlineset/repository/revisions/634> 23:35:14 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Feature #839: 4737-4742: Fizzy drink factory <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/839#change-2267>