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01:03:21 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 02:10:00 *** Pe1erT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 02:58:49 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Revision 390: Change [#662]: Move temperate rail wagons to their own pcx file <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/390> || OpenGFX - Revision 389: Add [#662]: Template for 32px wagons, even though they glitch in depot view <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/389> 04:35:01 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Revision 391: Change [#662]: Move arctic rail wagons to their own file <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/391> 06:11:14 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Revision 392: Change [#662]: Move tropical rail wagons to their own file <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/392> 06:16:55 <Rubidium> hmm... is planetmaker in "the east" or the Western US? 06:20:19 <planetmaker> no. He's kinda sleepless 06:20:35 <planetmaker> So he put the time to at least some use ;-) 06:20:51 <Rubidium> ah :) 06:21:34 * Rubidium tries to "jump start" a normal-ish day-night cycle again... hope it works this time 06:21:37 <planetmaker> organization of the (original) base set graphics is kinda stupid 06:22:00 <planetmaker> hehe. I'll try tomorrow. Nearly skipping a night helps usually 06:22:44 <planetmaker> Trying the same thing this night obviously failed majorly, though ;-) 06:22:44 <Rubidium> yeah, that works too 06:24:47 <Rubidium> yeah, though a tip: go back one hour too much 06:25:17 <planetmaker> :-) yup 06:26:54 <planetmaker> hm... all 0.2.2 issues are at least by the list done... 06:30:31 <Rubidium> then I'd say: tweak the blue eyes 06:32:24 <Rubidium> oh, not to forget: sync the opensfx makefile :) 06:33:05 <planetmaker> I looked yesterday: it should be (nearly) up to date? 06:33:24 <planetmaker> except the very latest tweaks which still are unique to OpenGFX 06:34:21 <Rubidium> could be, but the .REV file is named differently, the bashisms are still there and probably a bit more 06:34:42 <Rubidium> having it the same as OpenGFX would help the downstream maintainers a lot 06:35:36 <planetmaker> I'd believe so, yes 07:16:13 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:23:51 <planetmaker> @base 3017 07:23:58 <planetmaker> @base 10 16 3017 07:23:58 <Webster> planetmaker: BC9 07:31:14 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Revision 393: Doc: Indicate which sprite relates to which rail engine <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/393> 07:42:33 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:46:16 <planetmaker> hm, most productive month ever concerning OpenGFX, if commit count is a measure. 08:01:32 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Example NewGRF Project - Revision 71: Feature: Add an md5 file and test target in order to allow ... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/newgrf-makefile/repository/revisions/71> 08:22:16 <andythenorth> planetmaker: any idea how the translations work in FIRS? 08:22:40 <planetmaker> not by heart 08:22:55 <andythenorth> I'm worried they 'sort of' work 08:23:06 <planetmaker> I *think* there's an English file. Other languages just need the same format 08:23:30 <andythenorth> There are some partially translated languages 08:23:54 <andythenorth> I think they will crash the game for people trying to use those languages 08:23:56 <andythenorth> :o 08:24:28 <Hirundo> They will not, english is always used as fallbac 08:24:32 <Hirundo> + 08:24:34 <Hirundo> + k 08:24:43 <planetmaker> ^ 08:24:47 <andythenorth> what about if they try to render a bad string code? 08:25:14 <planetmaker> That might be trouble, if parameters don't match. Dunno really 08:25:21 <andythenorth> ho hum 08:26:54 * andythenorth removed translations 08:32:19 <planetmaker> sensible for an alpha release 08:32:40 <planetmaker> they're 100% out of date anyway 08:32:44 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 734: Change: removed Polish translation temporarily to p... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/734> || OpenSFX - Revision 80: Change: Write the version automatically into the readme <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opensfx/repository/revisions/80> || OpenSFX - Revision 79: Change: [Makefile] Update to makefile r71 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opensfx/repository/revisions/79> 08:33:32 <Yexo> bad string codes in a newgrf string can cause openttd to crash 08:52:20 *** Webster has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:57:42 *** Guest1967 has quit IRC 09:34:11 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #859 (Closed): Check production ratios for secondary indu... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/859#change-2347> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 735: Change: set production ratios for industries using ... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/735> 10:06:16 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 736: Change: hide debug text for secondary industry (unl... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/736> 10:22:16 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 739: Feature: framework to support industry window texts... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/739> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 738: Change: tweak more production ratios to be even num... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/738> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 737: Change: tweak production ratios to be even numbers ... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/737> 10:33:18 *** Doorslammer has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:58:04 *** Pe1erT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:00:38 *** Pe1erT has quit IRC 11:26:25 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #863 (New): Does the general store work? <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/863> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #824: Player-friendly industry window texts <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/824#change-2348> 11:33:02 <Ammler> Hello :-) 11:33:21 <Ammler> if I create a ticket about compile failures 11:33:41 <Ammler> what shall I do the otehr day? Append it to the existing ticket or create a new one? 11:38:25 <planetmaker> Append it to an existing one. 11:38:36 <planetmaker> One ticket for a compile failure is enough, I think 11:38:45 <planetmaker> and a very good day to you, Ammler :-) 11:44:36 <Rubidium> Ammler: compile failures of what? 11:45:15 <Ammler> like http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/airportsplus/nightlies/compile-log/airportsplus-FAILED-compile-error.log 11:45:47 <Ammler> some error fail the compile completely and should be reported as bug 11:45:58 <Rubidium> that's a missing file 11:46:00 <Ammler> what about the compiles which just gave warnings? 11:46:20 <Rubidium> so either get him/her to fix it immediately, otherwise file the report 11:46:46 <Ammler> Rubidium: well, I would just create a generic topic like "compile error" and link to this file 11:46:50 <Rubidium> depends on the warnings, although having the expected warnings documented might be a good thing 11:47:31 <Ammler> redmine has a kind of REST api 11:51:29 <Ammler> hmm, I could cat the file and include as description 12:00:47 *** Doorslammer has quit IRC 12:04:21 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Webster 12:26:36 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:13:27 *** ODM has quit IRC 13:48:22 *** DJ_Nekkid has quit IRC 14:03:24 *** DJ_Nekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:31:31 *** Yexo has quit IRC 14:31:48 *** Yexo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:37:54 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #824 (Closed): Player-friendly industry window texts <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/824#change-2349> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 745: Feature: industry window texts for most secondary i... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/745> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 744: merge <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/744> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 743: merge <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/743> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 741: Change: some test industry window texts <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/741> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 742: Change: Furniture Factory now available 1840 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/742> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 740: Feature: framework to support industry window texts... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/740> 15:53:13 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 746: Change: modified production cb values for General S... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/746> 16:06:43 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:08:34 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #863 (Closed): Does the general store work? <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/863#change-2350" target="_blank">http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/863#change-2350> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #863 (Closed): Does the general store work? <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/863> 16:10:01 <DJ_Nekkid> hi ya all! 16:10:08 <DJ_Nekkid> Any news the last few days? 16:13:10 <Ammler> no news without you :-) 16:15:48 <DJ_Nekkid> hehe! 16:16:02 <DJ_Nekkid> as true as that might be, there still are other projects around :) 16:16:59 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:19:06 <andythenorth> FIRS 0.1 might be done 16:19:15 <andythenorth> anyone want to test it before a Bananas release? 16:20:40 <DJ_Nekkid> why 0.1 and not 1.0 ? 16:20:44 <Ammler> andythenorth: just relase it, doesn't matter, if you need a 0.1.1 bugfix release :-) 16:21:13 <DJ_Nekkid> i mean 16:21:19 <andythenorth> Ammler: I don't want to do a release untested :) That's what nightlies are for 16:21:33 <andythenorth> why is it 0.1? I dunno. It's not 'done' yet. 1.0 is 'done' 16:21:40 <DJ_Nekkid> if its the first "full" version that _Should_ be bugfree... 16:22:15 <Ammler> andythenorth: not really, that is what bugfix releases are for :-) 16:22:23 <andythenorth> :P 16:22:52 <andythenorth> bananas scares me. I think many players will dismiss a broken set and never revisit it 16:22:56 <andythenorth> I would 16:23:04 <DJ_Nekkid> nah! 16:23:24 <DJ_Nekkid> the 2cc set 1.0.1 is quite buggy, nothing BIG, but still... 16:23:30 <DJ_Nekkid> and its the most downloaded trainset on bananas 16:23:35 <Ammler> hmm, you discussed too much with oztransltd :-) 16:23:38 <andythenorth> buggy trainset is not as bad as buggy industry set 16:23:38 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 747: Change: improved some industry window texts <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/747> 16:23:46 <andythenorth> FIRS bugs kill the game really hard 16:23:56 <Ammler> buggy set is not as bad as no set 16:24:21 <DJ_Nekkid> then i got a solution for you 16:24:30 <DJ_Nekkid> Firs x.x-RC1 to bananas 16:24:38 <DJ_Nekkid> and lets make a openttdcoop game with it 16:24:50 <Ammler> that is already there 16:24:51 <andythenorth> probably the best way to test it intensively 16:25:12 <Ammler> r600, afaik 16:25:17 <DJ_Nekkid> i _thought_ my initial 2ccset release were pretty bugfree ... the first openttdcoopgame with it showed MASSIVE bugs 16:25:25 <andythenorth> hmmm 16:25:30 <andythenorth> release planning 16:25:40 <andythenorth> 0.1 will be massively incompatible with any previous release 16:25:52 <Ammler> yes, but 2cc is still one of the better sets, still buggy, but still one of the best 16:26:10 <DJ_Nekkid> then you might want to bump the grfID by 1 andy...? 16:26:35 <Ammler> DJ_Nekkid: then you need to change the name, nobody cares about id 16:26:55 <DJ_Nekkid> Ammler: i know, but old savegames wont be able to load a new version 16:27:13 <Ammler> there was no release yet, so no old version 16:27:21 <DJ_Nekkid> true enough 16:27:28 <DJ_Nekkid> btw, what is FIRS grfID ? 16:27:37 <DJ_Nekkid> "FIR" 01 ? 16:27:42 <Ammler> everyhone who played firs yet, knows it was a dev version 16:27:51 <andythenorth> not bananas users 16:28:01 <Ammler> there was no firs on bananas 16:28:06 <Ammler> is* 16:28:20 <Ammler> well, hidden for play testers 16:28:30 <andythenorth> r600 is on there 16:28:31 <Ammler> check the download count 16:28:38 <Ammler> andythenorth: not publicy 16:29:16 <andythenorth> 1512. How not publicly? 16:29:53 <Ammler> oh sorry 16:30:08 <Ammler> "someone" made it public, that wasn't me :-) 16:30:37 <Ammler> could only blame planetmaker ;-) 16:30:38 <andythenorth> grf ID is F1 25 00 11 16:31:35 <DJ_Nekkid> oki :P 16:31:45 <andythenorth> it might be about to change though.... 16:31:50 <andythenorth> should I change it? 16:32:09 <Ammler> so using version 0.1 does crash openttd if you load save with r600? 16:32:18 <andythenorth> Ammler: possible 16:32:45 <andythenorth> it ruins the game 16:32:49 <andythenorth> I just tested 16:32:53 <andythenorth> doesn't blow up ottd though 16:33:05 <andythenorth> but many industries are broken 16:33:45 <Ammler> yeah, I wouldn't but I was in the feeling firs wasn't public available on bananas 16:34:17 <andythenorth> I'll ask in #openttd 16:38:14 <planetmaker> Well... the last one was me, I take that. But it wasn't the first one 16:38:27 <andythenorth> right, release time? 16:38:35 <planetmaker> I updated it mainly because people started to report and complain bugs in r217a 16:38:45 <planetmaker> andythenorth: if you're fine with it :-) 16:38:45 <andythenorth> I always screw up the release, planetmaker do you want the honour of doing it? :) 16:38:49 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 749: Change: bumped grf id <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/749> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 748: Change: tidied a redundant define in ids.pnfo <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/748> 16:38:59 <planetmaker> he :-) 16:39:25 <andythenorth> everything is pushed 16:39:39 <planetmaker> I just pulled 71(!) changes 16:40:53 <andythenorth> sounds like a lot 16:41:04 <planetmaker> yeah :-) You worked a lot it seems 16:41:25 <planetmaker> is the grfID the correct one? 16:41:49 <andythenorth> yep 16:41:53 <andythenorth> ends in 2? 16:42:44 <planetmaker> hmpf... {{GRF_ID}} is not replaced in the readme... 16:42:59 <planetmaker> ah... {{GRF_TITLE}}... error of mine 16:43:10 <planetmaker> should be {{REPO_TITLE}} :-P 16:43:16 <andythenorth> hmmm.....I haven't updated *any* documentation. I didn't think to look 16:43:23 <andythenorth> that can go for 0.1.1 or something 16:43:58 <planetmaker> well, but {{GRF_TITLE}} looks wrong ;-) 16:54:13 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: 2cc train set - Revision 483: Fix: Metros didnt have the purchasecosts correctly 15bit'ified (via... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/483> 16:55:38 <DJ_Nekkid> any thoughts and/or preferences on 2cc wagon dates? 16:56:11 <DJ_Nekkid> initial in 1800, new short generation in 1920, then long in 1960, and then a new long generation in y2k? 16:56:53 <planetmaker> sounds fine to me :-) 16:58:43 <planetmaker> let's make FIRS a real release test ;-) 17:00:21 <andythenorth> sounds good 17:00:55 <planetmaker> he... making from bundle_src fails 17:08:06 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:09:30 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 750: Fix: Update version in readme properly <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/750> 17:19:00 <planetmaker> nice. Now md5sum matches 17:25:06 <planetmaker> andythenorth: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/releases/ <-- I leave it to you to upload it to bananas and make the announcement 17:25:12 <planetmaker> It's your baby :-) 17:25:15 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 751: Fix: [Makefile] It's a good idea to bundle all requ... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/751> 17:26:15 <Ammler> he, I wonder, if there will be use of the sources 17:26:34 <planetmaker> Hm... I wonder... if version availability could be such that FIRS could be uploaded to the same entry 17:26:44 <planetmaker> Ammler: well... possibly not. But it's good practise :-) 17:26:46 <Ammler> planetmaker: could you add the md5 file there too 17:27:02 <planetmaker> It's in the source, but yeah 17:27:19 <Ammler> well, the idea is that you can compare the md5 without downloading the package 17:27:59 <planetmaker> done 17:28:08 <planetmaker> yes, makes sense. 17:29:04 <Ammler> and don't forget to tag :-) 17:29:10 <planetmaker> what? 17:29:27 <Ammler> http://mz.openttdcoop.org/hg/firs/tags 17:29:46 <Ammler> maybe you need to push? 17:29:53 <planetmaker> I guess :-P 17:30:19 <andythenorth> afk, brb 17:30:24 <planetmaker> there 17:39:10 <planetmaker> andythenorth: FIRS-0.1.0 published on both bananas and devzone. Congratulations mate! Finally I Released Something turned true :-) 17:41:11 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 752: Added tag 0.1.0 for changeset bf8a420570cf <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/752> 17:41:57 <Ammler> planetmaker: release it for RC2 was like making it public... 17:42:15 <Ammler> it had 1.5k downloads 17:42:27 <andythenorth> yay 17:42:43 <andythenorth> I'll update the Bananas description text soon 17:42:50 <andythenorth> and post on the forum 17:43:37 <Ammler> planetmaker: you should use custom version 17:43:46 <Ammler> nightly isn't downloadable for stable 17:45:02 <planetmaker> no? 17:46:00 <planetmaker> well. Changed 17:48:46 <Ammler> @base 10 16 19447 17:48:46 <Webster> Ammler: 4BF7 17:49:10 <Ammler> @base 16 10 10004bf7 17:49:10 <Webster> Ammler: 268454903 17:49:14 <Ammler> planetmaker: ^ 17:49:47 <planetmaker> then it won't work for stables 17:49:52 <planetmaker> err... nightlies 17:50:03 <planetmaker> leaving 19447 is fine I think 17:50:21 <Ammler> of course it will 17:50:27 <Ammler> else it is a bug 17:50:53 <Ammler> nightly check does "mask" version part 17:51:27 <Ammler> that is how nutracks is setup 17:52:38 <planetmaker> right. ok 17:52:53 <andythenorth> hmmm 17:53:02 <andythenorth> should I put a file on the forums, or link to the devzone file? 17:53:05 <Ammler> hmm, it works 17:53:13 <planetmaker> yes, I changed it 17:53:26 <planetmaker> but it also works the other way, I'm quite sure 17:53:33 <Ammler> planetmaker: yes, it does 17:53:38 <Ammler> I said already :-P 17:53:43 <planetmaker> :-P 17:53:49 <Ammler> quite logical 17:54:00 <Ammler> as 1000000x > 00000000x 17:54:31 <planetmaker> let's get some DanMacK sprites aligned and ingame... 17:54:41 <planetmaker> New arctic shortened wagons and engines 17:54:53 <Ammler> but then, it does also work for version 0.7 17:55:29 <Ammler> or does it check, which rev is which version? 17:56:17 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - First public release: FIRS 0.1.0 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/news/25> || 2cc train set - Revision 484: Add: a new version of the xls sheet <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/484> 17:58:20 <planetmaker> Rubidium: do you plan another language update to the base sets? 17:59:00 <Ammler> planetmaker: maybe split the description languages in one file per language? 17:59:14 <planetmaker> Ammler: why? 17:59:23 <Ammler> so you don't need to rubi about :-) 17:59:28 <Rubidium> planetmaker: depends on whether someone makes a translation 17:59:40 <Ammler> or isn't the merge you fear? 17:59:52 <planetmaker> Ammler: no, it's not that what I fear. 18:00:04 <planetmaker> The background is rather: should I just ship OpenSFX now ;-) 18:00:19 <planetmaker> But well, it has time 18:00:25 <andythenorth> I have only tested FIRS with recent nightly of OTTD (currently r19499)...does it seem to work with RC3? 18:00:33 <planetmaker> it should 18:00:39 <planetmaker> but I didn't test 18:00:43 <andythenorth> or what? I am not really in touch with versions since the mac binaries died 18:00:58 <andythenorth> I only test with nightlies I've self-compiled 18:01:04 <planetmaker> hey, I also only compile myself :-) ^^ 18:01:07 <andythenorth> hmmm 18:01:28 <planetmaker> also for my machine there are no stables ;-) 18:01:37 <DJ_Nekkid> didnt the 2ccset compile correctly+ 18:01:38 <DJ_Nekkid> ? 18:02:24 <Ammler> at least bananas and new map works... 18:02:38 <Ammler> not quite useable for arctic it is? 18:02:49 <planetmaker> hm? 18:02:57 <Rubidium> planetmaker: oh, you did make modifications to the make system; did not see that 18:03:05 <planetmaker> yes, I did 18:03:19 <Ammler> well, fruit plantage on the snow :-) 18:03:38 <planetmaker> I'm a bit hesitant with OpenMSX... but I guess it's there as sensible as OpenSFX :-) 18:03:48 <Rubidium> planetmaker: there's one small problem with opensfx though... the md5 checksum hasn't changed yet :( 18:04:11 <planetmaker> :-O But the version in opensfx.obs 18:04:15 <planetmaker> That's not sufficient? 18:04:37 <planetmaker> Well... why should it actually... :S 18:04:40 <Rubidium> no 18:04:50 <planetmaker> darn darn darn 18:05:01 <Rubidium> oh, bashism 18:05:07 <planetmaker> ups, still? 18:05:22 <planetmaker> I thought I caught them 18:06:23 <Rubidium> and trailing spaces :( 18:06:59 <Rubidium> http://rbijker.net/openttd/foo.diff fixes it 18:07:28 <Ammler> hmm, I guess, I already found a small firs glitch 18:07:38 <Rubidium> delay the release! :) 18:07:42 <Ammler> oh no 18:07:47 <andythenorth> Ammler: meh 18:07:49 <Ammler> false warning :-P 18:07:50 <andythenorth> bug report? 18:08:19 <Ammler> he, I thought, the gravel pit is the snowy version of sand pit ;-) 18:08:29 <andythenorth> ha 18:08:31 <Ammler> looks a bit strange in tropic 18:08:41 <andythenorth> that was my solution to drawing and coding a quarry 18:08:46 <andythenorth> which would take about four days 18:09:51 <Ammler> well, it is nice :-) 18:10:11 <Rubidium> planetmaker: how hard would it be to put the revision/version in opensfx.sfo? There're a few "unused" sections that can have the version in them 18:10:26 <Rubidium> that way the md5 is guaranteed to change 18:11:17 <planetmaker> that'd not be hard 18:11:20 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: 2cc train set - Bug #851 (Resolved): Nightly builds are failing <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/851#change-2352> || 2cc train set - Revision 485: Add: Sharknose pnfo <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/485> 18:12:02 <Ammler> andythenorth: I guess, one of next big milestones is restricting industries to some places? 18:12:29 <planetmaker> Ammler: I hope not too much ;-) 18:12:47 <Ammler> well, it is quite needed for autogenerating imo 18:13:13 <Ammler> I guess, you suggested already a "scenario mode" ;-) 18:14:39 <Ammler> oh, incompatible with lumber mill? 18:16:15 <andythenorth> Ammler: there will be some restrictions. not too many. and not too restrictive 18:16:40 <planetmaker> Ammler: industry slots are taken... 18:16:56 <planetmaker> well... though two are actually free. So... sweet talk andy ;-) 18:17:33 <andythenorth> Ammler: I think FooBar explicitly coded out the lumber mill. Have a look in checks.pnfo 18:17:48 <Ammler> yeah, I just saw 18:17:57 <Ammler> He, it is a honor :-P 18:18:00 <andythenorth> He really did a *lot* of good work on the compatibiltiy checks. I don't have that kind of patience :o 18:18:58 <andythenorth> I don't know why the lumber mill is deemed incompatible, sorry 18:19:35 <Ammler> well, I assume, you disabled every other set 18:19:48 <Ammler> I mean, you disable firs with every other set 18:20:08 <andythenorth> ECS construction vector by Pikka is compatible :) 18:20:16 <andythenorth> It doesn't quite work properly, but it's allowed :) 18:20:54 <planetmaker> That doesn't sound about right. And probably we could allow the lumb/per mill 18:21:26 <Ammler> nah, I don't care :-P 18:21:26 <andythenorth> kind of thing I appreciate help for 18:21:34 <planetmaker> :-) 18:21:46 <planetmaker> Ammler: but I like trees being chopped 18:22:23 <Ammler> it would need the patch, imo 18:23:05 <andythenorth> I could do two kinds of 'forest': logging camp (plantation) and logging camp (old growth timber) 18:23:23 <andythenorth> one would cut game trees 18:23:52 <andythenorth> but I'd want to eliminate the micro-management aspect in tree-planting....which is possible 18:24:23 <Ammler> there is patch linked to my grf 18:24:29 <andythenorth> what does it do? 18:24:43 <planetmaker> andythenorth: both is probably not possible, I guess. Do you know? 18:24:49 <Ammler> cou can configure, how to cut trees with newgrf 18:25:02 <andythenorth> cutting trees is an industry flag 18:25:32 <andythenorth> It would need two industry slots to do both kinds of forest 18:26:09 <andythenorth> But for gameplay I would make it produce even if there were no trees 18:27:31 <planetmaker> Yes, that was my question. 18:27:40 <planetmaker> If that works, then there's no need for the other type 18:27:56 <planetmaker> Let it possibly produce at a slightly reduced rate, but so what ;-) 18:27:58 <Ammler> but the tree cutting in current openttd is quite ugly 18:42:38 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Example NewGRF Project - Revision 72: Cleanup: Remove unnecessary spaces <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/newgrf-makefile/repository/revisions/72> 19:04:44 <Rubidium> planetmaker: opensfx leaves files from make check after make clean ((src/)opensfx.cat and md5.check) 19:05:29 <planetmaker> clean shouldn't remove the md5, but mrproper 19:05:41 <planetmaker> (or it'd get cleaned in a source release, too) 19:05:49 <planetmaker> but the cat is bad 19:06:31 <Rubidium> planetmaker: md5.check was not in the source archive, opensfx-nightly.md5 was 19:06:45 <planetmaker> hm... 19:06:53 <planetmaker> right 19:10:56 <planetmaker> md5.check is a general problem 19:11:09 <planetmaker> not removed anywhere. Good find 20:21:00 *** OwenS has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:52:14 *** Yexo has quit IRC 20:52:31 *** Yexo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:02:43 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Example NewGRF Project - Revision 73: Change: Cleanup a bit more thoroughly <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/newgrf-makefile/repository/revisions/73> || OpenGFX - Revision 394: Change: [Makefile] Cleanup a bit more thoroughly <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/394> 21:21:04 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 22:01:35 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 23:00:48 *** ODM has quit IRC 23:12:59 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:53:09 *** Seberoth has quit IRC