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00:00:18 <Ammler> 5-6 was our server down? 00:00:32 <Ammler> hmm, why did we have no visitors on 2 00:01:21 <Ammler> no 3rd 00:01:26 <Ammler> when was /. day? 00:01:48 <Rubidium> The 6th 00:03:47 <Ammler> but now, our wiki and blog is down :-( 00:04:05 <Ammler> and there I can't do anything... 00:04:34 <planetmaker> he... your traffic is also anything but constant, Rubidium :-) 00:06:18 <Rubidium> what month are you looking at? 00:06:19 <planetmaker> so... /. is 100% traffic increase... 00:06:25 <planetmaker> April? 00:06:37 <Rubidium> yeah, then there're obviously a few peaks :) 00:06:59 <Rubidium> but /. = 100% increase seems reasonable 00:07:00 <planetmaker> :-) Otherwise yes: smooth(er) 00:08:40 <planetmaker> interestingly we see the same relative pattern on basically all our sub-domains - just at a different level 00:12:25 <Ammler> planetmaker: on the screen you posted to Rubidium 00:12:31 <Ammler> the peak was yesterday 00:12:36 <Ammler> 8 00:13:09 <planetmaker> and opengfx is the most searched-for term with bundles (33%) 00:14:16 <planetmaker> Ammler: hm... yesterday? I see 7th :-) 00:15:17 <Ammler> hmm, nvm 00:15:52 <planetmaker> but... statistically i should go to bed now ;-) 00:16:30 <planetmaker> sleep well those of you who want to sleep, too :-) 00:28:19 <Rubidium> bah... desync didn't let itself be reproduced :( 00:28:24 *** GT has quit IRC 00:29:02 <Rubidium> maybe it's something local because it didn't allow me to buy the company for some reason 00:29:19 <Rubidium> nevertheless... sleepytime 01:20:06 <DJNekkid> hey! no desync yet! 03:08:58 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 06:20:26 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:11:14 *** tneo has quit IRC 07:11:14 *** XeryusTC has quit IRC 07:11:14 *** planetmaker has quit IRC 07:11:14 *** SmatZ has quit IRC 07:13:33 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:37:05 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:58:56 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:57:27 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #871 (Rejected): Some stations built un-named <http://dev.openttdcoop.org:81/issues/871#change-2411> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #843 (Closed): Station showing empty string near junk yard <http://dev.openttdcoop.org:81/issues/843#change-2410> 09:01:08 *** XeryusTC has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:03:56 <andythenorth> morning 09:05:26 <ODM> oioi 09:12:59 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #807 (Rejected): Primary industres - remove any legacy st... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org:81/issues/807#change-2417> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #838 (Rejected): Primary industry closure <http://dev.openttdcoop.org:81/issues/838#change-2416> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #860 (Closed): Fishing Harbour - either code, or remove f... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org:81/issues/860#change-2415> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #861 (Closed): Machine Shop could use template C with Fue... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org:81/issues/861#change-2414> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #296 (Closed): Should primary industries exhaust their re... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org:81/issues/296#change-2413> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #529 (Closed): Aluminum plants in 1890 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org:81/issues/529#change-2412> 09:28:47 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Feature #892 (New): Update belly dump trailer code to support FIRS... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org:81/issues/892> || HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 317: Feature: improved cargo graphics support for Mt. 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Are you developer or manager in that project? 12:55:58 <Szvengar> i'm a developer 12:56:02 <planetmaker> which project? 12:56:17 <Szvengar> in the project 32bpp-ez 12:56:21 <planetmaker> ah 12:57:05 <planetmaker> ok, what's the issue? 12:57:06 <Ammler> Szvengar: tat project will get a new repo for patch queue 12:57:21 <Szvengar> ok Ammler 12:57:27 <Ammler> well, for testing you can still use the current 12:57:43 <Szvengar> but for now i'm trying to push some modification i made 12:57:50 <Ammler> GeekToo likes to split the patch 12:58:19 <Ammler> please paste the error you get 12:58:23 <Ammler> and why command you used to push 12:58:27 <Ammler> what* 12:59:24 <Szvengar> i have a PuTTY Fatal Error: "Disconnected: No supported authentication methods available" 12:59:44 <Szvengar> and in hg: remote: Server refused our key 12:59:44 <Szvengar> no suitable response from remote hg 12:59:44 <Szvengar> [command interrupted] 13:00:30 <Ammler> you can't login with putty 13:00:41 <Ammler> just hg commands are allowed with ssh 13:00:51 <Szvengar> this is the first time i push and use ssh so i might have made something not correct 13:01:10 <Ammler> did you check the Guide from our wiki? 13:01:11 <planetmaker> Szvengar: what does your .hg/hgrc look like in your repo? 13:01:17 <planetmaker> and what Ammler says 13:01:31 <Szvengar> i use the guide from the wiki 13:01:46 <planetmaker> ok 13:01:57 <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org:81/projects/home/wiki/Configuring_TortoiseHg_%28Windows%29#Pointing-to-you-Private-key 13:02:03 <Szvengar> hgrc: [paths] 13:02:03 <Szvengar> default = ssh://mz.openttdcoop.org/hg/32bpp-ez/ 13:02:03 <Szvengar> [tortoisehg] 13:02:03 <Szvengar> postpull = update 13:02:13 <Ammler> wrong url 13:02:37 <planetmaker> [paths] 13:02:38 <Ammler> ssh://ottdc@mz.openttdcoop.org/hg-repos/32bpp-ez 13:02:38 <planetmaker> default = ssh://ottdc@mz.openttdcoop.org/hg-repos/firs 13:02:41 <planetmaker> see the difference :-) 13:02:56 <planetmaker> missing user 13:02:58 <Szvengar> yes 13:03:38 <Szvengar> i just put user not password? 13:03:49 <Ammler> do you have a password? 13:03:53 <Ammler> :-) 13:04:08 <Ammler> we don't have ssh logins with pw on our server 13:04:14 <Szvengar> yes, i put a password in my key 13:04:23 <Ammler> ah, that is something else 13:04:29 <planetmaker> then you need that password. But that is not put in the URL 13:04:34 <Szvengar> ok 13:04:43 <Ammler> you get a prompt for it when pushing 13:04:44 <planetmaker> (It's good practise to have a pw on the key, yes :-) ) 13:05:00 <Ammler> (but also not really necessary in this case) 13:05:42 <Ammler> as your key is limited to do hg only 13:05:48 <Szvengar> now i have no prompt for a password but i have still a putty error 13:06:07 <Ammler> can you paste mercurial ini line 13:06:34 <Szvengar> # Generated by tortoisehg-config 13:06:34 <Szvengar> [ui] 13:06:34 <Szvengar> merge = kdiff3 13:06:34 <Szvengar> username = Szvengar <gcatlla@free.fr> 13:06:35 <Szvengar> ssh = "C:\Program Files\TortoiseHg\TortoisePlink.exe" -ssh -2 -i "C:\Program Files\TortoiseHg\szvengar-rsa1k.ppk" 13:06:36 <Szvengar> [tortoisehg] 13:06:36 <Szvengar> vdiff = vdiff 13:06:38 <Szvengar> overlayicons = localdisks 13:06:38 <Szvengar> [extensions] 13:06:40 <Szvengar> win32text = 13:06:40 <Szvengar> [encode] 13:06:42 <Szvengar> **.txt = dumbencode: 13:06:42 <Szvengar> **.ptxt = dumbencode: 13:06:44 <Szvengar> **.pnfo = dumbencode: 13:06:44 <Szvengar> **.nfo = dumbencode: 13:06:46 <Szvengar> **.csv = dumbencode: 13:06:46 <Szvengar> ** = cleverencode: 13:06:48 <Szvengar> [decode] 13:06:48 <Szvengar> **.txt = dumbdecode: 13:06:50 <Szvengar> **.ptxt = dumbdecode: 13:06:50 <Szvengar> **.pnfo = dumbdecode: 13:06:52 <Szvengar> **.nfo = dumbdecode: 13:06:52 <Szvengar> **.csv = dumbdecode: 13:06:54 <Szvengar> ** = cleverdecode: 13:06:54 <Szvengar> [patch] 13:06:56 <Szvengar> eol = crlf 13:07:20 <planetmaker> ... please use next time a paste service for so many lines. 13:07:24 <Ammler> he, next time use a paste service if you paste more than 3 lines :-) 13:08:18 <Ammler> let me check again, if I installed the key right 13:08:23 <Szvengar> what's a past service? Sorry i have no knowledge about IRC. 13:09:47 <Ammler> http://paste.openttd.org 13:09:49 <planetmaker> paste.openttd.org 13:10:02 <Ammler> Szvengar: can you try again? 13:10:06 <planetmaker> a web page which allows to just copy&paste things there :-) 13:10:50 <Ammler> the path to your key is correct? 13:11:02 <Szvengar> yes 13:11:23 <Szvengar> you want me to try elsewhere? 13:11:38 <Ammler> Apr 10 15:10:54 salieri sshd[19815]: Invalid user Szvengar from 82.216.54.142 13:11:48 <Ammler> you use Szvengar instead ottdc? 13:12:02 <Szvengar> let me check 13:12:03 <Ammler> you do identify by the key 13:12:17 <Ammler> everybody uses same key 13:12:25 <Ammler> same user* 13:14:31 <Szvengar> ok, the push did go well 13:14:44 <Ammler> grat :-) 13:14:58 <Szvengar> but i'm not seeing it on the project 13:15:11 <Ammler> but as said, we had yesterday a talk about restructuring for the patch 13:15:24 <Ammler> and final conclusion was to make a patch queue 13:15:41 <Ammler> Szvengar: it needs some seconds there 13:16:06 <Szvengar> ok 13:16:34 <Ammler> have you experience with hg patch queues? 13:16:42 <Szvengar> no at all 13:16:53 <Szvengar> sorry 13:16:54 <Ammler> well, then we are at same level :-P 13:17:16 <Ammler> my experience is limited to theory 13:17:28 <Szvengar> ok, that's better than nothing 13:18:51 <Szvengar> if i understand correctly, the goal to do patch queue is to have an automated sync with openttd 13:20:04 <Szvengar> and a limited patchs in 32bpp-ez repo 13:21:11 <Szvengar> so we can have a better follow up of this project and not be floaded by what's going on openttd 13:21:11 <Ammler> splitting the patches to certain "features" 13:21:49 <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org:81/projects/is2-patches/repository <-- IS2 patch queue 13:22:34 <Ammler> we can then have a script on the server which does automatically merge the queue for a repo. 13:23:43 <PeterT> when will we get a new IS2 patch? 13:24:13 <Ammler> that my friend you need to ask someone else :-P 13:24:27 <PeterT> Yes, but Hirundo isn't here atm 13:25:17 <Ammler> the patch is quite up2date 13:26:20 <Ammler> the merged repo is broken since some time 13:26:29 <Ammler> dunno, if Hirundo will fix that 13:31:56 <PeterT> Ammler: save_password patch is done 13:32:02 <PeterT> I'm compiling and testing it now 13:32:09 <Szvengar> ok, we put in a repo just what we modify as diff patches so they can be applied at any time on the default repo up to date 13:32:38 <Szvengar> Am i understanding correctly? 13:32:41 <Ammler> yep 13:32:53 <Ammler> you modify one feature at once 13:33:01 <Ammler> for developing 13:33:20 <Ammler> and then you merge all patches to make like 32bpp-ez patch pack :-) 13:33:55 <PeterT> Ammler: http://users.tt-forums.net/petert/save_password_1.0.0.diff 13:34:19 <Ammler> which we then merge to the 32bpp-ez repo and ask the devs to trigger a compile on their CF 13:35:34 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: 32bpp-EZ - Revision 15005: [ez] -Codechange: remove unnecessary code <http://dev.openttdcoop.org:81/projects/32bpp-ez/repository/revisions/15005> 13:35:42 <Szvengar> so like i said we will have a better view as developper of what's going on in the project 13:36:03 <Szvengar> is that on automated message? 13:36:10 <Szvengar> is that an automated message? 13:36:45 <Ammler> yeah it annouces activity from devzone 13:36:55 <Szvengar> cool 13:37:52 <PeterT> Ammler: It doesn't work 13:38:00 <PeterT> Ammler: When trying to start the server, I get an error 13:38:04 <PeterT> "Could not start the server" 13:38:24 * PeterT looks at network_server.cpp suspiciously 13:38:33 <Ammler> then I am happy, I didn't try yet :-) 13:39:03 <PeterT> :-D 13:39:47 <Szvengar> about finversion who return a weird thing with hg, do you know if this is a problem of the script or with hg? 13:40:03 <Szvengar> *findversion.sh 13:40:32 <Ammler> that is the hash of the changeset 13:40:37 <Ammler> unique 13:40:50 <Szvengar> but not the revision 13:41:13 <Ammler> yeah, on dedicated vcs someone could pull your changesets after his 13:41:22 <Ammler> and then the revision number wouldn't match 13:41:39 <Ammler> so that is why they use hashes 13:41:52 <PeterT> Ammler: I think the "Could not start the server" is my own personal fault 13:42:10 <PeterT> http://paste.openttd.org/225525 13:43:35 <Szvengar> ok, so how can we have the revision so we have a binary with it? 13:43:56 <Szvengar> because the hash means nothing 13:44:00 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 13:44:05 <Ammler> findversion does also tell the revision 13:44:15 <Ammler> but I guess, that repo is messed 13:44:46 <Ammler> usually the 3rd row is the svn version 13:46:44 <Ammler> Szvengar: I wouldn't waste too much time with that repo, it might simply be broken 13:47:02 <Ammler> and as it will be replaced by patch queue, depreciated 13:47:14 <Szvengar> ok, i guess we wait until the new repo 13:48:02 <Szvengar> you will reset the current one at one point? 13:48:30 <Ammler> yes, I guess so. 13:48:41 <Ammler> I don't like that broken repo 13:48:56 <Ammler> but I am no 32bpp dev :-) 13:49:27 <Szvengar> especially because it's all new 13:49:59 <Ammler> I would like to copy the IS2 workflow 13:50:07 <Szvengar> having a repo that works it's not a luxury 13:51:03 <Szvengar> do you have access to the scripts for those repos? 13:51:04 <PeterT> Ammler: did you even LOOK at my paste, or are you too busy with Szvengar? 13:51:56 <Ammler> PeterT: does the same server work without the patch? 13:52:04 <PeterT> No 13:52:14 <Ammler> so how should I help? 13:52:21 <PeterT> Tell me what to do to fix it? 13:52:50 <Ammler> no idea :-D 13:53:10 <PeterT> I asked in #openttd 13:53:14 <PeterT> but the patch works :D 13:58:06 <PeterT> Ammler: can you please patch the stable server and make sure to set save_password on? 13:58:11 <PeterT> The patch *should* work 14:05:42 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Java Game Logfile Analyzer - Revision 17: Fixed bug with wrong type of join messages. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org:81/projects/loganalyzer/repository/revisions/17> 14:37:07 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:54:07 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: 32bpp-EZ - Revision 15006: [ez] -Codechange: improve cc algorithm <http://dev.openttdcoop.org:81/projects/32bpp-ez/repository/revisions/15006> 15:02:50 <Ammler> Szvengar: maybe you like to start already with patch queue? 15:36:03 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:46:29 <planetmaker> PeterT: we don't patch our server with random patches... 15:46:41 <planetmaker> ... especially not if there's debugging in progress 15:47:16 <planetmaker> yes, I know that also some people here like that patch - but personally I wouldn't consider it a good idea to patch our servers with that. 15:47:45 <planetmaker> The need is minimal, the effect on other things unknown 16:07:53 <Szvengar> Ammler: i thought it is something you will (have to) do with GeekToo 16:08:41 <Ammler> planetmaker: :'-( 16:08:48 <planetmaker> Ammler: ? 16:08:58 <Szvengar> but why not at least i will learn something 16:08:58 <Ammler> I would like that patch too 16:09:16 <planetmaker> do you really think it's necessary? 16:09:34 <planetmaker> usually the server runs from start to end of a game 16:09:37 <Ammler> well, it depense what the purpose of the server is... 16:09:47 <Ammler> if it is for bug hunting, no. 16:10:16 <planetmaker> well. In the end it could (should?) be a honey pot in order to get a tasting for new people 16:10:34 <planetmaker> but atm I'd like to keep it as the only server where the desync is being tested ;-) 16:10:42 <planetmaker> That'd be jeopardized otherwise, I think 16:10:55 <Ammler> planetmaker: did you check the patch at least? 16:11:08 <planetmaker> not yet. I haven't seen it nor a link to it. 16:11:27 <Ammler> http://users.tt-forums.net/petert/save_password_1.0.0.diff 16:11:34 <Ammler> well, it doesn't apply anyway... 16:11:42 <Ammler> might conflict with bb 16:30:18 <andythenorth> planetmaker: can we make 'crop' a standard grfcodec flag in the make file? 16:31:44 <Ammler> didn't he already? 16:31:46 <planetmaker> andythenorth: still my answer is yes ;-) 16:31:54 <planetmaker> And FISH and FIRS already have that 16:31:57 <andythenorth> ? 16:32:09 * andythenorth checks something 16:32:11 <Ammler> you might overwite it with your local makefile? 16:32:59 <andythenorth> just needed to pull. thought I'd done that recently. I was wrong :P 16:33:21 <andythenorth> well that's nice. I could release a new version of FISH maybe :) 16:42:23 <planetmaker> :-) 16:42:40 <andythenorth> I've done all release things up to md5...how do I md5 again? 16:44:34 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FISH - Revision 311: Change: updated changelog <http://dev.openttdcoop.org:81/projects/fish/repository/revisions/311> 16:47:20 <andythenorth> planetmaker / Ammler: I've done the Bananas release. I have bundle_src here for the devzone.... 16:48:07 <planetmaker> cat you generate the md5 files? 16:48:39 <Ammler> bundle_src isn't needed 16:48:48 <Ammler> oh release 16:48:55 <Ammler> ok, ignore me 16:49:27 <Ammler> andythenorth: please do also pull the tagging 16:49:51 <Ammler> another advantage, if the server could build release self 16:50:02 <Ammler> push* 16:50:17 <planetmaker> andythenorth: the md5 files are needed for the zip and the ...source.tar.gz file 16:50:30 <planetmaker> and then you can scp the stuff to the fish release dir: 16:50:39 <Ammler> he can't 16:50:44 <planetmaker> he can :-P 16:50:45 <PeterT> Ammler: it doesn't apply? 16:50:45 <Ammler> or did you add him? 16:50:48 <PeterT> Strange. 16:51:06 <planetmaker> he's making too many releases, so he should be able to do that himself ;-) 16:51:27 <Ammler> PeterT: because of bb2, nothing strange really 16:51:33 <PeterT> alright 16:51:33 <andythenorth> I've pushed the tag 16:51:40 <PeterT> Did you take a look at .rej files? 16:51:50 <planetmaker> andythenorth: you can scp the files to 16:52:26 <Ammler> no, planetmaker vetoed so we wait with it.. :-) 16:52:31 <PeterT> Ammler: which one do you use? http://devs.openttd.org/~smatz/bb/ 16:52:34 <PeterT> BB or BB2? 16:52:48 <andythenorth> so what do I need to do in order? Assume I have tagged, pushed, and run make_bundle, make bundle_src 16:52:53 <planetmaker> Ammler: does ottdc have write access to openttd's dir? 16:52:55 <Ammler> bb2 is for server 16:52:56 <planetmaker> to bundles? 16:52:59 <planetmaker> if so: how? 16:53:00 <Ammler> planetmaker: no 16:53:04 <planetmaker> ok 16:53:12 <planetmaker> andythenorth: one moment :-) 16:53:21 <Ammler> but ottdc has ssh access to openttd ;-) 16:53:35 <planetmaker> that's stupid ;-) 16:54:02 <Ammler> yeah, I know, but I like to keep the ownsers 16:54:25 <Ammler> we had quite a mess before with mix between ottdc and openttd files 16:56:17 <planetmaker> hm... andy's key vanished... 16:57:10 <Ammler> andythenorth: else you can do it like you did last time and I move the files 16:57:11 <planetmaker> ah... there it is 16:57:45 <andythenorth> Ammler: you are welcome to move the files :) 16:58:12 <andythenorth> by the time I've done changelog, bananas, forum update....I'm bored of releasing :P 16:58:44 <planetmaker> andythenorth: you can copy them now 16:59:28 <planetmaker> scp them to ssh://openttd@mz.openttdcoop.org:22/public_html/fish/releases 16:59:32 <planetmaker> mind the user 16:59:35 <andythenorth> so which files? 16:59:39 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FISH - Revision 312: Added tag 0.3 for changeset 062837287e71 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org:81/projects/fish/repository/revisions/312> 16:59:46 <planetmaker> those which are there for the old release, too 16:59:50 <PeterT> Ammler: http://users.tt-forums.net/petert/diffs/save_pass_bb2_1.0.0.diff 16:59:59 <PeterT> that diff is with BB2 and save_password 17:00:05 <PeterT> it was a very trivial fix 17:00:29 <planetmaker> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/releases/ <-- actually that is a good reference :-) 17:00:44 <planetmaker> all those files which firs-0.1.2 has. and the readme 17:01:01 <Ammler> the .REV file is useless, yet ;-) 17:01:27 <planetmaker> basically that should then be scp fish-x.y.* openttd@mz.openttdcoop.org/public_html/fish/releases 17:01:39 <Ammler> / 17:01:56 <PeterT> Ammler: what do you think? 17:02:00 <PeterT> does it apply well? 17:02:05 <PeterT> is it ok now? 17:02:17 <Ammler> no idea, didn't try and won't :-) 17:02:30 <Ammler> at least not now 17:02:56 <PeterT> Try it plz 17:03:07 <andythenorth> hmm 17:03:09 <planetmaker> PeterT: what kind of patch is that? It's HUGE 17:03:11 <PeterT> I mean soon, not now :-) 17:03:17 <planetmaker> and quite different from the previous one 17:03:31 <PeterT> It's BB2 and save_password 17:03:37 <PeterT> both patches in one 17:03:41 * andythenorth hates scp 17:03:50 <PeterT> I bet scp hates you too :-P 17:03:53 <planetmaker> Please make it separate... 17:03:56 <PeterT> Ok 17:04:18 <planetmaker> Nevertheless: I don't feel like adding it before the desync debugging is finished. 17:04:46 <planetmaker> That might take a few days still. I'm waiting for a server-side patch which will ease that debugging. 17:04:53 <andythenorth> scp fish-0.3-source.tar.gz openttd@mz.openttdcoop.org:22/public_html/fish/releases 17:04:54 <andythenorth> fail 17:05:08 <PeterT> planetmaker: what do you mean by 'ease'? 17:06:14 <planetmaker> don't ask me ;-) better readable, easier understandable and some infos added, better formatted 17:06:36 <planetmaker> read the recent trunk commits and you (and I) could get an idea :-) 17:06:48 <PeterT> Ok 17:07:22 <PeterT> you mean like r19593? 17:07:24 <andythenorth> planetmaker: I can ssh to the location you gave, but can't scp 17:07:33 <planetmaker> PeterT: principally I'm for that kind of patch. It's a good thing. And I'll be happy to use it afterwards, I think 17:08:08 <planetmaker> andythenorth: yes. wrong command I gave. Sorry: 17:08:26 <PeterT> planetmaker: It is, I'm using it on my server at #sn and I haven't had any desyncs or crashes 17:08:28 <planetmaker> scp fish-0.3-source.tar.gz openttd@mz.openttdcoop.org:22~/public_html/fish/releases 17:08:51 <andythenorth> that tilde is why I hate scp :P 17:08:58 <andythenorth> I know what it's for and why 17:08:59 <planetmaker> alt + n 17:09:11 <Ammler> ~=$HOME 17:09:17 <andythenorth> I know 17:09:19 <Ammler> or /home/openttd/... 17:09:45 <andythenorth> I like the shell best for some things, but moving files is best done with a mouse! 17:09:57 <Ammler> sftp 17:10:10 <Ammler> sftp://openttd@mz.openttdcoop.org should work too 17:10:31 <Ammler> in your file broswer 17:10:52 <andythenorth> sftp = win 17:10:56 <Ammler> no 17:11:10 <Ammler> you might mean ftps or something ugly 17:11:47 <planetmaker> scp fish-0.3/readme.txt openttd@mz.openttdcoop.org:~/public_html/fish/releases works for me nicely 17:11:52 <andythenorth> how do I generate the md5 for src? 17:12:06 <Ammler> make md5 17:12:24 <andythenorth> another win 17:12:38 <Ammler> ah, now I get your "win" :-P 17:12:50 <Ammler> I thought you mean Windows :-D 17:13:25 <andythenorth> hmm 17:13:27 <planetmaker> andythenorth: for the src you need to do it manually. also for the zip actually 17:13:37 <planetmaker> md5 -r filename > filename.md5 17:13:37 <andythenorth> yup I just found that :o 17:13:43 <planetmaker> mind the -r 17:14:04 <planetmaker> I shall add a target for that, though. It bothers me, too :-) 17:14:46 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FISH - Revision 313: Fix: Large River Boat tanker graphics were missing wake when moving <http://dev.openttdcoop.org:81/projects/fish/repository/revisions/313> 17:14:49 <andythenorth> think I'm done 17:15:01 <andythenorth> oh yeah - I shipped a release with a bug m( 17:15:07 <andythenorth> nvm 17:16:24 <planetmaker> PeterT: in order to separate those patches: it might be a good idea to use hg queues :-) 17:16:37 <planetmaker> then it's easy to stack patches (that's what queues actually do) 17:16:49 <PeterT> planetmaker: I'm making a diff that assumes bb2 has already been applied 17:17:05 <PeterT> the parts of save_password that conflict with bb2 will already be fixed in the dif 17:17:06 <PeterT> *diff 17:17:17 <planetmaker> PeterT: yes, that's exactly what hg queues makes VERY easy :-) 17:17:24 <PeterT> doh 17:17:26 <PeterT> I should learn that 17:17:30 <PeterT> but I don't have time now :D 17:17:35 <planetmaker> do you use mercurial? :-) 17:17:40 <planetmaker> not difficult 17:18:01 <PeterT> I *know* how to navigate it, basically 17:18:02 <PeterT> hg pull 17:18:04 <PeterT> hg clone 17:18:05 <PeterT> and such 17:18:08 <planetmaker> when I was still maintaining my patchpack I used hg queues 17:18:19 <planetmaker> you run hg qinit 17:18:37 <planetmaker> hg qadd patchname 17:18:42 <planetmaker> add your patch 17:18:45 <planetmaker> hg qcommit 17:18:48 <planetmaker> and then the next 17:18:53 <planetmaker> that's it. basically 17:19:01 <PeterT> I don't have a repo :-( 17:19:39 <Ammler> planetmaker: was :-( 17:19:46 <Ammler> :-D 17:22:04 <PeterT> planetmaker: diff is done 17:22:16 <PeterT> http://users.tt-forums.net/petert/diffs/save_password_bb2_1.0.0.diff 17:22:25 <PeterT> It has the conflicting lines of bb2 already in there 17:22:32 <PeterT> please, make sure you have bb2 already applied 17:27:53 <Ammler> andythenorth: the readme in the release downloads is broken 17:28:11 <andythenorth> ?? 17:28:24 <Ammler> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/fish/readme.txt 17:29:09 <andythenorth> what's broken about it? 17:29:59 <Ammler> don't you the tags? 17:30:03 <Ammler> see* 17:31:46 <andythenorth> yup 17:31:49 <andythenorth> hmm 18:00:51 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #893 (New): Some industries should cluster (e.g. farms) <http://dev.openttdcoop.org:81/issues/893> 18:07:57 <Ammler> andythenorth: the issue reminds me of a bug we had with opengfx 18:08:03 <Ammler> talk to planetmaker about 18:08:30 <Ammler> planetmaker: wouldn't it make sense to make a .sed file 18:29:15 *** ODM has quit IRC 18:33:42 <planetmaker> [19:19] <Ammler> planetmaker: was :-( <-- well... saying that I currently do is... stretching the boundaries of "doing something" 18:34:21 <planetmaker> I don't say I might again... but there's so many things I'd like to do... 18:35:09 <planetmaker> s/might/might not/ 18:40:13 <planetmaker> Yexo: could I already start a small newgrf with nml? 18:40:19 <planetmaker> I guess, I could, right? 18:40:34 <planetmaker> ( I didn't yet find time to look properly :-( ) 18:42:27 <Ammler> he, would be nice, then I see how ti works with additional tools :-) 19:01:33 <Yexo> planetmaker: varaction2 is not yet implemented 19:01:54 <Yexo> real action2 is only implemented for vehicles I think, ask Hirundo about that 19:02:08 <Yexo> action0 works only for most industry properties,not even for all 19:03:07 <Yexo> but if you tell me what parts you need we could implemented those first 19:03:24 <Yexo> I expect to finish varaction2 support this evening 19:07:20 <Yexo> brb 19:25:40 <planetmaker> that sounds about all which is needed. I think of making the OpenGFX+ newgrf one of the first newgrf using it. 19:25:48 <planetmaker> and I'd start with some additional vehicles. 19:26:10 <planetmaker> thanks for the update :-) 19:35:37 <Yexo> planetmaker: the parser for all those things is already done, so you can already check for valid syntax (subject to syntax changes of course) 19:56:49 *** Szvengar has quit IRC 21:08:47 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 23:42:38 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 23:46:44 <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: NFO Meta Language - Revision 28: Feature: varacion2 support mostly done <http://dev.openttdcoop.org:81/projects/nml/repository/revisions/28> || 32bpp-EZ - Revision 15053: Codechange: update to svn 19600 <http://dev.openttdcoop.org:81/projects/32bpp-ez/repository/revisions/15053> || 32bpp-EZ - Revision 15052: (svn r19600) -Fix (r18994): Presence of online content was not properl... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org:81/projects/32bpp-ez/repository/revisions/15052> || 32bpp-EZ - Revision 15051: (svn r19599) -Fix [FS#3751]: Vehicles with a weight of zero crashed th... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org:81/projects/32bpp-ez/repository/revisions/15051> || 32bpp-EZ - Revision 15050: (svn r19598) -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: <http://dev.openttdcoop.org:81/projects/32bpp-ez/repository/revisions/15050> || 32bpp-EZ - Revision 15049: (svn r19597) -Fix: Removing NewGRFs from the GUI list leaked. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org:81/projects/32bpp-ez/repository/revisions/15049> 23:47:59 <PeterT> Yexo: are the nfo meta language tools ready enough to start using? 23:48:26 <Yexo> not yet, but it won't be long 23:48:46 <Yexo> what do you want to use it for? 23:49:07 <PeterT> I was going to try it out 23:59:51 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC