Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 26th April 2010:
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02:04:05  <welshdragon> For up to date information regarding the UK Bus Set and British Rail OpenTTD Set, /join #dragonforums
03:00:12  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: UK Bus Set - IRC Channel <> || British Rail OpenTTD Set - IRC Channel <> || UK Bus Set - Feature #555 (Reopened): Scale <> || UK Bus Set - The UK Bus Set has been restarted <>
05:24:29  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Revision 435: Fix [#662]: Alignment of toyland wagons now uses the 7/8 length template <>
06:12:32  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Revision 436: Change [#662]: Move the toyland maglev and monorail engine sprites to the... <> || OpenGFX - Bug #905 (Confirmed): missing CC in the bubble wagon <>
06:44:37  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Revision 437: Change [#662]: Use the default 8/8 length template also for Ploddyphut an... <>
07:00:38  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Revision 438: Change: Rename the alignment template for the 7/8 length wagons <>
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07:16:41  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Bug #906 (New): livery mismatch Millenium and PAX/Mail wagons <>
07:37:19  <Ammler> welshdragon: news spamer again :-/
07:37:34  <welshdragon> :P
07:40:06  <planetmaker> moin
07:40:24  <planetmaker> welshdragon, the comment was aimed at what now shows at on the main page...
07:40:41  <welshdragon> yes, I am aware of that
07:40:54  <planetmaker> :-S
07:41:43  <planetmaker> what about actually WORKING on those sets than posting obviously pointless messages about yet another re-structuring in the organization of either BROS or UK BUS set every one or two months?
07:41:59  <planetmaker> (yes, I know, it's harsh words)
07:42:36  <planetmaker> those two sets are discussed to death, I fear :-(
07:44:56  <planetmaker> actually... it rather looks like kicking the corpses.
07:46:12  <planetmaker> welshdragon, it's fine if you want to gather interest, followers and people... but this really feels like abusing the news.
07:46:27  <planetmaker> If you want to excite interest I propose to make a reasonable blog post about that.
07:46:51  <planetmaker> With this kind of news being half of the devzone news we'll be forced to de-activate the link to our main page.
07:47:39  <planetmaker> wether generally or on a per-project basis will have to be seen.
08:04:47  <planetmaker> Ammler:
08:04:49  <planetmaker> ingo@devera:~/ottd/grfdev/opengfx> cat .hg/hgrc
08:04:49  <planetmaker> [paths]
08:04:49  <planetmaker> default =
08:04:49  <planetmaker> default-push = ssh://
08:04:49  <planetmaker> ingo@devera:~/ottd/grfdev/opengfx> hg pull -u
08:04:51  <planetmaker> abort: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
08:04:53  <planetmaker> not good :-(
08:05:07  <welshdragon> planetmaker: it's not a restructuring per se
08:06:30  <welshdragon> we've just had slight changes
08:06:41  <planetmaker> welshdragon, the point is not what it is exactly but the point is that as is it's pretty boring news. Too boring to be on a main page
08:06:43  <welshdragon> and one of the sets that had halted has now restarted
08:06:56  <Ammler> planetmaker: I fix it right now...
08:07:25  <welshdragon> planetmaker: well, It's news to the set, and unfortunately if the news is passed on to the main openttdcoop page then I can't do anything about it
08:07:27  <planetmaker> And the news of "I want to start something"... is really not news.
08:07:45  <welshdragon> planetmaker: that's not what the news was about ><
08:07:46  <planetmaker> welshdragon, yes. And that's why we'll de-activate broadcast.
08:08:42  <planetmaker> but yes, you're right, it makes sense to allow those news per project. Just not every project news is worth to be broadcasted to the main page
08:08:54  <Ammler> planetmaker: try to pull again
08:09:09  <planetmaker> We enabled it such way as we assumed that the news are only used to indicate releases or things of general interest.
08:09:15  <planetmaker> Not project-internal news.
08:09:28  <planetmaker> which I assume are communicated between members anyway
08:09:35  <welshdragon> planetmaker: there should be an option for it to be sent to the Openttdcoop website anyway
08:09:55  <planetmaker> we'll make it such, I think, that only admins can enable that.
08:10:29  <planetmaker> or we hard-code a few projects. Dunno what works.
08:10:41  <planetmaker> I haven't touched or looked at the code in question
08:11:03  <planetmaker> but this easy feature is too easily abused :-(
08:11:29  <welshdragon> anyway
08:11:34  <welshdragon> I've gotta run
08:11:42  <welshdragon> lecture at 11, stuff to do before then
08:11:51  <planetmaker> enjoy
08:11:54  <welshdragon> including acquiring gig tickets
08:14:05  <Paul2> what gig?
08:24:04  <welshdragon>
08:24:05  <Webster> Title: BBC - Big Weekend 2010 (at
08:45:52  <Paul2> ah cool
09:42:46  <Ammler> welshdragon: you could have at least merged the 2 news on uk bus set, also the link isn't clickable
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10:27:25  <PeterT> Ammler: can you please change this to 90% finished?
10:36:23  <Ammler> PeterT: those are just indicators...
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11:21:32  <planetmaker> @calc 43 / (43 + 34)
11:21:33  <Webster> planetmaker: 0.558441558442
11:21:45  <planetmaker> @calc 28 / (28+22)
11:21:45  <Webster> planetmaker: 0.56
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12:10:29  <Seberoth> hi
12:38:33  <planetmaker> hi
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16:59:12  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Revision 439: Change: Typo in filenames <>
17:03:00  <Ammler> thanks pm :-$
17:03:43  <planetmaker> ah, no worries. Shit happens
17:16:19  <planetmaker> Ammler: but if you feel like, you could review the alignment of trains :-)
17:16:25  <planetmaker> all trains ;-)
17:16:42  <Ammler> hehe
17:16:54  <planetmaker> I'll upload a few saves, though
17:19:45  <planetmaker> added test games, one for each climate with all trains
17:20:00  <planetmaker> to the documents / technical documentation section
17:22:15  <planetmaker> All trains use now an OpenGFX-specific template. The pcx template is actually a 2cctrainset template (cut down to smaller size)
17:22:34  <planetmaker> the alignment template... well. That's my own.
17:22:40  <planetmaker> or OpenGFX' now
17:26:03  <planetmaker> I somehow didn't get nice results with pikka's templates. And then 2cctrainset was... easy at hands ;-)
17:29:29  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Document: arctic train alignment testgame <> || OpenGFX - arctic_traintest.sav <> || OpenGFX - tropical_traintest.sav <> || OpenGFX - Document: tropical train alignment test game <> || OpenGFX - temperate_traintest.sav <> || OpenGFX - Document: temperate train alignment test game <>
17:33:45  <Ammler> yeah, I told you already that 2cc v2 has perfect alignment :-)
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17:34:42  <Ammler> you have something open before 0.2.4?
17:36:07  <planetmaker> yes, I know that you said so. And you're probably right. Though I modded it slightly
17:36:15  <planetmaker> you mean other urgent bugs?
17:36:39  <planetmaker> hm... nothing which needs doing absolutely urgently
17:36:53  <planetmaker> And this overhaul might be worth a release. Current alignment is ugly
17:37:51  <planetmaker> there might be some further minor issues like #905 / #906, but... minor. They're not essential, though nice
17:39:45  <planetmaker> what about Ammler ?
17:41:46  <Ammler> Oh, I know now, when those are used, 1st building stage
17:41:55  <Ammler> of industries
17:44:31  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Feature #662 (Feedback): Rework trains <> || OpenGFX - Revision 440: Cleanup: Remove unneeded comments, alignment templates and a now unneeded... <>
18:39:47  <PeterT> @logs
18:39:47  <Webster> Logs:
18:44:44  <planetmaker> Ammler: we don't have the possibility to have one task depend upon other task at redmine?
18:45:10  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Feature #840: Improved signal sprites <>
18:45:46  <planetmaker> nvm. I am blind
18:48:39  <Ammler> yes, you are :-P
19:01:17  <planetmaker> :-)
19:11:32  <planetmaker> I knew I used it before, but... it was simple gone... from my view at least ;-)
20:50:12  <planetmaker> @calc 1000 / 4.7 * 0.5
20:50:12  <Webster> planetmaker: 106.382978723
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21:25:44  <PeterT> Ammler: what do you mean "it's just an idicator"?
21:31:02  <planetmaker> in other words: it doesn't matter whether it's 0%, 30% or 90%
21:31:13  <Ammler> change it self but don't bother me with it :-P
21:32:05  <Ammler> I could change it over the db, but it isn't worth
21:32:16  <PeterT> I can't change it, Ammler
21:32:35  <PeterT> why do think I asked you?
21:33:10  <Ammler> [12:27] <PeterT> Ammler: can you please change this to 90% finished?
21:34:39  <PeterT> yes, I know
21:34:52  <PeterT> I asked you because I'm not able to change it
21:34:54  <PeterT> only admin
21:37:01  <planetmaker> @calc 2**6
21:37:01  <Webster> planetmaker: 64
21:37:09  <planetmaker> @base 10 16 64
21:37:09  <Webster> planetmaker: 40
21:38:29  <Ammler> PeterT: who set it 70%?
21:40:25  <Ammler> added you as contributor to Autopilot
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21:43:01  <PeterT> Oh, wow. :-)
21:43:03  <PeterT> Thanks Ammler
21:43:13  <PeterT> does this mean I can commit, or just change stuff around?
21:43:33  <Ammler> devs can commit
21:43:52  <Ammler> you should have same permissions as a dev
21:44:25  <PeterT> Ok?
21:44:31  <Ammler> except repo access
21:45:04  <PeterT> Gotcha.
21:45:19  <PeterT> I'm going to work on !name command some more ;-)
21:50:34  <PeterT> Ammler: how do you do "greater than or equal to" on a computer?
21:51:41  <Paul2> >=
21:51:52  <PeterT> Thanks.
21:57:03  <PeterT> is there a [getArgs] in ap+ Ammler?
21:57:13  <PeterT> to call all arguments
22:03:58  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Bug #348: maglev horizontal track <>
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