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Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 2nd May 2010:
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11:39:08  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Bug #905 (Closed): missing CC in the bubble wagon <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/905#change-2491> || OpenGFX - Revision 452: Fix: [#905] Some pixels of the bubble wagon had erronous colours <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/452> || Redmine - Revision 3572: Adds trackers to individual project XML (#5342). <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3572> || Redmine - Revision 3573: Fixing indentation. <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3573> || Redmine - Revision 3571: Adds issue relations to individual issue XML (#5305). <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3571>
11:54:10  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Example NewGRF Project - Bug #591 (Closed): readme: remove tags from repo <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/591#change-2495> || Example NewGRF Project - Code Review #776 (Closed): change it to *.grf <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/776#change-2494>
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12:26:14  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX+ - Feature #918 (New): don't phase-out all helicopters <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/918> || OpenGFX+ - Feature #917 (New): allow powerplants to close down <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/917>
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13:24:07  <planetmaker> @calc 1/8/1.6
13:24:07  <Webster> planetmaker: 0.078125
13:30:02  <planetmaker> @calc 246 * 1.6
13:30:02  <Webster> planetmaker: 393.6
13:43:29  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX+ - Feature #918 (Closed): don't phase-out all helicopters <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/918#change-2496" target="_blank">http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/918#change-2496> || OpenGFX+ - Feature #918 (Closed): don't phase-out all helicopters <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/918>
13:47:14  <Ammler> planetmaker: why did you hardcode?
13:47:24  <planetmaker> hm?
13:47:25  <Ammler> what was bad with my idea .*?
13:47:38  <planetmaker> context?
13:47:57  <Ammler> #881
13:48:33  <planetmaker> did you look at newgrf-makefile/.hgignore?
13:49:15  <planetmaker> oh, wrong issue :-)
13:49:35  <planetmaker> well, do we want to ignore every .* file, always?
13:49:37  <planetmaker> Not sure
13:49:40  <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/newgrf-makefile/repository/entry/scripts/Makefile.def#L116
13:50:46  <planetmaker> I like to be quite cautious with general rules of exclusion :-)
13:52:00  <Ammler> backup.push is obsolete
13:52:15  <planetmaker> well :-)
13:52:28  <planetmaker> the issue only said it will be ;-)
13:52:56  <Ammler> but then .devzone isn't :-P
13:53:14  <planetmaker> well, that's included, too
13:58:30  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 787: Change: primary industry closure behaviour. May wo... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/787> || OpenGFX+ - Revision 13: Feature: [#918] Keep Guru-X2 helicopter available forever <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfxplus/repository/revisions/13> || NFO Meta Language - Revision 135: Feature: Allow feature 03, action0 (planes) <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/135> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 786: Change: partial code to handle primary industry pro... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/786> || OpenGFX+ - Revision 12: Cleanup: Document code parts a bit better <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfxplus/repository/revisions/12> || FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 785: Change: partial code to handle primary industry pro... <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/785>
14:09:50  <Ammler> also we should get ride of "nightly"
14:10:21  <Ammler> maybe replace by "custom"
14:11:53  <Ammler> nightly should be exclusive for the nightly compiler
14:14:40  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX+ - Feature #917: allow powerplants to close down <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/917#change-2497>
14:14:42  <planetmaker> hm, maybe, yeah
14:23:59  <Ammler> planetmaker: how shall we call the version file
14:24:13  <Ammler> finger?
14:24:23  <Ammler> or REV
14:24:30  <Ammler> or versions.txt
14:25:04  <planetmaker> hm, good question :-)
14:25:21  <Ammler> <version> <date> <project> <type>
14:25:50  <Ammler> 0.2.4 2010-4-29 opengfx release
14:26:57  <Ammler> r450 2010-4-30 opengfx nightly
14:27:13  <Ammler> no, releases and nightlies
14:27:58  <Ammler> dunno, if we shall include the hg hash
14:32:26  <Rubidium> hmm, trying to "recreate" finger.openttd.org for projects hosted there?
14:32:38  <planetmaker> possibly
14:32:44  <Rubidium> http://finger.openttd.org/versions.txt <- already has opengfx, opensfx and openmsx
14:34:14  <planetmaker> that grew quite a bit since I last looked at it :-)
14:34:43  <Rubidium> that's quite possible; we haven't removed anything yet
14:34:44  <Ammler> Rubidium: yes
14:35:05  <planetmaker> no need to remove anything really.
14:35:20  <Ammler> Rubidium: how would you write the finger, if you would host opengfx nightlies and releases
14:36:12  <planetmaker> 0.2.4 <date> projectname stable
14:36:13  <Rubidium> probably opengfx/nightlies and opengfx/releases as "name"
14:36:22  <planetmaker> r415 <date> projectname nightly
14:36:36  <planetmaker> hm... or that way :-)
14:36:46  <planetmaker> then the path is given already as in bundles
14:36:52  <Rubidium> although you'd get
14:36:57  <planetmaker> makes sense
14:37:03  <Rubidium> rev <date> nightlies/opengfx
14:37:05  <Ammler> then my proposal is good?
14:37:14  <Rubidium> ver <data> releases/opengfx stable
14:37:15  <Rubidium> and
14:37:22  <Rubidium> ver <data> releases/opengfx testing
14:37:22  <Ammler> [16:26] <Ammler> r450 2010-4-30 opengfx nightlies
14:37:59  <planetmaker> yeah... or make it one. Dunno really
14:38:31  <Rubidium> although, you don't split between releases and nightlies at the level we do
14:38:38  <Ammler> but I will make a directory per version, ok?
14:39:05  <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/wiki/Devzone
14:40:28  <planetmaker> Rubidium: not yet. But on a newgrf level I can imagine some projects doing that at some stage
14:40:55  <planetmaker> Or possibly NML could do that
14:41:07  <Rubidium> planetmaker: don't think so (at least not in the way I meant it)
14:41:21  <planetmaker> I assumed you meant branches?
14:41:31  <planetmaker> please explain :-)
14:41:44  <Rubidium> you won't be having a bundles.openttdcoop.org/nightlies/open[sfx|gfx|msx] et al.
14:41:57  <Rubidium> and bundles.openttdcoop.org/releases/open[sfx|gfx|msx] et al.
14:41:58  <Ammler> yes, we have it the other way
14:42:07  <planetmaker> yes, the other way around
14:42:34  <Rubidium> as such, you don't split between releases and nightlies at the level we do
14:42:44  <Rubidium> although...
14:42:46  <Ammler> that is why we don't need nightlies/opengfx, instead we could opengfx nightlies|releases|<branches>
14:43:08  <Rubidium> project/nightlies/foobranch is not totally unthinkable
14:43:52  <Ammler> I am just not sure, where we should make the finger accessable
14:44:10  <Ammler> one big file like openttd.org or small per-project files?
14:44:27  <planetmaker> Ammler: one big one might even make sense
14:44:46  <Rubidium> per project means you can use the same format as finger.openttd.org
14:45:05  <Ammler> I want to use the same format
14:45:27  <Ammler> <version>\t<date>\t<project>\t<type:nightlies|releases>\t<comments>
14:45:48  <Ammler> well, almost :-)
14:46:26  <Rubidium> that is a completely different format
14:47:11  <Ammler> the resulting path: bundles.openttdcoop.org/<project>/<type>/<version>/<project>-<version>.xxx
14:47:57  <Ammler> Rubidium: the only difference is that we have type after project
14:48:24  <Rubidium> and that project isn't a path at the binaries server
14:48:50  <Rubidium> i.e. no binaries.openttd.org///
14:49:15  <planetmaker> sure it's another server. That's why the finger is at another domain ;-)
14:50:14  <Ammler> so we could make the finger per project and then indeed same format
14:50:29  <Rubidium> yes, but the same format implies that bundles.openttdcoop.org/// would work. If that doesn't, then it isn't the same format.
14:51:05  <Ammler> <version>\t<date>\t<type:nightlies|releases>\t<comments>
14:51:18  <Rubidium> note that I don't care that much about the format, just that Ammler said he wanted to use our format which implies some things that he wants to have done differently and as such it is, by definition, another format
14:51:36  <Ammler> well, I would like to reuse my openttdbash :-)
14:51:49  <planetmaker> :-)
14:53:39  <Ammler> hmm, I guess, it should work with <project> in it
14:55:07  <Ammler> also maybe we can skip nightly build, when the release was just done...
14:58:55  <planetmaker> don't worry about that
14:59:14  <planetmaker> extra hassle which might just be a bad idea in some circumstances
16:18:27  <Brot6> firs: update from r784 to r787 done (1 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/
16:19:04  <Brot6> opengfx: update from r450 to r452 done (1 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/nightlies/
16:19:23  <Brot6> worldairlineset: compile completely failed! :-( - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlineset/nightlies/compile-log/worldairlineset-FAILED-compile-error.log
16:19:23  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a update: 2cctrainset (r516), 32bpp-extra (r31), airportsplus (r48), bros (r10), comic-houses (r69), fish (r360), heqs (r318), nmts (r15), nutracks (r59), openmsx (r49), opensfx (r88), snowlinemod (r10)
16:55:21  <planetmaker> :-) Nightly compile is nice
17:04:27  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Revision 453: Fix: (r452) Sugar wagon had more white than intended <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/453>
17:39:22  <frosch123> grfid 0x27 0x71 0x10 0x03 ("'q" 0x10 0x03) <- is that the 2cc set?
17:39:41  <frosch123> (checked in nutracks to disable "track enabler"s)
17:39:51  <planetmaker> uhm...
17:40:39  <planetmaker> GRF_ID             := 27 71 10 03 according to Makefile
17:40:51  <planetmaker> so yes
17:41:14  <frosch123> ok, i would have expected some "DJ" at the front
17:41:19  <frosch123> thanks :)
17:41:23  <planetmaker> you're welcome
17:41:46  <Rubidium> frosch123: but our NewGRF doesn't start with OT either
17:41:53  <planetmaker> "DJ" was in v1. v2 uses a less generic term
17:42:04  <planetmaker> Rubidium: yes, should be RB :-P
17:42:24  <planetmaker> s/less/more/
17:46:56  <planetmaker> frosch123: in general you can find the NFO of our hosted newgrfs at locations like http://bundles.openttdcoop.org:81/nutracks/nightlies/nutracks.nfo with their full comments
17:47:15  <planetmaker> it's always the nfo of the latest nightly build available that way
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22:19:38  <PeterT> @devzone client patch pack
22:19:41  <Webster> Search - #openttdcoop Development Zone - http://dev.openttdcoop.org/search?q=client%20patch%20pack
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23:27:18  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: #openttdcoop - Bug #919 (New): Empty Logs <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/919>
23:31:44  <Ammler> hmm
23:32:21  <KenjiE20> mmh?
23:42:25  <Ammler> KenjiE20: my issue :-)
23:57:55  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: #openttdcoop - Bug #919 (Resolved): Empty Logs <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/919#change-2498" target="_blank">http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/919#change-2498> || #openttdcoop - Bug #919 (Resolved): Empty Logs <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/919>
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