Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 18th May 2010:
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00:26:05  <Brot6> Bundles Update: r170        2010-05-18   nml        nightlies (
00:26:05  <Brot6> nml: update from  to r170 done ( errors) -
00:26:08  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a update:
00:29:06  <Brot6> Bundles Update: r170        2010-05-18   nml        nightlies (
00:29:07  <Brot6> nml: update from r170
00:29:07  <Brot6>  to r170 done ( errors) -
00:29:09  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a update:
00:34:13  <Brot6> Bundles Update: r170        2010-05-18   nml        nightlies (
00:34:14  <Brot6> nml: update from r170
00:34:14  <Brot6>  to r170 done ( errors) -
00:34:16  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a update:
00:34:57  <PeterT> Ammler: I thought nicks with <1 characters couldn't register :-P
00:35:15  <Ammler> check "C" :-)
00:35:32  <PeterT> I know
00:35:36  <PeterT> that's why I am wondering
00:37:46  <Brot6> nml: update from r170
00:37:46  <Brot6>  to r170 done ( errors) -
00:37:49  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a update:
00:38:17  <Ammler> how do I remove newline, hmm
00:40:28  <Ammler> PeterT: C game the nick
00:40:32  <Ammler> gave*
00:49:27  <PeterT> Ammler: oh, that's nice of him
00:57:05  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a update: nml (r170)
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07:43:04  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: NFO Meta Language - Patch #928 (Resolved): allow unit percent <>
07:53:33  <Ammler> planetmaker: how would it build a ogfx+ nightly, same make as other grfs?
07:54:50  <planetmaker> yes
07:55:04  <planetmaker> if nml2nfo is found in the path
07:55:27  <planetmaker> otherwise you need to specify that explicitly in Makefile.local NML = path/to/nml2nfo
07:55:30  <Ammler> and the path is?
07:55:39  <Ammler> default path I mean
07:55:49  <planetmaker> that I don't know :-)
07:55:58  <Ammler> well, we will see...
07:56:01  <planetmaker> I don't set a path. I assume it is in the path
07:56:08  <planetmaker> like one assumes it with all executables
07:56:40  <planetmaker> for this purpose we could just add the NML path to the search path...
07:57:13  <Ammler> <-- working rpm is here :-)
07:57:49  <Ammler> I install that to the chroot and we have a nml2nfo in /usr/bin
08:02:13  <planetmaker> nice
08:02:26  <planetmaker> \o/
08:02:58  <Ammler> it is now fully chrooted and could build every type with the spec
08:03:26  <Ammler> I will add a special case for grfs so enabling those for compile isn't that hard
08:04:01  <Ammler>
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08:08:31  <Ammler> nml should have a README, also if it just contains some links :-)
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09:19:11  <planetmaker> oh, very nice :-)
09:19:26  <planetmaker> Yes, it needs a readme. It's on my internal, non-official todo list. But alas... time
09:19:52  <planetmaker> along with the howto, a short introduction / documentation of its syntax
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11:04:44  <Ammler>
11:06:54  <planetmaker> yeah, saw that
11:07:06  <planetmaker> I wondered about the naming of that dir - which is inconsistent
11:07:36  <Ammler> [13:05] <Ammler> shouldn't the path be something like 32bpp/megapack/nightlies
11:07:44  <planetmaker> The idea is to have all 32bpp stuff in that sub dir, both OpenTTD binary and ... yeah
11:08:03  <planetmaker> that looks more sane to me
11:08:08  <Ammler> I told him to join here
11:08:12  <Ammler> but he seems abset
11:08:16  <Ammler> n*
11:08:32  <Ammler> he also should write the finger :-)
11:08:43  <planetmaker> maybe we could rename it and make the current an alias for the time being?
11:09:25  <Ammler> [12:44] <Jupix> [11:52:04] any objections to hosting the dev version of the 32bpp autopack @ ottdcoop bundles?
11:09:27  <Ammler> [12:44] <Jupix> [11:53:31] also, any thoughts on how to go about doing scheduled cleanup of the directory?
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11:54:00  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: 2cc train set - Code Review #939 (Closed): r528 is a bad joke? <> || 2cc train set - Revision 529: fix: #939 <>
12:02:04  <planetmaker> hm, something's wrong with the devzone...
12:02:54  <planetmaker> err... r529 ???
12:03:10  <planetmaker> Ammler, ^
12:03:29  <planetmaker> I'm... speechless
12:03:44  <planetmaker> it's deleting the whole repo. I think we should rollback that
12:05:07  <planetmaker> I'm nearly tempted to revoke commit rights
12:05:49  <Ammler> omg
12:06:42  <planetmaker> I revoked commit rights and rolled back the commit
12:06:42  <Ammler> I thought, I was helping... :-(
12:07:20  <Ammler> revoked commit rights of?
12:07:25  <planetmaker> DJNekkid
12:07:29  <planetmaker> I moved his key to locked
12:07:34  <Ammler> hmm
12:07:40  <Ammler> it is his project...
12:08:02  <planetmaker> well, yes
12:08:10  <Ammler> you got it wrong
12:08:51  <planetmaker> ok, then added again
12:08:52  <Ammler> he reverted r528
12:09:00  <planetmaker> no. He removed everything
12:09:05  <planetmaker> EVERYTHING
12:09:17  <planetmaker> every file deleted
12:09:28  <Ammler> oh :-o
12:09:51  <Ammler> did you rollback?
12:09:54  <planetmaker> yes
12:10:28  <Ammler> I will give him some air, then I mail...
12:10:45  <planetmaker> I keep his key on locked. I'm anxious right now
12:11:05  <planetmaker> Feel free to move it back once you had a chat. I'll be offline mostly this afternoon
12:11:28  <planetmaker> But even by him I don't feel like accepting to wreak havoc on repos.
12:12:05  <Ammler> yes, sad.
12:12:14  <planetmaker> very much so. yes :-(
12:12:45  <Ammler> what is "squat"?
12:12:56  <planetmaker> "erschlagen"
12:14:07  <planetmaker> hm, not
12:14:09  <planetmaker> sorry
12:14:16  <planetmaker>
12:15:01  <planetmaker> do you contact him or shall I? I guess I shouldn't write now either.
12:15:23  <Ammler> well, I would wait unit the evening...
12:15:52  <Ammler> such things need to breath first :-)
12:16:12  <planetmaker> yes
12:16:21  <planetmaker> I fully agree
12:17:22  <Ammler> I thought, I do enough with complaining about bad commits ;-)
12:17:33  <planetmaker> :-)
12:17:40  <Ammler> and I can't fix missing files anyway
12:17:52  <planetmaker> My Makefile certainly didn't help with its non-descriptive error. Still...
12:18:14  <planetmaker> it's relatively easy to find out, by checking the rev which works and which doesn't
12:18:19  <planetmaker> and looking at the diff
12:19:06  <Ammler> the was people don't fix their repo either :-(
12:19:50  <planetmaker> I guess that's how it goes...
12:20:00  <planetmaker> but those people simply aren't around. They don't wreak havoc
12:20:03  <Ammler> IMO, building failure should be a urgent issue...
12:20:12  <planetmaker> of course it is
12:20:39  <Ammler> and that is the nightly compiler all about.
12:20:41  <planetmaker> maybe a revision of r528 wasn't needed to be tag'ed urgent, but still
12:20:52  <planetmaker> yes, full ack
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14:23:47  <planetmaker> Ammler, I sent an e-mail to DJN
14:23:52  <planetmaker> you got it CC
14:24:04  <planetmaker> hello Jupix
14:25:51  <Ammler> Jupix: I quote you:
14:25:56  <Ammler> [15:37] <Jupix> I think that would introduce some redundant nesting
14:25:58  <Ammler> [15:37] <Jupix> since there's nothing else going in that "megapack" directory
14:25:59  <Ammler> [15:38] <Jupix> if you insist, then sure, but otherwise I think a single level below 32bpp is fine
14:27:17  <Ammler> <-- you have standard and dev?
14:28:23  <Ammler> so we could make 32bpp/megapack/standard and 32bpp/megapack/dev
14:29:19  <Ammler> cleanup is indeed also a topic we need to care about anyway, what is your plan?
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15:54:59  <Ammler> planetmaker: I do commit something to ogfx+
15:55:16  <planetmaker> go right ahead
15:55:18  <planetmaker> what is it?
15:57:13  <Ammler> nightly build settings
15:57:49  <Ammler>
16:04:41  <Ammler> autsch :-)
16:04:49  <Ammler> need backup :-P
16:09:14  <Brot6> Bundles Update: 0        0   ogfxplus         (
16:13:36  <planetmaker> hm?
16:13:42  <Ammler> make: *** No rule to make target `Makefile.dep', needed by `depend'.  Stop.
16:13:52  <planetmaker> hm
16:13:53  <Ammler> does it build on your side
16:13:57  <Ammler> trying local
16:13:59  <planetmaker> let's see
16:15:10  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX+ - Revision 16: Devzone compiler settings for nightlies <>
16:15:12  <planetmaker> hm
16:15:51  <Ammler> maybe because it uses
16:16:06  <planetmaker> I need to install PIL, I guess...
16:16:12  <planetmaker> ImportError: No module named Image
16:16:19  <planetmaker> I thought I had it...
16:16:42  <Yexo> planetmaker: do you also get that error if you use --nfo outputfile.nfo and no --grf or -o ?
16:16:56  <Ammler> NML            ?=
16:16:58  <planetmaker> I didn't try
16:17:23  <Yexo> could you try? before installing pil?
16:17:33  <Yexo> and it it still fails if you do that, does fix it?
16:17:36  <Ammler> oh
16:17:55  <planetmaker> I will try
16:18:24  <Ammler> is pil required by nml?
16:18:48  <planetmaker> NML = ../nml/nml2nfo <--- @Ammler
16:18:48  <Brot6> opengfx: update from r<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">
16:18:49  <Brot6> <html><head>
16:18:49  <Brot6> <title>404 Not Found</title>
16:18:49  <Brot6> </head><body>
16:18:49  <Brot6> <h1>Not Found</h1>
16:18:50  <Brot6> <p>The requested URL /opengfx/nightlies/REV was not found on this server.</p>
16:18:52  <Brot6> <hr>
16:18:53  <planetmaker> might be that makefile needs fixing
16:18:55  <Brot6> <address>Apache/2.2.13 (Linux/SUSE) Server at Port 81</address>
16:18:57  <Brot6> </body></html> to r456 done (0 errors) -
16:19:01  <Brot6> openmsx: update from r53 to r54 done (0 errors) -
16:19:04  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a update: 2cctrainset (r528), 32bpp-extra (r33), airportsplus (r48), bros (r10), comic-houses (r69), firs (r833), fish (r364), heqs (r318), nmts (r15), nutracks (r59), opensfx (r88), snowlinemod (r10), worldairlineset (ERROR r637)
16:19:04  <Ammler> autsch :-)
16:19:04  <planetmaker> hm
16:19:45  <Ammler> mix of new and old system :-)
16:19:54  <Yexo> Ammler: for writing grf files it is, I plan to make it optional if you only want to write nfo files
16:21:32  <Ammler> [18:18] <planetmaker> NML = ../nml/nml2nfo <--- @Ammler <-- don't get that
16:21:51  <planetmaker> Ammler: you need to call nml2nfo not
16:21:53  <Ammler>
16:22:02  <Ammler> planetmaker: but you call
16:22:17  <planetmaker> wrongly, I guess. I use a Makefile.local. With what I pasted
16:23:06  <planetmaker> and probably forgot to update that piece when nml changed :-)
16:23:27  <Ammler> can I commit that change to the repo?
16:23:42  <Ammler> else I need to make a special build script just for it
16:23:52  <planetmaker> yes.. let me first test this PIL thing.
16:23:56  <planetmaker> That needs changing, yes
16:24:13  <planetmaker> no special build script should be needed. I fully agree
16:24:14  <Ammler> ok, I wait... :-)
16:25:09  <planetmaker> Yexo: then I get no complaint
16:25:39  <Yexo> planetmaker: with or without the patch?
16:25:45  <planetmaker> Yexo: with the patch
16:25:52  <Ammler> are you sure, it is pil, have no pil package
16:25:52  <planetmaker> then it seems to write an nfo
16:25:59  <Yexo> and without the patch but specifying --nfo file.nfo ?
16:26:08  <planetmaker> Yexo: same thing
16:26:18  <Yexo> same as in error?
16:26:24  <planetmaker> yes, as in error
16:26:30  <Ammler> maybe pil is part of another package here...
16:26:32  <Yexo> ok, thanks for testing :)
16:26:38  <planetmaker> you're welcome
16:26:49  <Yexo> Ammler: it might be called python-imaging or something like that
16:27:04  <planetmaker> Ammler: I'll need to change some other parts of the Makefile anyway. Ok, if I include that change there?
16:27:17  <planetmaker> the ->nml2nfo?
16:27:30  <Ammler> yes, of course
16:27:44  <planetmaker> good. I'm working on it right now
16:27:52  <planetmaker> there's no need to call grfcodec anymore :-)
16:28:05  <Ammler> he, no hurry, just ping me, when I can test again
16:28:22  <Ammler> hmm, I guess, I make a nml type compiler anyway...
16:28:41  <planetmaker> why something extra?
16:29:09  <Ammler> it is quite easy :-)
16:29:33  <Yexo> are "resolved" issues ment to show up when filtering for open issues?
16:29:55  <Ammler> resolved != closed
16:30:13  <Ammler> resolved does wait for closing comment
16:30:32  <Ammler> testing/confirming or whatever
16:30:33  <Yexo> ok
16:30:43  <Ammler> usually not needed :-)
16:31:49  <Ammler> if someone requests a feature, you implement it, you could then "resolve" it, the ticket opener could then confirm the feature and close
16:32:09  <Ammler> if he is manager/dev
16:32:55  <Ammler> the other possibility is to reopen
16:33:15  <planetmaker> hm... symlinking nml2nfo into /usr/bin doesn't yield the result I liked
16:34:13  <Yexo> planetmaker: the module nlm won't be found in that case
16:34:40  <planetmaker> I guess. But I do get a make[1]: /usr/bin/nml2nfo: No such file or directory - which puzzles me
16:34:50  <planetmaker> which clearly is not the case ;-)
16:35:15  <Ammler> chmod +x
16:35:16  <planetmaker> hm, I guess I know my error :-)
16:35:19  <planetmaker> not that
16:35:22  <planetmaker> relative paths
16:41:39  <planetmaker> ingo: ~/ottd/grfdev/ogfxplus> ../nml/nml2nfo sprites/ogfxplus.nml --grf ogfxplus.grf
16:42:06  <planetmaker> ingo: ~/ottd/grfdev/ogfxplus> ls -l *grf *nfo
16:42:08  <planetmaker> -rw-r--r--  1 ingo  staff  13302  3 Mai 09:48 ogfxplus.grf
16:42:09  <planetmaker> -rw-r--r--  1 ingo  staff   7019 18 Mai 18:39 ogfxplus.nfo
16:42:11  <planetmaker> ingo: ~/ottd/grfdev/ogfxplus> ls -l sprites/*grf sprites/*nfo
16:42:12  <planetmaker> ls: sprites/*grf: No such file or directory
16:42:14  <planetmaker> -rw-r--r--  1 ingo  staff  0  3 Mai 09:53 sprites/ogfxplus.nfo
16:42:17  <planetmaker> looks wrong to do nothing without any message
16:42:20  <planetmaker> ^ Yexo
16:43:21  <Yexo> that was with the no_pil.diff patch applied?
16:43:33  <planetmaker> Ammler: will it help if I just rename the NML command now to nml2nfo and play with the rest?
16:43:36  <planetmaker> Yexo: yes
16:43:43  <Yexo> ok, that was expected :)
16:43:53  <planetmaker> and still nothing installed ;-)
16:43:55  <Yexo> that patch was just to try if it worked
16:44:01  <planetmaker> ok
16:46:31  <Ammler> planetmaker: I thought I wait for you until I play around...
16:46:33  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: NFO Meta Language - Patch #928 (Closed): allow unit percent <>
16:46:48  <planetmaker> Ammler: no problem to do that separately.
16:46:54  <planetmaker> Then you can also play around ;-)
16:47:46  <planetmaker> any case: pushed
16:47:53  <planetmaker> it's a separate fix anyway
16:50:08  * planetmaker first installs PIL
16:50:18  <planetmaker> the package is called here py26-pil :-)
16:50:25  <planetmaker> alles pille-palle :-P
16:51:16  <planetmaker> hm
16:52:32  <planetmaker> nvm
16:53:17  <Ammler> is it ply or pil?
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16:54:28  <Ammler> ah, ply is something else, needed anyway
16:54:51  <planetmaker> yes
16:55:07  <planetmaker> ply is the lexical parser library
16:55:09  <planetmaker> IIRC
16:55:32  <Ammler> planetmaker: just pulled and still can't build locally
16:56:09  <planetmaker> well... it didn't work for me either... but I didn't install nml
16:56:11  <planetmaker> did you?
16:56:39  <planetmaker> it only works for me, if I give it the path to nml2nfo directly, not if I symlink or so
16:56:54  <planetmaker> but then I don#t want to need to install every rev of nml
16:57:12  <Ammler> Could not open "ogfxplus.nfo" specified on the command line.
16:57:25  <planetmaker> ?
16:58:49  <planetmaker> hm, actually it works here
16:58:51  <yorick> setuptools has this nice "develop" command which doesn't install, but creates a symlink
16:59:46  <planetmaker> yes. Just symlinking nml2nfo works now
17:00:05  <planetmaker> what fails is that grfcodec complains about wrong / missing nfo file. Which is expected
17:00:11  <planetmaker> I need to fix that now :-)
17:01:03  <Ammler> well, please ping me, if you think, it should be able to compile for the server
17:01:14  <planetmaker> k
17:01:38  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX+ - Revision 17: Fix / Change: nml is called by using nml2nfo and not anymore <>
17:04:47  <planetmaker> Ammler: ping
17:04:55  <planetmaker> :-)
17:07:17  <planetmaker> it was actually nearly a trivial change :-)
17:07:20  <planetmaker> which is quite nice
17:07:36  <planetmaker> and it made also the if then else logic of the conditional use of the Makefile a bit easier and nicer
17:16:48  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: Example NewGRF Project - Revision 90: Change: NML now produces grf files directly. Make use of th... <> || OpenGFX+ - Revision 18: Change / Fix: nml now writes grf directly. Make use of that and skip grfc... <>
17:33:18  <Brot6> Bundles Update: 0        0   ogfxplus        nightlies (
17:38:40  <Brot6> Bundles Update: 0        0   ogfxplus        nightlies (
17:39:13  <Brot6> nml: update from r170 to r171 done ( errors) -
17:39:29  <Brot6> ogfxplus: update from 0 to r18 done ( errors) -
17:39:31  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a update:
17:40:19  <Ammler> hmm :-)
17:47:42  <Yexo> installing python-2.6.2-6.3 / installing python-ply-2.5-5.1 / but no python-pil
17:48:02  <Ammler> hmm
17:48:23  <Yexo> and grfcodec/nforenum are not needed, but I suppose it's a general spec for all devzone packages?
17:51:48  <Brot6> Bundles Update: 0        0   ogfxplus        nightlies (
17:51:58  <Brot6> Bundles Update: 0        0   nml        nightlies (
17:52:25  <Brot6> nml: update from 0 to r171 done ( errors) -
17:52:53  <Brot6> ogfxplus: update from 0 to r18 done ( errors) -
17:52:55  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a update:
17:54:25  <Ammler> \o/
17:55:20  <planetmaker> :-) congrats and thanks, Ammler :-)
17:58:06  <Ammler> Yexo: added to the build script: "Requires:       python-ply python-imaging"
17:58:14  <Ammler> now it works
17:58:22  <Yexo> great :)
17:58:52  <Ammler>
17:59:06  <Ammler> there are still some warning, do I get those silent?
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18:00:42  <yorick> Ammler: at first, by making it use hashlib instead of md6
18:00:45  <yorick> md5*
18:00:56  <yorick> and at second, by getting Yexo to fix those unused tokens
18:01:21  <Yexo> the unusec tokens wil be fixed in time when those features are implemented
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18:02:10  <Yexo> the warning about md5 is in ply, so you'll have to ask the author of ply to update it
18:02:27  <yorick> you can include ply in NML too
18:02:30  <yorick> just 2 files
18:02:43  <andythenorth> evening
18:02:47  <yorick> evening
18:02:55  <yorick> Yexo: are these features spec'd anywhere?
18:03:38  <Yexo> no :)
18:03:49  <Yexo> random is for random action2s
18:04:03  <Yexo> I don't have plans for dot, it can probably be removed
18:04:05  <yorick> ternary open is a ? b : c ?
18:04:08  <Yexo> replacenewsprites is for action5
18:04:11  <Yexo> yes :)
18:04:17  <Yexo> ternary open is the '?' token
18:04:38  <yorick> but that's ugly :D
18:05:25  *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Webster
18:08:31  <Ammler> well, then it is fine, we have that way a "testproject" we can use to see such things :-)
18:09:17  <yorick> expression : expression TERNARY_OPEN expression COLON expression
18:09:30  <Yexo> yorick: yes
18:10:26  <yorick> but how would that be done in nfo
18:11:37  <Yexo> with action7/actionD it's easy, but it can also be done in a varaction2
18:14:27  <Yexo> is this clear enough?
18:17:33  * yorick is not really into nfo
18:18:32  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: NFO Meta Language - Revision 171: DevZone build system: python-ply, python-imaging is required <>
18:20:55  <yorick> model_life: 40; // years <-- hmm not nice
18:30:14  <frosch123> yup, there is no way to set the moon phase
18:32:19  <Yexo> yorick: any suggestions to improve it?
18:32:52  <yorick> Yexo: unit "years" maybe
18:32:58  <yorick> although that could also not be nice
18:33:36  <yorick> model_max_age or so?
18:35:02  <frosch123> that sounds like vehicle_max_age, which is something different
18:35:37  <Yexo> model_years-available?
18:36:42  <frosch123> is "model life" that bad, that it is a good idea to choose a different term than newgrf specs?
18:36:52  <frosch123> (and ottd/ttdp code)
18:36:58  <yorick> model life in what??
18:37:06  <Yexo> nah, you're right, model life if ok
18:37:44  <yorick> you could make it a unit if you add decade and century :p
18:39:02  <Yexo> or, far more useful, months
18:39:50  <yorick> that would be useful if it were actually not in the grf as years
18:41:38  <andythenorth> model life is fine
18:42:18  <andythenorth> in my happy world of verbose variables I might call it "model_life_expressed_in_years", but real programmers seem to find my ways strange :P
18:42:54  <Yexo> andythenorth: the problem with that kind of names is that computations tend to become unreadable
18:43:10  <andythenorth> yes indeed :)
18:46:31  <yorick> I've heard of people who like to use only the first three letters of the variable name they come up with
18:48:16  <yorick> which have things like tel = dat.loo('nam', nam)
18:48:51  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FISH - Revision 365: Add: source renders for medium mixed hovercraft <>
18:51:13  * andythenorth spent part of yesterday modifying minimised javascript
18:51:27  <andythenorth> such as (function(a){a.fn.liveFilter=function(d){var c=a(this);var g;if(a(this).is("ul"))
18:52:05  <andythenorth> two years of counting bytes in nfo has improved my tolerance for such things :P
18:52:15  <yorick> andythenorth: be happy they didn't do the base64 compression :P
18:52:39  <yorick> base62*
18:52:48  <planetmaker> frosch123: model_lifetime ?
18:55:26  <yorick> andythenorth: usually it's a bit smaller
19:21:55  <Hirundo> Yexo: Regarding the ternary operator, this might be easier:
19:22:30  <Yexo> yes, ineed :)
19:22:39  <Yexo> point was, it's possible to implement it in a varaction2 ;)
19:24:14  <Hirundo> Given it's near Turing completeness, that's no surprise :)
19:36:29  <frosch123> turing complete without loops :p
19:37:31  <planetmaker> should be added
19:37:41  <planetmaker> Then finally worms could be written in newgrf form
19:42:04  <Yexo> frosch123: loops are possible with action7/9 and action10
19:42:07  <Yexo> at least for some items
19:42:30  <frosch123> yeah, but not in varaction2, and i am very happy about that :)
19:42:49  <Yexo> ah, indeed :)
19:43:07  * andythenorth wrote a loop by accident in varact 2
19:43:14  <andythenorth> in the one place where it's possible
19:43:26  <frosch123> production callback :)
19:43:32  <andythenorth> "boom"
19:43:38  <frosch123> but it is not the only place
19:43:49  <frosch123> same holds for attach articulated vehicle
19:43:51  <Yexo> airports statemachine callback :)
19:43:53  <andythenorth> oh god there are more :P
19:44:09  <andythenorth> the articulated vehicle loop ends eventually IIRC?
19:44:19  <frosch123> vehicle cargo suffix
19:44:22  <Yexo> yes, after 128 parts I think
19:44:26  <andythenorth> I've accidentally created a very long snake-like vehicle :)
19:44:32  <planetmaker> lol
19:44:40  <planetmaker> you know the game snakes?
19:44:44  <andythenorth> yup
19:44:46  <planetmaker> we could play that then ;-)
19:44:56  <planetmaker> just a bit of newgrf logic :-P
19:45:18  <frosch123> reminds me, dbset triggers the infinite loop in cargo suffix callback
19:45:22  <planetmaker> callback when passing station or so. Increase length by one
19:45:48  <frosch123> andythenorth: the limit was 16 once, but someone complained that that was too few
19:45:58  <andythenorth> it is
19:46:05  <andythenorth> but not by much :P
19:47:46  <andythenorth> this is a 'mixed' hovercraft (refit to any cargo including PAX)....wonder what the loaded state for freight cargo should be?
19:47:46  <andythenorth>
19:49:54  <andythenorth>  crates I guess....a 20' container sprite doesn't fit
19:51:52  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: FISH - Revision 367: Change: progess on Medium Mixed Hovercraft <> || FISH - Revision 366: Add: source psd for Medium Mixed Hovercraft <>
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21:27:16  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a update: nml (r171), ogfxplus (r18)
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21:53:22  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Revision 457: DevZone: enable new compiler for nightlies <>
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21:59:40  <Brot6> opengfx: update from r456 to r457 done ( errors) -
21:59:42  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a update: nml (r171), ogfxplus (r18)
22:16:13  <Ammler> hmm, silly
22:17:08  <PeterT> hmm
22:17:13  <PeterT> Ammler: there you are
22:17:17  <PeterT> read my Pm
22:17:20  <PeterT> it's important
22:30:54  <Ammler> since when is opengfx gone?
22:31:21  <PeterT> what do you mean?
22:31:22  <PeterT> gone?
22:36:07  <Rubidium> I'd say, somewhere in the range of 30 to 45 minutes?
22:43:37  <Ammler> I guess, with my compiler change
22:43:58  <Ammler> uploading backup is ugly slow :-)
23:10:20  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: #openttdcoop - Revision 47: Add compiler source <> || OpenTTD-GUI - Revision 15189: - Change: Make the 'heightmap' button aware whether a heightmap was... <>
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23:26:40  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenMSX - Revision 55: Feature: 'Chugga Chugga Cha-ching' by imuh3 <> || OpenTTD-GUI - Revision 15190: - Change: Remove one include and explain how we determine whether a... <>
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23:58:44  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenTTD-GUI - Revision 15225: Merge with trunk r19850 <> || OpenTTD-GUI - Revision 15224: - Cleanup: Re-order widget definitions and remove unused ones <>

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