Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 19th May 2010:
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04:15:24  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenTTD-GUI - Revision 15226: - Fix: tabs slipped in on empty lines <>
04:31:27  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenTTD-GUI - Revision 15227: - Fix: More whitespace even <>
04:34:54  <Rubidium> that looks like a short night
05:08:04  <planetmaker> yeah
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10:47:16  <Ammler> <Rubidium> [06:34:54] that looks like a short night <-- same for you :-)
11:02:33  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: 2cc train set - Code Review #939: r528 is a bad joke? <>
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11:17:47  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: World Airliners Set - Revision 639: Fixed flashing issue with JAT 737 <> || World Airliners Set - Revision 638: Coded new liveries <>
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12:03:48  <Ammler> :-o
12:04:02  <Ammler> bitbucket has patch queue support for svn repos
12:06:57  <Ammler> mäh, ignore me :-)
12:30:44  <planetmaker> I wouldn't like to ignore you. Do I have to?
12:32:11  <Rubidium> planetmaker: only if you're named "mäh"
12:43:08  <Ammler> I got confused by someone using "svn" as username
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14:38:26  <Hirundo> Yexo: IDs are now defined as raw strings, wouldn't it be better to define a wrapper class around it?
14:39:08  <Yexo> yes, indeed
14:40:36  <Hirundo> Then we could also e.g. reduce the ugly beast reduce_expr to member functions of Expression
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14:49:58  <Hirundo> hmmm... base class Expr was silently removed when moving to ?
14:55:58  <Yexo> it was never uesd
14:56:04  <Yexo> but feel free to reintroduce it
14:56:29  <Yexo> only a few class were a subclass of it before, so it was pointless
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15:08:58  <Hirundo> Variable(*t[3]) <- what does the asterisk do?
15:12:49  <Yexo> t[3] is a list, *t[3] expands the list as arguments
15:13:24  <Hirundo> ok, thanks
15:14:57  <Hirundo> There is no difference between '1 : 2;' and '1 : return 2' in a switch block, right?
15:25:12  <Yexo> 1: 2; is invalid
15:25:26  <Yexo> at least I think so
15:26:34  <Yexo> yep, you can use "1 : some_action2_id" or "1 : return number"
15:37:01  <Hirundo> You're right
15:38:25  <Hirundo> But 'expr : string SEMICOLON' works like a return, doesn't it?
15:40:00  <Yexo> hmm, yes
15:40:09  <Yexo> but I think that doesn't work at all currently
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16:18:23  <Brot6> fish: update from r364 to r367 done (1 errors) -
16:19:07  <Brot6> opengfx: update from r456 to r457 done (0 errors) -
16:19:12  <Brot6> openmsx: compile completely failed! :-( -
16:19:30  <Brot6> worldairlineset: compile completely failed! :-( -
16:19:31  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a update: 2cctrainset (r528), 32bpp-extra (r33), airportsplus (r48), bros (r10), comic-houses (r69), firs (r833), heqs (r318), nmts (r15), nutracks (r59), opensfx (r88), snowlinemod (r10)
16:22:50  <planetmaker> hm, what did I do to OpenMSX?
16:23:23  <planetmaker> obviously the usual error :S
16:23:41  <planetmaker> commit without add. Meh
16:29:04  <andythenorth> what is my FISH error :P
16:32:25  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: World Airliners Set - Revision 640: Fixed EasyJet file name issue. Improved numerous A320 sprites. <>
16:36:34  <Ammler> autsch, forgot to disable the old compiler again :-)
16:57:10  <planetmaker> :-)
16:58:59  <planetmaker> there are worse things than two compile runs ;-)
16:59:33  <Ammler> well, I have to debug why yesterday compile removed the whole opengfx bundle
16:59:48  <planetmaker> :-O It really _removed_ it?
17:00:05  <planetmaker> the bundle? the repo? some / all nightlies?
17:00:39  <Ammler> yes, EVERYTHING
17:00:53  <Ammler> well, I upload backups...
17:02:09  <planetmaker> ui...
17:02:16  <planetmaker> that's rough behaviour ;-)
17:02:43  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenMSX - Revision 56: Fix (r55): Actually add what you promise to add. <>
17:03:25  <Ammler> well, my upload is ugly slow :-)
17:03:44  <Ammler> specially as I have torrrent upload running...
17:04:21  <planetmaker> hm
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17:06:02  <Ammler> <-- is that ok?
17:06:23  <Ammler> or would you split the files to make the interesting "zip" more obvious?
17:07:12  <Ammler>
17:08:02  <planetmaker> :-) nice
17:08:13  <planetmaker> hm, splitting or separating zip and the others
17:08:29  <planetmaker> I'm undecided. _I_ know how to treat or read such list as is.
17:08:38  <planetmaker> Obviously not everyone does, though
17:08:45  <Ammler> hmm, also you should maybe change "naming scheme"
17:08:56  <planetmaker> why?
17:09:16  <Ammler> <name>-<version>-<branch_and_whatever>.<extension>
17:09:41  <Ammler> not branch but type
17:09:47  <Ammler> e.g. "nightlies"
17:10:25  <planetmaker> it follows exactly the OpenTTD scheme ""
17:10:29  <Ammler> oh well...
17:10:35  <planetmaker> only that I call it nightly instead of trunk
17:10:49  <Ammler> trunk is the branch
17:11:01  <Ammler> nightly is more a type of release
17:11:26  <Ammler> not really important, was just a loud thought of me :-)
17:11:33  <planetmaker> hm...
17:11:49  <planetmaker> you're right, but I'm not sure whether we should change the naming scheme
17:12:06  <planetmaker> for other branches than the current trunk, I'd agree
17:12:06  <Ammler> I also not sure, if "nightly" is good there
17:13:37  <planetmaker> well. Make a ticket about that :-)
17:14:04  <planetmaker> I have to think about that; I'm rather reluctant and conservative to change such things. And it's not really that urgent right now :-)
17:14:19  <planetmaker> urgent is rather the ugly dep check :S
17:14:37  <Ammler> yeah, of course
17:15:03  <Ammler> it just doesn't match build script
17:15:05  <planetmaker> But just add a ticket to the newgrf-gui with a proposal :-) Exactly OpenTTD standard with trunk?
17:15:13  <planetmaker> it doesn't match build script?
17:15:19  <planetmaker> which one?
17:15:35  <Ammler> e.g. from suse
17:15:38  <Ammler> (rpm)
17:15:43  <planetmaker> I guess there are many different naming conventions. Each distro has its own there.
17:15:50  <Ammler> not really
17:16:09  <Ammler> well, I am not aware of, but again, not important...
17:16:34  <planetmaker> don't worry, I won't commit a 'delete all' ;-)
17:16:51  <Ammler> :-P
17:17:45  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenTTD-GUI - Revision 15228: - Codechange: Deduplicate a bit code by moving the plane switch ope... <>
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19:26:46  <PeterT> Ammler: can I get the one-tf patch please?
19:28:41  <PeterT> also, LOL
19:32:00  <yorick> AMMLER
19:32:04  <yorick> WTG
19:32:05  <yorick> WTF*
19:32:29  <yorick> dee da dee da dee daa dee
19:33:03  <PeterT> see also
19:33:18  <PeterT>
19:35:51  <Ammler> where you get that url?
19:38:40  <PeterT> I was looking for your pat h
19:38:43  <PeterT> patch, even
19:38:52  <PeterT> and I looked in possible places
19:39:06  <PeterT> first I looked in
19:39:10  <PeterT> first I looked in
19:39:17  <PeterT> then*
19:39:25  <PeterT> then I looked in
19:39:34  <PeterT> then I looked in
19:39:40  <PeterT> *finally
19:48:55  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Bug #942: Profit icons are too similar to "moving" icon <" target="_blank">> || OpenGFX - Bug #942 (New): Profit icons are too similar to "moving" icon <>
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21:02:38  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a update: nml (r171), ogfxplus (r18), opengfx (r457)
21:18:48  <Brot6> openmsx: update from r53 to r57 done -
21:18:50  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a update: nml (r171), ogfxplus (r18), opengfx (r457)
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21:40:13  <Brot6> openmsx: update from r53 to r57 done -
21:40:16  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a update: nml (r171), ogfxplus (r18), opengfx (r457)
21:45:58  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a update: nml (r171), ogfxplus (r18), opengfx (r457), openmsx (r57)
21:49:31  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a update: nml (r171), ogfxplus (r18), opengfx (r457)
21:52:08  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Bug #942: Profit icons are too similar to "moving" icon <" target="_blank">> || OpenGFX - Bug #942 (Confirmed): Profit icons are too similar to "moving" icon <" target="_blank">> || OpenGFX - Bug #942 (Confirmed): Profit icons are too similar to "moving" icon <>
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22:04:18  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a update: nml (r171), ogfxplus (r18), opengfx (r457)
22:04:49  <Ammler> sorry for the spam :-(
22:07:28  <planetmaker> Ammler: we have no disk space anymore
22:07:36  <planetmaker> 100% disk usage
22:07:38  <Ammler> hehe
22:07:47  <planetmaker> we need to do something about that
22:07:55  <Ammler> try again :-P
22:08:31  <planetmaker> well, ok
22:08:36  <planetmaker> not much, though :-)
22:08:46  <planetmaker> we really need a bigger, a root server, I guess :-)
22:08:59  <Ammler> there is a lot crap on that box
22:09:01  <planetmaker> but ok, that's enough for now. I need sleep
22:09:03  <Ammler> for example /Backup
22:09:06  <planetmaker> yeah
22:09:36  <planetmaker> I wonder whether we need the 1.2G locate db.
22:09:50  <Ammler> I like it
22:10:06  <Rubidium> just ditch the compiled binaries of the nightlies after a few months (like OpenTTD does)
22:10:11  <Ammler> locate is a lot faster than find or whatever
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22:10:34  <planetmaker> Ammler: I like it, too. But it should not be the cause for a server blockage ;-)
22:10:42  <Ammler> it wasn't
22:10:44  <Ammler> I was
22:10:47  <planetmaker> :-P
22:10:59  <Rubidium> 1.2G is alarmingly huge though
22:11:38  <Ammler> also there are a lot different distro chroots in /home/obs...
22:11:47  <Ammler> which could go...
22:12:27  <Rubidium> or at least excluded from locate
22:12:51  <planetmaker> hm, yeah
22:13:50  <Ammler> delete the chroots
22:14:04  <Ammler> deleting*
22:14:11  <planetmaker> well, you use them, do you?
22:14:24  <planetmaker> is it not rather worth to move the backup elsewhere? it's a whopping 16G
22:14:39  <Ammler> yes, that might be worth to delete
22:14:43  <Ammler> it is now half a year
22:14:45  <Rubidium> even so, I've got roughly 1.8 million lines in locate '*' which causes a 54 MiB file
22:14:59  <Rubidium> @calc 1.2*1024/54*1.8
22:14:59  <Webster> Rubidium: 40.96
22:15:11  <Ammler> Rubidium: I guess, planetmaker was refering another file
22:15:23  <Ammler> named cache maybe?
22:15:37  <Rubidium> so you'd have 40 million files on your disk or something
22:15:48  <planetmaker> Ammler: I meant var/lib/updatedb
22:16:21  <planetmaker> sorry
22:16:22  <Ammler> 25MB
22:16:33  <planetmaker>  /var/lib/locatedb
22:16:36  <Rubidium> I've looked at /var/lib/mlocate
22:17:10  * Rubidium wonders what Ammler's 25MB is about. The actual size of that file?
22:17:20  <Ammler> yes
22:17:37  <planetmaker> hm.. yes... I'm too tired. It's not that big. I mis-read
22:17:39  <planetmaker> 25MB
22:18:44  <planetmaker> btw, Rubidium : I turned on desync debug again on stable. Today there were 5 desyncs. I asked one and he claimed to use vanilla binary from the official download page
22:20:30  <planetmaker> but as there's nothing immediate to fix now anymore, I'll hit the bed. Have a good night you two (and all others,too)
22:20:46  <Rubidium> huh, didn't Ammler turn desync debugging on before that?
22:20:52  <Rubidium> or did it get disabled again?
22:21:00  <planetmaker> it wasn't. Maybe re-start of server or so
22:21:53  <planetmaker> oh. it was...
22:21:57  <planetmaker> I'm really too tired
22:22:04  <planetmaker> so yes, the data should even be there
22:23:16  <planetmaker> 20:15 and 20:49 were the two events, three player and two player respectively
22:24:09  <Ammler> Gute Nacht planetmaker :-)
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23:59:07  <Webster> Latest update from devactivity: OpenGFX - Bug #942: Profit icons are too similar to "moving" icon <>

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