Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 13th June 2010:
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07:45:45  <Brot6> OpenTTD-GUI - Revision 15343:f68564fc67f5: (svn r19967) -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: (translators) @
07:45:46  <Brot6> OpenTTD-GUI - Revision 15344:a9f2d0977ed9: (svn r19968) -Fix [FS#3876](r19955): the 'list of ship... (SmatZ) @
07:45:46  <Brot6> OpenTTD-GUI - Revision 15345:a9b892d0bf4a: (svn r19969) -Change: swap 'list of ships' and 'list o... (SmatZ) @
07:45:47  <Brot6> OpenTTD-GUI - Revision 15346:e6e789790783: Merge: Update to trunk r19969 (planetmaker) @
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09:13:42  <Alberth> when trying to download the dutchdj.grf from, my browser thinks it is a HTML file :p
09:14:35  <Ammler> and the problem is?
09:14:53  <Alberth> last time I checked, a .grf file is not html text
09:15:18  <Ammler> yes, but does that matter on download?
09:15:37  <Alberth> ie, it should be served as binary data
09:16:06  <Alberth> what does HTTP say about newline handling of text files?
09:16:22  <Alberth>  <-- link at the projects overview page
09:16:30  <Alberth> which gives 'internal error'
09:17:28  <Alberth>  <-- this page
09:19:09  <Ammler> then it isn't just
09:19:40  <Ammler> the patch has it's bugs
09:19:47  <Ammler> -'
09:20:52  <planetmaker> https doesn't work?
09:21:21  <Ammler> nothing to do with https, does it?
09:21:38  <Alberth> no, http:// ...  also fails
09:22:08  <Ammler> it is something with the hg patches
09:22:35  <Ammler> the old redmine is still available at
09:22:43  <planetmaker> ah, yes...
09:23:04  <planetmaker> he... the "old" redmine under the URL "new..."? ;-)
09:23:30  <Alberth> that looks like a different link
09:25:09  <Ammler> the old redmine doesn't have hash support or tags/branches
09:26:00  <Alberth> at , there is a NewGRFs header, below it are several  links directly under it, including "Dutch" that points to the broken link   (it gives 'internal error' when clicking at it).  Below "Dutch" is the Dutch Train Set and the Dutch Station Set
09:26:32  <Ammler> Alberth: confirmed ;-)
09:27:08  <Ammler> I will report it, you think, I should change back to the old redmine?
09:31:45  <Alberth> There is only a broken link?
09:32:11  <Alberth> if so, then going back seems a bit drastic
09:34:26  <Ammler> well, switching the versions isn't really complicated, as you see we still run both versions
10:10:21  <Brot6> NFO Meta Language - Revision 292:0e6e28a0a5fa: Add: Townnames regression test. (Alberth) @
10:13:39  <planetmaker> Rubidium: <-- interesting for OpenSFX?
10:13:40  <Webster> Title: Absolute Sound Effects Archive (at
10:13:50  <planetmaker> Free for private AND commercial use. No questions asked
10:14:03  <planetmaker> ^ also @ andythenorth
10:14:06  <planetmaker> Farm sounds :-)
10:14:18  <planetmaker> and DJNekkid train sounds ;-)
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10:59:45  <DJNekkid> sounds? what? where?
11:05:14  <SmatZ> @seen Rubidium
11:05:14  <Webster> SmatZ: Rubidium was last seen in #openttdcoop.devzone 6 days, 16 hours, 13 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: <Rubidium> ~2 weeks
11:07:04  <planetmaker> <-- DJNekkid
11:07:05  <Webster> Title: Absolute Sound Effects Archive (at
11:08:25  <planetmaker> <- I want those sounds. But I don't really find contact info
11:08:26  <Webster> Title: TRAIN SOUNDS (at
11:08:28  <planetmaker> :-(
11:10:28  <Ammler> whois the domain
11:11:34  <Ammler> Mallery, Timothy
11:12:10  <Ammler> "good" webadmins don't need to hide whois infos ;-)
11:12:54  <Ammler> that seems a European behavior
11:13:52  <planetmaker> yes, but the domain owner is not the file creator
11:14:38  <planetmaker> "This is an archived copy of Thomas Ehrenreich's Railroad Extra Website
11:14:39  <planetmaker> It is no longer being maintained..."
11:17:18  <Ammler> well, you could still ask him
11:17:22  <Ammler> maybe he can help you
12:55:43  <frosch123> SmatZ: isn't rubidium in andorra or so?
12:59:12  <planetmaker> he said to be travelling
12:59:22  <planetmaker> returning on 18th to NL
13:00:22  <frosch123> i know when he returns, but i do not know when he wanted to leave :)
13:00:23  <SmatZ> I don't know where he is :)
13:00:35  <SmatZ> but the fact I haven't seen him for few days is disturbing
13:00:53  <planetmaker> yep, it is :-)
13:03:44  <Ammler> Rubidium: is still here
13:03:58  <Ammler> he just does ignore you
13:04:08  <planetmaker> :-P
13:09:45  <Alberth> didn't he have a 10 days travel pass? Since he returns at the 18th, he probably left at the 8th or 9th
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13:32:05  <SmatZ> :)
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16:18:44  <Brot6> firs: update from r905 to r906 done (2 errors) -
16:19:15  <Brot6> fish: update from r372 to r375 done (1 errors) -
16:19:50  <Ammler> is andythenorth the only working guy?
16:20:13  <Brot6> nml: update from r290 to r292 done -
16:20:19  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r545), 32bpp-extra (r36), airportsplus (r50), bros (r12), comic-houses (r70), heqs (r320), newgrf_makefile (ERROR r99), nmts (r16), nutracks (r69), ogfxplus (r27), opengfx (r459), openmsx (r57), opensfx (r94), snowlinemod (r12), swedishrails (r25), test (ERROR r47), worldairlinersset (r643)
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17:44:38  <Brot6> guimq - Revision 0:c31882daeed3: Add: Widgets for tabs (planetmaker) @
17:44:38  <Brot6> guimq - Revision 1:c26e6a46779e: Change: Use a tab widget in the newgame window (planetmaker) @
17:49:07  <Ammler> planetmaker: you should store the mq in .hg/patches also serverside
17:49:13  <Ammler> so someone can qclone
17:54:03  <Ammler> if you clone trunk serverside, it doesn't need any disk space
18:24:45  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 907:cb5b0d9ff092: Add: Add parameters for map size and m... (planetmaker) @
18:26:48  <planetmaker> Ammler: I don't understand. What should I add?
18:27:18  <planetmaker> the openttd-gui-mq is the repo of the patches
18:27:30  <planetmaker> e.g. it is the hg repo in openttd-gui/patches
18:27:58  <Ammler> oh, it isn't mq to trunk?
18:28:13  <planetmaker> it is a mq to trunk
18:30:01  <Ammler> then I would clone trunk and put the mq there
18:30:37  <Ammler> hg clone trunk guimq
18:30:53  <Ammler> and your patches to guimq/.hg/patches
18:33:39  <planetmaker> hm
18:35:07  <Ammler> :-)
18:35:16  <Ammler> what an answer :-P
18:35:33  <planetmaker> :-)
18:36:05  <planetmaker> but it would break the rule that one can just clone the default URL for a project
18:36:16  <Ammler> he?
18:36:38  <Ammler> you can quite easy clone the queue a lone
18:36:42  <Ammler> alone*
18:37:10  <Ammler> either qclone
18:37:17  <planetmaker> like hg clone . ?
18:37:28  <Ammler> or clone
18:38:06  <Ammler> that is how handles
18:38:09  <planetmaker> there must have been a goal
18:38:18  <Ammler> goal?
18:38:43  <planetmaker> in the football game germany-australia
18:38:58  <planetmaker> there was suddenly a loud noise from everywhere ;-)
18:39:07  <Ammler> oh, you don't watch?
18:39:10  <planetmaker> :-)
18:39:35  <planetmaker> I forgot to activate the livestream ;-)
18:40:40  <planetmaker> yes, there was one :-)
18:41:15  <planetmaker> ah... good idea to up the quality settings for the stream :-)
19:08:20  <planetmaker> Ammler: what is then now the advantage to be able to use hg qclone?
19:08:52  <Ammler> then you clone trunk with the patches
19:09:21  <planetmaker> and how does that trunk get updated?
19:09:29  <Ammler> planetmaker: how should someone else work with your queue?
19:09:42  <planetmaker> clone the queue in a repo?
19:09:43  <Ammler> planetmaker: by you or by a script
19:10:10  <Ammler> for instance with tagging
19:10:40  <Ammler> or with a file like we have in the is2-patches
19:11:18  <planetmaker> hm, so basically it means: I clone a trunk to where the patches are now
19:11:24  <planetmaker> and then create a patches dir there
19:11:39  <Ammler> yep, or you qclone your local repo
19:11:58  <Ammler> hmm, no
19:12:12  <Ammler> it would be better to clone our trunk repo
19:12:28  <Ammler> so we don't waste diskspace
19:13:24  <planetmaker> it's limited anyway
19:13:36  <Ammler> limited?
19:13:55  <Ammler> well, I suggest it so you can test how it would work :-)
19:14:09  <planetmaker> the disc space on our server
19:14:45  <Ammler> well, the repo uses around 80MB, that doesn't really count
19:16:33  <planetmaker> what's the adv. then cloning the server repo over just qcloning my whole dir?
19:17:23  <Ammler> well, I would need to clone trunk and your queue seperately
19:17:44  <Ammler> with qclone, I could do that at once
19:19:19  <planetmaker> I'm just qcloning my dir
19:21:02  <Ammler> yes :-)
19:22:30  <planetmaker> the trunk repo should receive daily updates IMHO
19:22:46  <Ammler> it does update daily already
19:23:23  <Ammler>
19:23:42  <planetmaker> yes... but... then I'm doing it now wrong with a new copy ;-)
19:24:03  * andythenorth wonders if it's time for some advanced varact 2
19:24:08  <andythenorth> maybe in a bit
19:24:11  <Ammler> that is why I suggested cloning it serverside
19:24:17  <Ammler> but it doesn't really matter
19:25:23  <Ammler> we thought about a script which does update the repo and apply the series with tagging
19:25:29  <planetmaker> how would cloning it server side changed it?
19:25:47  <Ammler> a serverside clone of trunk is only around 1MB
19:25:59  <Ammler> thanks to links
19:27:10  <planetmaker> can that be fixed?
19:27:19  <Ammler> what need to be fixed?
19:27:33  <planetmaker> the clone of the repo :-)
19:27:40  <Ammler> do we care about +-80MB?
19:27:49  <planetmaker> I don't see how it would make a difference, if I cloned it server-side
19:28:03  <Ammler> just do it, you will see :-)
19:29:30  <Ammler> hmm, did you remove your patch queue?
19:30:05  <planetmaker> I renamed the old dir
19:30:10  <planetmaker> I didn't yet remove it
19:32:31  <Ammler> 94M     trunk
19:32:33  <Ammler> 488K    trunk.clone1
20:13:37  <Brot6> OpenTTD-GUI-PatchQueue - Revision 0:c31882daeed3: Add: Widgets for tabs (planetmaker) @
20:13:37  <Brot6> OpenTTD-GUI-PatchQueue - Revision 1:c26e6a46779e: Change: Use a tab widget in the newgame window (planetmaker) @
20:14:14  <Ammler> planetmaker: not what I meant :-P
20:14:34  <planetmaker> hm, might be old info
20:15:29  <Ammler> and AGAIN, the name of a project doesn't need to be like the repo or identifier
20:16:28  <Brot6> NFO Meta Language - Revision 288:092d12fa71ae: Codechange: Import action1 module. (Alberth) @
20:16:28  <Brot6> NFO Meta Language - Revision 289:0b7a0ba23a67: Codechange: Import action10 module. (Alberth) @
20:16:41  <planetmaker>
20:16:56  <Alberth> ?
20:17:20  <planetmaker> ^  Better, Ammler ?
20:17:49  <Alberth> Brot6 is a bit slow, apparently :)
20:17:55  <Ammler> pm, yes :-)
20:18:04  <planetmaker> it just wasn't updated there yet
20:18:31  <planetmaker> and Brot gave the news... somewhat late :-)
20:18:58  <Ammler> Alberth: that is still the same issue
20:18:59  <planetmaker> or it got the news in a way I don't understand
20:19:17  <Ammler> news?
20:20:29  <planetmaker> repo updates
20:20:53  <planetmaker> when it broadcast it, I didn't update the repo yet and was just about to rectify that
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20:43:16  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 908:91c4d0136cc0: Fix: map cluster parameter now calcula... (andythenorth) @
20:44:51  <Brot6> OpenTTD-GUI-PatchQueue - Revision 0:c31882daeed3: Add: Widgets for tabs (planetmaker) @
20:44:51  <Brot6> OpenTTD-GUI-PatchQueue - Revision 1:c26e6a46779e: Change: Use a tab widget in the newgame window (planetmaker) @
20:46:24  <Ammler> hmmhmmm
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21:30:40  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 909:1240d19bb37c: Feature: clustering scales by map size... (andythenorth) @
21:30:40  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 910:c1d4fe1eb728: Change: updated comment on map cluster... (andythenorth) @
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22:29:23  <Brot6> NFO Meta Language - Feature #1008: verify that the program using the generated grf is new enough (yexo) @
22:42:23  <Brot6> NFO Meta Language - Bug #993 (Closed): module md5 is deprecated (yexo) @
22:44:39  <Brot6> NFO Meta Language - Feature #984: regression test (yexo) @
22:59:33  <Brot6> NFO Meta Language - Bug #985: conditional expressions (yexo) @
23:04:25  <Brot6> NFO Meta Language - Feature #983: changes to handling expressions (yexo) @
23:12:07  <Brot6> NFO Meta Language - Feature #963: Real action2 for industries (production callback) (yexo) @

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