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06:59:09 <Brot6> #openttdcoop - Support #144: Tag will automatically create a release bundle (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/144#change-2721 07:56:02 *** Webster has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:59:31 <Rubidium> attack of the typo! 07:59:44 <Rubidium> "parameter 1 wet to 3" 08:02:11 <planetmaker> damn 08:07:58 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 87:00b8f381ee31: Fix: Typo in the docs. Parameters really wet themselves (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/swedishrails/repository/revisions/00b8f381ee31 08:30:32 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Feature #922: menu bar: save/load and statistics (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/922#change-2722 08:31:25 *** Alberth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:34:36 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:36:02 <Ammler> planetmaker: also the 2nd parameter is a bit confusing, why is 0 year 1975? 08:36:15 <planetmaker> default 08:36:28 <planetmaker> so if one doesn't want to change it, use 0 08:36:30 <Ammler> you can set default to something else then 0 08:36:45 <planetmaker> yes. default usage is 1975 08:36:54 <planetmaker> but if the parameter is 0, 1975 is assumed 08:37:25 <Ammler> so if I like to use 1980, I need to set 5 as parameter? 08:37:32 <planetmaker> no 08:37:33 <planetmaker> 1980 08:37:36 <Ammler> I would just use the year 08:37:54 <planetmaker> but if you want to set parameter 4, you don't have to worry about parameter 3 08:39:19 <planetmaker> so... obviously the documentation is not clear :-) 08:39:29 <planetmaker> It just really is only the year which needs to be given 08:40:00 <planetmaker> the only exception is that "0" is interpreted as 1975 08:40:14 <planetmaker> or as 5000000 08:40:25 <planetmaker> depending upon OpenTTD version 08:42:15 <Ammler> I would change default to 1975 08:42:43 <Ammler> and just convert 0 to 1975 in the code but not documented, at least not that verbose 08:44:13 <planetmaker> hm, ok 08:48:56 <Ammler> http://pastebin.com/UYS5Daxj 08:52:20 <planetmaker> hm 08:52:32 <Ammler> I have a file called swedishrails.grf.nfo 08:53:41 <Ammler> oh, I need to update nml 08:53:57 <planetmaker> hm. but still... the source is not as it should be 08:54:01 <planetmaker> the source bundle 08:57:16 <Ammler> from nml or swr? 08:58:00 <planetmaker> I don't ship the lang dir 08:58:04 <planetmaker> as such building fails 08:58:57 <Ammler> oh :-) 08:59:53 <planetmaker> but otherwise everything builds fine 09:00:29 <Ammler> yes, it does, after rpm -Uhv http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/r499/nml-r499-suse1120.noarch.rpm 09:13:31 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:19:32 <planetmaker> Ammler: what would happen, if I re-tag 0.4.0, so that bundle_src gets built correctly? 09:19:38 <planetmaker> would the CF build it anew? 09:21:10 <Ammler> could you try :-) 09:21:18 <planetmaker> :-D 09:21:41 <Ammler> it does compare hashes to retrigger 09:22:42 <Ammler> but actually I didn't test that case 09:23:45 <planetmaker> ok, I will 09:28:31 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 88:1abea6861e27: Doc: Clarify documentation of depot introduction year p... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/swedishrails/repository/revisions/1abea6861e27 09:28:31 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 89:10cb3737dfe7: Fix: [Makefile] Also ship the language dir (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/swedishrails/repository/revisions/10cb3737dfe7 09:30:49 <planetmaker> let's see 09:31:36 <Brot6> swedishrails: update from 0.4.0 to 0.4.0 done (2 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/swedishrails/releases/0.4.0 09:32:12 <planetmaker> seems to work :-) 09:32:40 <planetmaker> nice 09:32:44 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 90:3482f4e160d9: Added tag 0.4.0 for changeset 10cb3737dfe7 (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/swedishrails/repository/revisions/3482f4e160d9 09:33:38 <Ammler> the reason I compare hashes was for failed bundles 09:33:45 <planetmaker> :-) 09:33:50 <Ammler> nice, it works that way too :-) 09:34:40 <Ammler> but it should be said, that such update shouldn't be done after annoucement 09:36:10 <planetmaker> well, yes. 09:36:20 <planetmaker> The grf didn't change 09:36:35 <Ammler> ah ok 09:36:42 <Ammler> same md5sum there? 09:36:44 <planetmaker> yes 09:36:51 <planetmaker> otherwise I would not have gone for it 09:38:10 <planetmaker> it's really only a slight change in the makefile which allows to ship the lang dir, too when using bundle_src 09:38:29 <Brot6> Example NewGRF Project - Revision 102:e3bae3dbc985: Fix: [NML] Also ship the lang dir within sour... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/newgrf-makefile/repository/revisions/e3bae3dbc985 09:38:42 <Ammler> well, we know it works, we just shouldn't make big advertisement with it ;-) 09:38:49 <planetmaker> definitely not 09:39:04 <planetmaker> "kids don't do this at home" ;-) 10:12:41 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:40:42 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature #967: Random action2 (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/967#change-2723 10:48:13 <Ammler> hmm, hook broken again 10:50:51 <planetmaker> the hook works for everyone? 11:11:28 <Ammler> it should :-( 11:12:50 <Ammler> this hook is installed: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/repository/entry/mercurial/hooks/check_commit.py 11:22:27 <Alberth> ./devzone/hooks/repo_checks.ini <--- shouldn't that be .devzone/hooks/repo_checks.ini ? 11:23:49 <Alberth> although that file may not exist atm 11:28:14 <Ammler> hm, true 11:28:50 <Ammler> yes, but I also included the global file 11:36:59 <Alberth> yes, those rules should be used 11:42:47 <Brot6> #openttdcoop - Revision 74:0e961d591fd3: [HG] Fix: wrong custom repo path (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/repository/revisions/0e961d591fd3 12:42:04 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 12:46:08 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:54:50 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 14:12:45 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 503:53dfd9c7c424: Feature [#967]: Dependent or independent random... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/53dfd9c7c424 14:25:58 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 14:53:26 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:57:40 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:18:32 <Brot6> newgrf_makefile: compile of r102 failed - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/newgrf_makefile/nightlies/ERROR/r102 16:19:12 <Brot6> nml: update from r499 to r503 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/r503 16:19:45 <Brot6> swedishrails: update from r84 to r90 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/swedishrails/nightlies/r90 16:19:47 <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r557), 32bpp-extra (r36), airportsplus (r50), bros (r12), comic-houses (r70), firs (r1010), fish (r375), heqs (r320), nmts (r16), nutracks (r69), ogfxplus (r32), opengfx (r461), openmsx (r57), opensfx (r94), snowlinemod (r12), worldairlinersset (r643) 16:46:12 <Ammler> planetmaker: ogfxplus does also fail on ttdpatch, but only with an error message on the status screen 16:46:22 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 16:51:55 <Ammler> just tested NML regression grfs, only Action8 succeeded 16:52:47 <Ammler> hmm, might be because of the same ID? 16:54:12 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:09:43 *** Webster has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:22:41 <Hirundo> Ammler: regression works for me 17:23:08 <Ammler> Hirundo: tested the grfs with ttdpatch 17:23:23 <Ammler> but those might fail because of missing Action8 17:23:39 <Hirundo> vehicle (006) has action8 as well IIRC 17:25:01 <Ammler> the grfs should have unique IDs :-) 17:25:21 <Ammler> something like nmlX 17:33:59 *** DJNekkid has quit IRC 17:36:23 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #1043 (New): NML fails on TTDPatch (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1043 17:39:08 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 18:27:29 <Hirundo> Ammler: Does TTDP have any way to get more information about the error? 18:28:23 <Ammler> you mean more than that screen I posted? 18:28:34 <Hirundo> yes 18:29:39 <Ammler> I don't know, I just liked to test swr, but as that crashed ttdp 18:29:52 <Hirundo> what does 'code 4/7' mean? 18:29:57 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:30:19 <Ammler> so I only found one nml grf, which worked with patch :-) 18:33:33 <Ammler> Hirundo: I am/was ttdpatch player as I am openttd player, even less 18:33:47 <Ammler> not really experienced with any internals 18:34:42 <Ammler> but swedishrails is a good example, nobody plays ttdpatch anymore 18:35:13 <Ammler> since openttd supports around 99% of all features there :-) 18:36:44 <Ammler> I just liked to notify you about it, so you are aware, if someone complains about :-P 19:42:50 <frosch123> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=SpriteErrors <- the error means, sprite #16 refers to an invalid vehicle/text/town part ID 20:11:29 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #1043: NML fails on TTDPatch (frosch) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1043#change-2724 20:13:46 <Ammler> frosch123: and the other grfs fail because those don't have Action8? 20:14:26 <Ammler> well, still have no idea, why swr crashes patch 20:15:54 <frosch123> no idea about the others :) i only looked at 006_vehicle. but without action8 it will very likely not work 20:20:54 <Alberth> those are unit tests for commands, and not intended for actually loading into a game 20:22:28 <Alberth> for example 002_sounds, defines incorrect data as 'sound', and gives no option to actually play the sound in the game. Ie pretty useless in-game. 20:23:38 <Alberth> perhaps 006_vehicle is somewhat better, I don't know 20:25:05 <frosch123> swedish rails uses undefined action2 ids in the action3 default cases 20:26:12 <frosch123> if railtypes get callbacks that will likely cause trouble, maybe even OTTD crashes :) 20:26:58 <Ammler> well, it shouldn't use railtypes for ttdpatch 20:27:21 <Ammler> planetmaker: made some effort to make it ttdpatch compatible, that is why I tested it there 20:27:52 <Rubidium> that colon shouldn't be there... now it means something completely different 20:28:50 * frosch123 does not know whether the missing default case is that a bug of swedishrails, or whether nml should rather enforce a "callback failed"-result for the default case 20:38:10 <frosch123> Ammler: but it only skips the action3 for ttdp, neither action1 nor action2, ... so who knows :) 20:39:25 <Ammler> hmm, seems like it is simple hazard (or however), that all nml projects failed 20:39:53 <Ammler> ogfx+ might also fail because of high id using 20:41:15 <Alberth> good night all 20:41:22 <frosch123> night albert 20:41:43 *** Alberth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 21:28:12 *** ODM has quit IRC 21:51:12 <planetmaker> [23:43] <frosch123> [22:25:05] swedish rails uses undefined action2 ids in the action3 default cases <-- hm, it does? 21:51:27 <planetmaker> afaik all my switch statements have valid targets, also as default... 21:51:33 <planetmaker> oh, and good evening everyone 21:51:43 <Rubidium> in that case: blame shinkansen! 21:52:03 <frosch123> planetmaker: not the switch varact2, but the action3 21:52:45 <frosch123> graphics { <- that lists only TRACKOVERLAY ... FENCES, but no default 21:54:25 <planetmaker> uh? they all do, don't they? 21:54:37 <planetmaker> oh... the graphics 21:54:46 <planetmaker> hm... 22:02:48 *** dan123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:03:56 <dan123> hello all, I've made some fixes to 2cctrainset (wagon weights and 1gen flatbed availability): 22:03:57 <dan123> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=43838&p=886071#p886071 22:03:59 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums • View topic - [OTTD]2cc TrainSetThe Trains of the world in2cc.Now:2.0Beta2 (at www.tt-forums.net) 22:04:41 <dan123> can somebody try it in free time? :) 22:15:00 <Ammler> dan123: hello :-) 22:15:07 <Ammler> don't you use the hg repo? 22:15:22 <dan123> I did download source from there 22:15:54 <dan123> but I don't know how to do anything else with this system :) 22:16:12 <Ammler> how did you download the source? 22:16:17 <Ammler> with hg clone? 22:16:31 <dan123> yes 22:16:51 <Ammler> just it would be easier to review a patch 22:17:03 <Ammler> hg diff > mypatch.diff 22:17:15 <dan123> I'll try it 22:17:35 <Ammler> instead of the zip with the modified files 22:19:55 <dan123> Ammler: I've updated my post :) 22:20:03 <dan123> thanks for help :) 22:20:27 <Ammler> well, the quy which can comment you best is currently on vacation 22:20:51 <dan123> yea, I've read whole topic 22:22:03 <Ammler> you added a new file? 22:22:55 <dan123> I've replaced zip with diff 22:23:08 <dan123> should I also add zip back? 22:23:20 <dan123> I'm kinda new in pathing business :) 22:23:35 <dan123> in fact that's my first patch I've ever made 22:24:47 <Ammler> no 22:25:00 <Ammler> it is just because you had 3 files in the zip, afaik 22:25:17 <Ammler> but the diff shows only changes in 2 22:25:41 <frosch123> count again :) 22:25:59 <Ammler> oh true 22:26:15 <dan123> don't scare me 22:26:16 <dan123> :D 22:26:24 <Ammler> stupid me using Kompare 22:27:44 <Ammler> dan123: maybe you can also register at the devzone so we can add you as contributor 22:28:04 <Ammler> but that is up to djn 22:29:17 <dan123> I'll register, I do like openttd and like to mess around with code so maybe I'll contribute some more 22:30:01 <dan123> mail there has to be public? 22:30:15 <Ammler> no, you can hide that in the settings 22:31:12 <Ammler> the email is needed for notifications 22:31:20 <Ammler> you can also customize that :-) 22:42:58 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 22:55:06 <planetmaker> dan123: what exactly did you change in a0.txt? It's so very long lines and the change(s) hard to find... only the weight? 22:55:08 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 22:55:20 <dan123> planetmaker: yes 22:55:51 <planetmaker> hm... DJN somehow copy & pastes these lines from his magic excel file 22:55:59 <planetmaker> (which is also part of the repo) 22:55:59 <dan123> i figured a0.txt is just a file with all stats in there 22:56:04 <planetmaker> yes, it is 22:56:17 <planetmaker> it's short for action0 - which is the action which defines the stats 22:56:55 <dan123> hmm, I should also make those changes in this excel file then 22:58:13 <planetmaker> -//Flatbed-short1 <-- you remove that comment at the start of the file short1_flatbed 22:59:10 <planetmaker> dan123: if you can make the changes to the excel file, too, that'd be great 22:59:27 <planetmaker> otherwise I fear that it'll get overwritten with the next update 22:59:52 <planetmaker> mind that not every stat is just typed in there but some are 'just' calculated. 23:00:24 <dan123> in flatbed file i just changed all "LONG" into "SHORT" 23:00:27 <planetmaker> But if you can provide an update to that file, too... I see no reason to not commit it 23:00:50 <planetmaker> dan123: yes, and removed the comment and replaced it by a blank line :-) 23:02:25 <dan123> I figured that it shouldn't be there, since there's no such line in files associated with other wagons 23:02:45 <planetmaker> hm, that might be 23:06:15 <dan123> excel file doesn't need updates, the right weights are right there, I'll adjust mine to those and make another version of my patch 23:07:47 <planetmaker> ah, good 23:12:49 <planetmaker> dan123: I'll look at it possibly tomorrow. I'm looking forward to it. But now bedtime 23:12:53 <planetmaker> Good night everyone 23:13:06 <dan123> goodnight 23:14:35 <PeterT> gn8 sir 23:39:24 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 23:46:43 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC