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00:02:36 *** dan123 has quit IRC 02:45:38 <Brot6> Redmine - Revision 3819: Add some tests for User#try_to_login with LDAP. #5592 (edavis10) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3819 02:45:38 <Brot6> Redmine - Revision 3820: Rename code and locale typo: Developper. #5751 (edavis10) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3820 02:50:49 <planetmaker> @calc 65000/3.5790976 02:50:49 <Webster> planetmaker: 18161.0003414 03:17:21 *** tneo has quit IRC 03:17:49 *** tneo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 03:20:47 *** OwenSX-28AC has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 03:21:50 *** OwenS has quit IRC 03:21:50 *** OwenSX-28AC is now known as OwenS 03:45:38 <Brot6> Redmine - Revision 3821: Recalculate inherited attributes on parents when a child is moved under ... (edavis10) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3821 03:45:38 <Brot6> Redmine - Revision 3822: Fix Chrome JavaScript bug in the pop up calendar. #5769 (edavis10) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3822 03:45:38 <Brot6> Redmine - Revision 3823: Don't style lists in a project description as a sub-project. #5752 (edavis10) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3823 03:45:39 <Brot6> Redmine - Revision 3824: Set @project so macros will work on the welcome and project list. #5781 (edavis10) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine/repository/revisions/3824 03:52:00 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 518:6863469dac17: Change: Rename vehicle variable or_of_bitmask t... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/6863469dac17 04:44:49 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 104:a672cd0f2a06: Add: GRFIDs of a number of road sets, preparing for th... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/swedishrails/repository/revisions/a672cd0f2a06 06:09:44 *** dan123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:58:19 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:04:47 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 105:1c50f48c2a5b: Change: Default header was missing in one file (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/swedishrails/repository/revisions/1c50f48c2a5b 07:06:55 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 519:33a9b6f6b89f: Fix: change some string codes to they match the... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/33a9b6f6b89f 07:10:00 <Ammler> planetmaker: how you substitute /* $Id$ */ 07:14:24 <planetmaker> I don't ;-) 07:14:51 <Ammler> I guess, mercurial has a extension for it 07:17:17 <planetmaker> yeah 07:18:15 <PeterT> Ammler: https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1046 <-- can you have a look and perhaps commit a fix? 07:18:30 <PeterT> (just add irc_bind_ip as a configuration value to the example config, openttd_additional.cfg) 07:19:22 *** dan123 has quit IRC 07:22:38 <Ammler> there is no patch :-P 07:28:59 <Ammler> I also have no idea, if that is the only missing parameter 07:29:28 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 106:806bcc8c7fb0: Codechange: Move the TTD-style replacement of level cr... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/swedishrails/repository/revisions/806bcc8c7fb0 07:30:28 <planetmaker> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=886685#p886685 <-- I have the feeling Pikka never programmed anything else than NFO... 07:30:29 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums • View topic - Native source support (at www.tt-forums.net) 07:30:51 <planetmaker> or maybe assembler :-) 07:40:34 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 107:318d56cd0364: Fix (r106): Add the template you use... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/swedishrails/repository/revisions/318d56cd0364 07:47:07 <Ammler> planetmaker: also you should, if you add big comments wrap those manually at around 80 07:49:07 <planetmaker> comments like what? 07:49:27 <Ammler> the header 07:49:41 <planetmaker> That's verbatim the header from OpenTTD 07:50:13 <planetmaker> well, nearly. s/OpenTTD/SwedishRails/ 07:50:33 <Ammler> yeah, I thought so because of the svn tags :-) 07:53:01 <planetmaker> :-) 08:45:38 <Brot6> Autopilot - Revision 786: Fix [#1046]: Add irc_debug and irc_bind_ip to the openttd.cfg (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/autopilot/repository/revisions/786 08:46:36 <Ammler> hmm, doesn't autoclose anymore 08:46:51 <Ammler> shouldn't use [] 08:47:29 <Brot6> Autopilot - Bug #1046 (Closed): irc_bind_ip is not in the example config (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1046#change-2749 10:15:56 *** DJNekkid has quit IRC 10:26:40 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:36:35 *** DJNekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:18:03 *** Yexo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:51:09 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #1045 (Resolved): non-matching string codes (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1045#change-2750 12:03:32 * Rubidium wonders when the "native source" guy fetches the clue stick 12:31:40 <planetmaker> hehe 12:31:45 <planetmaker> that might take some time 12:32:12 <Ammler> pikka didn't answer my question 12:32:26 <planetmaker> His idea is does not look bad, if one isn't or wasn't involved in such projects and endevours before 12:32:36 <planetmaker> Ammler, he did :-) 12:32:45 <planetmaker> between the lines 12:32:55 <Ammler> oh, ok, does he have other experience? 12:33:08 <planetmaker> My guess is: not really 12:33:25 <Yexo> I have no doubt that experienced programmers who are used to "common C-like syntax" <- basing on that I'd say no 12:33:34 * planetmaker agrees 12:34:31 <Ammler> I assume, the nfo spec is sill needed, also when nml is complete? 12:34:51 <Ammler> (complete as in first release) 12:34:58 <Yexo> yes 12:35:09 <Yexo> but a user wanting to learn nml shouldn't need to read it at all 12:35:28 <Yexo> it'll always be needed because it's also the spec for the grf actions, which is the output produced by nml 12:35:47 <planetmaker> yep 12:36:05 <Ammler> in some ways, the nml is just the "higher" language for nfo :-) 12:36:10 <planetmaker> but it's the same like we knowing C/C++ don't need to understand the internal of cpu registers 12:36:23 <planetmaker> Ammler, of course 12:36:33 <planetmaker> it's a high-level grf language. 12:36:39 <Ammler> that is like the asm code in ttdp 12:36:44 <Yexo> indeed, but that doesn't mean that _nobody_ has to know about those cpu registers 12:36:48 <planetmaker> The analogy between C / assembler and NML / NFO is quite valid IMHO 12:36:48 <Ammler> but even there, they use c++ in some cases, afaik 12:36:52 <Yexo> anyone writing a compiler has to know 13:25:05 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:32:18 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 520:077fedb1c111: Doc: Generation of error messages (ActionB) (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/077fedb1c111 14:20:41 *** Yexo has quit IRC 14:25:00 *** Yexo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:51:43 <Hirundo> error(level, message_type[, parameter1[, parameter2]]) <- isn't one parameter missing here? 14:53:07 <Yexo> yep 14:53:36 <Yexo> it's error(level, message_type[, data[, parameter1[, parameter2]]]) 14:55:45 *** dan123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:57:37 <planetmaker> hm... :-) 15:02:07 <Brot6> Swedish Rails - Revision 108:b3510537ae4d: Doc: Add a section on compatibility with other NewGRFs (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/swedishrails/repository/revisions/b3510537ae4d 15:20:17 *** dan123 has quit IRC 15:23:39 <Ammler> planetmaker: when you make switch dependencies to other grfs 15:23:39 <Ammler> shouldn't you mask the id for the first 3 ids and omit the last byte? 15:23:55 <planetmaker> possibly 15:23:59 <Ammler> at least with those grfs, which use the "versioning" system 15:24:14 <Ammler> maybe a feature request for nml ;-) 15:24:26 <DJNekkid> hi guys... i got a small task for anyone of you if someone is intersted. Take a .mp3-file, and strip it so that there are only 4 minutes (take away the lets say, first minute and last minute if it is 6mins long) 15:24:57 <planetmaker> random task: Edit some music? 15:25:00 <Ammler> strip -> del -> merge 15:25:16 <Ammler> one liner with linux :-P 15:25:28 * Rubidium ponders finding a 4 minute long soundless mp3 15:25:36 <Ammler> split might be the command 15:25:48 <DJNekkid> well, its more of a bulk job... 15:25:56 <DJNekkid> i have LOTS and LOTS of extended remixes 15:26:05 <DJNekkid> but on an MP3-player that is kind of boring 15:26:15 <DJNekkid> with the 1 minute ish of intro and outro 15:26:19 *** KenjiE20 is now known as Guest1611 15:26:22 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:29:00 <planetmaker> <Ammler> strip -> del -> merge <-- not rather unzip, strip, touch, finger, mount, fsck, more, yes, umount, sleep, exit 0 ? 15:29:19 <planetmaker> :-D 15:30:05 <Rubidium> DJNekkid: SoX 15:30:07 *** Guest1611 has quit IRC 15:31:13 *** dan123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:33:26 <Rubidium> DJNekkid: http://sox.sourceforge.net/sox.html then search for trim 15:33:27 <Webster> Title: Manpage of SoX (at sox.sourceforge.net) 15:36:52 <DJNekkid> thanx Rubidium :D I'll look into it :D 15:42:51 <Rubidium> planetmaker: http://rbijker.net/openttd/fs3911-full.diff does that suffice? 15:51:32 <planetmaker> the visibility of the train tracks on the road is still a bit less than I'd expect. But it suffices :-) 15:53:21 <planetmaker> Because this impression might actually be wrong... I lack easy zoom for close-in inspection on my linux box 15:56:07 <Rubidium> peter may fix that with newroadtypes :) 15:56:35 <planetmaker> that's what we hope for :-) 15:57:29 <planetmaker> hm... should I make a feature request about exposing a station_has_roof bit to railtypes? 15:57:31 <planetmaker> as variable? 15:58:12 <Yexo> I think it's a good idea, but it needs support mainly from station sets 15:58:30 <planetmaker> yes, it does. But it's a good idea :-) 15:58:47 <planetmaker> or at least the knowledge "is station" might already be useful 15:59:02 <planetmaker> but then... "has_roof" is nicer 15:59:05 <Yexo> "is station" is not a good check 15:59:29 <Yexo> "has roof" might default to true for "is station", but that's all imo 16:00:25 <planetmaker> not sure that's desired actually. Rather not 16:19:03 <Brot6> nml: update from r517 to r520 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/r520 16:19:31 <Brot6> openmsx: update from r75 to r77 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/openmsx/nightlies/r77 16:20:16 <Brot6> swedishrails: update from r102 to r108 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/swedishrails/nightlies/r108 16:21:21 <Brot6> worldairlinersset: update from r646 to r648 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/nightlies/r648 16:21:21 <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r559), 32bpp-extra (r36), airportsplus (r50), bros (r12), comic-houses (r70), firs (r1011), fish (r375), heqs (r320), newgrf_makefile (r104), nmts (r16), nutracks (r79), ogfxplus (r32), opengfx (r461), opensfx (r94), snowlinemod (r12) 16:26:53 <DJNekkid> do KLM 737's have a 2-3 setup (5abreast?) 16:30:39 <DJNekkid> we are flying KLM tomorrow, and only seast AC + DEF were available, and according to wikipedia cant i see what other planes that should fly oslo-amsterdam 16:31:22 <DJNekkid> oh, it might be that cityhopper subsidary 16:31:54 <DJNekkid> probably a fokker100 or embraair 190 then :) 16:36:30 <Rubidium> DJNekkid: which flight? 16:37:28 * Rubidium sees at least 5 flights 16:38:14 <Rubidium> DJNekkid: AMS departure at 16:55 (KL1149)? 16:39:06 <Rubidium> oh... or do you go from Oslo to Amsterdam? 16:42:53 <Rubidium> the EMBRAER 190 doesn't have seats E, Fokker 70/100 have AC + DEF, 737s seem to be all 3+3 16:43:30 <Rubidium> except the 737-700 PrivateAir, which has 2+2 (quite expensive I'd reckon) 16:50:45 <Brot6> OpenMSX - Revision 78:6ba98f15b8c9: DevZone: customize compiler for music (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/openmsx/repository/revisions/6ba98f15b8c9 16:52:12 <DJNekkid> kl1150 :) 16:52:19 <Ammler> planetmaker: silence the "nfo" error ^ 16:52:29 <DJNekkid> a fokker100 then i guess 16:53:41 <planetmaker> cp: cannot stat `/home/ottdc/chroots/devzone-suse11.2-nightlies/usr/src/packages/BUILD/openmsx/sprites/*.nfo': No such file or directory <-- that one, Ammler ? 16:53:53 <Ammler> yes :-) 16:54:04 <planetmaker> :-) 16:54:13 <Ammler> I added the obm instead 16:54:18 <Ammler> or is that useless? 16:54:25 <Rubidium> DJNekkid: so departure at 19:40 from Oslo... would be a Fokker 70 16:54:29 <planetmaker> instead of what? 16:54:33 <Rubidium> DJNekkid: http://www.klm.com/travel/nl_nl/prepare_for_travel/on_board/seating_plans/Fokker70.htm 16:54:33 <Ammler> of the nfo 16:54:35 <Webster> Title: Fokker 70 - KLM.com (at www.klm.com) 16:54:53 <planetmaker> not sure where that is triggered now :-) So... dunno yet 16:55:15 <Ammler> well, I trigger a nightly build then 16:55:23 <Rubidium> although, for DJNekkid http://www.klm.com/travel/no_en/prepare_for_travel/on_board/seating_plans/Fokker70.htm# might be easier to understand 16:55:24 <Webster> Title: Fokker 70 - KLM.com (at www.klm.com) 16:55:41 <DJNekkid> aslong as it isnt a turboprop im satisfied :) 16:55:51 <Brot6> openmsx: update from r77 to r78 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/openmsx/nightlies/r78 16:56:56 <Rubidium> DJNekkid: The Fokker 70 is a 70-seat, twin-engine jet airliner 16:57:27 <Rubidium> so combining Wikipedia and KLM: 10 people must be standing during the flight 16:59:35 <planetmaker> Ammler, I don't quite see atm where the missing nfo error is triggered... 17:00:44 <Ammler> planetmaker: here http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/repository/entry/compiler/.default/grf/nightlies/files#L5 17:01:14 <planetmaker> ah, yes. 17:01:21 <planetmaker> The source dir is src, not sprites 17:01:55 <Ammler> doesn't matter, we don't use that file anymore for music set 17:02:08 <Ammler> it has its own settings 17:02:48 <planetmaker> good. As it probably should 17:02:57 <Ammler> yes :-) 17:02:59 <planetmaker> OpenMSX doesn't use 100% generic Makefiles anyway 17:03:12 <Ammler> hmm, was needs also it's custom config, it seems 17:03:26 <planetmaker> hm, does it? 17:03:26 <Ammler> -' 17:04:26 <Ammler> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/worldairlinersset/nightlies/r648/log/worldairlinersset-r648-build.err.log <-- it needs unix2dos 17:04:59 <planetmaker> so do my Makefiles 17:05:02 <Ammler> oh? 17:05:04 <Ammler> hmm 17:05:12 <planetmaker> they work without as I test for it 17:05:24 <planetmaker> But I'd recommend it. Otherwise we have unix style text files 17:05:32 <planetmaker> They'd be windows style, if unix2dos is present 17:05:37 <Ammler> hmm, then I add it to the generic script 17:06:04 <planetmaker> And I know that I was asked to implement it for this very reason :-) 17:06:33 <planetmaker> so that the poor windows user don't have to wonder ;-) 17:07:50 <planetmaker> $(_V) [ -z "$(UNIX2DOS)" ] || $(UNIX2DOS) $(UNIX2DOS_FLAGS) $@ 17:08:11 <planetmaker> for all txt files 17:09:43 <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/entry/scripts/Makefile.def <-- this actually gives a list which programmes might be needed :-) 17:09:55 <planetmaker> lines 24-37 17:10:27 <Ammler> do the nml projects also need unix2dos? 17:10:43 <planetmaker> yes. It handles only the txt files: readme, license, changelog 17:11:03 <Ammler> you might consider to give a warning about missing tools 17:11:19 <planetmaker> It's recommended but not required 17:11:27 <Ammler> yes, so the build should not fail 17:11:31 <Ammler> but report 17:11:33 <planetmaker> And someone who doesn't have it won't miss it 17:12:04 <Ammler> it is like in openttd, if you don't have libicu 17:14:06 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:16:38 <planetmaker> hm, yes, maybe. Just print an informative message that unix2dos is missing... 17:17:09 <planetmaker> anyway... gaming night :-) 17:24:43 <Ammler> good night 17:53:00 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #1043: NML fails on TTDPatch (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1043#change-2751 18:57:54 *** Alberth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:38:54 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #1047 (New): NER EF1-alignment (DJNekkid) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1047 19:55:53 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:31:58 *** Yexo has quit IRC 20:32:37 *** Yexo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:54:50 *** Alberth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 21:28:30 *** ODM has quit IRC 21:36:25 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 21:36:41 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:44:48 <Brot6> Redmine HG Patch Queue - Revision 114:6d86e878488c: Added tag 2010-06-30-0.9.4 for changeset 4fb2... (Yuya Nishihara) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine-patches/repository/revisions/6d86e878488c 21:44:48 <Brot6> Redmine HG Patch Queue - Revision 115:352ad3f3ac35: drop patch included in 0.9.5 (Yuya Nishihara) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/redmine-patches/repository/revisions/352ad3f3ac35 22:01:26 <dan123> DJNekkid: I've got one question about translating 2ccrailset (I'm roughly at finish of that), what exacly does this red "NB:" before explaining mu costs means? 22:04:07 <Rubidium> "nota bene" 22:04:24 <Rubidium> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nota%20bene 22:04:25 <Webster> Title: Nota bene - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary (at www.merriam-webster.com) 22:07:55 <dan123> thanks :) 23:48:18 *** dan123 has quit IRC 23:51:22 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC