Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 27th September 2010:
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00:22:26  <Brot6> indonesiantowns: update from  to 1.1 done (4 errors) -
00:22:53  <Brot6> Indonesian Town Names - Bug #1552 (Closed): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @
00:22:53  <Brot6> Indonesian Town Names - Bug #1553 (Closed): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @
00:22:53  <Brot6> Indonesian Town Names - Revision 31:273fc5837d7a: -Fix #1552, Fix #1553, Added tag 1.1 for change... (fanioz) @
00:22:53  <Brot6> Indonesian Town Names - Bug #1553 (Closed): DevZone compile failed (fanioz) @
00:22:56  <Brot6> Indonesian Town Names - Bug #1552 (Closed): DevZone compile failed (fanioz) @
00:38:27  <Brot6> Indonesian Town Names - Support #1524 (Closed): DevZone has automatic push, nightly or release (t... (fanioz) @
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03:00:58  <Brot6> AI Dev - Bug #1559 (New): Version constant too long (fanioz) @
03:25:47  <Brot6> AdmiralAI - Bug #1560 (New): Version constant too long (fanioz) @
03:39:30  <Brot6> AI Dev - Feature Request #1561 (New): AI libraries import (fanioz) @
04:31:09  <Brot6> Bundles Update: g4a25b075 2010-09-27 cargodist   (
05:53:40  <Brot6> AI-Trans - Revision 151:c88b009d4c39: Codechange: Use more static variable instead (fanioz) @
05:53:40  <Brot6> AI-Trans - Revision 152:31e238a4b69b: Codechange: Added class Ticker (fanioz) @
06:54:38  <Brot6> AI-Trans - Revision 153:69e23f498f35: Codechange: Added function to get base cost for demolition (fanioz) @
06:54:38  <Brot6> AI-Trans - Revision 154:b121060f9c70: Codechange: Add costs related function (fanioz) @
06:54:38  <Brot6> AI-Trans - Revision 155:e8c261091091: Codechange: Add check servable validity. (fanioz) @
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07:49:44  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1562 (New): add harbour (dock) to fishing harbour (planetmaker) @
07:51:46  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1563 (New): fishing ground placement (planetmaker) @
07:58:08  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1564 (Confirmed): more rigorously placement industries; mind... (planetmaker) @
08:01:04  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1565 (New): cotton in arctic? (planetmaker) @
08:01:07  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1566 (New): description of sugar refinery (planetmaker) @
08:02:35  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1567 (New): fishing grounds accept passengers (planetmaker) @
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10:59:33  <planetmaker> moin :-)
10:59:41  <planetmaker> seems like wifi is working here :-)
11:01:16  <Ammler> \o
11:05:43  <planetmaker> and all those FIRS bugs are the result of a long train trip ;-)
11:09:01  <Rubidium> should I wave to Prague?
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11:09:53  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1562: add harbour (dock) to fishing harbour (andythenorth) @
11:09:53  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1567: fishing grounds accept passengers (andythenorth) @
11:10:47  <planetmaker> Rubidium: you may, if you wish :-)
11:11:17  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1565: cotton in arctic? (andythenorth) @
11:11:55  <Rubidium> it's still the same general direction as Brunswijk
11:12:52  <planetmaker> :-D
11:13:08  <planetmaker> I'd assume it's about 45° different?
11:13:31  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1563 (Rejected): fishing ground placement (planetmaker) @
11:13:31  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1563 (Rejected): fishing ground placement (andythenorth) @
11:13:31  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1562: add harbour (dock) to fishing harbour (planetmaker) @
11:13:39  <Rubidium> it's way more east than south
11:14:20  <planetmaker> really?
11:14:41  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1564: more rigorously placement industries; mind cargo chains (andythenorth) @
11:15:13  <Rubidium> ratio is roughly 2 east, 1 south
11:15:24  <Rubidium> for you it's more like 1 east, 1 south though
11:16:47  <planetmaker> about, yes.
11:17:04  <planetmaker> hm... my geography got distances a bit wrong ;-)
11:19:09  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1565: cotton in arctic? (planetmaker) @
11:20:08  <andythenorth_> planetmaker: are you playing german translation of FIRS?
11:20:16  <andythenorth_> I don't have cotton
11:20:17  <planetmaker> yes
11:20:27  <andythenorth_> I have FICR = Plant Fibres
11:20:33  <planetmaker> He :-)
11:20:35  <andythenorth_> update the translation :)
11:20:53  <andythenorth_> it's quite a good cargo, it's the main cargo in my current game
11:20:56  <planetmaker> How should I have known? :-) But yes, there's more which needs updating
11:21:06  * andythenorth_ back to work
11:21:13  <planetmaker> I shall do that during a boring talk :-P
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11:22:24  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1565 (Confirmed): cotton in arctic? (planetmaker) @
11:22:24  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1565 (Confirmed): cotton in arctic? (planetmaker) @
11:22:40  <Terkhen> planetmaker: check it with the patched script; it should tell you which strings are missing, changed and not needed anymore
11:23:04  <Ammler> he, how does it find changed strings?
11:23:07  <Terkhen> you will get a lot of changed strings because of the resortings though
11:23:25  <Terkhen> using hg blame, not very exact but "works"
11:23:28  <Ammler> do you diff to earlier versions?
11:23:34  <Ammler> nice
11:24:28  <planetmaker> Terkhen: but... it doesn't look like:
11:24:49  <planetmaker> run on r1424
11:25:42  <Terkhen> they are still not commited; I was waiting for comments first:
11:26:14  <planetmaker> ah, I see :-)
11:31:07  <planetmaker> quite nice output of the script, Terkhen :-)
11:32:39  <Terkhen> :)
11:37:00  <Ammler> Terkhen: using git for developing?
11:37:55  <Terkhen> never tried it, but I was told that git would handle this more easily
11:38:37  <Ammler> nah, I just meant because of your patch prefixes :-)
11:38:48  <Ammler> or svn quilt maybe
11:39:13  <Terkhen> hg mq
11:39:44  <Terkhen> those prefixes are useful when you have to add a new patch between two patches, and remind me of basic :)
11:40:03  <Ammler> hmm, how does mq add those?
11:40:59  <Terkhen> it doesn't, I do it manually
11:41:02  <Ammler> qseries handles the orders but it might be useful, if you publish the patches without the series
11:41:38  <Ammler> ah, ok
11:47:10  <planetmaker> and before I forget the push of what I added to the ogfx+trains while in the train :-)
11:47:48  <Ammler> you might also fix the compile bug :-P
11:47:54  * planetmaker wonders whether it is sensible to have one varaction2 chain per wagon, for all rail types...
11:48:03  <planetmaker> Ammler: I don't know how...
11:48:09  <planetmaker> I did commit what we talked about
11:48:28  <Ammler> oh, you didn't read the ticket yet, then
11:50:23  <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 32:c14c23c21322: Fix: And yet another file needed for the CF missing (planetmaker) @
11:50:24  <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Bug #1554 (Closed): DevZone compile failed (planetmaker) @
11:50:25  <planetmaker> meh. You failed to tell me :-)
11:51:01  <planetmaker> It's always nice, if one can blame others :-P
11:51:22  <Ammler> I am quite sure, I told you :-P
11:52:29  <Ammler> maybe it is time to change default from nfo to nml :-)
11:54:18  <planetmaker> :-)
11:54:25  <planetmaker> That time comes with NML 0.1 :-)
11:54:41  <planetmaker> Then I'll make the same change to the makefiles
11:56:07  <Ammler> would it be useful to exten the makefile to write the devzone config too?
11:56:19  <Ammler> make devzone nightly enable
11:56:31  <Ammler> hmm
11:56:37  <planetmaker> yes
11:57:07  <Ammler> or just add a bash script to the scripts folder
11:57:15  <planetmaker> actually... It might be nice, if just in Makefile.config a few variables could be set which enable it
11:57:26  <planetmaker> those could be checked and the files written and added
11:57:32  <planetmaker> or that
11:57:36  <Ammler> yes, why not
11:57:45  <Ammler> the problem is simple
11:57:52  <planetmaker> your task :-P
11:57:56  <Ammler> not every project has a Makefile.config
11:58:02  <planetmaker> not?
11:58:13  <planetmaker> well, yours :-P
11:58:19  <planetmaker> but bash script is fine.
11:58:20  <Ammler> eq. the openttd mqs
11:58:40  <planetmaker> I'll happily add that and call it with appropriate parameters
11:58:51  <Ammler> or grfcodec
12:00:10  <Ammler> but we could tell the build script to look for the Makefile.config
12:00:42  <planetmaker> yes, more universally might be better here
12:01:41  <Ammler> well, currently it is able to build everything
12:02:32  <Yexo> Ammler: about #1556: is it general of mostly for some nml code
12:02:33  <Brot6> Yexo: Ammler: #1556 is "NewGRF Meta Language - Feature Request #1556: nfo output better readable - #openttdcoop Development Zone"
12:03:41  <Ammler> Yexo: I thought it is general, but maybe I am wrong, I looked at townnames as I made the post
12:03:58  <Ammler> which is definitly not readable
12:04:07  <Yexo> agreed on that one ;)
12:05:07  <Ammler> I should test the beautifier from nforenum
12:07:45  <Ammler> planetmaker: how would I need to configure the makefile to build nfo?
12:27:27  <planetmaker> USE_NFO := 1 in the Makefile.config
12:28:56  <planetmaker> (besides giving the grf name and having a pnfo file with the same name in the nfo dir)
12:59:02  <Ammler> planetmaker: I meant to let nml project build nfo
12:59:48  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature Request #1550 (Closed): allow setting default value also for boole... (planetmaker) @
12:59:48  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 798:a7e47401e5b1: Change #1556: make town names nfo more readable... (yexo) @
12:59:49  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 799:1a6bdca0d74c: Feature #1493: add cargotype_available builtin (yexo) @
12:59:49  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 800:39bd065c9779: Feature #1493: add railtype_available builtin (yexo) @
12:59:53  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 801:9485d992d749: Fix #1550: allow setting a default value for bo... (yexo) @
12:59:57  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature Request #1550 (Closed): allow setting default value also for boole... (yexo) @
13:15:17  <Ammler> [15:14] <Ammler> hmm, would be nice, if dalestan would be member of the grfcodec project
13:15:42  <Yexo> is there any use as long as he's not active?
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13:17:03  <lugo> so it's compiling now, i think firs'  docs/readme.txt needs an update :D
13:18:41  <Ammler> nice :-)
13:18:48  <Brot6> GRFCodec - Bug #1568 (New): Search for nforenum or grfcodec (Ammler) @
13:18:48  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 802:a6ea55f5ab5d: Feature #1493: make it possible to get paramete... (yexo) @
13:19:04  <Ammler> Yexo: then he would have got a mail from this ticket ^ :-)
13:19:21  <Ammler> I added status "inactive"
13:19:48  <Yexo> imo you should mail dalestan directly about that instead of putting it on the issue tracker
13:20:39  <Ammler> I am not sure, if I would be the right person to do this...
13:20:59  <Yexo> why not? it's only a simple request for a redirect and you noticed it
13:21:24  <Yexo> unless you had a fight with dalestan before or something like that
13:21:55  <Ammler> afaik, Rubidium got a mail from him where they discussed it already, just don't know the right context
13:22:19  <Ammler> nah, I guess, our relation isn't infected ;-)
13:27:17  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature Request #1493: action7 conditions > 06 (yexo) @
13:40:32  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 803:c3fdaf6dd3e3: Doc: the 2 new builtin functions (yexo) @
13:40:32  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 804:e08a3cb8b260: Fix #1469: the documentation for 'graphics' was... (yexo) @
13:40:32  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 805:35b0bc695660: Add: function to write comments to nfo files (yexo) @
13:40:33  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 806:63900677f733: Add: write the name of a switch block as a comm... (yexo) @
13:40:37  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #1469 (Closed): documentation about 'graphics' is wrong (yexo) @
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13:43:15  <fanioz> hg
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13:43:44  <fanioz> :(
13:43:46  <fanioz> wrong channel
13:45:20  <Ammler> indeed, quite :-P
13:45:38  <Ammler> you pipe ls to the irc?
13:46:23  <fanioz> yes, but it not supposed to this channel :-(
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15:05:33  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #1569 (New): 4-8-2 Mountain (Voyager1) @
16:10:08  <Brot6> nml: update from r797 to r806 done -
16:20:13  <Brot6> firs: update from r1423 to r1424 done (1 errors) -
16:20:52  <Brot6> indonesiantowns: update from  to r31 done (4 errors) -
16:21:30  <Brot6> ogfx-trains: update from  to r32 done (1 errors) -
16:21:47  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r615), 32bpp-extra (r39), ai-admiralai (r68), airportsplus (r63), basecosts (r22), belarusiantowns (r7), comic-houses (r71), fish (r394), frenchtowns (r4), grfcodec (r771), heqs (r376), metrotrackset (r56), newgrf_makefile (r219), nforenum (r506), nml (r806), nutracks (r117), ogfx-trees (r30), ogfxplus (r42), opengfx (r550), openmsx (r97), opensfx (r97), smts (r3), snowlinemod
16:21:47  <Brot6> (r45), swedishrails (r182), swisstowns (r19), transrapidtrackset (r15), ttdviewer (r25), ttrs (r23), worldairlinersset (r664)
16:23:37  <Ammler> planetmaker: that looks like a bug of makefile:, it should fail the building
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16:24:59  <Brot6> swisstowns: rebuild of r19 done (Diffsize: 21) (DiffDiffsize: 20) -
16:25:13  <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: airportsplus, belarusiantowns (3 errors) (Diffsize: 21), frenchtowns (4 errors) (Diffsize: 9), ogfxplus (Diffsize: 6), swedishrails
16:27:17  <Ammler> swisstowns has on every build another md5sum :-)
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16:48:48  <Brot6> swisstowns: update from r19 to r20 done -
16:48:48  <Brot6> Swiss Town Names - Revision 20:0522afdcfce1: Cleanup: merge small and big group (Ammler) @
16:54:46  <Ammler> looks like the nfo is fine
16:54:56  <Ammler> so the "bug" is in openttd
17:00:14  <Ammler> hmm, no the last part might be buggy
17:01:33  <Rubidium> well, just test whether it's buggy in TTDP as well
17:03:36  <Ammler> hmm, you should really change the trcker from Feature Request to Feature if you accept it
17:03:47  <Ammler> this way, it is quite useless
17:04:32  <Ammler> well, I add now the possiblity to reopen also FRs
17:05:41  <Ammler> hmm, maybe I should use different user for admin and non-admin work
17:10:44  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature Request #1327 (Reopened): allow more than 255 names (Ammler) @
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18:10:28  <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: update from r20852 to r20854 done -
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18:14:40  <andythenorth_> hi hi
18:19:42  <Brot6> clientpatches: update from r20853 to r20854 done -
18:29:04  <Brot6> serverpatches: update from he188ad2a to h9c50bbb4 done (2 errors) -
18:37:47  <Brot6> swisstowns: update from r20 to r20 done -
18:39:34  <planetmaker> Ammler: yes, looks like
18:39:36  <planetmaker> (the makefile bug in indonesian town names)
18:39:46  <planetmaker> But is it using the newest version? I only fixed that cc | sed error recently
18:40:03  <planetmaker> Try to update it and it might be fatal :-)
18:41:54  <Ammler> locally, it does build the towns.nml
18:43:47  <planetmaker> but probably with some missing files?
18:43:49  <Ammler> ah no, it doesn't
18:44:04  <planetmaker> I guess it will build a grf. Question is 'what kind'?
18:44:32  <Ammler> if I run make twice, it works
18:44:54  <planetmaker> checkout r197 from newgrf_makefile
18:45:04  <planetmaker> yes, that it works the 2nd time is a bug
18:45:10  <planetmaker> the result is not what you want ;-)
18:45:30  <planetmaker> which makefile version do you use with the indonesian one?
18:45:38  <Ammler> tip
18:45:43  <planetmaker> hm
18:45:45  <Ammler> updated now
18:45:54  <planetmaker> ah, and then you got that bug?
18:45:59  <Ammler> r220
18:46:29  <planetmaker> hm... r220?
18:46:35  <Ammler> isn't that tip?
18:46:47  <planetmaker> I only have r219 as tip :-)
18:47:04  <planetmaker> 219:2a661407ef01
18:47:07  <Ammler> 220:2a661407ef01
18:47:20  <planetmaker> so much for unique rXXX
18:47:47  <Ammler> that's fine
18:47:54  <Ammler> hash is the same
18:47:59  <planetmaker> :-) yep
18:48:30  <Ammler> it made changes to common and def
18:50:02  <Ammler> ah, I have a experimental stable branch in it :-)
18:50:13  <planetmaker> :-)
18:51:11  <planetmaker> Well... I know one solution to 'it builds the 2nd time'. You could try to add %.nfo to Makefile.common where it says .DELETE_ON_ERROR
18:51:29  <planetmaker> and / or alternatively remove it from .PRECIOUS
18:51:34  <Ammler>
18:52:49  <planetmaker> hm
18:52:57  <planetmaker> I only see one call there
18:53:06  <Ammler> yes, and you don't see the errors?
18:53:54  <Ammler>
18:54:52  <planetmaker> of course I do. I thought what you pasted _was_ the 2nd... and wondered
18:55:43  <planetmaker> I guess the solution really is to add it 'delete_on_error' %.nml
18:55:50  <planetmaker> can you try that?
18:57:16  <planetmaker>
18:57:23  <Ammler> but the final grf is fine
18:57:30  <planetmaker> is it?
18:57:35  <planetmaker> interesting
18:57:39  <Ammler> well, it looks like
18:57:41  <Ammler> hmm
18:57:53  <Ammler> checking, if that is from first or sedond run
18:59:00  <Ammler> yes, I have a grf
18:59:10  <Ammler> from first run
19:00:02  <Ammler> you also see, it does complain about missing towns.pnml
19:00:10  <Ammler> but later you see it does build it
19:00:57  <Ammler> (still first run)
19:08:21  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature Request #1327: allow more than 255 names (Ammler) @
19:15:56  <planetmaker> Make me a ticket with reference to this newgrf with revision. I'll look later at it.
19:16:52  * andythenorth_ ponders FIRS tickets
19:17:32  <Ammler> well, it does arise as error at indiantowns, so ti won't get forgotten
19:19:32  <Rubidium> indian?
19:23:57  <Rubidium> ah well, then people from Australia are Austrians as well ;)
19:26:44  <Ammler> :-=
19:26:59  <Ammler> fanioz: isn't around, so who cares :-P
19:28:31  <V453000> teepees?
19:28:34  <Rubidium> me?
19:30:46  <Ammler> you
19:31:09  * Rubidium likes Indonesian food over Indian (the ones from India)
19:31:44  <Rubidium> and the Indians (i.e. native Americans) are just for cheap fast food in casinos
19:31:45  <Ammler> I might not have eaten Indonesian yet
19:32:10  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1570 (New): Some industry window texts wrong / incomplete (andythenorth) @
19:32:15  <Rubidium> it's somewhat more famous in the Netherlands for historical reasons
19:34:59  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1425:201cde912114: Feature: Glassworks accepts Chemicals... (andythenorth) @
19:35:00  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1426:6c248dbbe781: Feature: updated industry window text... (andythenorth) @
19:35:00  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1542 (Closed): Let glass works accept chemicals? (andythenorth) @
19:35:13  <V453000> Ammler: cannibals
19:35:21  <V453000> :P
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20:45:38  <Brot6> NFORenum - Bug #1571 (New): Strange error report 134 for multiple ground sprites (George) @
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23:47:32  * fanioz just wake up now. Morning
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