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00:26:20 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 00:38:40 *** thgergo has quit IRC 05:10:44 *** Webster has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:25:43 *** Webster has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:23:59 <Yexo> planetmaker: I think it's more use to document the "nfo id" for vehicles 14:24:11 <Yexo> MPS Regal Bus is id 0 in nfo 14:24:27 <Yexo> so in nml the user has to use id 0 to change it, not 116 14:35:02 <Hirundo> ^^ agreed with Yexo 15:17:06 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:10:58 <Brot6> nml: update from r806 to r808 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/r808 16:18:57 <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r615), 32bpp-extra (r39), ai-admiralai (r68), airportsplus (r63), basecosts (r22), belarusiantowns (r7), comic-houses (r71), firs (r1431), fish (r394), frenchtowns (r4), grfcodec (r772), heqs (r380), indonesiantowns (r31), metrotrackset (r56), newgrf_makefile (r219), nforenum (r506), nml (r808), nutracks (r117), ogfx-trains (r32), ogfx-trees (r30), ogfxplus (r42), opengfx 16:18:57 <Brot6> (r550), openmsx (r97), opensfx (r97), smts (r5), snowlinemod (r45), swedishrails (r182), swisstowns (r20), transrapidtrackset (r15), ttdviewer (r25), ttrs (r23), worldairlinersset (r664) 16:21:17 <Brot6> belarusiantowns: rebuild of r7 done (3 errors) (Diffsize: 21) (DiffDiffsize: 17) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/belarusiantowns/nightlies/r7/log 16:21:48 <Brot6> frenchtowns: rebuild of r4 done (4 errors) (Diffsize: 9) (DiffDiffsize: 8) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/frenchtowns/nightlies/r4/log 16:23:45 <Brot6> ogfxplus: rebuild of r42 done (Diffsize: 6) (DiffDiffsize: 8) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfxplus/nightlies/r42/log 16:25:24 <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: airportsplus, indonesiantowns (4 errors), ogfx-trains (1 errors), swedishrails, swisstowns (Diffsize: 4845) 16:41:36 <planetmaker> [18:40] <Yexo> [16:23:58] planetmaker: I think it's more use to document the "nfo id" for vehicles <-- I do agree. 16:44:23 <planetmaker> It was also meant to be that. 16:44:50 <planetmaker> The regex took the wrong column... 16:45:10 <Yexo> ok, so you'll fix it? 16:45:40 <planetmaker> I shall. I can't promise anything before next week, though. I'll create a ticket for me. 16:45:59 <planetmaker> Another question: what about adding gpl colour palettes to the documentation? 16:46:07 <planetmaker> (and other palettes subsequently?) 16:46:19 <Ammler> gpl? 16:46:28 <planetmaker> gimp palettes 16:47:40 <Yexo> fine, just make sure to add palette files for all supported palettes 16:48:14 <Ammler> how does nml decide which palette to use? 16:48:27 <planetmaker> Yexo: I can only add those which I have. 16:48:30 <Ammler> with the grf{} properity? 16:48:43 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #1582 (Confirmed): Doc: use NFO numbers for vehicles rather than a con... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1582 16:48:53 <planetmaker> There's some automatism afaik 16:48:54 <Yexo> Ammler: it doesn't write the palette it uses to the nfo/grf yet 16:49:17 <Yexo> and it checks for every graphics file if the palette is valid, but it doesn't check if every graphics file uses the same palette 16:49:30 <planetmaker> hm 16:49:45 <planetmaker> feature request? 16:49:47 <planetmaker> :-) 16:49:51 <Ammler> Yexo: something like autodetect? 16:50:04 <Yexo> yes, it should autodetect the palette 16:50:10 <Yexo> and also check if it's the same for every graphics file 16:50:35 <Rubidium> pff... just convert it to DOS :) 16:50:45 <Yexo> eventually a palette convert function could be useful so you can specify on the commandline which palette to write to the grf (and convert the grahpics automatically) 16:51:08 <planetmaker> feature request created :-) 16:51:27 <Ammler> convert to dos or the palette defined in grf{} 16:51:27 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature Request #1583 (New): Autodetect palette (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1583 16:51:32 <planetmaker> actually using DOS as default is quite fine. 16:51:52 <planetmaker> when a conversion is done :-) 16:52:06 <Yexo> for compatibility with ttdpatch there should remain an option to write the win palette 16:52:12 <planetmaker> true 16:52:22 <planetmaker> --palette :-) 16:52:28 <Yexo> exactly :) 16:53:24 <Ammler> maybe the palettes should also be renamed 16:53:42 <planetmaker> yes, they should for this purpose. 16:53:49 <Yexo> that'll cause more confusion than that is solves a problem 16:53:55 <Ammler> but that is also a task for openttd 16:54:12 <planetmaker> though it doesn't really make sense :-) as the naming is... only historically sensible and has nothing to do with the function 16:54:39 <Ammler> Yexo: well, then not renaming but aliasing :-) 16:55:00 <Ammler> to default (=dos) and windows and dos 16:55:46 <Yexo> don't forget toyland (although I'm not sure that is actually supported for newgrf files) 16:55:49 <Ammler> or full (=dos) and reduced (=win) 16:56:05 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature Request #1583: Autodetect palette (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1583#change-4118 16:57:22 <Ammler> or call the windows palette 7.5bpp :-) 16:57:49 <planetmaker> [18:55] <Yexo> don't forget toyland (although I'm not sure that is actually supported for newgrf files) <-- I know about it. But I don't have it. And... it can still be added subsequently, can't it? 16:57:56 <planetmaker> I shall mention it already, though 16:58:19 <Yexo> what is the format of the gpl files? 16:58:28 <Yexo> maybe you can generate them with some python code 16:58:31 <planetmaker> but as we support not only newgrf but also grf... support for it will be good :-) 16:58:37 <planetmaker> I've no idea tbh 16:59:22 <planetmaker> but seems readable well 16:59:35 <planetmaker> plain text file 16:59:52 <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/93/ttd-newgrf-win.gpl 17:00:32 <planetmaker> Yexo: but... why would we generate them? From what? 17:00:40 <planetmaker> I mean... what would be the advantage? 17:00:59 <Yexo> nml/palette.py has the palettes 17:01:00 <planetmaker> If, it could be used itself to generate others ;-) 17:01:03 <planetmaker> ah. 17:01:11 <planetmaker> Then it's possible probably. Let's see 17:01:37 <Yexo> should be trivial, the gpl file is in a text format 17:02:06 <planetmaker> yes 17:03:41 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature #1584 (New): Doc: generate gimp palette files from nml/palettes.py (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1584 17:06:49 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature #1584: Doc: generate gimp palette files from nml/palettes.py (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1584#change-4119 17:10:09 <Ammler> Yexo: how are you able to autodetect the palette but grfcodec or openttd isn't? 17:10:28 <Yexo> because nml reads the pcx files and the pcx files have the palette in the header 17:10:38 <planetmaker> :-) 17:10:40 <Yexo> grf files don't have that information 17:10:50 <Yexo> s/pcx/png/ if appropriate 17:10:53 <planetmaker> grfcodec can, btw 17:10:57 <Ammler> ah, stupid :-) 17:11:29 <planetmaker> I tried a few times to encode a rgb file... grfcodec severly complained ;-) 17:12:42 <Yexo> a rgb file doesn't have to be a problem for nml as long as only "valid' colors are used 17:13:28 <planetmaker> well. IF :-) 17:13:42 <planetmaker> And how to distinguish action colour from normal one? 17:13:49 <planetmaker> Or are they actually slightly different? 17:13:52 <Ammler> does pil have capability to convert or would oyu need to code that self? 17:14:07 <Yexo> probably code self, but it's very easy 17:14:17 <Yexo> basically just a lookup in a conversion table 17:14:38 <Ammler> also a kind of switch would be neded --noactioncolor --nocompanycolor 17:15:50 <Ammler> or only colors which need to be converted shouldn't convert to those, but keep already action/company colors 17:16:28 <Ammler> might be too complicated :-P 17:17:06 <Ammler> or automatically use 32bpp for those :-D 18:01:28 *** V453000 has quit IRC 18:02:04 *** V453000 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:11:14 <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: update from r20857 to r20858 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/32bpp-ez-patches/testing/r20858 18:21:09 <Brot6> clientpatches: update from r20857 to r20858 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/clientpatches/testing/r20858 18:31:02 <Brot6> serverpatches: update from h41d33c9e to hfabe84a5 done (2 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/serverpatches/testing/hfabe84a5 18:31:10 *** Seberoth2 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:43:34 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:51:42 <Brot6> NFORenum - Bug #1571 (Closed): Strange error report 134 for multiple ground sprites (George) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1571 18:51:42 <Brot6> NFORenum - Bug #1571 (Closed): Strange error report 134 for multiple ground sprites (frosch) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1571#change-4120 18:54:21 <frosch123> evening btw :) 18:58:37 <Rubidium> konbanwa 18:59:47 <frosch123> are you in the east again? 19:00:28 <Rubidium> nope, just listening to jpop 19:02:17 <Rubidium> not knowing what they sing makes it easier to write thesis stuff but to cancel out cars running by and such 19:05:25 <Rubidium> although I'm east of the prime meridian 20:13:55 *** Seberoth2 has quit IRC 20:14:02 *** Seberoth2 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:25:39 *** Seberoth2 has quit IRC 20:36:21 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 21:53:30 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:47:41 *** ODM has quit IRC 23:33:14 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 23:37:35 *** thgergo has quit IRC