Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 2nd October 2010:
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11:50:25  <fanioz> hello
11:55:38  * Rubidium guesses it's already evening where fanioz lives, right? So, good evening
11:56:13  <fanioz> that's right :D
12:36:48  * fanioz wondering how deep did Rubidium knows about Indonesia
12:39:39  <Rubidium> the parents of my parents' friends which whom we went on vacation when I was young came from Indonesia, so when we left we got a load of Indonesian treats (which sadly didn't last much more than the first half week of the vacation though)
12:41:58  <Rubidium> and I've read Max Havelaar, but I'm not sure how much of that applies to current Indonesia at all
12:44:31  <Rubidium> besides that it might be the fact that Indonesia has been a Dutch colony and as such it's part of our history lessons on school
12:45:52  <fanioz> 3. same :D
13:02:19  <Brot6> Indonesian Town Names - Revision 32:5fc945e3be5b: Codechange: Revert the update-able files of 'Ma... (fanioz) @
13:03:54  <Ammler> fanioz: devzone has forums too, you wouldn't need the google groups...
13:04:06  <fanioz> :D
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13:05:13  <Ammler> or use tt-forums, do you really expect big talks?
13:05:45  <fanioz> Ammler, that's group was use Bahasa Indonesia, which is I didn't knew yet is it allowed or not
13:06:44  <Ammler> why shouldn't it be allowed?
13:07:16  <fanioz> we are (mostly) discussing translation there
13:07:37  <Ammler> ah, I see
13:07:58  <Ammler> thought that is for the grf :-)
13:08:17  <fanioz> tt-forums only allow English, and I guess openttdcoop does
13:11:31  <Ammler> well, I guess, it works for you there, but if you like you can use the forums of your project, if that would make things easier...
13:14:31  <fanioz> thanks :D
13:15:06  <Ammler> if you do, just label the forums that way, so it is obvious for visitors which language to speak
13:15:50  <Ammler> do you use the indonesia location of Redmine?
13:16:14  <fanioz> did you mean localization?
13:16:26  <Ammler> yep, I did :-)
13:17:04  <fanioz> no, I was confused
13:17:07  <fanioz> :P
13:17:23  <Ammler> :-)
13:17:24  <fanioz> string break everywhere
13:17:39  <Ammler> that was I wondering...
13:18:14  <Ammler> oh wow, KVM seems to work now :-)
13:19:01  <Ammler> he, finally I am back at vz and kvm, same infra as we already have, just own host
13:19:43  <Ammler> webinterface and vnc to setup, looks nice
14:55:07  <Brot6> Indonesian Town Names - Revision 33:7cf96eeea784: Codechange: Ignore a line without probability n... (fanioz) @
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16:10:24  <Brot6> nml: update from r809 to r811 done -
16:11:53  * Alberth crosses fingers :)
16:13:10  <Ammler> should it break some nml projects?
16:19:45  <Brot6> indonesiantowns: update from r31 to r33 done (4 errors) -
16:20:23  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r615), 32bpp-extra (r39), ai-admiralai (r68), airportsplus (r63), basecosts (r22), belarusiantowns (r7), comic-houses (r71), firs (r1431), fish (r394), frenchtowns (r4), grfcodec (r772), heqs (r380), metrotrackset (r56), newgrf_makefile (r219), nforenum (r506), nml (r811), nutracks (r117), ogfx-trains (r32), ogfx-trees (r34), ogfxplus (r42), opengfx (r550), openmsx (r97),
16:20:23  <Brot6> opensfx (r97), smts (r5), snowlinemod (r45), swedishrails (r182), swisstowns (r20), transrapidtrackset (r15), ttdviewer (r25), ttrs (r23), worldairlinersset (r664)
16:24:14  <Brot6> swisstowns: rebuild of r20 done (Diffsize: 4731) (DiffDiffsize: 6625) -
16:24:24  <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: airportsplus, belarusiantowns (3 errors) (Diffsize: 21), frenchtowns (4 errors) (Diffsize: 9), ogfx-trains (1 errors), ogfxplus (Diffsize: 6), swedishrails
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16:29:04  <Ammler> now, that was expected, tomorrow counts :-)(
16:33:49  <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trees - Revision 35:2e4029258f59: Fix: Removed limits for toggle type parameters. (Froix) @
17:24:33  <Alberth> no, everything should work, and be deterministic :)
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18:12:08  <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: update from r20861 to r20873 done -
18:23:52  <Brot6> clientpatches: update from r20861 to r20872 done (4 errors) -
18:25:55  <Brot6> #openttdcoop Server Patch Pack - Bug #1585 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @
18:28:33  <Ammler> should apply to SmatZ ^ :-)
18:28:54  <Alberth> haven't seem him yet
18:31:55  <Ammler> is it possible to pipe something to 2 files at once?
18:32:44  <Ammler> having the seperate error log is fine for error counting
18:32:46  <Rubidium> tee?
18:33:10  <Ammler> Rubidium: I have no clue, how to use tee for stderr
18:34:41  <Rubidium> nforenum -qasd | tee /tmp/fees 2>&1 >/dev/null|tee /tmp/foes /tmp/faas
18:35:09  <Rubidium> order of the > things *is* important
18:35:32  <Ammler> well, I would like one file with both and one with err only
18:35:50  <Ammler> for counting errors
18:37:44  <Ammler> ah
18:37:47  <Ammler> hmm
19:59:54  <Ammler> <-- still in the repo, thought that is autogenerated now?
20:02:40  <Terkhen> it isn't
20:03:36  <planetmaker> hi
20:03:40  <Alberth> hi
20:09:00  <Ammler> heya planetmaker, the new system with openvz and kvm is btw. also more friendlier for non-windows user, managing just with web/vnc/console
20:09:27  <Ammler> and no ping losts :-)
20:10:09  <Ammler> and performanter as we might not use kvm at all
20:10:20  <Ammler> (but we can)
20:10:51  <Ammler> one kernel for every server
20:11:39  <Ammler> 2.6.32-4-pve <-- quite up to date
20:12:40  <Rubidium> and a LTS kernel :)
20:14:25  <Ammler> the host is based on debian lenny updated with the Proxmox
20:15:23  <Ammler> but I guess, we can life with that, there isn't much work on the host itself, except setup FW/NAT
20:15:23  <Rubidium> lenny with 2.6.32? Then it's not quite Lenny anymore
20:15:32  <Rubidium> loads of stuff must've been updated as well
20:15:36  <Rubidium> not just the kernel
20:15:52  <Rubidium> e.g. lenny udev or whatever it's called fails horribly with the 2.6.32 kernel
20:15:58  <Ammler> possible
20:16:08  <Ammler> around 40 packages
20:16:54  <Ammler> I had choice to use older kernels
20:18:23  <Ammler> but with .32, we get KSM (Kernel Samepage Merging)
20:18:36  <Ammler> which might be neat sometime :-)
20:19:13  <Ammler> and I like to stick with suse in the vz, which has very new kernels too
20:19:47  <Ammler> so I don't get those ugly differences anymore we had on our current vz with kernel .9
20:20:11  <Rubidium> Ammler: have you read their roadmap?
20:20:20  <Ammler> roadmap of?
20:20:24  <Rubidium> "Removed KSM (OpenVZ does not support KSM)"
20:20:31  <Ammler> lol
20:20:44  <Ammler> well, but KVM does
20:21:12  <Rubidium> but it seems to be removed alltogether from Proxmox VE 1.6 if you can believe the changelog
20:21:42  <planetmaker> Sounds awesome, Ammler :-)
20:22:13  <Ammler> Rubidium: true, well, I read the wrong article then
20:22:24  <Ammler> we use 1.6
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21:10:03  <Alberth> hmm, wasn't there a NML issue about adding comments in the generated NFO file?
21:16:26  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Code Review #1586 (New): Another way of allowing comments in NFO (Alberth) @
21:16:58  <Alberth> goof night
21:17:24  <Alberth> ah, you may keep the 'f' :)
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22:40:15  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Bug #1519 (Rejected): DevZone compile failed (planetmaker) @
22:42:29  <Brot6> Total Town Replacement Set - Bug #1523 (Rejected): DevZone compile failed (planetmaker) @
22:48:28  <Ammler> planetmaker: how can a ticket be invalid if it has a commit which fixes it?
22:48:38  <Ammler> :-)
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