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00:28:24 *** fanioz has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 00:58:13 *** ODM has quit IRC 01:35:23 *** fanioz has quit IRC 01:50:45 *** Webster has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 03:11:41 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trees - Revision 37:cb36b4eb66cb: Feature: Tree Graphics - added and edited tropical tree. (Froix) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trees/repository/revisions/cb36b4eb66cb 03:23:35 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trees - Revision 38:ff2f8a5892e2: Added tag 0.2.1 for changeset cb36b4eb66cb (Froix) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trees/repository/revisions/ff2f8a5892e2 03:25:24 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trees - Bug #1611 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1611 03:39:41 *** Froix has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 03:40:19 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trees - Bug #1611: DevZone compile failed (Froix) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1611#change-4161 04:00:44 *** Froix has quit IRC 07:42:17 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:42:36 <andythenorth_> hi hi 07:45:48 <andythenorth_> planetmaker: what do you think of Neko's suggestions? http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=907271#p907271 07:45:50 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums • View topic - FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Development (at www.tt-forums.net) 08:19:40 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 08:20:33 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:25:00 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:37:14 *** Alberth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:37:46 <Alberth> oi 08:37:50 <Rubidium> moi 08:38:08 <Alberth> you're in the wrong window :) 08:44:45 <Rubidium> really? 08:45:00 <Rubidium> the maker of planets is in here as well, ain't he? 08:46:38 <Alberth> sometimes, although he tends to move around in other windows too 08:51:56 <Alberth> hmm, linux starts looking like windows more and more, "I have updated a.random package, please log out and in again" :| 09:09:11 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 09:14:02 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:15:54 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:22:51 * Alberth throws andythenorth_ an anchor 09:23:17 <andythenorth_> "waving not drowning" 09:37:16 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:45:19 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1448:b43d3e721f01: Feature: Sand and Gravel Pit is now s... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/b43d3e721f01 09:50:45 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1449:6d4cceea0612: Cleanup: remove files and references ... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/6d4cceea0612 10:03:22 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1450:b4d706d75fa8: Fix: bug with Biorefinery intro date (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/b4d706d75fa8 10:03:22 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1275: Biorefinery (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1275#change-4162 10:08:06 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1451:b41966c186aa: Feature: Paper Mill industry window t... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/b41966c186aa 10:08:06 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1570: Some industry window texts wrong / incomplete (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1570#change-4163 10:24:44 * Alberth is glad andy decided not to include nuclear energy in FIRS 10:31:44 <andythenorth_> it's just not a very interesting cargo 10:36:59 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:37:41 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1452:b8175af8e60f: Feature: correct boost information fo... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/b8175af8e60f 10:37:41 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1570: Some industry window texts wrong / incomplete (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1570#change-4164 10:46:25 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1453:d28b16d5d75e: Feature: correct boost information fo... 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(andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1612 10:59:55 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #1613 (New): Railbus VT42 (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1613 11:03:42 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1614 (New): Forge missing industry window production texts (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1614 11:03:42 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1570 (Closed): Some industry window texts wrong / incomplete (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1570#change-4166 11:11:09 *** andythenorth__ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:12:58 *** ODM has quit IRC 11:13:45 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 11:27:15 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1601 (Closed): Change Sand Pit to Sand and Gravel Pit (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1601#change-4167 11:27:15 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1602 (Closed): Remove Gravel Pit (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1602#change-4168 11:29:45 *** TheODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:31:03 *** TheODM has quit IRC 11:51:47 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:38:17 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:46:21 *** thgergo has quit IRC 12:48:24 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:55:55 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1454:4092b10cd847: Change: more graphics in pcx for bior... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/4092b10cd847 12:55:55 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1455:201970cc1cb1: Add: psd for biorefinery (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/201970cc1cb1 13:07:44 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1456:e0cbb18e4c5e: Change: use placeholder boxes for bio... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/e0cbb18e4c5e 13:07:44 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1275 (Closed): Biorefinery (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1275#change-4170 13:07:44 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1615 (New): Biorefinery graphics (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1615 13:34:15 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1575 (Closed): Update changelog etc for 0.5 release (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1575#change-4171 13:38:03 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1457:7eb5df78bd92: Feature: bumped grfid for 0.5 (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/7eb5df78bd92 13:43:42 <Hirundo> andythenorth__: do farms just require farm supplies to increase production, or also >xx% transportation? 13:44:16 <andythenorth__> just to increase production 13:44:27 <andythenorth__> far as I know % transported is not under newgrf control 13:45:50 *** Yexo has quit IRC 13:48:03 *** thgergo has quit IRC 13:48:03 *** Alberth has quit IRC 13:48:03 *** seberoth has quit IRC 13:48:03 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 13:48:03 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 13:48:03 *** Ammler has quit IRC 13:48:11 <Hirundo> BTW, I found that the payment for farm cargos (fruit, milk, livestock) is relatively low 13:48:39 <andythenorth__> probably 13:48:45 <Hirundo> That makes non-clustered farms very hard to service without making a loss 13:48:54 <andythenorth__> I haven't really looked at the cargo payments :) 13:49:02 <Terkhen> andythenorth__: you should not modify ids in translations; if you do, they won't be listed as modified strings 13:49:12 <andythenorth__> ok 13:49:16 *** Yexo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:49:16 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:49:16 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:49:16 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:49:16 *** Alberth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:49:16 *** Ammler has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:49:16 *** seberoth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:49:35 <Terkhen> only TEXT_IND_QUARRY and TEXT_INFO_MANUFACTURINGSUPPLIES_STEPUP have been modified recently? 13:49:41 <andythenorth__> yep 13:51:05 <Terkhen> okay, thanks 14:19:34 *** Paul2 is now known as Twigman 14:59:03 <Brot6> SMITS - Revision 15:c97b44b83f8f: Add: graphic sprites for level crossings (Froix) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/smts/repository/revisions/c97b44b83f8f 14:59:03 <Brot6> SMITS - Revision 16:723059ab2604: Change: Update working source files. (Froix) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/smts/repository/revisions/723059ab2604 14:59:03 <Brot6> SMITS - Revision 17:43c5e3eca383: Feature: Very little shadow adjustments to graphics sprites. (Froix) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/smts/repository/revisions/43c5e3eca383 14:59:03 <Brot6> SMITS - Revision 18:4a58a23aa910: Cleanup: Some code fixing and repo cleanup. (Froix) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/smts/repository/revisions/4a58a23aa910 15:02:00 *** fanioz has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:02:49 <fanioz> hello, have a nice weekend 15:07:26 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1458:39d7567baa5d: Change: Update Spanish translation. (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/39d7567baa5d 15:08:36 <Brot6> SMITS - Revision 19:156a7ba60bc7: Fix: Wrong filename. Removed two lost pcx files. (Froix) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/smts/repository/revisions/156a7ba60bc7 15:11:39 <Brot6> AI-Trans - Revision 30:f923b768da36: Codechange: The Makefile need to find 150101 on Info.nut (fanioz) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ai-trans/repository/revisions/f923b768da36 15:11:39 <Brot6> AI-Trans - Code Review #1616 (New): Review request (fanioz) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1616 15:15:44 <Brot6> AI-Trans - Code Review #1616 (Closed): Review request (fanioz) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1616 15:15:44 <Brot6> AI-Trans - Code Review #1616 (Closed): Review request (fanioz) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1616#change-4172 15:24:06 <Brot6> AI-Trans - Revision 31:588fa3ea109f: Update: URL for our new Home (fanioz) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ai-trans/repository/revisions/588fa3ea109f 15:34:10 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1459:7ca268cb074e: Feature: Glass Works produces Buildin... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/7ca268cb074e 15:34:11 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1460:36a367e09044: Change: update changelog (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/36a367e09044 16:08:02 *** andythenorth__ has quit IRC 16:20:26 <Brot6> firs: update from r1447 to r1460 done (1 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r1460 16:21:11 <Brot6> ogfx-trees: update from r36 to r38 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-trees/nightlies/r38 16:21:52 <Brot6> smts: update from r14 to r19 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/smts/nightlies/r19 16:22:01 <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r615), 32bpp-extra (r39), ai-admiralai (r68), airportsplus (r63), basecosts (r22), belarusiantowns (r7), comic-houses (r71), fish (r394), frenchtowns (r4), grfcodec (r772), heqs (r380), indonesiantowns (r33), metrotrackset (r56), newgrf_makefile (r219), nforenum (r506), nml (r826), nutracks (r117), ogfx-trains (r40), opengfx (r550), openmsx (r97), opensfx (r97), snowlinemod 16:22:01 <Brot6> (r45), swedishrails (r182), swisstowns (r20), transrapidtrackset (r15), ttdviewer (r25), ttrs (r23), worldairlinersset (r664) 16:38:00 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #1617 (New): EF64 (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1617 16:52:37 *** Froix has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:55:27 *** Webster has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:55:53 <Froix> Is this something I can fix? -> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-trees/releases/ERROR/0.2.1/ogfx-trees-0.2.1-devzone.err.log 16:58:57 *** thgergo has quit IRC 17:00:27 <Alberth> most likely caused by a failing build process (ie there were no binaries generated, so they could not get copied 17:24:03 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #1618 (New): NSB EL10 (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1618 17:31:06 <Froix> the nightly did build fine though so I'll assume it's not something I can fix and leave it to you devzone guys. :) 17:33:20 <Froix> g'night! 17:33:24 *** Froix has quit IRC 18:10:53 <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: update from r20906 to r20911 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/32bpp-ez-patches/testing/r20911 18:17:08 *** fanioz has quit IRC 18:19:44 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:21:17 <Brot6> clientpatches: update from r20906 to r20911 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/clientpatches/testing/r20911 18:31:24 <Brot6> serverpatches: update from hafbeae3b to hfa4136ed done (2 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/serverpatches/testing/hfa4136ed 18:44:05 <Alberth> andythenorth_: http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/heqs_alignment.png alignment of heqs trucks, known issue? 18:45:18 <frosch123> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=47057 <- somewhat 18:45:20 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums • View topic - Length of vehicles in vehicle details/depot view (at www.tt-forums.net) 18:45:33 <frosch123> but noone wants to test my pony :'( 18:57:48 <andythenorth_> frosch123: sorry 18:57:54 <andythenorth_> I should test it :o 18:58:10 <andythenorth_> no planetmaker still? 18:58:37 <planetmaker> hm? 18:58:50 <planetmaker> I just returned home. 18:58:52 <planetmaker> what's up? 19:01:45 <planetmaker> hm... 19:01:51 <planetmaker> I'd keep grain. It's generic enough 19:02:02 <planetmaker> Personally I don't like 'produce' 19:02:15 <planetmaker> sounds too similar to 'product' 19:02:38 <planetmaker> calling the sand and gravel pit quarry instead sounds fine to me. 19:02:56 <planetmaker> nuclear is a no-no. Too close to war-related themes 19:03:07 <planetmaker> ^ andythenorth_ 19:06:17 <Alberth> good evening planetmaker 19:06:25 <planetmaker> hello Alberth :-) 19:08:14 <Alberth> luckily, de hg devs take more time fixing my issue than it costs to register at their tracker :p 19:08:32 <planetmaker> :-P 19:17:25 <planetmaker> but... is hg broken? :-) 19:17:51 <Alberth> pretty much, if you look at their issue list :) 19:18:31 <Alberth> I tried hg qrm x x (the same patch twice) by accident, and it messes up the queue 19:19:32 <Alberth> the file gets deleted, but not in 'hg qseries' 19:27:26 <andythenorth_> planetmaker: thanks 19:27:42 <andythenorth_> firs 0.5 is ready to go apart from translations 19:27:54 <planetmaker> oye 19:28:02 <planetmaker> Alberth: interesting. I shall mind that :-) 19:28:08 <planetmaker> I use queues meanwhile a lot :-) 19:28:36 <Alberth> it iook me several years to encounter that case :) 19:28:44 <planetmaker> :-) 19:29:01 <planetmaker> well... I called it hg qdelete, but I just used it 2 days ago 19:29:41 <andythenorth_> planetmaker: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/issues?fixed_version_id=121&set_filter=1&status_id=o 19:29:58 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1576 (Closed): Change grfid for 0.5 release (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1576#change-4173 19:30:04 <planetmaker> did you just move or close issues? :-P 19:30:14 <Alberth> you can easily fix the problem by editing the .hg/patches/series file 19:30:29 <planetmaker> yes, I know. That's what I did previously, actually 19:31:25 <andythenorth_> mostly closed issues 19:31:28 <andythenorth_> some moved to 0.5.1 19:33:58 <planetmaker> andythenorth_: so... is the sand and gravel pit renamed? 19:34:04 <andythenorth_> yes 19:34:09 <planetmaker> hm... 19:34:17 <planetmaker> it doesn't show a changed string 19:35:15 <andythenorth_> I screwed up 19:35:19 <planetmaker> hm. You renamed the IDs also in the translation files 19:35:23 <andythenorth_> I also changed the defines in the same commit 19:35:28 <andythenorth_> refactoring == good 19:35:28 <planetmaker> meh 19:35:31 <andythenorth_> but not in this case 19:35:33 <andythenorth_> sorry 19:35:38 <andythenorth_> terkhen already slapped me for it :) 19:35:39 <planetmaker> I've no idea what you changed and what I have to check now :-( 19:35:50 <planetmaker> I've no time today to review the whole thing 19:35:58 <andythenorth_> I can tell you 19:36:02 <andythenorth_> name of quarry 19:36:32 <andythenorth_> and I changed a define for a string, but not the actual string....let me find it 19:37:20 <andythenorth_> changed an existing define to this: TEXT_INFO_MANUFACTURINGSUPPLIES_STEPUP 19:37:24 <andythenorth_> the string doesn't change 19:37:31 <andythenorth_> otherwise just the quarry 19:37:49 <planetmaker> description of glass works maybe? 19:38:17 <planetmaker> boost info for aluminum plant? 19:38:26 <planetmaker> paper mill info? 19:38:30 <andythenorth_> no string changes 19:38:40 <planetmaker> ok 19:38:43 <andythenorth_> all just changes of defines 19:38:58 <andythenorth_> nfo_lang.pnfo only 19:39:26 <planetmaker> hm... Quarry... Steinbruch? 19:39:32 <planetmaker> Sandgrube? 19:39:33 <planetmaker> hm... 19:39:43 <planetmaker> Sandgrube und Steinbruch? 19:41:11 <andythenorth_> steinbruch is stone pit? 19:42:06 <planetmaker> no. quarry ;-) 19:42:54 <planetmaker> I just ponder whether I find a way to let the name reflect that it also supplies sand 19:42:57 <planetmaker> But I fail 19:43:08 <andythenorth_> I wouldn't worry about it 19:43:17 <andythenorth_> in English it's ambiguous what it supplies 19:44:05 <planetmaker> well... we have 'sand pit' equivalent and 'quarry' equivalent. And when you give me those words I associate destinclty different looks with them 19:44:13 <planetmaker> But I guess it doesn't matter that much 19:44:33 <planetmaker> But I don't expect sand to come from a place where stone is hewn into pieces out of a mountain side 19:45:02 <andythenorth_> sand pit would probably be more common in UK english 19:45:13 <andythenorth_> but sand quarry is valid too 19:45:17 <planetmaker> but not for stones, I assume? ;-) 19:45:33 <andythenorth_> not for stones 19:45:39 <andythenorth_> sand and gravel quarry could be 19:46:16 <planetmaker> http://www.google.com/images?oe=UTF-8&gfns=1&q=steinbruch 19:46:17 <Webster> Title: steinbruch - Google Search (at www.google.com) 19:46:47 <planetmaker> steinbruch. 19:47:28 <planetmaker> pull 19:47:41 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1461:56c538439d8c: Change: Update German translation (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/56c538439d8c 19:49:07 <andythenorth_> that just leaves polish and dutch 19:49:12 <andythenorth_> polish there's a file for 19:49:28 <andythenorth_> dutch needs foobar - I'm going to ship without ;) 19:49:58 <Alberth> what Dutch texts need translation? 19:50:11 <andythenorth_> not sure 19:50:20 <andythenorth_> I don't know how up to date it is 19:50:37 <andythenorth_> planetmaker: I'm not really sure what to do with this: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1588 19:51:04 <planetmaker> Alberth: there's a check_languages script ;-) 19:51:30 <Alberth> I need a repo first :) 19:52:57 <planetmaker> :-) 19:53:02 <planetmaker> andythenorth_: I'll take a look 19:53:09 <planetmaker> it needs somehow being committed 19:53:13 <planetmaker> it's nearly up2date 19:53:23 <planetmaker> I *think* 19:54:57 <Terkhen> planetmaker: I'm thinking about modifying the script: it would ignore all strings modified in the main language file before the last time the translation was updated 19:55:54 <planetmaker> Terkhen: would it make sense? 19:55:55 <Alberth> hmm, why does it dump all stuff in remove_defines.pnfo ? 19:56:10 <planetmaker> Alberth: that's used for all languages 19:56:34 <planetmaker> Terkhen: it may be right often, but fail sometimes. Maybe as an option? 19:56:55 <Terkhen> Alberth: use a part of the filename as first parameter 19:56:59 <planetmaker> Alberth: each language only defines its strings. And they need undefining 19:57:07 <planetmaker> or gcc will complain about re-definition 19:57:10 <planetmaker> which is ugly 19:57:40 <planetmaker> oh... that way was the question.... yes. 19:58:04 <Terkhen> planetmaker: IMO it would very useful; right now I have a big list of modified strings because of the resortings 19:58:13 <planetmaker> yes, I have some, too 19:58:28 <planetmaker> but leaving the current behaviour as an option might make sense 19:59:58 <Terkhen> okay, I'll look into it after 0.5 20:00:51 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:00:52 <planetmaker> :-) 20:01:19 <andythenorth_> seems like code prettifying / refactoring causes problems maintaining translations? 20:02:31 <Terkhen> as long as it does not touch any language file besides 7F_any, it should be fine 20:02:59 <andythenorth_> maybe there should be a web translation system.... 20:03:01 <Terkhen> hmmm... if you are just renaming ids without changing their string it should be fine too 20:03:09 <Terkhen> well, there is one :P 20:04:52 <planetmaker> I guess I can commit the Polish. Objections? 20:04:59 <planetmaker> It will miss two or three strings, but... 20:05:05 <planetmaker> not my main concern ;-) 20:05:12 <planetmaker> that's a fix for 0.5.1 ;-) 20:05:54 <andythenorth_> fine by me 20:08:43 <Alberth> is there a relation between 'any' and 'dutch' file? (eg order of lines) 20:08:44 <planetmaker> ok 20:08:59 <planetmaker> Alberth: probably currently not. But it'd be good, if it were ;-) 20:09:38 <planetmaker> language files were restructured somewhat recently. Sorting things alphabetically 20:10:15 <andythenorth_> (alphabetically in English that is) :P 20:10:20 <andythenorth_> I only thought afterwards that might be inconvenient for others 20:10:25 <planetmaker> Alphabetically by ID? 20:10:27 <andythenorth_> it seemed good at the time 20:10:34 <planetmaker> it's good 20:11:06 <planetmaker> alphabetically by ID is fine. Given the 'big' structure which sorts the completely different strings in its own sections 20:12:40 * andythenorth_ wonders how many downloads FIRS 0.5 will get 20:12:54 <andythenorth_> 0.4 has a disappointingly low number :) 20:13:00 <planetmaker> it's a function of time and availability, you know ;-) 20:13:16 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1462:8d89e74fd928: Change: fix alphabetical positioning ... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/8d89e74fd928 20:14:21 <planetmaker> I'll keep 'sand pit' for 'quarry' in Polish 20:14:59 <andythenorth_> then we can soon ship :) 20:15:22 <Terkhen> :) 20:15:38 <planetmaker> Polish updated 20:17:35 <andythenorth_> win 20:17:44 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1463:33ed554132ef: Change: Update Polish translation (Ba... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/33ed554132ef 20:18:06 <andythenorth_> that just leaves dutch :) 20:18:35 <planetmaker> :-) 20:18:41 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Code Review #1588 (Feedback): Fixed Polish translation (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1588#change-4174 20:19:06 <planetmaker> andythenorth_: are you positive that there'll be a 0.5.1? 20:19:12 <andythenorth_> no 20:19:20 <andythenorth_> but there'll be a 0.5.x 20:19:21 <planetmaker> :-D 20:19:26 <planetmaker> ok 20:19:36 <andythenorth_> I'm sticking to '0.x' => grfid bump 20:19:41 <planetmaker> hm... translations might actually be a good motivation :-) 20:20:12 <planetmaker> I kinda promised the Polish guy that the next update he makes would be in 0.5.1 - if he provides it by then ;-) 20:20:35 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trees - Bug #1608 (Reopened): Trees are not enabled by default (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1608#change-4175 20:20:40 <Ammler> you still have remove_define in the repo, btw. 20:21:36 <planetmaker> it's still not written by a script, you know... 20:21:50 <Ammler> pm, why didn't trees build? 20:22:05 <planetmaker> package conflicts, I *think* 20:22:12 <planetmaker> grfcodec 5 vs. nforenum4 20:22:44 <planetmaker> I'm not 100% positive, but I think it's a CF issue 20:23:43 <planetmaker> And I didn't find the CF project in a quick scan or I'd have it assigned to you ;-) 20:24:11 <andythenorth_> Alberth: you're updating FIRS dutch? 20:24:29 <Alberth> trying to 20:24:54 <planetmaker> andythenorth_: just FYI: if you want translations in more languages: Ask in the forums. Provide the English file. And give people _two weeks_ 20:25:11 <planetmaker> and only then call it a release 20:25:28 <andythenorth_> so feature freeze -> two weeks -> release? 20:25:40 <planetmaker> two weeks is my experience what will give you most without loosing those which are willing to help but not online 24/7 20:25:55 <planetmaker> andythenorth_: not really. But no changes which require strings changing 20:26:13 <planetmaker> you can work on graphics and layouts... 20:27:06 <Brot6> ogfx-trees: update from 0.2.0 to 0.2.1 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-trees/releases/0.2.1 20:32:54 <Ammler> planetmaker: yes, it was nforenum conflict 20:34:12 <Ammler> anyway 0.2.1 is not really nice release with red as active and green as off :-) 20:34:52 <planetmaker> :-) 20:35:56 <Ammler> pm, will you close #1611? 20:35:56 <Brot6> Ammler: pm: #1611 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/1611 "OpenGFX+ Trees - Bug #1611: DevZone compile failed - #openttdcoop Development Zone" 20:36:18 <planetmaker> solved? 20:36:19 <planetmaker> ok 20:37:11 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trees - Bug #1611 (Closed): DevZone compile failed (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1611#change-4176 20:37:48 <Terkhen> andythenorth_: once you finish with FIRS 0.5.0, could you please check #1558? 20:37:48 <Brot6> Terkhen: andythenorth_: #1558 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/1558 "HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Bug #1558: Replaced standard road vehicles - #openttdcoop Development Zone" 20:38:23 <planetmaker> :-) 20:38:24 <Brot6> #openttdcoop - Revision 130:e42b5343a66d: [Compiler] Another IhavenoideawhatIhavedone or we call ... (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/repository/revisions/e42b5343a66d 20:40:30 <andythenorth_> Terkhen: how about I deactivate HEQS if there's no eGRVTS :D 20:40:32 <andythenorth_> ? 20:41:34 <Terkhen> I won't be able to use HEQS in standard games / toyland then 20:41:42 <andythenorth_> brrr toyland 20:41:46 <Terkhen> :D 20:41:47 <andythenorth_> I should make a set of toy HEQS 20:41:51 <andythenorth_> tonka toys 20:42:07 <andythenorth_> http://www.google.co.uk/images?client=safari&rls=en&q=tonka%20toys&oe=UTF-8&redir_esc=&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1265&bih=668 20:42:08 <Webster> Title: tonka toys - Google Search (at www.google.co.uk) 20:42:40 <Terkhen> that's exactly what I have in mind when using HEQS in toyland :P 20:44:15 <Terkhen> besides, I find that eGRVTS has too many vehicles... standard (or OpenGFX+ road vehicles when it gets done) + HEQS is perfect for me 20:45:13 <planetmaker> hm... OpenGFX+ RV... only three trams so far, I think. But that's not made a separate grf yet 20:45:31 <planetmaker> that's still in OpenGFXPlus, though 20:46:02 <Alberth> brick works makes bricks for houses, I assume 20:46:13 <planetmaker> also, yes 20:46:47 <Terkhen> it would be complete for me with a few refittable road vehicles, as done for wagons in ogfx+ trains 20:46:58 <planetmaker> aye :-) 20:46:59 <planetmaker> true 20:47:07 <planetmaker> well. The trams need to be part ;-) 20:48:07 <andythenorth_> Terkhen: check out HEQS and patch it :) 20:48:18 <Ammler> hmm, does that happen with engine pool enabled? 20:48:49 <andythenorth_> probably does yes 20:49:22 <planetmaker> Ammler: default vehicles are easily overwritten... 20:49:36 <andythenorth_> HEQS is part-way through conversion to defines for IDs 20:50:04 <Alberth> TEXT_IND_BUILDERSYARD and TEXT_IND_LIMEKILN ? 20:50:34 <andythenorth_> Alberth: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lime_kiln 20:50:35 <Webster> Title: Lime kiln - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 20:50:52 <Ammler> andythenorth_: or alert if engine pool is disabled 20:50:56 <Terkhen> andythenorth_: are you following any order for IDs in HEQS? 20:51:09 <andythenorth_> Terkhen: there is/was a schema for them 20:51:19 <andythenorth_> if they all move to defined IDs it matters less 20:51:37 <andythenorth_> but all trailing parts of aRVs have to be <128 20:51:49 <planetmaker> hm, yes 20:52:44 <Ammler> pm, maybe ogfx+rv could add the default engines, so the other orignals.grf isn't needed 20:52:51 <Terkhen> I can write a patch, but I'd only bother with it if the new IDs are good enough to eventually commit it 20:53:37 <planetmaker> andythenorth_: all and including 87 are taken by default vehicles 20:54:01 <andythenorth_> 87h or 87d? 20:54:06 <planetmaker> 87d 20:54:23 <planetmaker> I'd have spellt 87h as 0x87 ;-) 20:54:39 <andythenorth_> that leaves enough for trailers 20:54:40 <Alberth> andythenorth_: thanks, got a description of TEXT_IND_BUILDERSYARD too ? 20:54:46 <andythenorth_> looking... 20:55:13 <planetmaker> Alberth: like the municipaltiy's place to store construction stuff 20:55:21 <andythenorth_> builders yard could be any of... 20:55:25 <andythenorth_> builders merchant: http://www.jewson.co.uk/homepage.jsp?_requestid=1833448 20:55:27 <Webster> Title: Jewson Builders Merchant - Building Materials and Supplies (at www.jewson.co.uk) 20:56:28 <andythenorth_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_contractor 20:56:29 <Webster> Title: General contractor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 20:56:57 <andythenorth_> or municipal yard as planetmaker said 20:57:56 <Ammler> [22:49] <planetmaker> Ammler: default vehicles are easily overwritten... <-- nobody does play without engine pool anymore 20:57:57 <Alberth> the latter seems to be owned by the local goverment 20:58:16 <planetmaker> Ammler: an idea indeed. It shall be a parameter. 20:58:33 <planetmaker> I'll need to (re-)define anyway those which I modify. So... maybe not even a parameter 20:58:38 <Ammler> but engine pool does disable the default vehicels 20:58:45 <planetmaker> Ammler: no 20:58:54 <planetmaker> Only newgrf disable them 20:58:54 <Ammler> so you need to add those again, that is orginals.grf for, afaik 20:59:12 <planetmaker> Engine pool does not make them unavailable 20:59:42 <planetmaker> just try ogfx+trains. 20:59:46 <planetmaker> you'll have all default 20:59:52 <planetmaker> just some re-defined 20:59:52 <Ammler> Terkhen: why do you need support for no vehicle pool? 21:01:38 <Terkhen> if you mean "Enable multiple NewGRF engine sets", it is on 21:01:58 <Terkhen> IIRC it did not protect standard engines from being overwritten 21:03:29 <Terkhen> I did not know about that original engines grf, it seems to solve the issue 21:04:33 <Alberth> http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/diffs/firs_dutch_additions.patch 21:04:49 <andythenorth_> ach stick it in 21:04:55 <andythenorth_> if it compiles...ship it :P 21:05:35 <andythenorth_> I'll try it 21:05:54 <Ammler> planetmaker: if there is a rv grf, default rvs will be disabled 21:06:09 <planetmaker> no 21:06:16 <Ammler> or did that change? 21:06:23 <planetmaker> or should it be different for RV than for trains? 21:06:31 <planetmaker> I guess all RV grfs just DO that 21:06:37 <planetmaker> but they explicitly do so 21:06:38 <Ammler> hmm 21:07:02 <andythenorth_> if there is an rv grf using same ids as default rvs, default will be disabled 21:07:08 <planetmaker> hm... no. It works. OpenGFX+ successfully just added the trams 21:07:16 <planetmaker> andythenorth_: sure 21:07:37 <planetmaker> and most newgrf do that. For the sake of TTDP compatibility 21:07:47 <Terkhen> the original engines grf also readds standard ships when using FISH, and I was happy without them 21:07:54 <Ammler> ogfx+trains didn't define all? 21:07:58 <planetmaker> nope 21:08:04 <planetmaker> It only defines the turbotrain engine 21:08:07 <planetmaker> and 4 wagons 21:08:08 <Alberth> andythenorth_: to be clear on the matter, you do the merge? (not that there is much choice, luckily) 21:08:10 <planetmaker> or 5 21:08:11 <planetmaker> dunno 21:08:40 <planetmaker> Alberth: it was meant as commit yourself ;-) 21:08:51 <planetmaker> (I'm 97.8% sure of that ;-) ) 21:09:03 <Alberth> hence my question, I have no access rights there, luckily 21:09:04 <andythenorth_> wait for next brot announcement 21:09:06 <Ammler> I thought, it does disable all 21:09:12 <Ammler> but it seems only those which are defined 21:09:13 * Terkhen ponders coding a small grf just to define all standard road vehicles 21:09:21 <planetmaker> oh he. you con't commit via ssh, right? 21:09:22 <andythenorth_> Terkhen: would work 21:09:34 <andythenorth_> but HEQS needs moving to defines anyway.... 21:09:36 <Ammler> so heqs should simply disable all rvs first 21:09:39 <planetmaker> Terkhen: then do it in NML and call it OpenGFX+RV ;-) 21:09:45 <planetmaker> it'd be a good start 21:09:50 <Ammler> then you can add originals.grf 21:09:58 <andythenorth_> Ammler: why disable default rvs? 21:10:05 <planetmaker> Ammler: exactly 21:10:05 <andythenorth_> HEQS is quite different to default 21:10:07 <planetmaker> why? 21:10:08 <Terkhen> yeah, originals.grf works, but it also adds standard ships and I hate them 21:10:15 <Alberth> planetmaker: I assumed the project needs to list me as someone it knows first :) 21:10:24 <Ammler> aren't some rvs twice now? 21:10:26 <planetmaker> Alberth: not if you use ssh in order to commit 21:10:42 <Alberth> oh, ok 21:10:48 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1464:f555196b6b1c: Feature: update Dutch translation (Al... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/f555196b6b1c 21:10:49 <planetmaker> not sure whether you use ssh or your redmine credentials 21:10:52 <Terkhen> planetmaker: how should I start? cloning newgrf_makefile? 21:11:10 <planetmaker> Terkhen: not cloning ;-) 21:11:10 <Terkhen> Ammler: no, they appear only once 21:11:25 <planetmaker> Easiest, if you ask me, is to copy OpenGFX+Trains 21:11:30 <Alberth> planetmaker: neither do I :) 21:11:32 <Alberth> good night 21:11:36 <andythenorth_> who wants to do the release :) 21:11:36 <andythenorth_> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/versions/show/121 21:11:39 <planetmaker> And just cut away everything related to trains 21:11:42 <Ammler> also, that originals.grf should be renamed to defaults.grf 21:11:44 <planetmaker> g'night Alberth 21:11:45 <Terkhen> good night Alberth 21:11:48 <andythenorth_> good night 21:11:50 <Ammler> and uploaded to bananas 21:12:12 *** Alberth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 21:12:26 <andythenorth_> I am not releasing tonight (tired) 21:12:32 <planetmaker> good choice 21:12:34 <andythenorth_> but if any of you want to, feel free :) 21:12:36 <Terkhen> planetmaker: okay, let's see what I can do 21:12:39 <planetmaker> a release when tired always fails 21:12:44 <andythenorth_> it's all commited 21:12:49 <planetmaker> changelog? 21:12:52 <andythenorth_> yup done 21:12:53 <planetmaker> readme update? 21:12:54 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Support #1598 (Closed): Update translations prior to 0.5 (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1598#change-4177 21:12:57 <andythenorth_> hmm 21:13:00 <andythenorth_> didn't do the readme 21:13:46 <planetmaker> Terkhen: I could also create the project for you kinda empty and you start... 21:15:13 <Terkhen> planetmaker: whichever is easier :) 21:15:14 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1619 (New): Update readme for 0.5 (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1619 21:15:23 <planetmaker> Terkhen: depends for whom ;-) 21:15:24 <Ammler> planetmaker: what happens, if you add originals.grf? 21:15:32 <planetmaker> Ammler: I never did, I guess 21:15:36 <Ammler> you have some engines twice? 21:16:05 <Terkhen> newgrf_makefile should be the default starting point, right? 21:16:40 <Ammler> andythenorth_: no, it is fine 21:16:41 <planetmaker> Well. Easier would be to copy the trains one and just edit a few things. As it's configured for NML and you have the whole structure nicley 21:17:02 <Terkhen> okay, then I'll do that 21:17:03 <planetmaker> ogfx-trains is quite up to date. 21:17:13 <planetmaker> newgrf-makefile is by default configured for NFO still 21:17:14 <Ammler> andythenorth_: I thought, if you add originals.grf, the defaults are twice, which seems not the case 21:17:16 <planetmaker> so more work ;-) 21:17:34 <Ammler> Alberth: has no ssh access 21:17:43 <planetmaker> ok 21:18:18 <planetmaker> Terkhen: if you like... I should have done it by half past 11 ;-) 21:18:36 <Terkhen> what, the empty project? 21:19:00 <planetmaker> the configured project w/o any changes but a GRFID and name 21:19:28 <Terkhen> oh, great :) 21:21:57 <andythenorth_> /me bed time 21:21:59 <andythenorth_> good night 21:22:10 <Terkhen> good night andythenorth_ 21:22:21 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 21:23:08 <Ammler> Terkhen: clone newgrf_makefile and run ./update ../newrepo 21:26:40 <Terkhen> does it need much changes to use NML? 21:26:48 <Ammler> pm, create the project before 23.21 ;-) 21:27:36 <Ammler> ah, 28 is still pre half past 21:27:42 <planetmaker> hm? 21:28:05 <Brot6> repository /home/ottdc/hg-repos/ogfx-rv registered in Redmine with url /home/ottdc/hg-repos/ogfx-rv 21:28:05 <Brot6> repository /home/ottdc/hg-repos/ogfx-rv created 21:28:20 <Ammler> (the cron does create new repos every 7 minutes) 21:28:40 <Ammler> nightly andy 21:30:27 <planetmaker> ah 21:32:38 <planetmaker> damn. two minutes too slow :-( 21:32:48 <planetmaker> ^ Terkhen :-) 21:32:59 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Road Vehicles - Revision 0:364f6595d84d: Add: Initial import (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-rv/repository/revisions/364f6595d84d 21:33:08 <planetmaker> default = http://dev.openttdcoop.org/hg/ogfx-rv 21:33:48 <Terkhen> thank you :) 21:33:57 <planetmaker> you're welcome :-) 21:34:11 <planetmaker> It compiles. It has the proper name. 21:34:24 <planetmaker> But... I didn't check everything closely. But... *should* work 21:34:33 <planetmaker> credits should also be right ;-) 21:35:11 <planetmaker> as .hgignore and description 21:36:05 <Terkhen> make outputs "cat: ogfx-rv.nml: No such file or directory" two times, but it builds and installs fine 21:36:20 <planetmaker> yes. Known bug :-( 21:36:40 <planetmaker> makefile bug actually 21:36:49 <planetmaker> but of no consequence 21:36:52 <Terkhen> okay 21:37:17 <planetmaker> so... rather glitch than bug :-) 21:38:35 <Terkhen> hmmm... I'm thinking on a parameter to decide between "redefine all standard road vehicles" or "use only the refittable vehicles" 21:39:40 <planetmaker> Well. I'd go a similar approach like for train wagons: 21:40:06 <planetmaker> I defined about 5. But a bulk wagon refitted to coal uses default coal. ore default ore graphics etc 21:40:09 <planetmaker> Then you don't need that 21:40:32 *** ODM has quit IRC 21:40:35 <planetmaker> you just use the "new" ones, but still have all 21:40:48 <planetmaker> BUT it'd give new graphics for those using the TTD base set 21:40:57 <planetmaker> which is what ogfx+trains does 21:41:21 <planetmaker> but otherwise I cannot show different graphics for different cargos etc (all varaction2 stuff requires my own graphics there, IIRC) 21:41:37 <planetmaker> if it doesn't... I'm happy to learn differently 21:42:06 <planetmaker> In any case: I'd first start with just modifying a truck which becomes refittable 21:42:22 <planetmaker> And worry about the parameter later when we have also with vehicles all cargos covered 21:42:37 <planetmaker> Maybe it's a good idea to copy the CTT from the trains 21:42:50 <planetmaker> and to use even the refit scheme as for those wagons. 21:42:53 <planetmaker> but not sure 21:43:33 <Terkhen> yes, the refit scheme should be identical 21:43:55 <Terkhen> I still don't know anything about varactions so I can't help you there :P 21:44:03 <planetmaker> then 5 trucks shall be fine 21:44:12 <planetmaker> Terkhen: just look at one wagon :-) 21:44:21 <planetmaker> very easy if you look at it 21:45:32 <planetmaker> switch (FEAT_ROADVEHICLE, SELF, some_switch_name, cargo_label) { ... } 21:45:36 <planetmaker> or alike 21:46:31 <planetmaker> backdraw of the method: you really need to supply all sprites anew 21:47:04 <planetmaker> which is quite a bit of work 21:47:27 <planetmaker> it was easy for the wagons as I got those sprites already in a very very convenient format 21:47:51 <Terkhen> it seems to be missing an entry for readme.txt at .hgignore 21:48:02 <planetmaker> oh, yes, might be :-) 21:51:42 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:54:38 <Ammler> planetmaker: is ogfx-trains on bananas, if no, why not? :-) 21:54:54 <planetmaker> Ammler: it's not (yet) 21:55:40 <planetmaker> why not? It's still in its infancy. But it could actually go there as 0.1.0 when I disable current maglev and monorail wagons 21:56:00 <planetmaker> possibly it should go there quickly ;-) 21:56:18 <Terkhen> hmm... it seems that the first commit will be a cleanup :P 21:56:23 <planetmaker> :-P 21:56:28 <planetmaker> did I miss so much? 21:58:36 <Terkhen> the readme.txt from ogfx-trains is in the repo 21:58:46 <Terkhen> besides that everything seems fine 21:59:06 <planetmaker> yes, there's a readme... but... isn't it saying ogfx-rv? 21:59:19 <planetmaker> I *did* change the readme... 21:59:27 <planetmaker> did I change it in the wrong dir? 21:59:42 <Terkhen> readme.ptxt is fine 21:59:56 <Terkhen> but the old readme.txt is in the repo too 21:59:57 <planetmaker> yes. There's a readme.txt in the repo? 22:00:00 <planetmaker> damn 22:00:08 <planetmaker> that must go 22:00:16 <Terkhen> yeah, I'm commiting it out 22:00:20 <planetmaker> thanks 22:00:55 <planetmaker> oh... readme.txt, 5. License: Add your name. There I forgot it 22:00:58 <Ammler> pm, and add default.grf :-) 22:01:13 <planetmaker> Ammler: I'm not an author of it. 22:01:31 <planetmaker> also the license chapter still has wrong links 22:02:51 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Road Vehicles - Revision 1:a51882f8ec84: Cleanup: Remove an unneeded file. (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-rv/repository/revisions/a51882f8ec84 22:09:49 <Terkhen> hmmm... UTF-8 22:11:22 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Road Vehicles - Revision 2:4aae51fa7f3f: Doc: Correct license part of the readme. (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-rv/repository/revisions/4aae51fa7f3f 22:14:44 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Road Vehicles - Revision 3:753827e2a978: Fix: convert readme.ptxt to UTF-8. (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-rv/repository/revisions/753827e2a978 22:15:20 <Terkhen> ^ this proves that I should get some sleep before going on with this 22:15:23 <Terkhen> good night 22:15:36 <planetmaker> :-D 22:15:39 <planetmaker> Good night 22:24:54 <Ammler> [00:01] <planetmaker> Ammler: I'm not an author of it. <-- of? 22:25:28 <Ammler> I meant, you should add all default vehicles to the ogfx+ 22:26:11 <planetmaker> ah 22:26:30 <planetmaker> actually, as said: I'm not sure it really makes sense when I want all cargos 22:26:47 <planetmaker> It then IMHO makes sense to re-define a few and give them many refit options. 22:27:04 <planetmaker> Where those refit options are those default vehicles 22:27:22 <planetmaker> And it'd make the purchase list a bit less bulky 22:27:43 <planetmaker> Like one flatbed truck being refit to wood, steel, piece goods (containers) 22:27:59 <planetmaker> where for wood and steel the default steel + wood sprites would be used 22:28:33 <planetmaker> it just doesn't make sense to provide about 50 trucks, one for each cargo type 22:28:56 <planetmaker> personally I like refitable vehicles also more: you can use them for more interesting orders 22:51:14 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 41:aea0e011faa1: Add: Maglev and Monorail support for the (default) ta... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/aea0e011faa1 22:51:14 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 42:e05a4c3d271f: Add: Some sort of crude tracking table (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/e05a4c3d271f 22:54:45 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 43:4b6403e2bc08: Add: Maglev and Monorail support for the (default) fl... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/4b6403e2bc08 22:57:37 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 44:ba4754ebfeda: Add: Maglev and Monorail support for the (default) pi... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/ba4754ebfeda 23:00:47 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 45:02efd369fe6b: Add: Maglev and Monorail support for the (default) re... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/02efd369fe6b 23:15:25 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 46:357bbeee1c03: Change: Remove unneeded monorail and maglev wagons (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/357bbeee1c03 23:15:25 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 47:6b394cf1ad56: Fix (r41-r45): Use unique identifiers. It really helps (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/6b394cf1ad56 23:17:13 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Feature #1620 (New): Use separate sprites for maglev and monorail tank wagon (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1620 23:19:40 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Feature #1621 (New): Special sprites for monorail and maglev flatbed wagon (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1621 23:19:41 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Feature #1622 (New): Special sprites for monorail and maglev piecegoods wagon (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1622 23:19:41 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Feature #1623 (New): Special sprites for monorail and maglev refrigerated wagon (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1623