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Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 29th October 2010:
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08:50:05  <planetmaker> moin
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08:53:54  <dihedral> hello pm
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10:27:31  <dihedral> i thought the bouncer was on osai's server
10:27:40  <planetmaker> there's one there and one here
10:27:50  <dihedral> ah ^^
10:27:59  <dihedral> poor him
10:28:06  <planetmaker> ?
10:28:22  <dihedral> nobody is using his server appart from his kendo team and himself ^^
10:28:32  <planetmaker> I use that bouncer
10:28:39  <planetmaker> it hosts openttdcoop www
10:28:50  <planetmaker> others also use that bouncer
10:28:52  <dihedral> ah, ok :-)
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10:34:23  <andythenorth> no brot?
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10:50:48  <Ammler> http://www.proxmox.com/
10:50:59  <Webster> Title: Proxmox - Start page (at www.proxmox.com)
10:51:47  <dihedral> that mixes kvm and openvz?
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10:54:19  <planetmaker> Ammler, last time I looked the money wasn't drawn.
10:54:26  <Ammler> ?
10:54:37  <planetmaker> for the server
10:54:54  <planetmaker> nothing related to paypal ;-)
10:54:59  <Ammler> ah
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10:55:14  <Ammler> if I finish the migration this weekend
10:55:24  <planetmaker> <andythenorth> do you need donations? <-- as Ammler says, they're certainly welcome :-)
10:55:38  <Ammler> we could withdraw the last month and say that the server was down most time anyway
10:55:52  <planetmaker> As long as we don't get more than 600€ a year it will all go into paying for the DevZone
10:56:14  <planetmaker> Ammler, I've been thinking about that, yes
10:56:22  <dihedral> Ammler, i could hug you for that Proxmox link :-)
10:56:59  <Ammler> die Österreicher, gell :-)
10:57:01  <dihedral> how did you install that on the server?
10:57:02  <dihedral> :-P
10:57:14  <Ammler> debian min installation
10:57:47  <dihedral> do you not have to install with their iso?
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10:59:15  <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/1059/Proxmox.html
10:59:27  <Ammler> no, I didn't
10:59:32  <Ammler> that would cost on Hetzner
10:59:44  <Brot6> #openttdcoop - Proxmox.html (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/1059/Proxmox.html
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11:01:06  <dihedral> interesting though :-) thank you
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11:40:23  <Ammler> planetmaker: did you reboot the server?
11:41:15  <planetmaker> not that I know
11:41:36  <planetmaker> I thought about doing that, but I didn't recall clicking about actually doing it
11:41:44  <planetmaker> I luckily first checked the host server
11:41:55  <planetmaker> why?
11:42:01  <Ammler> seems like the server was down
11:42:17  <planetmaker> also? :-(
11:42:19  <Ammler> 1.30h uptime
11:42:24  <planetmaker> :-O
11:42:41  <Ammler> so it was something serious broken at server4you
11:42:43  <planetmaker> right now? 1:30h?
11:42:47  <planetmaker> then it was definitely not me
11:42:54  <Ammler> no, 1.30 ago
11:43:05  <planetmaker> so uptime now 3h?
11:43:37  <Ammler> no, uptime 1.30
11:43:49  <planetmaker> then it wasn't me
11:43:58  <Ammler>  13:42pm  up   1:25,  2 users,  load average: 1.00, 0.63, 0.59
11:44:22  <planetmaker> yeah.
11:44:38  <Ammler> e.g. no Brot around
11:44:46  <planetmaker> brot is here
11:44:57  <planetmaker> But! I started it after the host server returned
11:45:00  <planetmaker> as it wasn't here
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11:48:20  <Ammler> how are you able to start brot but forget about the rest?
11:48:49  <planetmaker> by being in office and people requiring my attention here
11:48:56  <Ammler> :-P
11:49:17  <planetmaker> :-)
11:50:44  * andythenorth waves at devzone
11:50:56  <andythenorth> devzone doesn't wave back :(
11:53:29  <Ammler> :'-(
11:53:47  <planetmaker> again! :-(
11:54:10  <Ammler> no
11:55:14  <planetmaker> works :-)
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11:59:23  <Brot6> FISH - Feature #1738 (New): Revise spritesheets and convert to png for ships using enhanced cargo... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1738
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12:14:31  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 405:28429a34f433: Change: Large Vehicle Ferry uses CPP templating for action 1 / ... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/28429a34f433
12:14:31  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 406:7e31cce1aa52: Change: Medium Vehicle Ferry uses CPP templating for action 1 /... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/7e31cce1aa52
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12:24:18  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 407:6674bbe11057: Fix: offsets were wrong for Medium Vehicle Ferry (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/6674bbe11057
12:24:18  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 408:0251bbaa5947: Change: Small Vehicle Ferry uses CPP templating for action 1 / ... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/0251bbaa5947
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12:33:30  <Brot6> FISH - Feature #1673 (Closed): Convert vehicle ferries to cpp templates for offsets (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1673#change-4471
12:34:41  <Brot6> FISH - Feature #1140: Convert Utility Vessels to cpp offsets (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1140#change-4472
12:36:20  <Brot6> FISH - Bug #760 (Closed): Vehicle Ferry (small) truncated in \ view (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/760#change-4473
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12:40:51  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 409:5d565937237a: Change: rename 'pcx' folder to 'graphics' - grfcodec now suppor... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/5d565937237a
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12:49:52  <Brot6> FISH - Feature #1739 (New): Make log raft capacity variable using refits (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1739
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13:12:05  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 410:8a3d4ff4fa02: Change: add cargo hold sprites to psd for Large River Boat (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/8a3d4ff4fa02
13:12:41  * planetmaker wonders whether PIL can read and process psd files
13:15:41  <planetmaker> hm, no
13:16:27  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 411:439d89b7d9d8: Feature: hold graphics show when loading for Large River Boat (... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/439d89b7d9d8
13:16:27  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 412:5c5ac557a552: Cleanup: remove deprecated pcx file for Large River Boat (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/5c5ac557a552
13:16:27  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 413:691507932328: Add: png file for large river boat (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/691507932328
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13:19:31  <planetmaker> andythenorth_, ever thought about using the psd files directly as source? ;-)
13:19:49  <andythenorth_> assume it couldn't be done
13:19:51  <planetmaker> seems that new versions of the PIL support reading psd files directly as long as they're paletted
13:20:18  <planetmaker> http://infohost.nmt.edu/tcc/help/pubs/pil/defs.html#mode and http://infohost.nmt.edu/tcc/help/pubs/pil/formats.html
13:20:18  <andythenorth_> would be useful
13:20:19  <Webster> Title: 2. Definitions (at infohost.nmt.edu)
13:20:20  <andythenorth_> not essential
13:20:43  <andythenorth_> quite often there's other crap in source psds
13:20:52  <andythenorth_> the pngs tend to be a clean export
13:20:59  <planetmaker> doesn't matter. You cut out anyway only what needed
13:21:37  <planetmaker> or rather NML does. Everything except the sprite itself is never put into the grf.
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13:25:29  * Yexo wonders if pil can read multiple layers from a psd file
13:25:43  <Yexo> would be interesting for 32bpp graphics with the cc-mask as a layer
13:25:48  <planetmaker> I didn't find info on that so far. But I'd be curious to find out :-)
13:26:00  <planetmaker> what I saw it doesn't read RGB from psd
13:26:04  <planetmaker> just paletted files
13:26:24  <Yexo> http://www.pythonware.com/library/pil/handbook/format-psd.htm doesn't list that limitation
13:26:31  <Webster> Title: PSD (read only) (at www.pythonware.com)
13:26:57  <planetmaker> fair enough. Might be more up to date.
13:27:08  <planetmaker> I guess it's a thing to try at some stage
13:30:08  <planetmaker> in any case I wanted to give andy some more incentive to try NML :-P (but we had that today already)
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