Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 15th November 2010:
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10:30:57  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #1846 (New): Sydney Comeng EMU (EmperorJake) @
11:32:07  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #1847 (New): ECD21-30 (Voyager1) @
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11:59:59  <Rubidium> oh Ammler... why are you replying to a spam bot?
12:00:40  <Ammler> really, the one from Belarusian?
12:00:46  <planetmaker> yes
12:00:52  <Rubidium> yes, check his profile and other posts
12:00:54  <Ammler> why don't  you ban those?
12:00:59  <planetmaker> we can't
12:01:07  <planetmaker> that's up to global mods only
12:01:25  <Rubidium> we can only change stuff in the OpenTTD sub-forum
12:01:36  <Rubidium> and can't even ban people spamming in there
12:01:36  <Ammler> ok, deleted my replay
12:01:55  <Ammler> oh, you aren't mod in the Graphics section?
12:02:00  <planetmaker> no
12:02:02  <Ammler> mäh
12:02:20  <planetmaker> that's the one place I'd consider a useful addition indeed
12:02:35  <planetmaker> as it feels like an openttd sub-forum
12:02:36  <Ammler> yes, imo required
12:02:56  <Ammler> I guess, it is just a matter of asking :-)
12:03:30  <Ammler> and do keep it easy, just make the OpenTTD Dev Group mod there
12:03:36  <Ammler> to*
12:04:19  <Ammler> then you could also edit the OpenGFX fist posts :-)
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13:02:55  <seberoth> hi
13:42:51  <Brot6> GRFCodec - Revision 789:6bfe554eb41a: Add: support for string code 9A 0D and change number format... (Rubidium) @
13:49:42  <Brot6> GRFCodec - Revision 790:7cf84bba55ed: Update: changelog with everything that happened since 5.0.0 (Rubidium) @
14:50:28  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature Request #1848 (New): string codes (Hirundo) @
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16:29:07  <Rubidium> industry tile property 7C... interesting :)
16:31:36  * Rubidium blames andy or someone else
16:34:43  <planetmaker> hm?
16:34:49  <planetmaker> doesn't sound right
16:36:11  <Brot6> Unable to connect to execution expired
16:39:41  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1849 (New): Unknown property use (Rubidium) @
16:42:43  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1849: Unknown property use (Rubidium) @
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17:13:37  <Brot6> grfcodec: update from r788 to r790 done -
17:21:10  <Brot6> firs: update from r1515 to r1517 done (3 errors) -
17:21:55  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r651), 32bpp-extra (r39), ai-admiralai (r75), airportsplus (r69), basecosts (r22), belarusiantowns (r7), comic-houses (r71), fish (r415), frenchtowns (r4), grfcodec (r790), heqs (r506), indonesiantowns (r38), manindu (r5), metrotrackset (r56), newgrf_makefile (r232), nml (r1035), nutracks (r117), ogfx-trains (r90), ogfx-trees (r41), opengfx (r554), openmsx (r97), opensfx (r97),
17:21:55  <Brot6> smts (r19), snowlinemod (r45), swedishrails (r188), swisstowns (r21), transrapidtrackset (r15), ttdviewer (r26), ttrs (r23), worldairlinersset (r667)
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18:23:42  <planetmaker> andythenorth: <-- does that work for you?
18:24:06  <andythenorth> let me see
18:25:33  <andythenorth> planetmaker: it launches fine
18:25:45  <andythenorth> I don't understand how it's finding my TTD original base sets
18:25:50  <andythenorth> but it is
18:25:52  <planetmaker> sweet :-)
18:26:04  <planetmaker> it is in ~/Documents/OpenTTD/data I assume?
18:26:10  <andythenorth> runs from the location where I expanded the zip
18:26:26  <andythenorth> the original files are probably in /Applications/OpenTTD
18:26:31  <andythenorth> I'd have to check
18:26:46  <andythenorth> be back in a bit - few things to do here :o
18:29:20  <planetmaker> no worries. Whether it works was all I wanted to know :-)
18:36:24  <Brot6> #openttdcoop - Document: graphic template files (planetmaker) @
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18:39:54  <Brot6> #openttdcoop - NewobjectTemplateWorksheet.png (planetmaker) @
18:39:55  <Brot6> #openttdcoop - NewobjectTemplateReference.png (planetmaker) @
18:43:20  <frosch123> weird images :)
18:44:32  <frosch123> someone knows what the cube-octahedron-intersection on the left ist?
18:45:51  * Rubidium slaps planetmaker
18:46:00  <Rubidium> windows palette? Why?
18:46:02  <planetmaker> outch :-(
18:46:15  <planetmaker> Rubidium: because wallyweb made them that way
18:47:36  <planetmaker> and no, I don't know the meaning of the cube-octahedron
18:48:17  <avdg> looks like I'm going to develop nothing, unless I can find a good spot where I can concentrate :(
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19:14:07  <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: update from r21193 to r21199 done -
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19:16:02  <andythenorth> planetmaker: what was special about that binary?
19:16:28  <planetmaker> not much. It's build with the updated compile farm of OpenTTD
19:16:50  <planetmaker> other than that just a normal somewhat nightly build
19:16:59  <planetmaker> not nightly. But what could be
19:17:56  <planetmaker> I just wanted to know whether the config changes I made and the library updates michi made broke something for others. And I know you have different setup than I do
19:25:12  <Brot6> clientpatches: update from r21193 to r21199 done -
19:27:22  <Brot6> serverpatches: update from r21193 to r21199 done (19 errors) -
19:45:24  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #1850 (New): engines can use metro wagon (DJNekkid) @
19:49:04  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Revision 652:17f85827033f: Fix: Everything noted in #1761, close #1761 (DJNekkid) @
19:49:04  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #1761 (Closed): r649 bugs, bugs, bugs (DJNekkid) @
20:04:12  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1845 (Closed): Biorefinery additional layouts (andythenorth) @
20:04:12  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1845 (Closed): Biorefinery additional layouts (andythenorth) @
20:24:36  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #1850 (Closed): engines can use metro wagon (DJNekkid) @
20:24:36  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Revision 653:28f6fc096f67: Fix: metro-wagons can now not attach to engines, close... (DJNekkid) @
20:24:36  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #1850 (Closed): engines can use metro wagon (DJNekkid) @
20:27:09  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Revision 654:9a95d233b500: Fix: Removed action colors in the MAV44 flag. Close #1... (DJNekkid) @
20:27:09  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #1723 (Closed): MAV Class M44 - Action colors in depot sprite flag (DJNekkid) @
20:35:07  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1578 (Closed): Update FIRS website - add graphics for in... (andythenorth) @
20:51:54  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Revision 655:7b14aa666001: Fix: Minor purchase list alignment issues by purno, no... (DJNekkid) @
20:51:54  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #1722 (Closed): Depot sprites misallignment (DJNekkid) @
20:58:27  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Revision 656:6ac25552efa3: Fix: Flashing colors on 2 railbusses reported in #1452... (DJNekkid) @
20:58:28  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #1452 (Closed): r613 minor bugs (DJNekkid) @
21:05:52  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1518:f2cdf58b05bf: Fix: Serbian translation contained wr... (planetmaker) @
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21:16:53  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Revision 657:957297ec3523: Fix: no new line in action14 file is now properly in p... (DJNekkid) @
21:24:18  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #1851 (New): G2000-3 BB (trainboy2004) @
21:51:59  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Revision 658:e1d27c531e4f: Fix: Restore Chimaera Nutrack support (DJNekkid) @
21:56:08  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1023 (Closed): Additional layouts for Lumber Yard (andythenorth) @
22:00:33  * andythenorth doesn't like a day without a FIRS commit :P
22:01:40  <Rubidium> so fix the bug I reported :)
22:02:28  <planetmaker> haha :-)
22:08:29  <andythenorth> Rubidium: probably test code for Field Tiles
22:08:30  <andythenorth> :P
22:10:36  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1519:7f71bebbd31f: Feature: additional layouts for Lumbe... (andythenorth) @
22:11:27  <andythenorth> hmm
22:11:29  <andythenorth> perhaps not
22:17:23  <andythenorth> Rubidium: any additional debug info?  Searching the FIRS codebase for 7C has not been very effective :P
22:18:19  <Rubidium> andythenorth: nope
22:18:50  <andythenorth> any idea if it's actually a var or a prop?
22:18:59  <andythenorth> I would have to look in quite different places :P
22:19:38  <Hirundo> 7C sounds like persistent storage to me
22:20:37  <andythenorth> that would make it an operator
22:20:45  <andythenorth> hmm
22:21:01  <andythenorth> Rubidium: you won't let me just reject the bug :P
22:21:03  <andythenorth> ?
22:21:43  <Hirundo> persistent storage should be read in the 'parent' (industry) scope
22:21:45  <Rubidium> no, there must be something wrong
22:21:57  <andythenorth> ach
22:22:02  <planetmaker> Rubidium: testing a non-existing variable?
22:22:07  <planetmaker> or not yet?
22:22:09  <Rubidium> industry type 2, gfx 263, 265 or 267
22:22:20  <Rubidium> (or 264 and 266 as well)
22:22:25  <andythenorth> type == ID?
22:22:41  <Rubidium> depends a bit on the mapping, but I guess so
22:23:04  <andythenorth> ID 2 would be windfarm, which is missing
22:23:09  <andythenorth> so there must be a mapping
22:24:50  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1849: Unknown property use (andythenorth) @
22:26:11  <Rubidium> local_ids (i.e. newgrfids) ind: 12, indtile: 11-15
22:26:53  <andythenorth> 0x12 or 12d?
22:26:57  <Rubidium> decimal
22:27:18  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1849: Unknown property use (andythenorth) @
22:30:26  * andythenorth remains stumped 
22:32:37  <andythenorth> Rubidium: the only way I can think of to isolate the bug is to turn off all industries, then add one by one
22:32:49  <andythenorth> which is a job for...not today
22:33:04  <planetmaker> andy search for 7D
22:33:12  <Rubidium> just build one at a time in the scenario editor?
22:33:15  <planetmaker> 7C
22:33:26  <andythenorth> only one result - an ID
22:33:28  <andythenorth> hmm
22:35:05  <andythenorth> Rubidium: do you get the error with any ECS vectors?
22:35:32  <andythenorth> one possibility is that OpenTTD doesn't know about advanced var 7C
22:35:33  <Rubidium> don't know; don't have ECS vectors
22:36:06  <andythenorth> 7C is a valid var
22:36:18  <andythenorth> I'm still uncertain if the bug relates to prop or var though?
22:36:54  <Rubidium> variable
22:37:28  * andythenorth can't find 7C in spec
22:37:40  <Hirundo> It's listed in the varaction2 main page
22:37:48  <andythenorth>
22:38:07  <andythenorth> not an advanced var, my mistake :|
22:38:26  <andythenorth> is it possible the game is wrong, not me?
22:38:50  <Hirundo> There is no such thing as an 'advanced var'
22:38:58  <andythenorth> indeed
22:40:05  <andythenorth> I get confused between var and operator because the pattern of use is similar in nfo
22:40:20  <andythenorth> but you're right
22:40:47  * andythenorth is baffled for now and gives up
22:41:37  <andythenorth> Rubidium: if it is a var, then 7C is valid.  If it's a prop, I can't find it in FIRS codebase
22:42:26  * andythenorth bedtime
22:42:28  <andythenorth> good night
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22:42:55  <Rubidium> var 7c is *only* valid for industries
22:43:02  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1849: Unknown property use (andythenorth) @
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22:47:43  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1849: Unknown property use (Rubidium) @
23:03:01  <Brot6> WebOTTD - Revision 11:7a6c710e2d7c: Move some code outside the configuration file and rename some... (avdg) @
23:03:34  * avdg slaps himsself
23:05:33  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1849: Unknown property use (Rubidium) @
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23:53:34  <Brot6> WebOTTD - Revision 12:005cc78452b3: Fix (r10): Remove code from the configuration file (avdg) @
23:54:57  <avdg> wtf
23:57:46  <Brot6> WebOTTD - Revision 13:ea9f98105f8a: Fix (r11): Revert commit (avdg) @

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