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00:09:46 <Rubidium> Ammler: that's depcheck 00:11:49 <Rubidium> also... $(shell) make_changelog.sh means you want it to be sh compatible, but it isn't a sh compatible (it fails for me) 00:21:33 <Ammler> yeah, I told them 1000 times, they should require bash 00:21:55 <Ammler> but well 00:26:18 *** Lakie has quit IRC 01:40:07 *** thgergo has quit IRC 08:14:38 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:41:42 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:55:40 *** KenjiE20 is now known as Guest242 11:56:01 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:58:50 *** Guest242 has quit IRC 12:03:17 <Brot6> Berries - Revision 12:60a54835232b: Change: PluginManager has moved to its own package (dih) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/berries/repository/revisions/60a54835232b 12:08:53 <Brot6> Grapes - Code Review #1995 (New): IRC related extentions to be defined by Plugin (dih) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1995 12:12:41 <Brot6> Grapes - Code Review #1996 (New): Command Annotation to be split into 2 separate definitions (dih) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1996 12:14:38 <Brot6> Grapes - Feature Request #1770 (Assigned): Command ExtentionPoint (dih) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1770#change-4988 12:22:21 <Brot6> Berries - Feature Request #1778: Password should be alternatively available per http (dih) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1778#change-4989 12:25:48 <Brot6> Java OpenTTD Admin Library - Feature Request #1997 (New): Handle Economy Data (dih) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1997 12:30:28 <Brot6> Grapes - Code Review #1998 (New): Command Access extendable by plugins (dih) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1998 12:33:57 <Brot6> Grapes - Feature Request #1999 (New): Separate Command Handling (dih) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1999 12:34:50 <dih> planetmaker, Ammler : can i move an issue to become a subtask of another issue? 12:35:33 <dih> found it :- 12:35:34 <dih> :-) 12:35:56 <Ammler> subtask is quite young feature, i have no idea about :-) 12:36:22 <dih> i have ^^ 12:36:29 <dih> you can define a parent task in a new task 12:36:30 <Ammler> well, then we know, who to ask :-P 12:36:37 <dih> or when you update a task you can specify a parent task too 12:36:42 <dih> hehe 12:37:24 <Ammler> btw. I guess, we have again working ap+, I updaed every $linestart and it seems to work now. 12:37:34 <Ammler> so you don't need to hurry with joan anymore 12:37:50 <Ammler> new year is fine for first release :-P 12:39:21 <dih> jeah - i see that there still seems to be a lot of work to do 12:39:37 <dih> the grapes framework still needs some stuff before i can start properly digging into the plugins 12:40:04 <dih> esp. the command handling 12:45:12 *** ODM has quit IRC 13:05:28 <dih> hmm... actually wanted to chat with ODM :-P 13:05:49 <Ammler> he might have smelled it 13:06:14 <dih> well, i am not upset or anything ... 13:06:24 <Ammler> :-D 13:06:44 <dih> some things just need to be programmed in other places :-P 13:06:51 <dih> that's basically all ^^ 13:06:58 <dih> hope he's not scared to bits :-P 13:07:36 <Ammler> he wasn't that active in your absence anyway 13:07:40 <Ammler> just the first week 13:13:34 <Ammler> dih: I have a ugly patch in stable http://paste.pocoo.org/show/301305/ to show when to start with !-commands 13:13:54 <Ammler> because when you start too early, you break the console 13:14:05 <Ammler> might it be possible to make that a bit cleaner? 13:31:44 *** Seberoth2 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:50:25 <dih> i think that'll just be fine if it's a left over old piece ^^ 13:50:39 <dih> i mean, you can of course add it if you like 13:50:53 <dih> but i do not think it's crucial, nor do i think i really want to support ap :-P 14:00:04 *** Webster has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:05:45 <dih> well, the parent project stuff has a minor bug ^^ 14:08:51 *** fanioz has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:10:18 <fanioz> hello all 14:10:52 <planetmaker> moin 14:11:48 <dih> which version of redmine is actually running? 14:19:12 <Yexo> the nml prolbem with the railtype table with 3RDR is quite nasty 14:19:27 <Yexo> I think the only way to fix it is to make the rail type labels strings instead of identifiers 14:20:03 <Yexo> but that means they can't be used in the rest of the code directly, they'll have to get special syntax 14:20:40 <Yexo> like: railtype("3RDR") instead of 3RDR 14:24:55 *** Seberoth2 has quit IRC 14:27:18 *** fanioz has quit IRC 14:31:53 *** Doorslammer has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:32:33 *** fanioz has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:32:47 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1073:db78536e1c5a: Add: commandline option to change the default ... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/db78536e1c5a 14:32:47 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1074:d566b51ebe80: Doc: update documentation of the language file... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/d566b51ebe80 14:35:38 <planetmaker> Yexo, I fear(ed) that. 14:36:18 <Yexo> that means we might need to do the same for cargo :( 14:36:52 <planetmaker> bah. I prefer not to. 14:37:52 <planetmaker> But you're right. Both things are the same and should be treated the same 14:37:54 <Yexo> me neither, but there are a lot of valid cargo labels that are not supported by nml 14:38:32 <planetmaker> couldn't it just be a fixed-length string, so without the railtype(...) 14:38:36 <planetmaker> just "LABL" 14:38:37 <planetmaker> ? 14:38:52 <Yexo> for the table, yes 14:39:18 <planetmaker> but? 14:39:21 <Yexo> to reference it, no, because when you write "3RDR" nml doesn't know whether you want the id of the railtype 3RDR or the id of the cargo 3RDR 14:39:55 <planetmaker> where is that distinction needed where the labels are used? 14:40:08 <Yexo> everywhere 14:40:11 <planetmaker> In a CB it's clear. As in property definitions 14:40:24 <Yexo> not when you set a parameter 14:40:31 <Yexo> param[3] = "3RDR"; 14:40:42 <Yexo> property { cargo_type: param[3]; } 14:40:44 <planetmaker> bah 14:41:24 <Yexo> you could add #define COAL railtype("COAL") and use that 14:41:30 <planetmaker> 3r* should be forbidden :-( 14:42:09 <Yexo> OIL_ is with an underscore, but openttd would care if it would be "OIL ", the latter is not supported by nml though 14:42:58 <planetmaker> yeah 14:43:00 <Yexo> another option is to ignore an underscore at the start of an identifier name (or ignore double underscore), so you could use _3RDR instead of 3RDR (or __3RDR) 14:43:11 <Yexo> but that only solves the "starts with a numeric" case 14:43:33 <planetmaker> hm 14:43:50 <planetmaker> maybe: LABL or __LAB __ 14:43:53 <Rubidium> planetmaker: actually, ABCDEF12 is a valid railtype 14:44:03 <planetmaker> so that anything between __ is considered the label? 14:44:09 <Ammler> [15:11] <dih> which version of redmine is actually running? <-- svn trunk with hg mq 14:44:12 <planetmaker> hm.. but I guess that doesn't work 14:44:20 <planetmaker> as it's considered two identifier? 14:44:23 <Yexo> Rubidium: that is a hex number? 14:44:30 <Rubidium> Yexo: yes, it's hex 14:44:41 <planetmaker> Rubidium, but it wouldn't be a problem, except length 14:45:04 <Yexo> planetmaker: that id cannot be written using the __ID__ syntax 14:45:21 <Ammler> dih: what is the bug? 14:45:24 <Rubidium> IMO you should handle it like the GRFID is handled 14:45:29 <Yexo> it's no problem if we go for railtype("ID"), it would become railtype("\AB\CD\EF") 14:45:50 <Yexo> so as a string which has to be length 4 14:46:32 <planetmaker> hm. Can NML itself provide already the shorthands of #define COAL cargolabel("COAL")? 14:46:53 <Yexo> it could 14:46:53 <dih> Ammler, issues are not displayed correctly, e.g. when the parent and child issue are too far appart (issue number wise) 14:47:25 <Yexo> hmm, and 3RDR as shorthand doesn't cause any problems because there is no way to write that in the nml code 14:47:49 <Yexo> planetmaker: but what when there are duplicate shorthands? 14:49:39 <planetmaker> Yexo, there aren't. Or do you know railtypes and cargo labels which are alike 14:49:50 <planetmaker> It doesn't mean that people cannot invent it. But they con't yet exist 14:49:59 <planetmaker> *don't even 14:50:10 <Yexo> indeed, not yet 15:11:45 <Ammler> mäh, I broke redmine :-( 15:12:20 *** fanioz has quit IRC 15:12:53 *** fanioz has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:15:33 <Rubidium> congratulations :) 15:21:22 *** Lakie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:31:12 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:31:14 <dih> what is projects-kde-org? 15:35:52 <Ammler> just a clone of that repo, hmm shouldn't be in public 15:36:14 *** yorick has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:00:03 <Brot6> mode change on /home/hg/hgsubversion 16:34:26 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:39:35 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 16:40:57 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:48:54 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:08:33 <Brot6> nml: update from r1072 to r1074 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/r1074 17:17:14 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 17:17:15 <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r686), 32bpp-extra (r39), ai-admiralai (r75), airportsplus (r70), basecosts (r22), belarusiantowns (r8), bros (r40), comic-houses (r71), firs (r1578), fish (r423), frenchtowns (r6), grfcodec (r811), heqs (r551), indonesiantowns (r39), manindu (r6), metrotrackset (r56), newgrf_makefile (r237), nml (r1074), nutracks (r120), ogfx-rv (r78), ogfx-trains (r199), ogfx-trees (r41), 17:17:15 <Brot6> opengfx (r568), openmsx (r97), opensfx (r97), smts (r19), snowlinemod (r45), swedishrails (r189), swisstowns (r22), transrapidtrackset (r15), ttdviewer (r26), ttrs (r23), worldairlinersset (r669) 17:20:19 <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: airportsplus, belarusiantowns, frenchtowns, indonesiantowns (1 errors), manindu, ogfx-rv (1 errors), ogfx-trains, swedishrails, swisstowns 17:22:12 *** ODM has quit IRC 17:22:23 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:29:29 *** fani0z has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:31:05 *** ODM has quit IRC 17:31:19 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:34:00 *** fanioz has quit IRC 17:38:03 *** Doorslammer has quit IRC 17:42:33 *** fanioz has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:45:57 *** fani0z has quit IRC 18:11:28 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2001 (New): HXN5 (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2001 18:31:28 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Code Review #2002 (New): New station building? (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2002 18:31:57 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Code Review #2003 (New): New Toyland helicopter (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2003 18:31:57 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Code Review #2004 (New): Toyland ships (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2004 18:34:45 * dih misses ODM :-( 19:02:45 <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: update from r21402 to r21421 done (2 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/32bpp-ez-patches/testing/r21421 19:03:19 <planetmaker> he hasn't been around much lately... :-( 19:03:51 <Rubidium> 32bpp seems quite idle at this moment anyways 19:04:37 <planetmaker> yeah 19:05:12 <Brot6> clientpatches: update from r21402 to r21421 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/clientpatches/testing/r21421 19:05:45 <Brot6> serverpatches: compile of r21421 still failed (#1965) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/serverpatches/testing/ERROR/r21421 19:36:21 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:58:52 *** ODM has quit IRC 20:16:03 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2005 (New): Korail 8200 (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2005 20:38:09 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:47:23 <Brot6> Grapes - Revision 36:f2f2ff72fbf8: Add: Exception Class for Plugins (dih) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grapes/repository/revisions/f2f2ff72fbf8 20:47:23 <Brot6> Grapes - Revision 37:ac22394c87ae: Add: a PluginDescriptor which caches extentions / methods and ... (dih) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grapes/repository/revisions/ac22394c87ae 20:47:23 <Brot6> Grapes - Revision 38:a1a2547584ca: Add: PluginCache which handles access to methods and plugin in... (dih) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grapes/repository/revisions/a1a2547584ca 20:47:24 <Brot6> Grapes - Revision 39:5d9b2e6bc35b: Change: methods to check if ExtentionPoints or Command Definit... (dih) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grapes/repository/revisions/5d9b2e6bc35b 20:47:28 <Brot6> Grapes - Revision 40:dab13d922c29: Change: use a PluginCache, PluginDescriptor (dih) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grapes/repository/revisions/dab13d922c29 21:13:16 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 21:25:07 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 22:53:36 *** fanioz has quit IRC 23:20:07 *** yorick has quit IRC 23:44:48 *** goodguy5 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:44:49 *** goodguy5 has left #openttdcoop.devzone