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Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 17th December 2010:
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00:06:02  <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches - Support #2025 (New): Update patch and retrigger for osx (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2025
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00:17:11  <Ammler> almost :-)
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00:19:20  <Ammler> Hello oberhuemer :-)
00:19:42  <Ammler> or rather welcome back ;-)
00:20:01  <oberhuemer> I need my SSH public key authorized for NARVS.
00:20:20  <Ammler> just use https login :-)
00:21:08  <Ammler> hmm, we should update the guides according to this, ssh isn't needed anymore to push
00:21:12  <oberhuemer> Ok, I'll try that... let's see.
00:21:19  <oberhuemer> logging off...
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00:21:35  <Ammler> ?
01:42:03  <Brot6> Unable to connect to http://dev.openttdcoop.org/sys/: wrong constant name 2
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05:33:27  <Brot6> Bundles Update: g9a7d314e 2010-12-17 cargodist   (http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist)
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08:38:25  <Brot6> #openttdcoop - Membership #2026 (New): Applying for project: Polish PKP Set Reloaded (BarthVader) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2026
08:39:50  <planetmaker> moin
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11:04:03  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2027 (New): New graphics for F3, SDP40 and HST (EmperorJake) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2027
11:07:31  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2028 (New): EMD E8 (EmperorJake) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2028
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14:10:13  <Brot6> OpenGFX - usage_statistics.txt (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/1200/usage_statistics.txt
14:13:57  * Ammler would prefer to watch such things on the browser ^
14:16:26  <planetmaker> well, you can do that, can't you?
14:17:29  <planetmaker> hm... maybe I only can because of this extension; before it downloads I can choose any other action
14:19:04  <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/wiki <-- there you go
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14:29:14  <Ammler> then I wonder, why you asked for changing mime.types of obg and such
14:29:23  <Ammler> so they aren't forced to download
14:29:51  <planetmaker> :-) Not needing a manual override is better
14:29:56  <planetmaker> And few have installed it
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14:32:38  <Ammler> btw. devzone is now running on stable 1.0.4
14:32:51  <Ammler> of course patched with around 30 patches ;-)
14:33:17  <planetmaker> :-P
14:33:25  <dihedral> Ammler, well done :)
14:33:39  <Ammler> hmm, we should ask andy for a theme
14:33:53  <planetmaker> good idea :-)
14:34:15  <Ammler> or steal the theme from noai :-)
14:34:41  <planetmaker> DevZone is somewhat more than just NoAI
14:35:20  <Ammler> well, that doesn't mean we could recycle that theme
14:35:38  <Ammler> made by a cooper anyway
14:35:53  <planetmaker> hm, yes. It doesn't mean to use the same logo ;-)
14:36:01  <Ammler> well, not the logo
14:36:14  <Ammler> but the color sheme and such
14:36:58  <planetmaker> It might conflict with the search bar in our upper right
14:37:09  <Ammler> I quite much dislike the openttd logo
14:37:57  <planetmaker> it certainly is not something which wins any design award
14:38:14  <Ammler> well, mostly because of teh $ sign :-)
15:01:50  <dihedral> i would love for it to become one
15:02:14  <dihedral> i do not get why the noai.openttd.org is not something more general openttd related
15:04:02  <Ammler> because of the DevZone maybe
15:04:18  <Ammler> also new noai projects are also here
15:05:16  <dihedral> yes, i would still prefer it being a subdomain of openttd.org
15:13:32  * Ammler wouldn't care
15:13:58  <Ammler> Always said, it is fine to move the devzone to openttd
15:14:54  <Ammler> but that would mean, I wouldn't maintain it, but also fine with me :-)
15:15:20  <planetmaker> If, it'd be a solution like forum.openttd.org
15:16:57  <Ammler> well, that can always be done already
15:17:09  <Ammler> that doesn't need anything from us
15:17:13  <planetmaker> yep
15:17:29  <Ammler> devzone.openttd.org
15:17:44  <Ammler> contribute.openttd.org
15:19:40  <planetmaker> 3rdparty.openttd.org
15:20:07  <planetmaker> but maybe devzone is best
15:20:14  <planetmaker> as it's a name well established.
15:22:08  <Ammler> well, does someone use forum.openttd.org?
15:22:17  * Ammler doesn't
15:22:50  <Ammler> it is more the question, should it be officially linked from openttd.org
15:23:11  <planetmaker> forum.openttd.org is used, yes. That's what is linked from openttd.org main page(s)
15:25:30  <Ammler> or a new domain like devzone.org
15:25:51  <planetmaker> Nah :-)
15:27:19  <Ammler> well, it would make it really independent
15:27:51  <planetmaker> why should it be?
15:28:04  <Ammler> make ttdp people happy :-P
15:32:33  <planetmaker> not that I don't want to see them happy, but that'd be grossly over-doing things
15:37:05  <Ammler> hehe
15:37:20  <Ammler> also someone would need to sponsor the domain
15:37:50  <Ammler> hmm, or we use ammler.ch ;-)
15:37:58  <planetmaker> :-P
15:38:19  <planetmaker> addon-leaks.openttd.org :-P
15:38:38  <Ammler> hehe, just leaks.
16:06:03  <Ammler> planetmaker: did you test gallery.openttdcoo.org, is that something I should setup?
16:40:03  <Ammler> does FIRS have a switch to disable the station name feature?
16:46:24  <Terkhen> not that I know of
16:56:08  <Ammler> planetmaker: I do not like the new Tracker "Updated sprites"
16:56:32  <Ammler> what about "Graphics Review"?
16:56:45  <planetmaker> Well. I know. Then tell me how to name it or what to use in replacement. Bug or feature didn't do the trick ;-)
16:57:42  <planetmaker> Well... that'd be code review IMHO, too. It's not really a review, is it? It's really a "work order"
17:00:14  <Ammler> planetmaker: well the one I did was a bugfix
17:00:22  <Ammler> the station house
17:00:33  <Ammler> or a feature
17:01:19  <planetmaker> Well. We could call every new sprite "feature" - but it feels somehow wrong
17:01:30  <planetmaker> s/new/replaced/
17:01:43  <Ammler> yes, feature of bugfix
17:01:53  <Ammler> or*
17:02:11  <Ammler> that was my initial thought as you made those Code Review :-)
17:02:17  <planetmaker> well. But it is in these cases - e.g. the station update - neither a feature nor a bug fix
17:02:31  <planetmaker> they're a code review
17:02:38  <planetmaker> of sorts
17:03:03  <Ammler> well, then I would move those back to Code Review
17:03:25  <Ammler> we have already too many trackers
17:03:26  <planetmaker> ok. Then do that and remove the "New sprites"
17:03:39  <Ammler> you are fine with it?
17:03:48  <planetmaker> yes, code review is fine with me
17:04:48  <Ammler> hmm, you want those in the Roadmap?
17:05:24  <Ammler> that is btw. also the difference between Feature and FR
17:05:59  <Ammler> hmm, I thought, I can move the ticets when I delete the tracker
17:07:47  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Code Review #2004: Toyland ships (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2004#change-5040
17:07:47  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Code Review #2002: New station building? (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2002#change-5045
17:07:47  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Code Review #2002 (Closed): New station building? (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2002#change-5046
17:09:01  <planetmaker> I'd not like new things on the 0.4.0 road map. That's something to be released in the next 6 days. But we might include a number (or all) of the remaining code reviews with sprites into 0.4.1
17:09:15  * Ammler added FR tracker to firs
17:09:20  <planetmaker> :-)
17:11:36  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature Request #2029 (New): Switch to disable narrow stations na... (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2029
17:18:26  <Brot6> opengfx: update from r577 to r578 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/nightlies/r578
17:18:30  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r686), 32bpp-extra (r39), ai-admiralai (r75), airportsplus (r70), basecosts (r22), belarusiantowns (r8), bros (r40), comic-houses (r71), firs (r1585), fish (r432), frenchtowns (r6), grfcodec (r817), heqs (r566), indonesiantowns (r39), manindu (r6), metrotrackset (r56), newgrf_makefile (r241), nml (r1118), nutracks (r120), ogfx-nogrid (r11), ogfx-rv (r78), ogfx-trains (r200),
17:18:30  <Brot6> ogfx-trees (r41), openmsx (r97), opensfx (r97), smts (r19), snowlinemod (r45), swedishrails (r193), swisstowns (r22), transrapidtrackset (r15), ttdviewer (r26), ttrs (r23), worldairlinersset (r669)
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18:35:23  <Brot6> North American Road Vehicle Set (NARVS) - Revision 0:b23d310c3710: Initial release (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/narvs/repository/revisions/b23d310c3710
18:57:08  <Ammler> he, you should add Makefile.dist to the ignore file :-)
18:57:31  <Ammler> hmm, wouldn't help
19:01:56  <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: update from r21532 to r21534 done (4 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/32bpp-ez-patches/testing/r21534
19:04:05  <Brot6> clientpatches: update from r21488 to r21488 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/clientpatches/testing/r21488
19:06:23  <Brot6> serverpatches: update from h8f96a256 to r21534 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/serverpatches/testing/r21534
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20:00:09  <Ammler> andythenorth: want to make a theme for the devzone?
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20:26:55  <andythenorth> Ammler: devzone theme is nice already
20:26:57  <andythenorth> tmwftlb
20:34:37  <Yexo> is oberhuemer ever on irc?
20:35:48  <Ammler> he joined yesterday night
20:36:06  <Ammler> after i created the project
20:36:21  <Yexo> oh, right
20:36:39  <Yexo> and he was gone after figuring out how to push his project
20:37:07  <Ammler> yeah, it was a bit strange :-)
20:39:53  * andythenorth looks at current stable game
20:40:02  <andythenorth> FIRS :)
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20:44:20  <andythenorth> FIRS forest with stolen trees :D
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20:55:32  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature Request #2029: Switch to disable narrow stations naming (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2029#change-5057
21:02:24  <Ammler> andythenorth: I would expect coding that once in the template would be fine :-)
21:02:45  <andythenorth> Ammler: it's quite an easy thing to do
21:03:01  <andythenorth> feel free to add it :)
21:03:18  <Ammler> I did already quite a lot with adding the FR :-P
21:03:41  <andythenorth> well look for volunteers then :)
21:03:53  <Ammler> In general, every feature is bad, if not switchable, you should know ;-)
21:05:23  <andythenorth> I should but somehow I disagree with it :P
21:06:34  <Ammler> hehe
21:07:05  <Ammler> hehe, I don't think, it is that easy to code in current firs
21:07:34  <Ammler> I would remove prop 24 from the industry action 0
21:08:07  <Ammler> and add one action 0 prop 24 for every industry
21:08:15  <Ammler> would that work?
21:08:27  <andythenorth> yes
21:08:40  <andythenorth> wrap it in some kind of action 6 or whatever (I never use them)
21:08:49  <Ammler> why?
21:08:58  <andythenorth> for the parameters?
21:09:00  <Ammler> just don't add prop24
21:09:17  <Ammler> or add it according to the parameter value
21:09:23  <andythenorth> yes  it needs templating in with CPP and defines though - will be cleaner
21:09:34  <Ammler> I would have no idea how to do with a6
21:09:53  <Ammler> hmm, you didn't get, How I meant it
21:10:07  <andythenorth> ho
21:10:21  <Ammler> I would remove prop24 from the current action0 of a industry
21:10:44  <Ammler> then add a action0 for prop24 only
21:10:54  <Ammler> does that work?
21:11:15  <andythenorth> I think so
21:11:17  <andythenorth> I've never done it
21:11:28  <Ammler> he, I could indeed make a patch for it at least
21:11:36  <andythenorth> but the action 0 for prop 24 only will need turning on/off according to param
21:11:58  <Ammler> are you sure?
21:12:02  <Ammler> looks more like a string
21:12:20  <Ammler> 	24 STR_STA_PLANT //default text for nearby station
21:12:56  <Ammler> or is there an additional flag?
21:14:20  <Ammler> "Setting this to zero disables " Oilfield" and " Mines" without adding any additional station name options."
21:14:45  <andythenorth> not sure
21:14:56  <Ammler> yes, I would rather not use it
21:15:16  <andythenorth> if you just want to patch then changing the value of this prop should work
21:15:26  <andythenorth> if we want a parameter it needs more...
21:15:53  <Ammler> did you substitute from default industries?
21:17:21  <andythenorth> not sure - foobar wrote that code
21:17:27  <andythenorth> what does the code say? :)
21:24:05  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 433:01e9b56159cb: Change: update style of graphics + convert to png for Large Coa... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/01e9b56159cb
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21:30:40  <oberhuemer> Hi, I was wondering if there's anything special I need to do for my project (the NARVS) to be compiled automatically. I am already using the standard Makefile system.
21:31:32  <oberhuemer> nobody home???
21:32:04  <andythenorth> oberhuemer: you've checked in code?
21:32:36  <oberhuemer> Yes. I've uploaded everything to the repository.
21:33:04  <andythenorth> Ammler: ^
21:34:00  <oberhuemer> So it should work then?
21:34:18  <Ammler> oberhuemer: you need to enalbe compiling with adding a .devzone directory
21:34:38  <Ammler> echo "nml" > .devzone/build/type
21:35:01  <Ammler> touch .devzone/build/nightlies/enable
21:35:15  <Ammler> touch .devzone/build/releases/enable to build releases
21:35:30  <oberhuemer> OK. I'll see to it.
21:37:04  <Ammler> oberhuemer: example: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-rv/repository/show/.devzone
21:37:55  <Ammler> there is also push, which would build it on push
21:38:06  <oberhuemer> ???
21:38:25  <Ammler> everytime you push, the compiler rebuilds
21:38:39  <oberhuemer> I see.
21:38:46  <Ammler> nobody is using that :-)
21:38:54  <Ammler> (almost)
21:39:19  <oberhuemer> Well, I'll try to set things up then. Bye.
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21:43:49  <Ammler> brot is a bit silly
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21:45:24  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 434:9230f8dd8e6f: Change: update style of graphics + convert to png for Small Coa... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/9230f8dd8e6f
21:47:03  <Brot6> North American Road Vehicle Set (NARVS) - Revision 1:6afe671f2e02: Add: Enable compile farm (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/narvs/repository/revisions/6afe671f2e02
21:47:03  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 435:c74cdeeb00b0: Cleanup: remove redundant pcx files (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/c74cdeeb00b0
21:47:29  <Ammler> hmm, failed :-(
21:47:45  <Ammler> was my explaination really that bad?
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21:51:30  <Brot6> North American Road Vehicle Set (NARVS) - Support #2030 (New): compiler wrong configured (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2030
21:56:35  <Brot6> Unable to connect to http://dev.openttdcoop.org/sys/: wrong constant name 2
21:59:33  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 436:aee98bb0dd1e: Change: update style of graphics + convert to png for Island Tr... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/aee98bb0dd1e
21:59:33  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 437:7908e01af25c: Cleanup: remove redundant pcx file (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/7908e01af25c
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22:09:19  <Ammler> andythenorth: btw, what is missing for HEQS 1.0: the guid :-)
22:09:27  <Ammler> still version 0.4 on forums
22:09:35  <andythenorth> yes
22:09:37  <andythenorth> I need to update it
22:09:47  <Ammler> or to remove
22:10:18  <Ammler> it was a nice pager :-)
22:10:26  <Ammler> paper*
22:10:39  <andythenorth> always another ticket to do :|
22:11:51  <Ammler> hehe
22:11:56  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 438:dcca36049e7a: Change: update style of graphics + convert to png for Small Trader (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/dcca36049e7a
22:11:57  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 439:635c59c6a3a7: Cleanup: remove redundant pcx file (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/635c59c6a3a7
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23:14:09  <Brot6> North American Road Vehicle Set (NARVS) - Revision 2:03654512cc42: Fix: compiler settings (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/narvs/repository/revisions/03654512cc42
23:15:55  <Brot6> North American Road Vehicle Set (NARVS) - Support #2030 (Closed): compiler wrong configured (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2030
23:15:55  <Brot6> North American Road Vehicle Set (NARVS) - Support #2030 (Closed): compiler wrong configured (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2030#change-5059
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23:42:05  <Brot6> Unable to connect to http://testing.dev.openttdcoop.org/sys/: wrong constant name 2
23:48:34  <Brot6> #openttdcoop - Membership #2026: Applying for project: Polish PKP Set Reloaded (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2026#change-5060
23:49:02  <Brot6> Unable to connect to http://testing.dev.openttdcoop.org/sys/: wrong constant name 2
23:49:07  <Brot6> #openttdcoop - Membership #2024 (Closed): Applying for project: North American Road Vehicle Set (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2024
23:49:07  <Brot6> #openttdcoop - Membership #2024 (Closed): Applying for project: North American Road Vehicle Set (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2024#change-5061
23:49:56  <Brot6> #openttdcoop NewGRF package - Bug #1123 (Rejected): Bananas GRFs (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1123#change-5062
23:56:03  <Brot6> Unable to connect to http://testing.dev.openttdcoop.org/sys/: wrong constant name 2

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