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Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 27th December 2010:
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00:00:48  <DJNekkid> either way, that is soon-to-be a problem of the past
00:01:51  <Ammler> why?
00:02:24  <Ammler> just a problem of the gui?
00:03:56  <DJNekkid> with openttd 1.1 is there action14 support
00:04:41  <Ammler> ok, so just a issue of the pre a14 gui
00:06:19  <DJNekkid> most likely?
00:07:13  <DJNekkid> according to some page i cant remember where is right now, does openttd support up to 255 parameters with up to 65565 values each
00:08:31  <DJNekkid> i.e. 16 bit values, but i guess that was understood :P
00:14:33  <Ammler> As I need ActionD to calculate with it, I thought around 0x80, but I seem wrong there too, 0xFD seems the max
00:36:11  <Ammler> mäh, since I use nginx, I have no clue about configure apache anymore
00:36:56  <Ammler> what to do, if apache does deliver php files unparsed?
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00:41:48  <Ammler> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/BaseCosts does have a img with a14
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05:33:20  <Brot6> Bundles Update: g5f789d02 2010-12-27 cargodist   (http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist)
07:50:46  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #1699: Shinkansen 0 series misalignment (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1699#change-5187
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08:09:08  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #2070: r704 bugs (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2070#change-5188
08:54:46  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1588:f51c915941bc: Fix (untested): secondary closure che... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/f51c915941bc
08:54:46  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1589:c73be3b52d04: merge (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/c73be3b52d04
09:09:43  <Ammler> "most recent 2cc-nightly have removed all airdrag, i.e. all is set to 00" <-- :'-(
09:10:14  <Ammler> that might be better a option
09:12:19  <Ammler> Hirundo: according to the Mail you got from 2cc ticket, are you aware that you are member of that project?
09:12:51  <Ammler> what are your email settings? (https://dev.openttdcoop.org/my/account)
09:13:09  <Terkhen> yes, IMO it would have been better to add a parameter for that
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10:44:02  <Yexo> <DJNekkid> according to some page i cant remember where is right now, does openttd support up to 255 parameters with up to 65565 values each <- it does (each parameter can even have a value up to 2^^32-1), but the input length is capped at a much shorter string, so you can't input it all
10:44:11  <Yexo> it might work if you put it in the config file
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11:01:40  <Hirundo> Ammler: it seems that I am a member there :S
11:19:59  * andythenorth wonders if frosch added cb result escapes to grfcodec before leaving? :o
11:20:24  <andythenorth> appears not
11:22:11  <Ammler> Hirundo: now check your mail notify settings
11:22:48  <Ammler> shall I remove you there?
11:23:32  <Ammler> I assume,. we added you there for the translations
11:26:12  <Hirundo> Ammler: I refined my mail settings, it should be fine now
11:42:03  <Brot6> repository /home/hg/ai-aroai registered in Redmine with url /home/hg/ai-aroai
11:42:03  <Brot6> repository /home/hg/ai-aroai created
11:47:38  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 496:234f203e7cfc: Add: template for handling refitted capacity (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/234f203e7cfc
11:47:38  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 497:3f766fb1d00b: Feature: for many ships, use different capacities for freight a... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/3f766fb1d00b
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12:25:41  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 498:d211932d5221: Fix: corrected colour of tanker decks for Coasters (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/d211932d5221
12:36:11  <Brot6> FISH - Feature #822 (Closed): Capacity for passengers needs to != capacity freight (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/822#change-5189
12:36:15  <Ammler> Yexo: hyronimus needs a link to nml for http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=4381 , I would suggest the forums link and to the devzone, ok?
12:36:17  <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums • View topic - Useful Graphic Tools & Sites & Install Guides (at www.tt-forums.net)
12:36:59  <Yexo> ok (if 3 links is not too much, a link to the nml documentation would also be useful)
12:37:04  <Brot6> FISH - Feature #2072 (New): Update sprites for Traders (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2072
12:38:14  <Ammler> oh, indeed
12:40:34  <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/settings/url_tabs <-- adding tabs to the devzone
12:40:41  <Ammler> (added a tab to the doc
12:51:19  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1915 (Rejected): Closure code appears to be failing (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1915#change-5191
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13:26:16  <Ammler> Yexo: around 0x80 = 127 ;-)
13:26:28  <Yexo> ah :)
13:26:37  <Yexo> but there are exactly 0x80 =128 parameters :p
13:26:40  <Ammler> you are too exact :-P
13:26:49  <Yexo> your guess was to exact to be a guess
13:27:56  <Ammler> greenling is a spamer?
13:28:19  <Ammler> I reported to posts yesterday, but not sure anymore
13:28:37  <Ammler> I guess, he is just dump
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14:08:48  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #1699: Shinkansen 0 series misalignment (DJNekkid) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1699#change-5194
14:09:35  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #1699: Shinkansen 0 series misalignment (DJNekkid) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1699#change-5195
14:10:40  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #2070: r704 bugs (DJNekkid) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2070#change-5196
15:40:56  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 499:881bdf3bcdbd: Fix: corrected colour of tanker decks for River Boats (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/881bdf3bcdbd
15:40:56  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 500:157fad9a6c87: Feature: enable default ferries (temporary measure to provide a... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/157fad9a6c87
15:42:55  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 501:7e80e711f816: Change: work in progress on paddle steamer (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/7e80e711f816
16:04:27  <andythenorth> is planetmaker away?
16:09:58  <Ammler> yes, lucky us :-P
16:11:05  <V453000> :D something borkd?
16:11:58  <Ammler> no, he is away, everything is fine
16:12:12  <Ammler> enjoy it :-P
16:12:26  <andythenorth> :( my grf projects don't build without using make clean every time
16:12:31  <andythenorth> dep check must be broken
16:12:33  <andythenorth> ho
16:13:16  <Ammler> he might heavy changes to the makefiles
16:13:21  <Ammler> made*
16:50:57  <DJNekkid> andythenorth: are you familiar with thoose socalled "advanced var2"-thingies?
16:51:05  <andythenorth> somewhat
16:51:10  <andythenorth> they are one of the easier things in nfo
16:51:18  <DJNekkid> hehe
16:51:34  <DJNekkid> well, as the other pages, its written somewhat in gibberish :P
16:52:21  <andythenorth> what's the question
16:52:22  <DJNekkid> anyhow;
16:52:41  <DJNekkid> i wanna add the results of two other var2's together
16:52:55  <DJNekkid> probably easy as f*, but i've never done it :P
16:55:45  <DJNekkid> or something similar
16:56:28  <DJNekkid> use for vehicles, variable 60 to count number of ocurances of a specific vehicleID, but there might be up to 5 different vehicle IDs to check
16:57:04  <DJNekkid> but i want to add together the number of them, so i can set the max length of the BROS MU's in a better manner
17:05:40  <Hirundo> <var1> <adjust1> <mask1> + <var2> <adjust2> <mask2> + <var3> .....
17:07:19  <Yexo> http://pastebin.com/gEwi1ZLA some nfo generated by nml
17:07:33  <Yexo> it adds var 60 (4) to var 60 (3)
17:09:47  <Yexo> http://pastebin.com/h5jyzBbB manually commented example
17:12:51  <DJNekkid> hmm,
17:15:44  <DJNekkid> in your case would parameter be the same as vehicleID ?
17:17:18  <Yexo> yes
17:17:58  <Yexo> the parameter from my example is the same as the parameter they talk about in the documentation: "The 60+x parameter is the vehicle ID to look..."
17:18:07  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: update from r704 to r708 done (17 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/2cctrainset/nightlies/r708
17:18:37  <Brot6> firs: update from r1587 to r1589 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r1589
17:18:41  <Yexo> in caes you're working with extended vehicleIDs: there is currently no way to make var 60 work with vehicleIDs > 0xFF
17:18:58  <Yexo> frosch had a nice idea to work around that, but it hasn't been implemented yet
17:19:05  <Brot6> fish: update from r495 to r501 done (2 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/fish/nightlies/r501
17:19:16  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 32bpp-extra (r39), ai-admiralai (r75), airportsplus (r70), basecosts (r22), belarusiantowns (r8), bros (r41), comic-houses (r71), frenchtowns (r6), grfcodec (r818), heqs (r567), indonesiantowns (r39), manindu (r6), metrotrackset (r56), newgrf_makefile (ERROR r247), nml (r1118), nutracks (r121), ogfx-nogrid (r11), ogfx-rv (r78), ogfx-trains (r201), ogfx-trees (r42), opengfx (r591), openmsx
17:19:16  <Brot6> (r97), opensfx (r97), smts (r19), snowlinemod (r45), spanishtowns (r1), swedishrails (r193), swisstowns (r22), transrapidtrackset (r15), ttdviewer (r26), ttrs (r24), worldairlinersset (r669)
17:19:23  <DJNekkid> currently i dont think there will be >0xFF
17:20:21  <Brot6> Example NewGRF Project - Bug #2073 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2073
17:24:08  <Brot6> Example NewGRF Project - Bug #2073: DevZone compile failed (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2073#change-5197
17:25:07  <andythenorth> DJNekkid: sorry - baby interruptions
17:26:03  <DJNekkid> np :) Yexo might have helped me out
17:29:12  <DJNekkid> Yexo: something along this:
17:29:23  <DJNekkid> http://pastie.org/1409016
17:29:24  <Webster> Title: #1409016 - Pastie (at pastie.org)
17:30:28  <DJNekkid> where THIS_ENG_CONNECT<number> is a vehicleID
17:31:27  <DJNekkid> but where does the "real" var2 come in?
17:33:17  <DJNekkid> i.e. the last 3 lines
17:33:59  <andythenorth> DJNekkid: FIRS has lots of advanced varact 2 if you need examples...
17:34:09  <andythenorth> when you grok it, it will be obvious :)
17:34:22  <DJNekkid> like all other NFO you mean? :)
17:34:30  <DJNekkid> but examples would be nice,
17:35:39  <andythenorth> DJNekkid: http://pastie.org/1409031
17:35:40  <Webster> Title: #1409031 - Pastie (at pastie.org)
17:36:02  <andythenorth> http://pastebin.com/1DRuWpd8
17:36:42  <andythenorth> http://pastebin.com/QFPhmCST
17:50:43  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1590:88d3c7ddf66e: Feature: smoke for Textile Mill (with... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/88d3c7ddf66e
17:50:44  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1591:a086636eda47: Cleanup: remove redundant snow tile d... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/a086636eda47
18:00:33  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1592:a42f7e70e7b7: Cleanup: consolidate textile mill til... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/a42f7e70e7b7
18:00:33  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1593:825117b60068: Fix: suppress various errors with Tex... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/825117b60068
18:02:36  <Yexo> <DJNekkid> http://pastie.org/1409016 <- that looks ok
18:02:37  <Webster> Title: #1409016 - Pastie (at pastie.org)
18:02:55  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1829 (Closed): Textile Mill animation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1829#change-5198
18:34:25  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #2070: r704 bugs (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2070#change-5199
18:38:17  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1594:4fcce13d1939: Add: file for Biorefinery tiles and l... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/4fcce13d1939
18:38:17  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1595:233c6071cccb: Change: move Biorefinery tiles and la... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/233c6071cccb
18:38:17  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1596:2016c02fc429: Cleanup: remove deprecated tile from ... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/2016c02fc429
18:38:19  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1597:2e1260640c0e: Feature: smoke for Biorefinery (close... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/2e1260640c0e
18:38:23  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1811 (Closed): Biorefinery animation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1811#change-5200
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18:44:27  <DanMacK> Hey all
18:48:49  <DJNekkid> Yexo: and if i refrence that CID in another var2, the total number of attach IDs will be what is read?
18:49:24  <Yexo> if you want that you just have to set the number of return ranges to 0
18:49:33  <Yexo> when it's zero it'll return the computed value instead, which you seem to want
18:50:17  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #2070: r704 bugs (DJNekkid) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2070#change-5201
18:50:19  <Yexo> you'll have to reference that CID via var 7E (=procedure call)
18:51:50  <DJNekkid> oki, i'll see how it goes
18:53:15  <Yexo> http://pastie.org/1409162 untested, but something like this
18:53:16  <Webster> Title: #1409162 - Pastie (at pastie.org)
18:53:56  <Yexo> hmm, I messed up the size of the ranges in the second varaction2 ,but you should get the idea
18:54:15  <Yexo> s/\dx00 \dx04/00 04/
18:59:47  <Brot6> patches: compile of r20994 failed - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/patches/releases/ERROR/r20994
19:00:35  <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: compile of r21649 still failed (#2069) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/32bpp-ez-patches/testing/ERROR/r21649
19:01:54  <Brot6> patches: compile of r21278 failed - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/patches/releases/ERROR/r21278
19:03:29  <Brot6> clientpatches: update from r21488 to r21488 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/clientpatches/testing/r21488
19:04:56  <Brot6> patches: compile of r20690 failed - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/patches/releases/ERROR/r20690
19:06:28  <Brot6> serverpatches: update from r21646 to r21649 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/serverpatches/testing/r21649
19:06:59  <Ammler> hmm
19:10:39  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1598:9548c4df27da: Change: move Cement Plant tiles / lay... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/9548c4df27da
19:10:39  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1599:761e11704454: Change: use define for Cement Plant g... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/761e11704454
19:10:39  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1600:878b15a60176: Change: use define for Biorefinery gr... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/878b15a60176
19:10:41  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1601:6dc76e851406: Feature: smoke for Cement Plant (doub... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/6dc76e851406
19:11:41  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1814: Cement Plant animation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1814#change-5202
20:05:31  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1602:32e3c36016f8: Change: work in progress on Cement Ki... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/32e3c36016f8
20:05:31  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1814: Cement Plant animation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1814#change-5203
20:05:31  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1814 (Closed): Cement Plant animation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1814#change-5204
20:19:06  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2074 (New): Odakyu 3100 Series Romance (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2074
20:20:48  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2074: Odakyu 3100 Series Romance (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2074#change-5205
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21:12:53  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1603:3bfed8b0a00d: Add: file for Fertiliser Plant layout... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/3bfed8b0a00d
21:12:53  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1604:afd6c05204ea: Change: convert Fertiliser Plant to u... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/afd6c05204ea
21:12:53  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1605:79ff0421f702: Feature: smoke for Fertiliser Plant (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/79ff0421f702
21:12:55  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1817 (Closed): Fertiliser Plant animation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1817#change-5206
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21:36:54  <DanMacK> Welcome Back Andy
21:48:53  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1812 (Closed): Brewery animation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1812#change-5207
21:49:26  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1606:96ca38825af8: Change: consolidate Brewery tiles / l... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/96ca38825af8
21:49:26  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1607:4ee858afe77b: Feature: smoke for Brewery (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/4ee858afe77b
21:53:29  <Terkhen> andythenorth_: did you code showing how much coal a power station burns each month?
21:53:44  <andythenorth_> I removed the power station instead
21:53:52  <andythenorth_> instant removal of problem :)
21:54:18  <Terkhen> :D
21:54:34  <Terkhen> I'm thinking that it would be nice to show that in OpenGFX+ Industries
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21:55:23  <andythenorth_> you'd better use realistic values or you'll have complaints :P
21:56:09  <Terkhen> hmm... I was thinking on just adding all received cargo and showing it
21:56:46  <Terkhen> note that I have no idea of industry code at all :)
21:58:26  <andythenorth_> is it nml or nfo?
22:06:25  <Terkhen> nml
22:06:51  <Terkhen> I should finish my town names GRF first, though
22:08:22  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1608:69eb5288d931: Change: rename file for Brewery tiles... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/69eb5288d931
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22:22:46  * DanMacK loves resizing sprites :/
22:24:01  <Ammler> :-)
22:24:07  <Ammler> good night
22:24:12  <DanMacK> Night :D
22:26:47  <Terkhen> good night Ammler :)
23:09:34  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Code Review #2075 (New): Temperate Locomotives Resized to 28px (DanMacK) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2075
23:10:36  <Rubidium> why am I getting an email about that?
23:11:31  <Terkhen> I was wondering that too
23:11:52  <Terkhen> probably because both of us are listed as OpenGFX developers
23:13:09  <Rubidium> but I didn't get one about the previous one
23:13:13  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2074 (Closed): Odakyu 3100 Series Romance (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2074
23:13:13  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Revision 709:e66b4cc74577: Add: Stuff; (DJNekkid) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/revisions/e66b4cc74577
23:13:13  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2038 (Closed): Budd RDC (DJNekkid) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2038#change-5210
23:13:13  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2065 (Closed): Odakyu 10000 Series Romance (DJNekkid) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2065#change-5209
23:13:15  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2074 (Closed): Odakyu 3100 Series Romance (DJNekkid) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2074#change-5208
23:13:18  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #1887 (Closed): Railbus Class 5047 (DJNekkid) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1887#change-5211
23:21:01  <Brot6> Spanish Town Names - Revision 2:9366d3d3d419: Add: List of spanish towns. (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/spanishtowns/repository/revisions/9366d3d3d419
23:21:01  <Brot6> Spanish Town Names - Revision 3:41fb34bf623b: Feature: Use the spanish town names ingame (without... (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/spanishtowns/repository/revisions/41fb34bf623b
23:22:08  <Terkhen> now to decide how to assign probabilities...
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