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00:01:18  <Yexo> Ammler: on https://dev.openttdcoop.org/my/account the setting "email notifications" is set to "For any event on all my projects" and I can't change it anymore
00:01:38  <Yexo> I'd like it to be "Only for things I watch or am involved in" like previously
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04:07:42  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2076 (New): Panama Canal F40PH (EmperorJake) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2076
07:10:44  <Terkhen> yes, I have the save problem... it displays "Account was successfully updated." but the notification setting is still at "For any event on all my projects"
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08:38:37  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1609:2f7599de9096: Feature: smoke for Brick Works (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/2f7599de9096
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09:08:29  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1610:d1d655939f87: Feature: additional smoke for Brick W... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/d1d655939f87
09:10:17  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1813 (Closed): Brick Works animation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1813#change-5212
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09:58:10  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 503:1a03f443db30: Change: work in progress on Paddle Steamer (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/1a03f443db30
10:14:04  <Ammler> mäh, DevZone email notification seems really broken :-(
10:18:15  <Terkhen> yup, I can't change the setting
10:23:46  <Ammler> how stupid is that?
10:25:03  <Terkhen> it does not even fail when you try to change it; it says the change was successful but keeps it at "for any event"
10:28:32  <Ammler> it does not just not allow to change it, it is also changed to the setting
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11:12:22  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1611:dc1eb93fba6d: Feature: Brewery uses company colour ... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/dc1eb93fba6d
11:21:20  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2077 (New): Series E-28 (EmperorJake) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2077
11:32:09  <Ammler> ok, I switch back to trunk...
11:32:59  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1612:ec8024c43880: Fix: flashing red pixel in Lumber Yard (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/ec8024c43880
11:43:47  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1613:1e7ae6da727f: Change: Brick Works uses define for g... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/1e7ae6da727f
11:43:47  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1614:340669b2f106: Change: partial conversion of Dairy t... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/340669b2f106
11:43:47  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1615:870948f94f01: Change: Dairy tiles / layouts convert... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/870948f94f01
11:50:25  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2065 (Closed): Odakyu 10000 Series Romance (DJNekkid) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2065#change-5209
11:50:25  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2066: Colossal's file with 2TE10 (EmperorJake) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2066#change-5213
11:55:47  <Ammler> Yexo: settings have changed in trunk, that might be why it failed
11:56:02  <Ammler> I went back again to trunk
11:57:01  <Brot6> repository /home/hg/test-the-trunk registered in Redmine with url /home/hg/test-the-trunk
11:57:01  <Brot6> repository /home/hg/test-the-trunk created
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12:08:27  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1616:c18a844fd031: Feature: smoke for Dairy (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/c18a844fd031
12:09:11  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1816 (Closed): Dairy animation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1816#change-5214
12:13:50  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1822 (Rejected): Oil Refinery animation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1822#change-5215
12:14:30  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1823 (Rejected): Oil Rig animation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1823#change-5216
12:15:02  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #810: sprite of airport hangar (2006TTD) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/810#change-5217
12:18:10  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #2052: New Icon in Transparency Options (2006TTD) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2052#change-5218
12:26:15  <Brot6> British Rail OpenTTD Set - Revision 43:e51ba86b52a1: Change: MUs now can connect to a number of c... (DJNekkid) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bros/repository/revisions/e51ba86b52a1
12:28:29  <andythenorth> Ammler: any coop games running FIRS at the moment?
12:28:32  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #1992 (Feedback): Apparent secondary closure bug (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1992#change-5219
12:29:11  <Ammler> visit ps.openttdcoop.org or stable.openttdcoop.org
12:29:22  <Ammler> there you see the newgrf list
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14:12:41  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #2052: New Icon in Transparency Options (Yoshi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2052#change-5220
14:17:58  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #2052: New Icon in Transparency Options (2006TTD) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2052#change-5221
14:23:07  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #2052: New Icon in Transparency Options (Yoshi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2052#change-5222
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15:35:44  <DanMacK> Hey Andy
15:36:32  <andythenorth> DanMacK: about to lose internet...
15:36:34  <andythenorth> brb
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17:18:04  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: update from r708 to r709 done (18 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/2cctrainset/nightlies/r709
17:18:20  <Brot6> bros: update from r41 to r43 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/bros/nightlies/r43
17:18:47  <Brot6> firs: update from r1589 to r1616 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r1616
17:19:15  <Brot6> fish: update from r501 to r503 done (2 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/fish/nightlies/r503
17:19:41  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 32bpp-extra (r39), ai-admiralai (r75), airportsplus (r70), basecosts (r22), belarusiantowns (r8), comic-houses (r71), frenchtowns (r6), grfcodec (r818), heqs (r567), indonesiantowns (r39), manindu (r6), metrotrackset (r56), newgrf_makefile (ERROR r247), nml (r1118), nutracks (r121), ogfx-nogrid (r11), ogfx-rv (r78), ogfx-trains (r201), ogfx-trees (r42), opengfx (r591), openmsx (r97),
17:19:41  <Brot6> opensfx (r97), smts (r19), snowlinemod (r45), swedishrails (r193), swisstowns (r22), transrapidtrackset (r15), ttdviewer (r26), ttrs (r24), worldairlinersset (r669)
17:20:04  <Brot6> Spanish Town Names - Bug #2078 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2078
17:20:08  <Brot6> newgrf_makefile: compile of r247 still failed (#2073) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/newgrf_makefile/nightlies/ERROR/r247
17:25:56  <Terkhen> meh
17:29:02  <planetmaker> good evening
17:30:16  <Ammler> planetmaker: welcome back :-)
17:30:35  <Ammler> please check my contribution to the newgrf framweork :-)
17:32:07  <Terkhen> hi planetmaker :)
17:34:41  <planetmaker> Ammler: seems viewing it online doesn't work. E.g. check out http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/newgrf-makefile/repository/revisions/c891f238fe7f/entry/.devzone/build/requires
17:35:09  <Ammler> oh indeed
17:35:19  <Ammler> I made a rollback and forgot redmine to fetch
17:35:23  <Ammler> use hg.o.o
17:36:08  <planetmaker> hm
17:38:56  <Ammler> new nml project (spanishtowns) failed with the new version
17:41:13  <planetmaker> and it does with tip?
17:42:12  <planetmaker> hm, it seems that it rather needs separate specs for NFO and NML projects; would be better than one general one
17:42:23  <planetmaker> especially wrt requirements like grfcodec or nmlc
17:42:37  <andythenorth> he
17:42:41  <andythenorth> planetmaker is back
17:42:44  <andythenorth> it has been quiet
17:43:33  <planetmaker> Hey :-)
17:44:02  * planetmaker has been doing some skidding or roads and visiting nice people ;-)
17:47:39  <Ammler> planetmaker: the rpm spec isn't the issue
17:48:14  <Ammler> the test is to tell you that your bundle fails, not the failure itself ;-)
17:48:24  <planetmaker> I saw there's another issue which Terkhen opened; but I haven't yet looked at it; you mentioning it I thought it was related to the commit you mentioned ;-)
17:48:32  <Ammler> just run yourself a make in the example project
17:49:07  <Ammler> no, my commit is to help you testing
17:49:09  <Terkhen> the new issue is probably related to my generation script failing, though
17:49:23  <andythenorth> also I should file a ticket about make file
17:49:41  <Ammler> andythenorth: wait for the bugfix
17:49:47  <Ammler> maybe it is related...
18:00:29  <Brot6> British Rail OpenTTD Set - Revision 44:67fea6bf8457: Change: Purchase texts now use D1-range (DJNekkid) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bros/repository/revisions/67fea6bf8457
18:19:13  <Terkhen> planetmaker: http://devs.openttd.org/~terkhen/patches/index.php?source=ogfxplus/oil_refinery.diff <--- should this go in then?
18:19:50  <planetmaker> what does it exactly change?
18:20:23  <Terkhen> oil refineries can be built anywhere
18:20:37  <planetmaker> and what industry type is 0x04?
18:20:52  <Terkhen> the original oil refinery
18:21:10  <Terkhen> since that property is hardcoded, moving all properties to a new ID removes it
18:21:15  <planetmaker> hm, I just wonder that it's that easy, but if it works: yes
18:21:22  <planetmaker> ah
18:21:25  <Terkhen> well, it works for me :)
18:21:31  <planetmaker> well, then go for it :-)
18:21:41  <Terkhen> okay
18:21:51  <planetmaker> the "new ID" was the missing clue for me :-)
18:23:37  <Ammler> shouldn't that be part of manind2?
18:24:31  <Terkhen> IMO limiting the oil refineries to only the borders serves no purpose
18:32:16  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1617:b50f5495e1fb: Change: Machine Shop uses defines for... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/b50f5495e1fb
18:32:16  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1618:16a05d1f8761: Feature: smoke for Machine Shop (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/16a05d1f8761
18:34:47  <DJNekkid> any dutchies here?
18:35:15  <Hirundo> yes, there are
18:35:24  <andythenorth> Terkhen: it would make sense to CS
18:35:30  <andythenorth> all UK refineries are coastal
18:36:14  <Terkhen> indeed, but with all the changes to maps, now being close to the borders != being close to the coast
18:36:22  <andythenorth> yup
18:36:26  <DJNekkid> Hirundo: (assuming you are); could the materieel 36, 40 and 46 connect to eachother?
18:36:39  <Terkhen> the ideal thing would be replacing it by some check for water tiles nearby, but I have no clue on how to do it
18:36:46  <andythenorth> Terkhen: nfo or nml?
18:36:50  <Terkhen> nml
18:37:02  <andythenorth> ok, I don't have ready made code for you then :P
18:37:17  <andythenorth> I'd have to check, but it's probably something to do with cb22
18:37:23  <andythenorth> maybe cb28
18:37:29  <andythenorth> sometimes one is more useful than the other
18:37:49  <Hirundo> DJNekkid: I'd have too look at up, will tell you later
18:37:53  <Hirundo> busy now
18:38:26  <DJNekkid> okidoki :)
18:40:18  <Terkhen> andythenorth: thanks, I'll check both of them :)
18:40:45  <andythenorth> Terkhen: you going to do it now?  I'm happy to help...
18:41:23  <Terkhen> maybe in a few minutes, thank you again :)
18:43:18  <Ammler> andythenorth: why have you assigned the make-snowy-industries tickets to you, doesn't irwe help you there?
18:43:28  <andythenorth> Irwe has left
18:43:33  <andythenorth> :(
18:43:33  <Ammler> oh :-(
18:43:43  <andythenorth> he lost a girlfriend and got a job
18:43:45  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1820 (Closed): Machine Shop animation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1820#change-5223
18:43:53  <Terkhen> :(
18:43:56  <andythenorth> that could be two bad things, or two good things :)
18:43:58  <Ammler> I don't see the relation there :-)
18:44:18  <andythenorth> is economic recession good for TTD? :P
18:44:28  <andythenorth> does lots of unemployed graduates == more commits?
18:44:33  <Terkhen> I hope he comes back some day, his work is very good :)
18:44:37  <Terkhen> andythenorth: in my case yes
18:45:57  <DJNekkid> Hirundo: if/when you give me an awnser, if i dont respond, mind posting it as an issue on the dutchset pages on the devzone?
18:58:57  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2079 (New): Transwa Prospector (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2079
18:59:53  <Brot6> patches: compile of r20994 failed - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/patches/releases/ERROR/r20994
19:00:26  <Hirundo> DJNekkid: mat 36-40-46-54 could be connected
19:00:52  <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: compile of r21653 still failed (#2069) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/32bpp-ez-patches/testing/ERROR/r21653
19:01:37  <DJNekkid> Hirundo: 54 even, oki :)
19:02:21  <Brot6> patches: compile of r21278 failed - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/patches/releases/ERROR/r21278
19:02:35  <DJNekkid> then my templaptes needs expansion :)
19:02:46  <Hirundo> DJNekkid: Do you have enough information about 'realistic' powers/weights etc?
19:03:01  <DJNekkid> yes, i think so
19:03:43  <DJNekkid> the spreadsheet in the dutchset repo (MU_s-tab) is quite thorouh
19:04:00  <Brot6> clientpatches: update from r21488 to r21488 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/clientpatches/testing/r21488
19:04:52  <Brot6> patches: compile of r20690 failed - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/patches/releases/ERROR/r20690
19:05:52  <Brot6> #openttdcoop Server Patch Pack - Bug #2080 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2080
19:24:00  <Hirundo> DJNekkid: Looks quite nice :)
19:24:56  <Hirundo> note that trains in NL rarely go above 140 km/h, even though their design speed is 160 km/h or more
19:31:29  <Brot6> newgrf_makefile: compile of r249 still failed (#2073) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/newgrf_makefile/nightlies/ERROR/r249
19:31:30  <Brot6> Example NewGRF Project - Revision 248:35e7d7cd4a80: Fix (r229): target 'bundle_src' was wrongly d... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/newgrf-makefile/repository/revisions/35e7d7cd4a80
19:31:30  <Brot6> Example NewGRF Project - Revision 249:f46ae56f80d9: Fix (r225) #2071: Source bundles need a Makef... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/newgrf-makefile/repository/revisions/f46ae56f80d9
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19:32:20  <Terkhen> hmmm... it seems that there is still no support for industry callbacks in NML, so I won't be trying to force oil refineries to appear near the coast :P
19:32:24  <andythenorth> k
19:32:30  <andythenorth> do it nfo :P
19:32:46  * andythenorth ponders
19:32:57  <andythenorth> what happens if you decompile an nml newgrf with grfcodec?
19:33:00  <andythenorth> you get nfo?
19:33:52  <Terkhen> yes
19:33:55  <planetmaker> Terkhen: you can use callbacks. But it's not like explicity or conveniently supported
19:34:02  <Terkhen> you can also get nfo directly from NML IIRC
19:34:05  <planetmaker> or is it differently for industries than for vehicles?
19:34:27  <Terkhen> planetmaker: there is no mention of industry callbacks at all at the NML documentation
19:34:42  <andythenorth> it would in theory be easy to go nml -> nfo + more nfo written natively -> compiled grf
19:34:44  <planetmaker> doesn't stop you using the nfo values?
19:34:52  <planetmaker> s/?/./
19:35:02  <planetmaker> the CB_XXX is just a numeric constant anyway
19:35:38  <planetmaker> as is CBF_XXX
19:35:43  <planetmaker> but another one ;-)
19:36:45  <Terkhen> but then I have to get into the scary world of nfo
19:37:01  <planetmaker> not entirely...
19:37:27  <planetmaker> you "just" need to lookup the numbers and keep the rest as NML
19:38:53  <planetmaker> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=Action0Industries#Callback_flags_21_22_ and http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=Callbacks#_List_of_callbacks
19:39:00  <planetmaker> but yes... it's not nice anymore then
19:42:24  <Terkhen> that table does not make any sense to me :(
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20:07:43  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1619:6368f8c9f287: Change: consolidate Metal Foundry til... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/6368f8c9f287
20:07:43  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1620:acc9736aadc8: Feature: smoke for Metal Foundry (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/acc9736aadc8
20:32:00  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1821 (Closed): Metal Foundry animation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1821#change-5224
20:33:42  <Brot6> World Airliners Set - Revision 670:c06a8223e4ba: Alpha 2 changes (FaddyPainter) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/repository/revisions/c06a8223e4ba
20:33:59  <Ammler> :-o
21:07:21  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1621:152110c30c4b: Change: consolidate Aluminum Plant ti... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/152110c30c4b
21:07:21  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1622:41ec1c210435: Feature: smoke for Aluminium Plant (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/41ec1c210435
21:07:21  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #1810 (Closed): Aluminium Plant animation (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1810#change-5225
21:30:29  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 504:31f60df879e7: Change: work in progress on Paddle Steamer (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/31f60df879e7
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21:46:51  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 505:4677bd19d360: Change: update changelog (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/4677bd19d360
21:46:51  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 506:c3896f33e383: Change: adjust default capacity of Utility Vessel to match refi... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/fish/repository/revisions/c3896f33e383
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