Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 25th January 2011:
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04:23:03  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2081: More Graphical Improvements (EmperorJake) @
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07:07:22  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2007: Complete Rework of Freight rolling stock (EmperorJake) @
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07:46:47  <dihedral> oi o/
08:09:57  <dihedral> planetmaker, {LTBLUE}Disable infrastructure building when no suitable vehicles are available: {ORANGE}{STRING}
08:10:04  <dihedral> to: {LTBLUE}Bauen der Infrastruktur deaktivieren sollten entsprechende Fahrzeuge nicht verfügbar sein: {ORANGE}{STRING}
08:10:56  <planetmaker> yes?
08:11:41  <dihedral> i was not sure if you might have a better way of putting it :-)
08:12:24  <Rubidium> this setting needs a very nuanced name
08:13:35  <Rubidium> as the previous name did cause people to think it did things it didn't
08:13:43  <dihedral> heh
08:14:06  <planetmaker> "don't build XXX buildings"? :-P
08:14:18  <planetmaker> like cut vehicles ;-)
08:14:53  <planetmaker> dihedral: I'd translate it the same way
08:15:12  <Rubidium> it used to be "show building tools when no suitable vehicles are available", but that's not what it did
08:15:23  <dihedral> :-P
08:15:37  <dihedral> thanks planetmaker :-)
08:15:38  <Rubidium> it does disable infrastructure building when no suitable vehicles are available
08:15:56  <dihedral> but it still shows the menu entries?
08:16:34  <Rubidium> which means the setting doesn't imply anymore that having it set to "show building tools" means show those rail types that aren't available yet
08:45:14  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2007: Complete Rework of Freight rolling stock (Voyager1) @
08:45:58  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2007: Complete Rework of Freight rolling stock (Voyager1) @
09:26:11  <dihedral> by the way Rubidium, thanks for your last imput regarding grapes
09:26:18  <dihedral> i think i found a way i can work with well
09:26:48  <dihedral>
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09:30:43  <dihedral> ODM does not talk to me :-(
09:49:06  <planetmaker> he doesn't talk at all recently
09:49:18  <planetmaker> :-(
09:51:09  <dihedral> # come back, come back, oh come back to me, to me
09:51:21  <dihedral> he must be pretty busy i'd assume
09:51:30  <dihedral> or it's not ODM but his/her mum :-D
10:01:03  <dihedral> <- LOL
10:01:04  <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums View topic - debian error install. (at
10:02:04  <dihedral> by the way, how big would a statically linked openttd version be?
10:02:11  <dihedral> does anybody know?
10:10:40  <planetmaker> look at the downloads ;-)
10:11:42  <planetmaker> though the official binaries are linked with a specially crafted ICU or it'd get MUCH bigger
10:14:50  <Terkhen> <--- this shows the sizes with different ICU installations for MinGW
10:15:30  <Terkhen> with complete ICU it can be really big :)
10:30:48  <Rubidium> dihedral: the generic binaries are statically linked
10:30:59  <Rubidium> likewise are the windows binaries
10:31:56  <dihedral> are, ok. thanks
10:32:14  <dihedral> none the less, i love that forum post :-P
10:32:58  <Rubidium> yeah, $user doing the wrong thing
10:41:07  <Ammler> instead offering deb packages, you should offer selfinstaller, those could then be used by every distro
10:42:36  <Ammler> maybe there is a tool which converts a .deb to .bin or something similar :-)
10:56:13  <Rubidium> Debian packages have the advantage of having the right metadata for getting the proper libraries installed instead of statically linking them in
10:59:01  <Rubidium> and there isn't even a really cross-platform cross installer as far as I know
10:59:12  <Rubidium> they're talking about it though
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11:29:20  <dihedral> \o/ thgergo
11:30:15  <dihedral> intoduce a flag in the server list which shows servers who's admins donate to openttd :-P
11:31:51  <planetmaker> how many flags would I get?
11:32:20  <planetmaker> and not really, I think ;-)
11:35:23  <Rubidium> and how to verify that?
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11:38:23  <Ammler> rather a flag, bananas grfs only
11:42:10  <planetmaker> Rubidium, the usual way: By giving your openttd login name in the 'usage' field of the money transfer.
12:01:41  <Rubidium> but that doesn't match with servers
12:03:02  <Ammler> hmm, did someone ask for such a feature?
12:03:35  <planetmaker> <dihedral> intoduce a flag in the server list which shows servers who's admins donate to openttd :-P <-- not really. And it'd be somewhat stupid IMHO
12:04:05  <Ammler> maybe you could add a "last big donations" in the donation webpage
12:59:10  <dihedral>  it war more of a joke ;-)
13:26:02  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2007: Complete Rework of Freight rolling stock (EmperorJake) @
13:43:46  <dihedral> Rubidium, you could check that by giving (yet another) id which the server admin has to put into the config file :-P
13:43:54  <dihedral> donation_id = :-P
13:44:03  <dihedral> which is transmitted to the master server :-)
13:57:12  <Rubidium> bah... protocol changes
13:59:07  <Ammler> and such servers are always on top of the sorting :-P
14:01:02  <Ammler> sort donation DESC
14:10:35  <dihedral> hehe
14:11:08  <Rubidium> even then I wouldn't like it when people can buy higher rankings in the server list
14:12:00  <dihedral> nope
14:12:02  <dihedral> :-P
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17:18:13  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: update from r721 to r726 done (6 errors) -
17:18:34  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 32bpp-extra (r39), ai-admiralai (r75), ai-aroai (r11), ailib-common (r21), ailib-direction (r17), ailib-list (r32), ailib-string (r29), ailib-tile (r16), airportsplus (r70), basecosts (r22), belarusiantowns (r8), bros (r45), comic-houses (r71), firs (r1631), fish (ERROR r532), frenchtowns (r6), grfcodec (r821), heqs (r567), indonesiantowns (r41), manindu (r6), metrotrackset (r56), narvs
17:18:34  <Brot6> (r5), newgrf_makefile (r254), nml (r1138), nutracks (r165), ogfx-industries (r3), ogfx-landscape (r22), ogfx-rv (r78), ogfx-trains (r201), ogfx-trees (r42), opengfx (r593), openmsx (r97), opensfx (r97), smts (r19), snowlinemod (r45), spanishtowns (r10), swedishrails (r193), swisstowns (r22), transrapidtrackset (r15), ttdviewer (r26), ttrs (r24), worldairlinersset (r671)
17:41:38  <Brot6> Polish PKP Set - r10.grf (BarthVader) @
17:50:27  <Brot6> Polish PKP Set - Revision 10:ec853ba50a79: Feature: EP05 "The Czech" - "Czesio" (BarthVader) @
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19:02:52  <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: update from r21906 to r21908 done -
19:05:44  <Brot6> clientpatches: update from r21488 to r21488 done -
19:06:49  <Brot6> serverpatches: compile of r21908 still failed (#2080) -
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19:08:31  <DanMacK> Hey all
19:09:11  <Terkhen> hi DanMacK
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19:29:11  <DanMacK> Hey andy, how goes it?
19:29:48  <andythenorth> hey DanMacK :)
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20:09:49  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Revision 727:9f092758da62: Change: Very big change. All units have new vehicle ID... (DJNekkid) @
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20:12:57  <Ammler> welcome back DJNekkid!
20:13:31  <DJNekkid> thank you for noticeing :D
21:09:48  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 568:82ac93a7fce4: Change: partial update of HEQS user man... (andythenorth) @
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22:14:03  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2007: Complete Rework of Freight rolling stock (Voyager1) @
22:15:08  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2007: Complete Rework of Freight rolling stock (Voyager1) @
22:21:04  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2007: Complete Rework of Freight rolling stock (Ammler) @
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22:58:57  <Brot6> feed admintools had 13 updates, showing the latest 10
22:58:57  <Brot6> Grapes - Revision 57:416f537c4dfc: Change: Commands are separate classes and not methods with ann... (dih) @
22:58:57  <Brot6> Grapes - Revision 58:b7703210fd75: Change: loose bindings (dih) @
22:58:57  <Brot6> Grapes - Revision 59:9a1d39b6219f: Fix: (r40) checking the wrong cache for the existence of an ex... (dih) @
22:59:00  <Brot6> Grapes - Revision 60:3088127ef4fb: Add: Annotation to override the plugin name (dih) @
22:59:03  <Brot6> Grapes - Revision 61:fddc3e6180c7: Change: handle the Rename Annotation (dih) @
22:59:06  <Brot6> Grapes - Revision 62:0874290b6c90: Change: use the name or even overridden name in config sections (dih) @
22:59:10  <Brot6> Grapes - Revision 63:c7e4225ec4ff: Change: return the PluginDescriptor of just added Plugin (dih) @
22:59:14  <Brot6> Grapes - Revision 64:68c439538dd6: Change: keep a reference of the currently being loaded / proce... (dih) @
22:59:18  <Brot6> Grapes - Revision 65:a579eccccc0a: Change: make PluginLoader a member (dih) @
22:59:21  <Brot6> Grapes - Revision 66:8e4c07faaee7: Add: registerCommand method to PluginManager. Note: this metho... (dih) @
23:00:08  <dihedral> getting closer to first registered command
23:00:17  <planetmaker> :-)
23:00:47  <dihedral> you did not expect that ey? :-P
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23:40:39  <dihedral> heh - managed first command registration :-)
23:42:07  <Brot6> Grapes - Revision 67:6cfd31a21f38: Change: rather disappointing but the caching of the current pl... (dih) @
23:42:08  <Brot6> Grapes - Revision 68:3608947007c3: Change: cache current plugin being processed (dih) @
23:42:08  <Brot6> Grapes - Revision 69:e621d509b038: Add: method to get the actual PluginDescriptor not just the Pl... (dih) @
23:46:57  <Brot6> Grapes - Revision 70:9462d13c68c1: Add: interface for Commands (follows command pattern) (dih) @
23:46:57  <Brot6> Grapes - Revision 71:c904ee676731: Add: implementation of CommandContext (dih) @
23:46:57  <Brot6> Grapes - Revision 72:c2442c25d1a4: Add: interface for commands limited to the OpenTTDMessageProvider (dih) @
23:48:31  <Brot6> Grapes - Code Review #1996 (Rejected): Command Annotation to be split into 2 separate definitions (dih) @

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