Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 31st January 2011:
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07:34:47  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2232: DB VT04 (Voyager1) @
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10:14:11  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #2228: r727 (EmperorJake) @
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12:21:09  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Revision 730:d8a612246b8f: add: More trains (DJNekkid) @
12:21:09  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Revision 731:3c89f50e4afc: Fix: Minor fixes from r727 (DJNekkid) @
12:21:09  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Revision 732:2955daf228a4: merge: merge (DJNekkid) @
12:29:27  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2232: DB VT04 (Voyager1) @
12:31:10  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #2228: r727 (Voyager1) @
12:31:48  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #2216: Naming of engines (Voyager1) @
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13:25:00  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #2228: r727 (EmperorJake) @
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13:30:56  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #2228: r727 (DJNekkid) @
13:36:59  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2232: DB VT04 (DJNekkid) @
14:09:41  <DJNekkid> it is possible to, and ifso, any pointers to how, mount a windows-share to a linux dir?
14:18:51  <Terkhen> check a ntfs-3g tutorial for your distribution
14:19:14  <planetmaker> smbfs
14:20:09  <Terkhen> oh, not on the same pc, sorry :)
14:21:34  <Ammler> smbfs is depreciated by cifs
14:21:51  <planetmaker> :-) ok
15:06:48  <DJNekkid> yey
15:07:10  <DJNekkid> planetmaker: count i not set an install-dir in somewhere? so that i can "make install" and it will copy the .grf to a specified dir?
15:09:15  <DJNekkid> or i guess i could just make a scrpt where it copy itself...
15:10:38  <Ammler> make install does that
15:30:13  <planetmaker> the default install dir is the global OpenTTD data dir. You can always set another install dir either in your Makefile.local or via command line parameter
15:30:40  <planetmaker> ^ DJNekkid
15:32:27  <planetmaker> it's called INSTALL_DIR
16:12:20  <DJNekkid> hmm, perhaps if i mount my windows7-datadir to my ~/.openttd/data they could actually be shared
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16:20:27  <planetmaker> DJNekkid, mount it to ~/.openttd/data/windows
16:20:40  <planetmaker> but sharing it is a very good idea ;-)
16:20:54  <Ammler> I would not mount to such a subdir
16:20:59  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2232: DB VT04 (Voyager1) @
16:21:00  <Ammler> well
16:21:21  <Ammler> why not :-P
16:22:30  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #2228: r727 (Voyager1) @
16:22:45  <Ammler> but I would rather run a samba server on the linux box and mount from windows
16:23:43  <Ammler> as I assume, you run the linux box 24/7 but not necessary the windows box :-)
16:32:20  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #2228: r727 (Voyager1) @
16:41:26  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #2228: r727 (Voyager1) @
16:52:43  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2229: Change of some graphics (Voyager1) @
16:52:43  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2229: Change of some graphics (Voyager1) @
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16:58:22  <DJNekkid> i already run samba...
16:58:33  <DJNekkid> but i do most work on the windows
16:59:18  <DJNekkid> and i have NO IDEA how i could set openttd to look in another data-dir
17:01:41  <Ammler> is windows still not able to make symlinks or to mount in a subdir?
17:02:12  <DJNekkid> hmm
17:02:16  <DJNekkid> that might be an idea actually
17:02:24  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #2216: Naming of engines (Voyager1) @
17:02:38  <DJNekkid> have the data-folder be a 'shortcut' to the linux-box
17:02:59  <Ammler> not sure, if openttd could handle that
17:03:12  <Terkhen> DJNekkid: if you have windows vista or 7 check mklink, if you have windows XP look for junction
17:03:23  <DJNekkid> win7
17:03:31  <Terkhen> IIRC one of the differences is that mklink works with network folders, but I never tried that
17:04:10  <Terkhen> I currently use dropbox to hold my openttd folder and I just link to it
17:04:30  <Ammler> Terkhen: does that use webdav?
17:04:50  <DJNekkid> no, a normal windows-shortcut didnt do it
17:05:18  <Terkhen> Ammler: I don't know webdav
17:05:36  <Ammler> Terkhen: how do you share data with dropbox?
17:06:29  <Terkhen> you define a folder as your Dropbox folder and its contents get synchronized with the rest of computers with the same account
17:07:11  <Terkhen> you don't really have to configure much, that's why I use it for openttd data
17:10:06  <Ammler> Terkhen: that is a spcieal dropbox tool you need to install?
17:11:32  <Terkhen> yes
17:12:09  <Terkhen> I guess it's similar to rsync and such, but this seemed easier to install on windows and I'm not going to use it for personal data anyways
17:15:13  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Bug #2216: Naming of engines (Voyager1) @
17:18:11  <Ammler> I use webdav
17:18:40  <Brot6> 2cctrainset: update from r729 to r732 done (6 errors) -
17:19:18  <Brot6> firs: update from r1650 to r1658 done -
17:19:52  <Brot6> nutracks: update from r171 to r172 done -
17:20:00  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 32bpp-extra (r39), ai-admiralai (r75), ai-aroai (r11), ailib-common (r21), ailib-direction (r17), ailib-list (r32), ailib-string (r29), ailib-tile (r16), airportsplus (r70), basecosts (r22), belarusiantowns (r8), bros (r45), comic-houses (r71), fish (r567), frenchtowns (r6), grfcodec (r821), heqs (r572), indonesiantowns (r41), manindu (r6), metrotrackset (r56), narvs (r5), newgrf_makefile
17:20:00  <Brot6> (r254), nml (r1139), ogfx-industries (r3), ogfx-landscape (r22), ogfx-rv (r78), ogfx-trains (r201), ogfx-trees (r42), opengfx (r593), openmsx (r97), opensfx (r97), smts (r19), snowlinemod (r45), spanishtowns (r10), swedishrails (r193), swisstowns (r22), transrapidtrackset (r15), ttdviewer (r26), ttrs (r24), worldairlinersset (r671)
17:20:06  <Terkhen> I'll probably end up moving from dropbox to something else that I can trust for all data
17:22:01  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2220: 81-717.5M (Voyager1) @
17:22:26  <Ammler> Terkhen: a old desktop running at your home :-)
17:22:42  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2212: ET171 (Voyager1) @
17:23:08  <Terkhen> I have an old Pentium 4 that would not eat much power
17:23:46  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2217: C8 (Voyager1) @
17:23:54  <Ammler> not you need dyndns and then you can tunnel everything with ssh or create a vpn
17:23:59  <Ammler> now*
17:28:31  <Terkhen> hmm... first I should find a IDE hard drive for it
17:28:43  <Terkhen> I wonder where it went
17:30:24  <Ammler> hehe
17:31:33  <planetmaker> pesky beasts. Just scurry off into the dark corners to hide there...
17:32:07  <planetmaker> but you could try a strong magnet... it'll come automagically towards it .-P
17:34:51  <planetmaker> <-- possibly not a good sign to need, though when trying to find it :-P
17:34:52  <Webster> Title: Magnetic Field Safety, Hazard and Warning Signs - Clarion Safety Systems, LLC (at
17:36:34  <Terkhen> found it (without using magnets), but it only has 8 GB
17:36:53  <Terkhen> I must have a greater one somewhere, it will appear eventually
17:37:06  <planetmaker> he... 8GB is not much anymore ;-)
17:41:10  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2207: Regio Shuttle (Voyager1) @
18:02:55  <Ammler> something like 8TB is needed today :-)
18:12:37  <Brot6> Polish PKP Set - Revision 12:eb40a15e56a6: Feature: EU44 "The Hussar" & ER75 "Flirt" (BarthVader) @
18:12:37  <Terkhen> for this I would be happy with my old 40GB hard drive
18:14:29  <Brot6> Polish PKP Set - r12.grf (BarthVader) @
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19:03:16  <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: update from r21928 to r21931 done (2 errors) -
19:06:09  <Brot6> clientpatches: update from r21488 to r21488 done -
19:07:18  <Brot6> serverpatches: compile of r21931 still failed (#2080) -
19:23:04  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2233 (New): OHE 520 GDT (Voyager1) @
19:31:52  <DJNekkid> hmmm
19:32:19  <DJNekkid> Yexo:  or Rubidium:
19:32:37  <DJNekkid> im haveing abit hard time with the railtypes atm
19:35:38  <DJNekkid> is there some kind of programming that let certain things wont show up?
19:35:51  <DJNekkid> i.e. when i use UKRS2 i do have some 3rd rail vehicles (3rdr)
19:36:12  <DJNekkid> but when i use the default vehicles 3rd rail railtypes wont show in the build menu
19:36:15  <DJNekkid> is that intentional?
19:36:24  <DJNekkid> i mean, it is now 'grayed out'
19:39:09  <Rubidium> what version are you testing with?
19:39:41  <DJNekkid> 1.1.0 beta4
19:40:47  <DJNekkid> or nutracks?
19:42:37  <Rubidium> the OpenTTD version
19:43:02  <DJNekkid> both beta4 and the most recent nightly
19:43:03  <Rubidium> OpenTTD only shows railtypes that will (eventually) be introduced
19:43:12  <DJNekkid> oki :D
19:44:11  <DJNekkid> i.e. _Should_ 3rd rail not be shown if there isnt any 3rd rail engines that might be introduced in the future?
19:44:34  <Rubidium> yes
19:44:50  <Rubidium> I got fed up with the questions when elrail or trams got introduced
19:45:09  <Rubidium> when there wouldn't be such vehicles at all in the particular game
19:45:39  <DJNekkid> good idea :) It was just a new behavoir :)
19:46:40  <DJNekkid> atleast not something i were used to :)
19:47:58  <Rubidium> pre 0.5 had the same behaviour
19:56:07  <DJNekkid> i think i started playing openttd at around the pre-0.6 nightlies
19:57:47  <DJNekkid> or .5 had just came...
20:39:10  <DJNekkid> and another question:
20:39:44  <DJNekkid> with of the properties 17(year), 18 (req) and 19 (gives) like this:
20:39:44  <DJNekkid> 18  \b2   "ELRL" "3RDR" // Intro REQ railtype
20:40:04  <DJNekkid> shoult not then this particular railtype be available if there are any ELRL and 3RDR engines?
20:40:20  <DJNekkid> (in this case 3rd rail with catenary)
20:45:03  <DJNekkid> that is the only property that is set
20:48:36  <Brot6> Nutracks - Revision 173:789d4c4b91a9: Fix: Some minor adjustments and fixed to the 3rd rail track... (DJNekkid) @
20:48:37  <Brot6> Nutracks - Revision 174:f3372025be98: Fix: Metro and 3rd rail tracksets were missings its plannin... (DJNekkid) @
20:51:24  <Brot6> Nutracks - Revision 175:ea737ca71d1c: Added tag 1.0.0-Beta6 for changeset f3372025be98 (DJNekkid) @
20:51:39  <Brot6> nutracks: update from 1.0.0-Beta5 to 1.0.0-Beta6 done -
21:21:45  <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #2234 (New): Thessaloniki 2014 (Voyager1) @
21:28:29  <Ammler> does someone use the grf2html output?
21:31:13  <andythenorth> for what case?
21:33:26  <Ammler> to link sprites directly and such things
21:34:02  <andythenorth> I haven't
21:34:12  <andythenorth> I used it to learn some nfo
21:34:38  <Ammler> andythenorth: I mean those which are genereated from the nightly build, we use it for opengfx
21:34:45  <andythenorth> ho
21:34:47  <andythenorth> no then
21:35:28  <Ammler> I disable it again, people can enable it project based, if they like
21:38:07  <DJNekkid> might be usefull for purnos wiki-project
21:39:48  <planetmaker> why disable it, Ammler ?
21:41:18  <Ammler> DJNekkid: indeed :-)
21:43:16  <Ammler> planetmaker: you use it?
21:43:44  <planetmaker> well, it's not often needed, but sometimes useful
21:44:45  <Ammler> for a single project or in general?
21:45:55  <planetmaker> it's good for a quick overview of all sprites
21:46:06  <planetmaker> quicker than browsing the repo
21:47:17  <Rubidium> someone burns through betas faster than I do ;)
21:49:28  <Ammler> yeah, he could use as good nightlies...
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22:07:03  <planetmaker> yeah ;-)
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23:28:43  <dihedral> Rubidium, i love your message in fs "I can reproducably kill a cat with a microwave if I ignore the message that putting a cat in a microwave might kill the cat. Is killing the cat a release critical error in the microwave?"
23:28:44  <dihedral> :-D
23:30:13  <Rubidium> I don't... it has grammar issues
23:30:26  <dihedral> but the message is lovely :-P
23:35:02  <Brot6> repository /home/hg/ai-dictator registered in Redmine with url /home/hg/ai-dictator
23:35:02  <Brot6> repository /home/hg/ai-dictator created

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