Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 20th February 2011:
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00:28:15  <Brot6> DictatorAI - Revision 57:64a67402a24d: - Correct bug with index found by Zuu (krinn) @
00:40:05  <Brot6> #openttdcoop Client Patch Pack - Bug #2345 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @
01:00:43  <DJNekkid> omg, im not sure if BROS is a good idea afterall
01:12:40  * DanMacK wonders why DJNekkid has reahed this conclusion
01:18:07  <DJNekkid> well, my 'involement' in BROS
01:18:25  <DJNekkid> i've made a (imho) good working template
01:18:52  <DJNekkid> i've tried a few times to get the 'gfx people' to submit gfx
01:18:55  <DJNekkid> but to no avail
01:19:28  <DJNekkid> and a few days ago i did write them a quite thorough 'howto'
01:19:43  <DJNekkid>
01:19:45  <Webster> Title: Help me adding the gfx to the game - Howto (at
01:19:47  <DJNekkid> but still no submits
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01:36:01  <Ammler> DJNekkid: well, you should give them some days more :-)
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08:15:08  <Brot6> FISH - Bug #1134 (Rejected): Look for bounding box errors (andythenorth) @
08:17:47  <Brot6> FISH - Bug #2344 (New): Fix buy menu position for multiple ships (andythenorth) @
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09:09:49  <Brot6> FISH - Bug #2344 (Closed): Fix buy menu position for multiple ships (andythenorth) @
09:09:49  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 598:e843ebbb61d6: Fix: buy menu offsets for multiple ships (andythenorth) @
09:09:49  <Brot6> FISH - Bug #2344 (Closed): Fix buy menu position for multiple ships (andythenorth) @
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10:03:48  <DJNekkid> Ammler: i have all the time in the world :D
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12:32:50  <Hirundo> Yexo: I noticed that DCxx text ids are outputted at the end, but don't they need to be set before they're used in the action 0 ?
12:44:47  <frosch123> the wiki says so for ttdp, ottd does not care
12:46:14  <planetmaker> :-D
12:48:09  <Hirundo> Is there any internal distinction in ottd between D0xx and DCxx ids?
12:50:14  <frosch123> ottd accesses those strings via the grfid and the grf-local textid.
12:50:55  <frosch123> it has some magic to consider d0xx and d4xx the same, but else i guess you could use fxxx strings as well for either of them
12:52:25  <frosch123> but i do not know that part very well
12:56:43  <frosch123> looks like i am wrong :)
12:58:59  <frosch123> maybe there is a maximum of 2048 strings for all grfs together
13:02:05  <andythenorth> planetmaker: if we wanted to revisit GUI sometime...
13:02:16  <andythenorth> ......I believe 'there are too many difficulty setting windows' has been mentioned precisely 63 times in the last 48 hours
13:02:17  <andythenorth> ;)
13:02:41  <Terkhen> :D
13:07:37  <planetmaker> :-)
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13:13:28  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1806:da4f33910be8: Change: add test Windmill graphics to... (andythenorth) @
13:13:28  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1807:91f7cc527c6b: Change: refactor Grain Mill tiles to ... (andythenorth) @
13:13:28  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1808:acbb02ad92e5: Change: consolidate Grain Mill tiles ... (andythenorth) @
13:15:59  <planetmaker> andythenorth, yes, I want to re-visit it. But not today, I'm afraid
13:16:10  <andythenorth> me neither ;)
13:16:35  <Hirundo> hmm... mixing tabs and spaces in python gives surprising result if your tab width != python's tab width
13:18:34  <andythenorth> planetmaker: I'm refactoring a define ID name (BAKERY -> GRAIN MILL).   Does that present problems for translators / translation script?
13:18:41  <andythenorth> or have we engineered all that away now?
13:18:52  <andythenorth> it's used, in, e.g. STR_BAKERY
13:19:48  <andythenorth> correction - STR_IND_BAKERY
13:22:46  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1809:4f36265baa65: Change: refactored, e.g. IND_BAKERY t... (andythenorth) @
13:23:22  <planetmaker> andythenorth, the result will be that the string is untranslated
13:23:36  <planetmaker> Unless you rename it in each client file (provided it has it)
13:23:39  <andythenorth> it's ok I think, as long as I don't change TEXT_IND_BAKERY
13:23:42  <andythenorth> which I won't
13:24:20  <planetmaker> Renaming it in all translations properly is not a hard thing to do ;-)
13:24:30  <andythenorth> no
13:24:45  <planetmaker> Unless of course you want it to be re-translated as the meaning changes
13:24:47  <planetmaker> Then don't do it
13:24:56  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1810:1b38d3197ac7: Change: refactored STR_IND_BAKERY to ... (andythenorth) @
13:24:58  <andythenorth> I'll leave it for now
13:25:05  <planetmaker> bakery->grain mill might just be that case. yeah :-)
13:25:19  <andythenorth> I have bigger grain to mill :
13:25:20  <andythenorth> :P
13:26:18  <planetmaker> lol
13:35:05  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1224:9ffe74fceb3f: Fix: Use the full list of constants instead of... (Hirundo) @
13:35:05  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1225:73ad3bbf117d: Fix: Overwriting an extended byte with an acti... (Hirundo) @
13:35:05  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1226:076359704a37: Fix: Action0 uses an extended byte only for ve... (Hirundo) @
13:35:07  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1227:9ae65d9a8292: Codechange: Make the action4 id an expression ... (Hirundo) @
13:35:11  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1228:4f9ddf0acb2d: Feature: Allow non-constant item ids (closes #... (Hirundo) @
13:35:15  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1229:910a2cfdee45: Doc: Document Action4 code. (Hirundo) @
13:35:18  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1230:d662758881b9: Fix: There are no longer cases where prependin... (Hirundo) @
13:35:24  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1231:d882f651d273: Codechange: Add D0xx / DCxx strings directly a... (Hirundo) @
13:35:28  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1232:d408eee86277: Fix: Make RealSpriteAction inherit from BaseAc... (Hirundo) @
13:41:51  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #2340: Allow non-constant IDs in item-blocks (Hirundo) @
13:49:26  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1811:33364c84d467: Change: work in progress on windmill ... (andythenorth) @
14:26:16  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 599:2e8f54b8cae7: Fix: corrected offsets for Hydrofoils (andythenorth) @
14:26:54  <Brot6> FISH - Feature #2323 (Closed): Hydrofoil bounding boxes need tweaks (andythenorth) @
14:30:29  * andythenorth is learning to hate buy cost and run cost
14:30:44  <andythenorth> way to easy to commit errors when setting them
14:34:46  <planetmaker> Hirundo, would something along the lines of item(FEAT_RAILTYPES, some_id) { properties { label: param[1]; }} be possible to implement?
14:34:51  <planetmaker> Same with cargo labels?
14:35:01  <planetmaker> or maybe by means of a dword2label function?
14:35:09  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 600:511975bb87c5: Fix: Log Raft running cost was wrong (andythenorth) @
14:35:53  <Hirundo> Yes, that should be possible
14:36:11  <planetmaker> should I open a feature request?
14:36:37  <Hirundo> Yes, please
14:37:23  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 601:97eff37e0b24: Fix: Porcupine Hovercraft was too expensive to buy, too cheap t... (andythenorth) @
14:40:43  <andythenorth> making ship running costs a word is out of the question?
14:42:51  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature Request #2332: Engine overrides (action0 feature 8 prop 11) (Ammler) @
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14:44:30  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 602:7a200d981834: Change: adjust costs for Ferries to be fairer (andythenorth) @
14:44:30  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 603:18ad797e773a: Change: adjust costs for Paddle Steamer (andythenorth) @
14:45:05  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature Request #2346 (New): implement a number2label function or allow dw... (planetmaker) @
14:47:55  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 604:ceee28ba2bef: Fix: corrected costs for Hydrofoils (andythenorth) @
15:12:53  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature Request #2332: Engine overrides (action0 feature 8 prop 11) (Ammler) @
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17:08:59  <Brot6> nml: update from r1223 to r1232 done -
17:11:32  <Ammler> planetmaker: are you sure, you fixed the aircraft bugs in opengfx?
17:11:47  <Ammler> I still have "empty" sprites there
17:12:43  <planetmaker> I thought so.
17:19:01  <Brot6> firs: update from r1802 to r1811 done -
17:19:36  <Brot6> fish: update from r594 to r604 done -
17:20:07  <Brot6> heqs: update from r572 to r578 done -
17:20:20  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r743), 32bpp-extra (r39), ai-admiralai (r75), ai-aroai (r11), ailib-common (r21), ailib-direction (r17), ailib-list (r32), ailib-string (r29), ailib-tile (r16), airportsplus (r73), basecosts (r22), belarusiantowns (r8), bros (r51), comic-houses (r71), frenchtowns (r6), grfcodec (r821), indonesiantowns (r41), manindu (r6), metrotrackset (r56), narvs (r18), newgrf_makefile
17:20:20  <Brot6> (r255), nml (r1232), nutracks (r176), ogfx-industries (r3), ogfx-landscape (r34), ogfx-rv (r78), ogfx-trains (r210), ogfx-trees (r42), opengfx (r610), openmsx (r97), opensfx (r97), smts (r19), snowlinemod (r45), spanishtowns (r10), swedishrails (r198), swisstowns (r22), transrapidtrackset (r15), ttdviewer (r26), ttrs (r33), worldairlinersset (r671)
17:22:54  <Brot6> ogfx-landscape: rebuild of r34 done (Diffsize: 6) (DiffDiffsize: 8) -
17:23:10  <Brot6> ogfx-rv: rebuild of r78 done (1 errors) (Diffsize: 7) (DiffDiffsize: 8) -
17:23:29  <Brot6> ogfx-trains: rebuild of r210 done (39 errors) (Diffsize: 9013) (DiffDiffsize: 1571) -
17:24:19  <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: airportsplus, belarusiantowns, frenchtowns, indonesiantowns (1 errors), manindu (Diffsize: 1), narvs (Diffsize: 6), newgrf_makefile, ogfx-industries, spanishtowns, swedishrails (Diffsize: 6), swisstowns
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18:04:21  <Ammler> planetmaker: I tested the nightly, I have empty sprites there too
18:05:07  <planetmaker> bad :-(
18:07:08  <Ammler> well, I wonder, how you still have those but I don't
18:41:15  * andythenorth ponders
18:44:42  <andythenorth> planetmaker: are you busy busy?
18:46:03  <planetmaker> kinda
18:47:03  <andythenorth> nvm
18:50:36  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 605:47d535c5181c: Add: file for Action 14 parameters (andythenorth) @
18:50:37  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 606:019a904cca26: Cleanup: removed unneeded pcx for fishing boat (andythenorth) @
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18:51:30  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 607:639d6839997c: Cleanup: removed unneeded pcx for utility vessel (andythenorth) @
18:52:28  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 608:24866e2b8b69: Cleanup: remove unneeded pcx file for supply tender (andythenorth) @
18:53:33  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 609:f051b19d25b0: Cleanup: remove unneeded pcx for medium trader (andythenorth) @
18:56:13  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 610:b47b831ab023: Change: use png for small vehicle ferry (andythenorth) @
18:56:13  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 611:1ff04461f470: Cleanup: remove unneeded pcx for tow boats (andythenorth) @
19:01:53  <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: compile of r22117 still failed (#2343) -
19:02:54  <Brot6> #openttdcoop Client Patch Pack - Bug #2347 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @
19:05:28  <Brot6> serverpatches: update from r22111 to r22117 done (2 errors) -
19:12:16  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #2348 (New): Steel Works intro date might need to be later (andythenorth) @
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