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00:15:29 *** OwenS has quit IRC 00:16:11 *** OwenS has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 00:56:57 <Brot6> DictatorAI - Revision 93:8ba0d3399414: - Remove unused old code (krinn) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ai-dictator/repository/revisions/8ba0d3399414 00:56:57 <Brot6> DictatorAI - Revision 94:84c7ba78f8f1: - Upgrade road station done thru sticky road function, thi... (krinn) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ai-dictator/repository/revisions/84c7ba78f8f1 01:14:02 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 01:23:28 *** supermop has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 01:58:03 *** thgergo has quit IRC 02:16:50 *** Lakie` has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 02:17:30 *** Lakie has quit IRC 02:30:16 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 03:33:36 *** avdg has quit IRC 03:34:11 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 03:41:49 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 47:f960ae7e9ace: Change: tiles to match FIRS claypit and quarry (wor... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/f960ae7e9ace 03:49:15 *** Lakie` has quit IRC 03:52:47 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 04:12:29 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1857:3264dda07069: Fix: 4 errors caused by warning 97 (u... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/3264dda07069 04:12:39 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 04:26:38 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 04:31:36 *** michi_cc has quit IRC 04:32:37 *** michi_cc has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 05:19:55 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 48:2dbee1ccc470: Change: stub files for plain terrain station tile (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/2dbee1ccc470 05:19:55 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 49:2659b344d7ac: Add: missing files for clay / quarry...don't commit... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/2659b344d7ac 05:21:00 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Feature #2432 (New): Plain terrain tile - may be problematic (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2432 05:21:30 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Feature #2433 (New): Improve appearance of clay / quarry tiles (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2433 05:28:34 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Bug #2434 (New): Multiple instances of warning 209 (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2434 06:23:43 *** supermop has quit IRC 07:31:33 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:40:54 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:00:54 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 08:34:36 *** Webster has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:34:43 *** DJNekkid has quit IRC 08:34:51 *** planetmaker has quit IRC 08:35:11 *** tneo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:35:41 *** DJNekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:36:21 *** planetmaker has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:36:45 *** avdg has quit IRC 08:36:45 *** avdg_ is now known as avdg 09:06:27 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:09:54 <andythenorth> mornings 09:15:30 *** avdg has quit IRC 09:15:53 *** Terkhen has quit IRC 09:16:21 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:16:21 *** Terkhen has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:16:44 <Terkhen> hmm... I wonder why it disconnected 09:18:17 <Ammler> there is somewhere a broken router 09:18:45 <Ammler> try to ping haydn.openttdcoop.org 09:18:55 <Ammler> it is fine from me but others also complained 09:23:16 <Terkhen> both ping and traceroute look fine now 09:24:04 <Ammler> yeah, it is quite hard to reproduce :-( 09:24:39 <Ammler> but because it is not permanent, I quite much doubt, it is a server issue 09:24:49 <Ammler> rahter isp 09:25:37 <Ammler> also I miss "facts" to open a support ticket 09:28:22 <Terkhen> it never happened for me, except one time yesterday and again today 09:28:29 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 09:30:22 <Ammler> yeah, I dunno, if the issue is since my kernel update or if that is just a coincidence 09:31:07 <Ammler> my ping is fine too 09:33:49 <planetmaker> well. It's a couple of nicks using the irc bouncer who experienced that. 09:34:48 <Ammler> whois ammler 09:35:24 <Ammler> I can't ping the oftc servers, so how to test those? 09:36:05 <planetmaker> Ammler, if it was them. wouldn't ALL of our nicks time out simultaneously? 09:36:27 <planetmaker> and how does that related to a timeout on our game servers when playing? 09:36:28 <Ammler> we don't connect to the same server 09:36:47 <Ammler> planetmaker: it might be a broken router at hetzner 09:37:08 <planetmaker> it *might* be many things. 09:37:17 <Ammler> depending on the location someone has, we might not use the same to reach hetzner 09:37:35 <Ammler> would be nice, if someone could make a traceroute when the connection is bad 09:37:43 <Ammler> and compare it with a fine one 09:37:57 <planetmaker> that's too transient to do so 09:39:06 <Ammler> ? 09:39:40 <Ammler> but it could give a hint that we don't use same gateway or whatever 09:39:55 <planetmaker> you have to realise that you timed out. You have to be online and aware of that the exact moment. And then have immediately the idea to traceroute it. Maybe even if you immediately do it when you see the irc timeout, it's too late 09:40:15 <planetmaker> s/it's/could be/ 09:40:23 <Ammler> ususally you don't reconnect to the same server then 09:48:53 <planetmaker> hm, right 11:10:37 <Ammler> planetmaker (or others): http://www.hetzner-status.de/ 11:10:38 <Webster> Title: Hetzner Online AG - Status-Webseite (at www.hetzner-status.de) 11:11:30 <Ammler> our server location is RZ12 11:45:50 <Ammler> @topic add Network issues: http://www.hetzner-status.de/ 11:45:57 <Ammler> @services op 11:45:57 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Webster 11:45:58 <Ammler> @services op 11:46:00 <Ammler> @topic add Network issues: http://www.hetzner-status.de/ 11:46:00 *** Webster changes topic to "Talk about things hosted and developed on http://dev.openttdcoop.org | Downloads log: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/log.csv | Sandbox passwords are the same as the usernames | Network issues: http://www.hetzner-status.de/" 11:52:42 <planetmaker> interesting, Ammler :-) thx 12:00:39 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:02:12 <Ammler> so it looks like my kernel update and the network issues is coincidence :-P 12:02:34 <Ammler> that make me feel happy :-D 12:03:02 <Ammler> or bad about isp, dunno? 12:03:21 <Ammler> hmm, I chose happy ;-) 12:52:10 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:14:04 <andythenorth> morvings 13:17:23 * planetmaker hugs Ammler 13:17:34 <planetmaker> moin andythenorth 14:26:09 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 14:53:16 *** Lakie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:13:27 *** Alberth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:15:05 <Alberth> hmm, finding the url of nightlies through a fixed bug is not ideal :) 16:24:20 <planetmaker> hu? 16:24:58 <planetmaker> care to elaborate, Alberth ? 16:26:59 <Alberth> I was http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/manindu , and wanted to find http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/manindu/nightlies/ 16:27:13 <Alberth> +at 16:27:34 <planetmaker> ah 16:27:40 <Alberth> not exactly trivial 16:27:48 <planetmaker> you could go to bundles.openttdcoop.org 16:27:55 <Lakie> planetmaker: I still think you are missing the commas for the patsubst marco? in the newgrf-makefile project, makefile.common, line 10. :) 16:27:56 <planetmaker> and you'll find everything there :-) 16:28:06 <Alberth> *if* you know that bundles.openttdcoop.org exists 16:28:24 <planetmaker> that's true, Alberth :-) 16:28:47 <Yexo> it's part of the topic of this irc channel 16:29:09 <planetmaker> Maybe, Lakie. I'll look at it. Thanks 16:29:33 <Terkhen> IMO all projects with nightlies / releases enabled should have a link to them in their homepage 16:29:33 <Alberth> I wasn't here :) 16:29:50 <Alberth> I also tried http://dev.openttdcoop.org/ no luck either 16:30:20 <Yexo> hmm, a link to bundles on the dev.openttdcoop.org homepage would be nice 16:31:15 <Alberth> don't know of another generic place 16:31:27 <planetmaker> Lakie: that's an empty line... 16:31:39 <Lakie> Is it? 16:31:58 <planetmaker> can you quote the line itself? 16:32:22 <Lakie> Should be " 16:32:22 <Lakie> $(_V)-rm -rf $(patsubst %.grf %.cnfo $(GRF_FILES)) $(patsubst %.grf %.nfo $(GRF_FILES))" 16:32:54 <Lakie> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/newgrf-makefile/repository/revisions/90795f3dbb1b/diff/scripts/Makefile.common 16:32:58 <Yexo> Alberth: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/ better now? 16:33:25 <Lakie> Sorry, forgot you probably have a few makefile.commons, I meant the nfo one 16:33:45 <planetmaker> no, I didn't update my repo on this machine. You're right :-) 16:34:04 <planetmaker> it's the same Makefile.common for all (ideally) 16:34:10 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:34:26 <Lakie> Ah, I guess that makes maintaince easier. :) 16:34:49 <planetmaker> hence the name "common" ;-) 16:35:10 <Alberth> Yexo: nice, thank you. 16:35:39 <Alberth> evenink frosch123 16:36:08 <planetmaker> thx, Yexo 16:36:32 <frosch123> afternoon everyone 16:37:00 <planetmaker> quak :-) 16:37:30 <Brot6> Example NewGRF Project - Revision 262:d1d1eb98f846: Fix: Missing comma (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/newgrf-makefile/repository/revisions/d1d1eb98f846 16:38:28 <Terkhen> hi frosch123 16:39:59 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:40:39 <Lakie> Thanks, planetmaker 16:44:54 <planetmaker> thank you for reporting :-) 16:47:39 <andythenorth> does CHIPS need buffer tiles? 16:47:43 <andythenorth> I can't be bothered with them 16:48:41 <andythenorth> 20 tile trains fit in 1 tile depot, ships can drive through each other, and trains can reverse magically 16:48:50 <andythenorth> why bother about it looking like a train has touched a buffer stop :P 16:54:00 <Yexo> main reason against them: they can't be build automatically and having them would break automatic buffers 16:54:54 <andythenorth> I find building them annoying 16:55:20 <andythenorth> anyway, I should go to bed :o 16:55:30 <Alberth> sounds like a good reason not to have them :) 16:55:35 <andythenorth> indeed 16:56:01 <andythenorth> good night 16:56:02 <andythenorth> all 16:56:06 <Alberth> good night andy 16:56:10 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 16:59:16 <Ammler> Alberth: blame the manager of manindu ;-) 17:00:42 <Ammler> e.g. you could also add a tab "Downloads" to the project 17:01:19 <frosch123> what? 17:01:47 <Ammler> Alberth: missed a link from your project to the ngihtlies :-) 17:01:54 <Yexo> it isn't obvious to find bundles.openttdcoop.org from a project 17:02:13 <Ammler> Yexo: it depends on the project 17:03:34 <Alberth> the sys admin of the project server did send all managers of the projects an email to alert them of this site and its services? ;D 17:04:19 <frosch123> i did not get any 17:04:27 <planetmaker> [18:00] <Ammler> e.g. you could also add a tab "Downloads" to the project <-- how? 17:04:52 <Alberth> frosch123: your release thread had a post about a worried user that found r5 somewhat old :) 17:05:32 <Alberth> so I redirected him to the nightlies, except finding the url needed a search first 17:05:56 <frosch123> ok, well, if there would be anything interesting, i would have put it on bananas :) 17:06:00 <planetmaker> nvm, easy 17:06:01 <Ammler> planetmaker: a module, I added one for NML guide 17:08:11 <Alberth> frosch123: Yeah, I expected that of you :) And indeed, r6 and r7 were just nmlc-related fixes, I also told him that :) 17:08:21 <frosch123> read it :) 17:08:27 <Ammler> not every manager likes to have the nightlies as public as others 17:08:38 <frosch123> anyway, added those tabs 17:09:11 <Alberth> may you now get many nightly downloads :p 17:09:17 <Ammler> :-) 17:10:35 <Alberth> time to consider some dinner 17:18:33 <Brot6> chips: update from r46 to r49 done (60 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/chips/nightlies/r49 17:19:41 <Brot6> firs: update from r1856 to r1857 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r1857 17:20:12 <Brot6> newgrf_makefile: update from r261 to r262 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/newgrf_makefile/nightlies/r262 17:20:21 <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r743), 32bpp-extra (r39), ai-admiralai (r75), ai-aroai (r11), ailib-common (r21), ailib-direction (r17), ailib-list (r32), ailib-string (r29), ailib-tile (r16), airportsplus (r73), basecosts (r22), belarusiantowns (r8), bros (r52), comic-houses (r71), fish (r617), frenchtowns (r6), grfcodec (r823), heqs (r580), indonesiantowns (r41), manindu (r7), metrotrackset (r56), narvs 17:20:21 <Brot6> (r29), nml (r1285), nutracks (r179), ogfx-industries (r12), ogfx-landscape (r58), ogfx-rv (r80), ogfx-trains (r220), ogfx-trees (r42), opengfx (r618), openmsx (r97), opensfx (r97), smts (r19), snowlinemod (r49), spanishtowns (r10), swedishrails (r198), swisstowns (r22), transrapidtrackset (r15), ttdviewer (r26), ttrs (r36), worldairlinersset (r671) 17:40:01 <Lakie> Am I write in thinking the nfo header is always appended to the top of the <grf>.nfo file, planetmaker? 17:41:12 <Lakie> 'cause if it is, I'd just append the initial "0 * 4 00 00 00 00" to it, since it gets removed anyway, due to the #'s at the beginning of the cnfo 18:04:45 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:15:26 <planetmaker> nfo_header is always being added 18:16:06 <Lakie> Ok, neat 18:16:09 <planetmaker> ^ Lakie . Doesn't it contain this 1st sprite? 18:16:16 <Lakie> No 18:16:36 <planetmaker> hm. I guess I left it out in order to not need to change all existing newgrfs. 18:16:39 <Lakie> I wondered since nforenum ate have of one of my sprites 18:16:46 <planetmaker> could be added to the makefile repo, though 18:17:15 <Lakie> Dunno, just seemd convienant to add it to the header, since it'll only be removed elsewhere 18:17:16 <Lakie> :) 18:18:09 <planetmaker> done ;-) 18:18:28 <Lakie> Heh 18:18:51 <Brot6> Example NewGRF Project - Revision 263:4e5566aaaf3b: Add: [NFO] Add the sprite count sprite to the... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/newgrf-makefile/repository/revisions/4e5566aaaf3b 18:18:53 * Lakie decided not to include any of the nfo header in his pnfos, since its added at the end anyways 18:19:13 <planetmaker> :-) 18:19:35 <planetmaker> Might even be a bit legacy. I recall some circumstances why I added it. Might not even be needed anymore 18:20:28 <Yexo> planetmaker: opengfx? 18:21:07 <planetmaker> hm. that was the reason. indeed. 18:21:41 <planetmaker> well. Having it in the _new_grf makefile is ok, I guess, though 18:21:51 * planetmaker ponders 18:23:12 <Lakie> Does the repo's replace these files for projects or is it our job to copy the updates? 18:25:06 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 18:26:07 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:29:18 <planetmaker> projects have to be updated each separately 18:29:36 <planetmaker> auto updates are far too dangerous :-) 18:30:06 <planetmaker> if it works there's not much point to update :-) 19:02:58 <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: compile of h4b020286 still failed (#2343) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/32bpp-ez-patches/testing/ERROR/h4b020286 19:06:13 <Brot6> clientpatches: update from r to r done (10 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/clientpatches/testing/r 19:08:13 *** michi_cc has quit IRC 19:09:26 <Brot6> serverpatches: update from r22230 to r22232 done (5 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/serverpatches/testing/r22232 19:32:19 <Lakie> Well, its nicely done, though one does need a semi setup hg repository before it works... 19:47:43 <Alberth> just like you need a semi setup computer before you can do stuff... :) 20:15:32 *** michi_cc_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:16:15 *** michi_cc_ is now known as michi_cc 22:18:30 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 22:24:25 *** Alberth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 22:38:16 *** DanMacK has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:02:39 *** ODM has quit IRC 23:43:58 <Brot6> DictatorAI - Revision 95:e48bce563992: - Try to build road near our station to help it expand later (krinn) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ai-dictator/repository/revisions/e48bce563992