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01:31:09 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 03:52:31 *** CyberSoul has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 04:20:53 *** avdg has left #openttdcoop.devzone 04:25:50 *** supermop has left #openttdcoop.devzone 05:33:57 <Brot6> Bundles Update: gea98aee4 2011-03-14 cargodist (http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist) 09:28:08 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:01:03 <Ammler> michi_cc: FS#4537 is ready for review ;-) 12:02:54 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:22:50 *** DanMacK has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:56:53 <Brot6> #openttdcoop Server Patch Pack - Revision 15:c2fbd74a9230: Update to the new findversion script (... (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/serverpatches/repository/revisions/c2fbd74a9230 12:56:53 <Brot6> #openttdcoop Server Patch Pack - Revision 16:9f16deed5153: Update commandsLogging to r22081 (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/serverpatches/repository/revisions/9f16deed5153 12:56:53 <Brot6> #openttdcoop Server Patch Pack - Revision 17:7f85038c29e0: Update commandsLogging to r22250 (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/serverpatches/repository/revisions/7f85038c29e0 13:09:02 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:09:34 *** DanMacK has quit IRC 13:46:53 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 13:47:55 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:42:25 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 14:45:22 <Brot6> DictatorAI - Revision 100:93e5c0d006bf: - Fix fail to find a good place to build a road station i... (krinn) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ai-dictator/repository/revisions/93e5c0d006bf 16:10:03 *** Lakie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:59:25 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:08:50 <Brot6> grfcodec: update from r824 to r825 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/grfcodec/nightlies/r825 17:18:29 <Brot6> chips: update from r53 to r55 done (65 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/chips/nightlies/r55 17:18:44 <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r743), 32bpp-extra (r39), ai-admiralai (r75), ai-aroai (r11), ailib-common (r21), ailib-direction (r17), ailib-list (r32), ailib-string (r29), ailib-tile (r16), airportsplus (r73), basecosts (r22), belarusiantowns (r8), bros (r52), comic-houses (r71), firs (r1857), fish (r617), frenchtowns (r6), grfcodec (r825), heqs (r580), indonesiantowns (r41), manindu (r7), metrotrackset 17:18:44 <Brot6> (r56), narvs (r29), newgrf_makefile (ERROR r263), nml (r1286), nutracks (r179), ogfx-industries (r12), ogfx-landscape (r58), ogfx-rv (r80), ogfx-trains (r220), ogfx-trees (r42), opengfx (r618), openmsx (r97), opensfx (r97), smts (r19), snowlinemod (r49), spanishtowns (r10), swedishrails (r198), swisstowns (r22), transrapidtrackset (r15), ttdviewer (r26), ttrs (r36), worldairlinersset (r671) 17:22:11 *** PeterT has quit IRC 17:23:00 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:23:44 <Brot6> newgrf_makefile: compile of r263 still failed (#2435) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/newgrf_makefile/nightlies/ERROR/r263 17:27:58 <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: 2cctrainset (6 errors), 32bpp-extra (2 errors) (Diffsize: 12), basecosts, bros (1 errors), comic-houses (3 errors) (Diffsize: 22), firs, fish, heqs, metrotrackset (Diffsize: 1), nutracks, ogfx-trees, opengfx, smts (Diffsize: 8), snowlinemod, transrapidtrackset (Diffsize: 12), ttrs (7 errors) (Diffsize: 1324), worldairlinersset (Diffsize: 11) 17:35:02 *** orudge has quit IRC 17:35:04 *** orudge has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:53:47 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:14:36 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 56:7b7ea203c23f: Fix: use the per-tile random bits, not the per-stat... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/7b7ea203c23f 18:17:55 *** CyberSoul has left #openttdcoop.devzone 18:19:42 * Lakie has programmers block over vehicles wheither to take ids or names,(or both) 18:22:41 <planetmaker> you need a name 18:22:54 <planetmaker> and you can choose an id to pin-point the id explicitly 18:23:11 <planetmaker> item(FEAT_XXX, name, id) 18:23:21 <planetmaker> you can leave out the ",id" part 18:24:04 <planetmaker> the name may be anything which qualifies as an identifier (alphanumeric, starting with a letter) 18:45:07 * Lakie was thinking more of string idenifiers 18:45:55 <Yexo> I'd go for names, that makes it a lot easier to change the ids later on 18:50:42 *** Webster` has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:52:45 *** Webster has quit IRC 18:52:45 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 18:52:45 *** Ammler has quit IRC 18:52:45 *** Webster` is now known as Webster 18:52:50 *** welshdragon has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:52:50 *** Ammler has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:03:13 <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: update from r22094 to r22251 done (2 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/32bpp-ez-patches/testing/r22251 19:06:19 <Brot6> clientpatches: update from r to r done (5 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/clientpatches/testing/r 19:09:29 <Brot6> serverpatches: update from r22240 to r done (12 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/serverpatches/testing/r 19:25:47 *** welshdragon_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:25:47 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 19:26:20 *** orudge has quit IRC 19:26:20 *** orudge has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:41:14 *** Ammler has quit IRC 19:41:15 *** Ammler has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:47:37 <Lakie> Yexo: I gather {STRING} would be read string from stack, but was its 1 and 2 varients? 19:47:56 <Lakie> {STRING1} for example, or should I just not bother with those? 19:48:27 <Yexo> that's openttd-language files only, not supported by nml 19:48:36 <Lakie> Ok, so just {STRING}? 19:48:42 <Yexo> yes 19:48:51 <Yexo> that part of nml is not really tested though 19:48:56 <Lakie> Cool. :) 19:48:59 <Yexo> {STRING} = byte code 80 19:49:21 <Lakie> Hmm.. well, I imagine colour codes would be used a lot. :) 19:49:30 <Lakie> How does one refer to another string? 19:49:33 <Yexo> yes, but including other strings is not 19:49:39 <Yexo> that is part of the problem :) 19:49:51 <Lakie> {STRING=<name>}? 19:49:52 <Yexo> return string(SOME_STRING); in a switch block is supported 19:50:10 <Lakie> I was thinking in strings, since from memory one can 19:50:21 <Yexo> ah, you want string code 81, not 80, right? 19:50:23 <Lakie> albet, unlikely to be used 19:52:21 <Lakie> Or does nml not allow such a case? 19:52:28 <Yexo> string code 81 is not yet supported 19:52:54 <Lakie> Since I only care to match nml's tag support for now. 19:54:22 <Yexo> including another string is only supported via the stack, using sto in a varaction2 to store the stringid on the stack and reference it via code 80 later 19:54:26 <Yexo> {STRING} = the code 80 19:54:44 <Lakie> Why does it have appended to its line 'allow=case'? 19:55:41 <Yexo> if you string has cases, you can chose a case by using it like {STRING.casename} 19:55:54 <Yexo> s/if you string/if your language/ 19:56:50 <Yexo> using that will most likely make your grf incompatible with ttdpatch though 19:56:57 <Lakie> Likely, 19:57:47 <Lakie> And then it becomes one of those include if language things? 20:00:09 <Yexo> yes, although looking at the code it seems nml doesn't support that completely currently 20:01:18 <Lakie> Hmm.. well, in that case I'll skip the gender/case stuff util it does work, and keep only the simple tags. :) 20:01:43 <Lakie> To be honest, the gender / case stuff looks pretty complex to me, with my noobish python skills 20:01:55 <Yexo> it is quite complex 20:14:59 *** welshdragon_ is now known as welshdragon 20:19:29 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 57:c74e9022ac21: Change: use GRM for the buffer sprites (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/c74e9022ac21 20:19:29 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 58:03410806d613: Change: use GRM for the ground sprites around the t... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/03410806d613 20:19:29 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 59:6483bafd3315: Change: don't use bounding boxes for the overlay gr... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/6483bafd3315 20:19:32 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 60:9249b93c9e4c: Feature: cargo support for the platforms with tracks (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/9249b93c9e4c 20:47:25 *** Webster has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:49:37 <Lakie> Would it be acceptable to use {string=<strname>} for , Yexo? Obviously erroring if <strname> doesn't exist in the default language? 20:50:03 <Lakie> Or better to just ignore it as its so unlikely to be used? 20:50:29 <Yexo> I'd prefer something else than 'string' to differentiate between and 20:50:50 <Yexo> {include_string=<strname>} or {str_incl=<strname>} or anything like that would be fine 20:52:15 <Yexo> in nml the "=<strname>" part will probably be optional, you'll be able to specify it directly in the nml-file, like string(STR_THAT_INCLUDES_ANOTHER_STRING, string(STR_THAT_IS_INCLUDED)) or something like that 20:52:54 <Lakie> Hmm. 20:53:24 <Lakie> I was hoping for something more in the lang file, since that's all I'm processing 20:53:51 <Lakie> Ah well, keep it simple I guess 20:53:55 <Yexo> if it's only in the lang file, that makes somewhat pointless, as you might as well directly include the string 20:54:06 <Lakie> Thats true 20:54:28 <Lakie> Though, it could be a non-ttd string. 20:54:33 <Lakie> Well, non-grf one 20:54:52 <Lakie> But, it does sound like somewhat of a headache to support 20:55:03 <Yexo> only a few non-grf strings are supported by openttd anyway 20:55:26 <Lakie> Ok, so just keep to . :) 20:55:39 <Yexo> you can just implement the lang-file part of 20:55:49 <Yexo> nml could extend the syntax but won't break it 20:56:26 <Yexo> as is not supported everywhere 20:57:53 <Lakie> Ok, 21:04:30 <Brot6> DictatorAI - Revision 101:e4fcc7ab7d05: - Filter too poor aircraft speed: some (in newgrf) aren't... (krinn) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ai-dictator/repository/revisions/e4fcc7ab7d05 21:08:22 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 221:b005528c6048: Change #2408: Declare sprites specifically also for ... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/b005528c6048 21:16:46 <planetmaker> hm, any idea why the graphics for the valuables monorail / maglev wagons are not used? 21:16:58 <planetmaker> http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/ogfx-trains.nml is the source or current ogfx+trains 21:24:04 <frosch123> no "sprite_id: SPRITE_ID_NEW_TRAIN;" ? 21:30:37 <Ammler> could you please reject FS#4537, it is not working :-( 21:31:30 <Yexo> frosch123: any chance your extended tile layouts could also work for stations? 21:31:34 <Yexo> it'd make chips a lot easier 21:32:46 <frosch123> did not look into that, but might be worth considering 21:33:14 <frosch123> sadly stations are already so complex :s 21:33:27 <SmatZ> Ammler: done :( 21:33:28 <frosch123> with different spritesets for ground and rest 21:33:34 <frosch123> and such :p 21:33:39 <Yexo> I haven't even touched that 21:34:00 <Ammler> thanks SmatZ, I need to rethink it :-P 21:34:03 <SmatZ> :) 21:34:11 <SmatZ> Ammler: thanks for coding stuff :) 21:38:20 <planetmaker> doh. Thank you frosch123 21:38:21 <SmatZ> Ammler: I would do something with FS#3375, but I have no clue about rmp stuff 21:38:29 <planetmaker> :-) "Tomaten auf den Augen" :-) 21:38:48 <frosch123> :) 21:40:27 * Rubidium interprets that selfishly as an euphimism for moimoi ;) 21:41:12 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 222:7dd542f740e7: Fix #2408: Actually use also the sprites for the val... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/7dd542f740e7 21:41:12 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Bug #2408 (Closed): Armoured Wagons (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2408#change-6205 21:42:01 <frosch123> "Moimoi is a rich steamed beans cake eaten all over Nigeria and beyond." 21:42:32 <planetmaker> :-D 21:42:42 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 61:f896f5555e29: Feature #2423: use crates for alcohol, building mat... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/f896f5555e29 21:42:53 <Yexo> time for andy to draw more graphics :) 21:43:02 <planetmaker> hehe 21:46:29 <Ammler> SmatZ: maybe best is to simply remove the spec then 21:47:14 <Ammler> anyway, the spec in the svn trunk is a mess 21:48:27 <SmatZ> Ammler: would removing it cause problems on Debian? 21:49:02 <Ammler> debian has its own build script, you could also replace the spec with the one from fedora 21:52:27 <Ammler> or tell me what is bad about the patch and I fix :-) 21:53:41 <frosch123> night 21:53:45 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 22:14:05 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 223:a649678ef008: Feature #2411: Allow flipping of the non-symmetric e... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/a649678ef008 22:15:01 <planetmaker> V453000: does it matter if symmetric engines cannot be flipped at all? 22:16:52 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Feature Request #2411: Reversing engines (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2411#change-6206 22:38:16 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 224:f77947b7ae83: Add #2284: Special purchase list sprites for those w... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/f77947b7ae83 22:52:07 <planetmaker> g'night 23:00:52 <V453000> planetmaker: it does a lot 23:02:18 <V453000> for example, you start the game with SH40, but you know you will want to end up with Lev3... so you want to make a SH40 at each end, and the rear one reversed ... and of course then when you replace to Lev3, they just "auto-flip" :) 23:02:53 <V453000> anyway, gnight 23:06:21 <Ammler> hmm, that is the whole point why that misfeature is that bad, you should not need allow flip, you should be able to disable flip for a glitching engine 23:07:26 <Ammler> (if you ever find one) 23:54:25 *** ODM has quit IRC 23:59:02 *** michi_cc has quit IRC