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01:01:57 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1292:e309a580a0a2: Cleanup: remove semicolons at the end of lines (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/e309a580a0a2 01:01:57 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1293:6f3f0b935eed: Fix: cases in the language file caused an inte... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/6f3f0b935eed 01:01:57 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1294:7b3721a5ec9d: Feature: allow a 1 character long literal stri... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/7b3721a5ec9d 01:01:59 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1295:4cde320ba2bc: Doc: ast-node of error-block (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/4cde320ba2bc 01:02:02 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1296:e9b6b0c98319: Add: name of town_names block as comment to nf... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/e9b6b0c98319 01:10:23 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 04:39:55 *** supermop has quit IRC 07:07:34 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Feature Request #2411: Reversing engines (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2411#change-6279 07:41:59 <planetmaker> ^ V453000 07:42:37 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Feature Request #2411: Reversing engines (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2411#change-6280 07:49:35 <V453000> looks good :) 07:51:16 <planetmaker> :-) I'm just concerned it looks a bit too big and blunt 08:32:49 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #56: rework region availability parameter (Purno) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/56#change-6281 08:33:49 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:34:40 <Brot6> DictatorAI - Revision 103:85126491cf49: - Try to find a better job for passenger by limiting carg... (krinn) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ai-dictator/repository/revisions/85126491cf49 08:37:00 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 11:15:49 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #56: rework region availability parameter (DJNekkid) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/56#change-6282 11:30:25 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:44:11 *** Lakie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:12:51 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:18:28 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #56: rework region availability parameter (Purno) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/56#change-6283 12:25:33 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #56: rework region availability parameter (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/56#change-6284 13:00:32 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #56: rework region availability parameter (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/56#change-6285 13:21:08 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #56: rework region availability parameter (DJNekkid) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/56#change-6286 13:41:56 <Ammler> planetmaker: teach DJNekkid how to disalbe/enable a vehicle ;-) 13:47:14 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #56: rework region availability parameter (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/56#change-6287 13:47:44 <planetmaker> I'll try ^ :-) 15:52:36 *** Lakie` has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:59:34 *** Lakie has quit IRC 16:07:33 <Brot6> 2cc train set - Feature #56: rework region availability parameter (DJNekkid) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/56#change-6288 16:37:13 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:09:24 <Brot6> nml: update from r1286 to r1296 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/r1296 17:17:21 <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r750), 32bpp-extra (r39), ai-admiralai (r75), ai-aroai (r11), ailib-common (r21), ailib-direction (r17), ailib-list (r32), ailib-string (r29), ailib-tile (r16), airportsplus (r73), basecosts (r22), belarusiantowns (r8), bros (r52), chips (r78), comic-houses (r71), firs (r1858), fish (r617), frenchtowns (r6), grfcodec (r825), heqs (r580), indonesiantowns (r41), manindu (r7), 17:17:21 <Brot6> metrotrackset (r56), narvs (r29), newgrf_makefile (ERROR r263), nml (r1296), nutracks (r179), ogfx-industries (r12), ogfx-landscape (r58), ogfx-rv (r80), ogfx-trains (r224), ogfx-trees (r42), opengfx (r618), openmsx (r97), opensfx (r97), smts (r19), snowlinemod (r49), spanishtowns (r10), swedishrails (r198), swisstowns (r22), transrapidtrackset (r15), ttdviewer (r26), ttrs (r36), worldairlinersset (r671) 17:20:07 <Brot6> newgrf_makefile: compile of r263 still failed (#2435) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/newgrf_makefile/nightlies/ERROR/r263 17:22:01 <Brot6> swedishrails: rebuild of r198 done (Diffsize: 6) (DiffDiffsize: 8) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/swedishrails/nightlies/r198/log 17:22:16 <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: airportsplus, belarusiantowns (Diffsize: 30), frenchtowns, indonesiantowns (1 errors), manindu, narvs, ogfx-industries, ogfx-landscape (Diffsize: 6), ogfx-rv, ogfx-trains, spanishtowns, swisstowns (Diffsize: 156) 17:30:27 <Ammler> planetmaker: why don't you apply the fix? 17:55:52 <Yexo> <Brot6> swedishrails: rebuild of r198 done (Diffsize: 6) (DiffDiffsize: 8 <- any way to found out the actual diff? 18:01:06 <Ammler> Yexo: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/swedishrails/nightlies/r198/log/RELEASE-13.diff 18:02:10 <Yexo> I see, but that's not really helpful 18:02:15 <Ammler> why? 18:02:26 <Yexo> I can see that the grf changed, but not what has changed 18:02:34 <Yexo> a diff of the nfo output would be more helpful 18:02:48 <Yexo> although I don't think there is any nfo output at all currently 18:02:49 <Ammler> well, planetmaker doesn't want to make the nfo 18:03:12 <Ammler> in the projects, where a nfo is generated, you would see the nfo 18:03:21 <Yexo> ok 18:03:21 <Ammler> nfodiff* 18:03:22 <planetmaker> Ammler: there's probably nothing wrong with it 18:03:32 <planetmaker> I just did not have any time to look at it 18:04:02 <planetmaker> or which nfo don't I want to 'make'? 18:04:05 <Ammler> well, it is quite a simple thing, I just removed the header from mygrf.nfo 18:04:19 <Ammler> planetmaker: nfo of nml projects 18:04:32 <Ammler> hmm, we talk about different things :-) 18:04:38 <planetmaker> oh :-) 18:04:46 <Ammler> the diff I posted is for the example grf 18:05:12 <planetmaker> Well. I did not think it's needed as regression tests. But I would not really mind it. But I would mind to modify the makefile to automatically generate it by default 18:05:29 <planetmaker> as generating nfo is not quick 18:05:52 <Yexo> so never mind that 18:05:59 <Yexo> I'll generate it locally when I think it's needed 18:06:24 <planetmaker> well. I _don't_ mind, if the CF would always produce it 18:06:33 <Ammler> well, we could add nmlc --nfo additional to the buildscript 18:06:39 <planetmaker> The only thing I'd mind is if a normal call of 'make' would do so 18:06:40 <Ammler> or you make a target nfo or so 18:06:51 <planetmaker> that's both fine with me 18:07:14 <Ammler> nmlc --nfo *.nml ? 18:07:19 <Ammler> would that work? 18:07:39 <Yexo> that means nmlc is called twice 18:07:54 <Yexo> nmlc --nfo filename.nfo *.nml 18:07:59 <Yexo> --nfo needs the filename as argument 18:08:01 <planetmaker> nmlc --output blub.nfo --output blub.grf blub.nml 18:08:24 <Ammler> can we modify the nmlc flags on the server script? 18:08:26 <Yexo> ^^ that is the better approach, it means nmlc is only run once 18:08:40 <planetmaker> which? 18:08:51 <Ammler> adding --output blub.nfo 18:08:57 <planetmaker> Ammler: sure we can. 18:09:08 <Ammler> then that would be easiest, wouldn't? 18:09:13 <Ammler> tell me how :-) 18:11:01 <Ammler> Yexo: why does --nfo need a filename btw., why not simply use the same as input? 18:11:21 <Yexo> --grf needs a filename too, as does --output (= -o ) 18:12:29 <Ammler> yeah, any reason? 18:12:45 <Ammler> does it make sense to have another name for input than ouput? 18:13:16 <Yexo> because almost all commandline tools work like that? 18:15:11 <Ammler> grfcodec doesn't :-) 18:15:23 <Ammler> all the compressor tools don't 18:15:39 <Ammler> but doesn't matter, whould not be a issue 18:56:30 <Brot6> Example NewGRF Project - Bug #2435 (Closed): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2435 18:56:30 <Brot6> Example NewGRF Project - Revision 264:a89cce6c7294: Fix #2435: Better don't include the sprite co... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/newgrf-makefile/repository/revisions/a89cce6c7294 18:56:30 <Brot6> Example NewGRF Project - Bug #2435 (Closed): DevZone compile failed (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2435#change-6289 18:57:13 <Brot6> newgrf_makefile: update from r262 to r264 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/newgrf_makefile/nightlies/r264 18:59:22 <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a testing update: 32bpp-ez-patches (ERROR r22255), clientpatches (r22255), serverpatches (r22255) 19:51:59 <Ammler> :-o no openttd commit? 19:52:45 <Yexo> not even a language update today 19:52:49 <frosch123> lazy translators :p 19:52:54 <Ammler> indeed 19:54:30 <Terkhen> heh 19:55:15 <frosch123> poor tk and pm, they cannot blame some group :p 19:55:32 <frosch123> +glx as well 19:57:36 <Terkhen> that's no problem, I already know I'm lazy :) 19:58:11 <Terkhen> for the translation I'm blaming the lack of feedback, though 20:01:10 *** Lakie` has quit IRC 20:01:32 *** Lakie` has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:07:18 <Brot6> Nutracks - Feature #2447 (New): intro dates (DJNekkid) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2447 20:07:27 <Ammler> Terkhen: then you do your job good :-) 20:32:55 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 21:18:13 *** DanMacK has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:34:26 *** DanMacK has quit IRC 21:50:30 *** DanMacK has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:08:46 <planetmaker> V453000: around? 22:08:54 <V453000> yes :) 22:09:03 <planetmaker> Got any idea how to sensibly set wagon speed limits for OpenGFX+Trains? 22:09:12 <V453000> yes, disable them :D 22:09:12 <planetmaker> Not that it matters for you or me, but... :-) 22:09:16 <planetmaker> :-P 22:09:28 <planetmaker> Well, OpenTTD does that for us. But some people like it 22:09:50 <planetmaker> Like 80km/h for 1st gen, 120km/h for 2nd gen? 22:09:55 <V453000> I really see no point in that feature _at_all_ so I am not able to make any decision that would have any reasons 22:10:08 <V453000> but probably one: all wagons to have the same speed at the same date :) 22:10:35 <planetmaker> yeah, that's what I'd do. Maybe, just maybe differ mail/pax/valuables and the rest 22:10:54 <planetmaker> but not for now. And I thought I might fulfill that feature request, too 22:11:01 <planetmaker> Not difficult. Just pointless :-P 22:24:53 <Terkhen> hmmm... I don't see the point for that either 22:24:53 <V453000> :p 22:25:12 <V453000> btw make maglev wagon speed limits? xD something original, no? :D 22:27:56 <Terkhen> why don't you add a string to all wagons: "Wagon speed is limited to the engine speed" 22:31:13 <planetmaker> Terkhen: but you get that already when you have the "wagon speed limits" disabled in the adv. settings 22:31:29 <Terkhen> heh :D 22:31:37 <planetmaker> And some people seem to like it. I don't mind it then. It's just a matter of how to set the property 22:31:45 <planetmaker> not that it is much work 22:32:19 <Terkhen> hmm... only that? wouldn't you need to define multiple wagons with different max speeds and costs? 22:34:01 <DJNekkid> do i understand action6 correctly that i can have more then 1 'thing to do' ? (for example one parameter adjust something, and a 2nd parameter to adjust something ? 22:36:01 <planetmaker> Terkhen: I can just set the wagon speed limit to X and that's it 22:36:10 <planetmaker> for each wagon of course 22:36:12 <Terkhen> as a parameter? 22:36:17 <planetmaker> oh, I won't do that 22:36:20 <planetmaker> hard-coded 22:36:42 <Terkhen> hmm... but then either you have unusable engines or the wagon speed limits are pointless 22:36:45 <planetmaker> in the general wagon templates 22:36:51 <planetmaker> uh? 22:37:08 <planetmaker> oh, you mean some engines are then pointless? Well... 22:37:09 <Terkhen> or maybe I'm misunderstanding how the limits work :) 22:37:25 <planetmaker> that's why I don't like it, yes 22:37:32 <Terkhen> yes, if you set the limit to X, engines with speeds > 22:37:38 <planetmaker> MU might work differently there 22:37:43 <Terkhen> >X will not be much useful 22:37:50 <planetmaker> yep 22:38:08 <planetmaker> DJNekkid: you can have an action6 modify the following sprite in several places afaik 22:38:21 <Yexo> indeed, you can modify as many places as you want within the next sprite 22:38:32 <Yexo> see chips code as an example :) 22:38:37 <Terkhen> I think that the people suggesting that actually want something like the 2cc wagons 22:39:21 *** DanMacK has quit IRC 22:41:09 <planetmaker> hm, what do the 2cc wagons do? 22:41:44 <planetmaker> afaik they 'just' have different generations 22:41:49 <planetmaker> with different properties 22:42:00 <DJNekkid> not for long :) 22:42:18 <DJNekkid> voyager is 'spamming' some really nice ones 22:42:25 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 22:42:38 <DJNekkid> there are gonna be 4 different gfx for all/most wagons 22:44:05 <Terkhen> yes, IMO without different wagons the feature is not really useful 22:45:22 <planetmaker> hm. yeah, probably 22:45:32 <DJNekkid> for example, the IC pax wagons will be a combination of 2nd class, 1st class, diner and sleeper 22:45:39 <planetmaker> different topic: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2411 <-- what do you think of that, Terkhen ? 22:46:48 <Terkhen> IIRC it just needed setting a flag/property, right? 22:47:12 <planetmaker> yes. I rather meant the graphics suggestion for symmetric engines ;-) 22:47:49 <Terkhen> oh, I'll read further then, sorry :) 22:47:50 <planetmaker> as visual feedback within depots 22:50:14 <Terkhen> hmm... looks tedious to implement / draw 22:50:50 <planetmaker> not at all 22:51:10 <planetmaker> 5 minutes per engine 22:51:45 <planetmaker> open. copy&paste engine. copy&paste arrow. save. done 22:52:20 <planetmaker> and then apply the depot view template to the source 22:52:34 <Terkhen> hmm... you have all of those sprites already in the NewGRF? 22:53:18 <planetmaker> http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/index.php?source=depot_view.diff 22:53:23 <planetmaker> yes 22:54:45 <planetmaker> hm, forgot to add a file. updated 22:56:49 <Terkhen> looks simpler than I expected :) 22:56:55 <Terkhen> // We define this in a separate file <-- s/this/sprites/ 22:57:16 <Terkhen> but still it is long to do it for all engines 22:57:30 <planetmaker> it only needs doing for the few symmetric ones 22:57:45 <planetmaker> the others where you see it visually... no need to do anything there, I think 22:58:00 <planetmaker> There I just enabled flipping and done 22:58:19 <Terkhen> hmm... okay, sounds good then :) 22:59:34 <planetmaker> mostly I wonder whether that arrow is a good idea :-) - but without *something* one would not know whether it's flipped or not. And that might matter for replacement 22:59:53 <planetmaker> as V pointed out correctly 23:00:35 <planetmaker> hm, s/this/sprites would be a separate commit. It's used everywhere where the engine is defined in a separate file :-) 23:01:01 <Terkhen> hmm... I can't think of a better option 23:01:11 <planetmaker> ok :-) 23:01:23 <planetmaker> well, easy to change later on, too 23:01:42 <planetmaker> Thanks for the feedback :-) 23:02:12 <Terkhen> :) 23:05:13 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 225:cd9d919e7679: Add #2284: Special purchase list sprites for the Kel... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/cd9d919e7679 23:05:13 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 226:1146d78f7938: Doc: Be more verbose what we (re-)define where (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/1146d78f7938 23:05:22 <planetmaker> But looks like the other engines are for another day :-) 23:05:28 <planetmaker> Good night 23:05:47 <Terkhen> good night planetmaker 23:21:44 *** supermop has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:58:19 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone