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00:17:08 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 00:19:07 *** Rubidium has quit IRC 00:19:08 *** Rubidium has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 01:03:58 <Brot6> Bundles Update: 1.1.0 2011-04-14 32bpp-ez (http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/32bpp-ez) 01:19:23 *** Lakie` has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 01:26:09 *** Lakie has quit IRC 02:01:58 *** Lakie` has quit IRC 04:19:33 *** supermop has quit IRC 06:53:37 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #2530 (New): Change roof pitch of farmhouse (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2530 06:54:23 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #2531 (New): Increase contrast of SE face of bakery building (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2531 07:07:52 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1951:7ebcdcea2b08: Fix: restored layers to Furnture Fact... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/7ebcdcea2b08 07:07:52 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1952:00f0c18f16de: Change: further lighten shading of Fu... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/00f0c18f16de 07:07:52 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1953:25842cf6c3f5: merge (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/25842cf6c3f5 07:18:38 <planetmaker> :-D 07:35:14 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:45:45 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:15:03 *** Ruudjah has quit IRC 11:57:26 *** ODM has quit IRC 13:06:14 <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 625:f66b514f2524: Codechange: Rework NML-alignment templates for rail vehicles (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/f66b514f2524 13:06:43 <planetmaker> ? 13:26:25 <Ammler> planetmaker: just to be sure, you know that nmlc.exe doesn't work with pcx? 13:26:42 <planetmaker> no, I don't. But on windows 13:26:48 <planetmaker> I forgot. Thanks 13:26:49 <Ammler> nmlc.exe 13:27:59 <Ammler> maybe, it should be mentioned in the Readme or a an additional txt file for the windows bundle? 13:28:25 <planetmaker> yes, it should 13:28:58 <Ammler> oh, easy, there is no readme at all :-P 13:28:59 <planetmaker> is it a ply issue or something with the way we bundle it? 13:29:08 <planetmaker> no readme, no docs? 13:29:29 <Ammler> yes, nml doesn't have readme, does it? 13:29:30 <planetmaker> IMHO it should be part of the docs. They are shipped with the exe, are they? 13:29:34 <Yexo> ply = the lexer, it has nothing to do with that 13:29:41 <planetmaker> uhm. PIL :-) 13:29:44 <Yexo> it's probably something of PIL, the imaging library 13:30:05 <Yexo> I don't think the docs are shipped with the exe 13:30:05 <Ammler> docs is not necessary something you like to read, when you have issues 13:30:15 <planetmaker> Ammler: but that's what they're made for 13:30:43 <Ammler> well, readme is a requirement, isn't? 13:31:42 <Ammler> we don't know, why pcx doesn't work with nmlc.exe, we decided to simply not support pcx 13:32:06 <planetmaker> That's ok (for now), I think. But instead of the readme(.txt) we have index.html 13:32:33 <planetmaker> and along with that the rest of the docs. Which is IMHO fine 13:32:55 <Ammler> docs is no replacement for a readme, you can have both 13:35:09 <Ammler> hmm, maybe it a bit confusing now since there is the windows binary 13:36:00 <Ammler> maybe move the windows binary to a subdirectory? 13:37:21 <planetmaker> why? 13:38:30 <Ammler> because people install python, ply and i 13:38:38 <Ammler> pil and still use the nmlc.exe? 13:38:49 <planetmaker> ah 13:39:24 <Ammler> people do install python and friends or use nmlc.exe 13:39:51 <Ammler> s/do/should/ 13:40:59 <Brot6> nml: update from r1306 to r1307 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/r1307 13:41:38 <planetmaker> Well, I'll mention that in the docs, too, then 13:41:56 <Ammler> would be nice :-) 13:42:27 <Ammler> maybe we should make distro packages already, I thought to wait for 0.1.0 13:42:34 <Ammler> but that can still take time 13:43:23 <Ammler> something like 0.1.beta.rX 13:44:52 <planetmaker> what kind of distro packages? 13:45:02 <planetmaker> rpms and alike? 13:46:04 <planetmaker> http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/nml-language.html <-- updated version. Ok? 13:46:37 <planetmaker> http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/doc_update.diff <-- diff 13:47:50 <planetmaker> unless I hear objections I'll commit that ;-) 13:47:51 <Ammler> planetmaker: yep 13:49:37 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1308:2d97dc4cea07: Doc: Update description wrt pcx support under ... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/2d97dc4cea07 13:53:36 <Ammler> planetmaker: maybe s/the latest (nightly) build/the latest (nightly) source/ 13:55:18 *** Ruudjah has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:55:20 <Ammler> also it is just nmlc.exe which doesn't work with pcx, if you install the other way, you can use pcx 13:55:33 <Ammler> (on windows too) 13:56:17 <planetmaker> hm, right. Well 14:21:51 *** Lakie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:35:52 <Ammler> nml.noarch: W: no-dependency-on python-base 2.7 14:35:53 <Ammler> 2 packages and 0 specfiles checked; 0 errors, 3 warnings. 14:40:07 <Ammler> nml regression test is quite unverbose :-) 14:40:40 <Ammler> needs around 100 times the time to build but no output 14:53:13 <Terkhen> planetmaker: I reported the errors you mention in the NML thread days ago, it seems that the vactrain author likes to do some strange folder magic when building it 15:11:01 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1309:25825e1237a8: Add #2508: Information about properties availa... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/25825e1237a8 15:11:04 <planetmaker> ho, missed that, Terkhen. 15:11:22 <planetmaker> Not sure what he does. IMHO adding one level of folders too much 15:12:49 <Ammler> oh nice 15:12:58 <Ammler> redmine has now row diff 15:14:06 <Ammler> finally the source view is as powerful as the one from trac 15:14:15 <planetmaker> :-) 15:14:15 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature Request #2508 (Feedback): train documentation has nothing about ar... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2508 15:14:16 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature Request #2508 (Feedback): train documentation has nothing about ar... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2508#change-6533 15:17:04 *** Lakie has quit IRC 15:54:14 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:14:54 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:01:10 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:03:50 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #2532 (New): version reported as 'unknown' for windows builds (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2532 17:05:52 * andythenorth is disappearing into a strange world of graphical style obsession 17:10:19 <Brot6> nml: update from r1307 to r1309 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/r1309 17:18:44 <Brot6> firs: update from r1947 to r1953 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r1953 17:19:00 <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r750), 32bpp-extra (r39), ai-admiralai (r75), ai-aroai (r25), ailib-common (r21), ailib-direction (r17), ailib-list (r32), ailib-string (r29), ailib-tile (r16), airportsplus (r73), basecosts (r25), belarusiantowns (r8), bros (r52), chips (r132), comic-houses (r71), fish (r617), frenchtowns (r6), german-townnames (ERROR r24), grfcodec (r828), heqs (r604), indonesiantowns (r41), 17:19:00 <Brot6> manindu (r7), metrotrackset (r56), narvs (r37), newgrf_makefile (r266), nml (r1309), nutracks (r185), ogfx-industries (r12), ogfx-landscape (r58), ogfx-rv (r80), ogfx-trains (r237), ogfx-trees (r42), opengfx (r637), openmsx (r97), opensfx (r97), smts (r19), snowlinemod (r49), spanishtowns (r10), swedishrails (r198), swisstowns (r22), transrapidtrackset (r15), ttdviewer (r26), ttrs (r36), worldairlinersset (r671) 17:19:59 <Brot6> german-townnames: compile of r24 still failed (#2487) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/german-townnames/nightlies/ERROR/r24 17:23:09 <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: airportsplus (Diffsize: 1), belarusiantowns (Diffsize: 30), frenchtowns, indonesiantowns (1 errors) (Diffsize: 1), manindu (Diffsize: 1), narvs, newgrf_makefile, ogfx-industries (Diffsize: 1), ogfx-landscape (Diffsize: 7), ogfx-rv (Diffsize: 7), ogfx-trains, spanishtowns (Diffsize: 1), swedishrails (Diffsize: 7), swisstowns (Diffsize: 156) 17:41:28 *** dihedral has quit IRC 17:42:08 *** dihedral has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:59:12 *** DanMacK has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:56:03 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #2532: version reported as 'unknown' for windows builds (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2532#change-6534 19:32:09 *** DanMacK has quit IRC 19:51:33 *** DanMacK has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:02:07 *** Lakie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:07:24 <DanMacK> Hey Lakei 20:07:28 <DanMacK> *Lakie 20:09:46 <planetmaker> :-D "Lakai" (DE) translates to "minion" (GB) :-P 20:10:03 <planetmaker> and yes, e != a, I know ;-) 20:10:39 <Lakie> Hi DanMacK and planetmaker 20:11:01 <planetmaker> hi :-) 20:11:23 <Lakie> I managed to get a hacked version of makefile working-ish last night. Still needs lots of testing for things like genders, cases and such though. English alcks such apparently, lol 20:11:27 <Lakie> lacks* 20:12:18 <planetmaker> he, yeah 20:14:41 <Lakie> Ah well, atleast its progressing, at albet a slow pace. 20:15:34 <Lakie> I assume leaving options in makefile.config is better than hard coding stuff in makefile.in or makefile_nfo? 20:18:21 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1954:133b385b1217: Change: improved Furniture Factory ap... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/133b385b1217 20:18:35 <planetmaker> usualy yes. Could also be moved to Makefile.def, if it's a common thing which usually is not dependent on the single newgrf 20:18:51 <planetmaker> usually: Makefile.config: this very newgrf 20:19:04 <planetmaker> Makefile.def: general config things not touched by the normal grf coder 20:20:09 <Lakie> Hmm... ok, probably best leave it in makefile.config since it relies on things like NFO_DIr. :) 20:21:59 <planetmaker> hm, then probably yes 20:23:58 <Lakie> Currently I figure it only needs 3 things, source for languages $(LANG_DIR), output directory $(NFO_DIR)/$(LANG_DIR) and at a push output extension for those not keen on lnfo and prefering pnfo and such 20:24:07 <Lakie> Well, 4, addition flags 20:26:11 <planetmaker> hm... why would lang_dir and output_langdir be different from eachother? 20:26:54 <Lakie> lang tends to be in the project root, output for my purposes is in sprites/nfo/lang 20:27:12 <Lakie> includsion is easier I guess than double to triple ../ 20:28:07 <Lakie> It doesn't really matter, I decided it should be a configurable option since not everyone will like it in the same place as I. 20:30:24 <planetmaker> that's true 20:30:37 <Lakie> My makefile.config looks like this currently, http://pastebin.com/E5MnXESA 20:30:38 <planetmaker> your suggestion are the easier dirs 20:31:38 <Lakie> (The -D -N just mutes various empty files which would be created based off the lang)... 20:32:07 <planetmaker> the dep checks will need to be taught about the lang dir / lnfo extension 20:32:42 <Lakie> Thats in my makefile_nfo 20:32:51 <planetmaker> (unrelated to that makefile.config) - just occured to me when seeing lnfo 20:33:01 <Lakie> %.lnfo: $(LANG_DIR)/*.lng $(LANG_DIR)/$(FILE_CUSTOM_TAGS) ... 20:33:27 <planetmaker> that's the dep. But not the dep check ;-) 20:33:44 <planetmaker> though... it might suffice... 20:33:46 <Lakie> Oh, that happens anyway, I have an altered mdep remember? 20:33:55 <planetmaker> Nope, I didn't :-) 20:34:11 <Lakie> So long as it generates the correct path it should work... 20:34:17 <planetmaker> yep 20:34:31 <Lakie> In fact, it might work anyone with just the %.lnfo compared to full path 20:34:32 <Lakie> :) 20:35:14 <Lakie> Quite a few things to test 20:39:00 <Lakie> So long as the include paths are correct, I imagine it'll work even with an unaltered mdep 20:40:44 <Lakie> I'll have an experiment later, for now it seems to work mostly like how I'd like it too. 20:43:19 <planetmaker> well, I'd be happy to give feedback, if I had your implementation somewhere. Though... not today anymore, I guess 20:44:21 <Lakie> Aye, to be far, most of the problems were bugs in the script rather than makefile alterations, heh 20:45:24 <Lakie> Still need some though on how to handle the more static textids, as that'll need some file in the lang dir or some think keeping record of the id=>tag mappings. 20:46:34 <Lakie> Vehicles and dynamics are nice in that sense, getting it wrong won't crash (Open)TTD(Patch) 20:47:52 <planetmaker> hehe :-) Others do? 20:48:15 <Lakie> Pretty sure the static D800 range do? 20:48:36 <Lakie> Don't remember off hand though 20:50:49 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:52:19 * planetmaker doesn't know. But... I know I should sleep. So have a good night and rest of evening :-) 20:52:30 * DanMacK revisits the thought of smaller commodity sizes... 20:53:06 <DanMacK> Kilos instead of tons, etc 20:59:30 <andythenorth> good night 20:59:30 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 21:29:25 *** Lakie has quit IRC 21:47:27 *** ODM has quit IRC 21:54:13 *** DanMacK has quit IRC 22:07:55 *** DJNekkid has quit IRC 22:10:25 *** avdg has quit IRC 22:10:26 *** Hirundo has quit IRC 22:10:27 *** V453000 has quit IRC 22:35:43 *** Webster has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:36:17 *** Brot6 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:36:54 *** Ammler has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:37:25 *** tneo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:37:54 *** SmatZ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:38:54 *** Terkhen has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:39:16 *** XeryusTC has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:39:25 *** V453000 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:39:55 *** Yexo has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:39:55 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:40:55 *** DJNekkid has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:40:55 *** planetmaker has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:23:02 *** supermop has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:42:59 *** LordAro|2 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:47:58 *** LordAro has quit IRC