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00:54:45 *** supermop has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 01:03:42 *** Ruudjah has quit IRC 03:53:29 *** Lakie has quit IRC 04:43:49 *** supermop has quit IRC 06:43:22 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:00:07 *** LordAro has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:08:24 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Revision 17:3ed8de4d4298: Add: Missing credits for graphics (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-industries/repository/revisions/3ed8de4d4298 07:09:15 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Feature #698 (Closed): snowy sprites for oil wells missing (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/698#change-6564 07:35:20 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Revision 18:5d3088b75df7: Add: German translation (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-industries/repository/revisions/5d3088b75df7 07:36:49 <Terkhen> hmm... that's a good idea 07:38:49 <planetmaker> I'd not yet ask around, but, of course, our languages :-) 07:42:39 <planetmaker> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/159/ 07:44:38 <Terkhen> looks good :) 07:45:02 <Terkhen> there is a small mistake on the english chain parameters 07:45:54 <planetmaker> hm? 07:45:55 <Terkhen> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/160/ <--- Disabled will disable sounds a bit stupid, though 07:46:08 <Terkhen> (it was called Not present before and it is still called that way on the description) 07:46:23 <planetmaker> de-activate 07:46:47 <Terkhen> ok :) 07:49:22 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Revision 19:f85753ddac44: Fix: Mention the Disabled option in the chain par... (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-industries/repository/revisions/f85753ddac44 07:51:13 <planetmaker> hm... the forest should pick another tree... at least with OpenGFX+ Trees it looks quite strange 07:52:36 <planetmaker> hm... or maybe an internal parameter would do. 07:52:39 <planetmaker> Possibly easier 07:53:07 <planetmaker> and extensible ;-) 07:53:40 <Terkhen> hmm... automatically deciding which one depending on the loaded NewGRFs or allowing the user to select one? 07:54:33 <planetmaker> For now I only would auto-select another one when OpenGFX+ Trees is present. But it could, of course, also be added a user-parameter which over-rides that. 07:54:47 <planetmaker> But I'm not quite sure whether that's not an overkill in user-control 07:55:06 <planetmaker> We'll have more parameters anyway and it can always be added 07:55:46 <Terkhen> yes, IMO selecting a different tree with OpenGFX+ Trees is enough 07:55:53 <Terkhen> OpenGFX+ sets are meant to be compatible with each other :) 07:56:02 <planetmaker> yep 07:56:16 <Terkhen> I don't know many other tree sets anyways 07:56:35 <planetmaker> there's only stolen trees. I might test with that 07:57:33 <Terkhen> but is that a serious set or just a taster? I don't know the whole story but the name does not make it sound very official 07:58:42 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Revision 20:89831dccea89: Add: Spanish translation. (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-industries/repository/revisions/89831dccea89 08:02:45 <planetmaker> well... it's the only other one. And there's seemingly "NewTrees" which is derived from it with some re-sizing 08:02:52 <planetmaker> But... did it always NOT work in arctic? 08:03:17 <Terkhen> IIRC there is a version that works with arctic and an older one which does not 08:04:11 <planetmaker> and in temperate ogfx+industries then still uses the base set tree. So obviously ogfx+trees was coded differently from stolen trees 08:04:24 <planetmaker> the latter not properly replacing all sprites or doing it differently somehow 08:04:59 <planetmaker> hm... no. actually. ogfx+industries always uses an arctic tree. That'll be it 08:05:19 <planetmaker> only those, of course have snowy and non-snowy versions ;-) 08:05:57 <Terkhen> ok :) 08:31:56 <planetmaker> hmpf.... Not so easy 08:31:58 *** LordAro has quit IRC 08:32:14 <planetmaker> "expected compile-time constant" 08:35:01 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature Request #2546 (New): allow modification of ttdsprite# in a layout ... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2546 08:36:36 <Ammler> planetmaker: the version from our pack si for arctic (stolentrees) 08:36:55 <planetmaker> hm, I guess I have the bananas version 08:37:04 <Ammler> might also better look with the ogfx+trees 08:37:11 <planetmaker> ? 08:37:42 <Ammler> I would switch the trees for the forest like you do for ogfx+trees 08:37:50 <planetmaker> ah 08:39:08 <planetmaker> yes, quite 08:39:08 <Ammler> 4d666f01 2_landscape/stolentrees/testw.grf <-- arctic version 08:39:31 <planetmaker> yep. NewGRF search for stolen trees gives the bananas version. Search for testw that one 08:39:39 <planetmaker> The latter search of course is not obvious ;-) 08:39:44 <Ammler> same id? 08:40:26 <Ammler> I once told SAC, that the bananas versin is bad, she agreed 08:40:42 <Ammler> but never uploaded the newer version 08:41:24 <planetmaker> completely different IDs 08:41:39 <planetmaker> and NewTrees again completely different 08:42:04 <planetmaker> well SAC has the same attitude towards bananas, I guess, as OzTrans as mb ;-) 08:43:11 <Ammler> oztrand has none, he doesn't care, e.q. danmack could upload those 08:43:30 <Ammler> or whoever is coauthor 08:43:53 <Ammler> so you should not just blame him :-P 08:44:56 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:46:15 <planetmaker> oztrans said recently "normally my stuff doens't go to bananas". Which is quite clear http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=942069#p942069 08:46:16 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums View topic - BK Enhanced Tunnel Set v1.2 (9-April-2011) [update] (at www.tt-forums.net) 08:46:59 <planetmaker> and his unwillingness to even have an account with OpenTTD is also expressed explicitly 08:47:00 <Ammler> yes, that means, he doesn't upload 08:47:19 <Ammler> but he also said, that it is ok, if others do 08:47:59 <Ammler> he also had no issues for adding the grfs to the coop pack years ago 08:49:34 <Ammler> it doesn't really matter anymore, enough stuff on bananas :-) 08:50:57 <planetmaker> indeed. But still sad, that they all produce their grfs for the waste bin so-to-speak 08:51:41 <planetmaker> hm... sprite 1709 seems to be a good enough generic tree base for all, default ogfx+trees and stolen trees 08:53:55 <Ammler> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/grfpack/releases/LATEST/md5grfid.list <-- you are aware about that list to find quite fast GRFIDs of our pack _and_ bananas? 08:54:18 <planetmaker> nope :-) 08:54:56 <planetmaker> z_bananas is all bananas stuff? 08:54:58 <Ammler> well, only public available bananas 08:55:15 <Ammler> at the time of release of course 08:55:17 <planetmaker> well, fair enough 08:55:53 <planetmaker> bookmarked ;-) 08:56:24 <Ammler> if you need a newer list, tag grfpack :-P 08:56:33 <planetmaker> :-P 08:56:59 <Ammler> or we enable grfpack nightlies 08:58:02 <planetmaker> hm... might be a good idea. Possibly I even play with that :-P 09:00:17 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Revision 21:3b9ac948aca0: Codechange: Prepare for defining the forest tree ... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-industries/repository/revisions/3b9ac948aca0 09:09:26 <Brot6> #openttdcoop NewGRF package - Revision 275:9d737d766c4a: Change: prepare package to build nightly... (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grfpack/repository/revisions/9d737d766c4a 09:14:31 <Brot6> #openttdcoop NewGRF package - Revision 276:8395f24da2bd: Change: enable nightly builds (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grfpack/repository/revisions/8395f24da2bd 09:18:55 <Ammler> hmm, is windows 7-zip able to unpack xz? 09:19:17 <Ammler> just thinking if we can replace 7z with xz 09:20:30 <Terkhen> yes 09:20:45 <Terkhen> I use it to unzip OpenTTD pdb files 09:31:33 <Brot6> #openttdcoop NewGRF package - Revision 277:1e91a7a038cb: Change: enable .xz and build only that f... (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grfpack/repository/revisions/1e91a7a038cb 09:50:52 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 09:51:58 <dihedral> Ammler: http://www.startssl.com/?app=25#27 09:51:59 <Webster> Title: StartSSL™ Certificates & Public Key Infrastructure (at www.startssl.com) 09:52:24 <dihedral> see the disclaimer 09:52:37 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:54:15 <Ammler> dihedral: not that easy to say for "community domains" :-) 09:54:54 <Ammler> so if you create a cert for openttd.org, it is not necessary created for others :-P 09:55:38 <Ammler> but maybe they do simply compare whois 09:57:10 <dihedral> i am not directly involved ;-) 09:58:42 <dihedral> but i can call and make sure 10:42:56 <dihedral> Ammler, i've mailed startcom regarding a certificate for openttdcoop.org and will let you know if i am allowed to generate that or not ;-) 10:47:38 <Ammler> ok, interesting :-) 10:48:27 <dihedral> interesting? why is that? 10:50:33 <Ammler> oh, well, just looking forward to the answer :-) 10:50:42 <dihedral> hehe - me too :-) 10:50:53 <dihedral> i asked because i do not want to risk my own certs :-P 10:51:07 <dihedral> oh - answer just came in :-) 10:53:09 <Ammler> oh well, we (I) can life with the single domain certs, it would just be comfort :-) 10:54:10 <dihedral> they required more details - i'll let you know again when they answer the next time ;-) 10:56:46 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:41:18 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Revision 22:2d12cc15d51f: Codechange: Separate the tiles of the different i... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-industries/repository/revisions/2d12cc15d51f 12:45:02 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Revision 23:687030c2569b: Codechange: Add GPL header to remaining source files (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-industries/repository/revisions/687030c2569b 12:57:41 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 13:14:01 <Brot6> Unable to connect to http://dev.openttdcoop.org/sys/: undefined method `closed?' for nil:NilClass 13:14:35 <dihedral> ^ ouch? 13:20:27 <Terkhen> r22 is quite nice :) 13:23:59 <Ammler> dihedral: the cert missed a newline on the end, that is why nginx didn't start again 13:24:26 <Ammler> cat openttdcoop.org.crt ../sub.class2.server.ca.pem > openttdcoop.org-bundle.crt 13:26:01 <dihedral> ah :) 13:28:15 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:49:12 <planetmaker> I just had to scroll too much, Terkhen ;-) 13:49:39 <planetmaker> nor will it ever get better or less code, if it wasn't done ;-) 14:02:03 <Terkhen> yes, it was a big mess 14:06:11 <Ammler> thanks to dih, we have now 2 years of peace according to certs, please report if you get any issues with ssl 14:10:09 <planetmaker> http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/index.php?source=ironore_mine.diff <-- not yet tested. But it compiles and afaik 'only' needs adding the real sprites from http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/oremine.png as building sprites 14:10:22 <planetmaker> I guess I shall try that later today 14:11:41 <Ammler> you need adding real sprites, can't you reuse them? 14:12:20 <planetmaker> I need real sprites 14:12:34 <planetmaker> as the mine sprites incorporate the ground 14:12:49 <planetmaker> Thus I need to separate it, thus I need real sprites which are the mine without ground 14:13:10 <planetmaker> look at the png I linked and you'll understand ;-) 14:13:25 <planetmaker> (or just place an iron ore mine in a non-temperate climate) 14:14:38 <andythenorth> you need real sprites 14:14:46 <andythenorth> and the fun code that puts the right ground tile under it 14:14:56 <planetmaker> that's already written ;-) 14:15:00 <planetmaker> in the patch I linked :-P 14:15:07 <planetmaker> much more templating is not possible :-P 14:15:08 <andythenorth> ah ha 14:15:21 * andythenorth back to work 14:15:40 <Terkhen> hmmm... the IRONORE_TILE macro looks like it could be generalized for use in other industries too 14:16:23 <planetmaker> it could 14:17:37 <planetmaker> but actually that's where the building sprite needs replacement by the real sprite 14:18:09 <Terkhen> there are no other industries requiring the same? 14:18:14 <planetmaker> what could be generalised as well is the terrain switch, and construction stage switch 14:18:30 <planetmaker> there are others. The other mines, gold mine, diamond mine 14:18:43 <planetmaker> coal mine only partially. It has actual buildings iirc 14:20:01 <planetmaker> but I'd start to implement them first, to see whether they really are the same :-) 14:20:35 <planetmaker> for example the number of tiles is different - but that, of course, is determined by how often you define the macro 14:21:44 <planetmaker> but... hm... actually a macro which switches between non-snowy default graphics and snowy real sprites will be useful :-) 14:22:04 <planetmaker> hm... right. Also here probably 14:22:17 <planetmaker> snowy grass and no snow on the mine...? Also stupid. 14:34:01 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature Request #2548 (New): Do chimneys look better without coll... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2548 14:41:26 *** Lakie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:47:02 *** Lakie has quit IRC 14:47:25 *** Lakie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:56:22 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature Request #2546: allow modification of ttdsprite# in a layout via pa... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2546#change-6565 15:04:45 <Terkhen> hmm... then is probably better to treat them case by case and generalize later if possible 15:05:20 <planetmaker> that's what I'd do. For now, yes 16:13:26 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:34:38 *** Lakie has quit IRC 17:18:49 <Brot6> grfpack: update from to r277 done (8 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/grfpack/nightlies/r277 17:19:12 <Brot6> ogfx-industries: update from r15 to r23 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-industries/nightlies/r23 17:19:20 <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r750), 32bpp-extra (r39), ai-admiralai (r75), ai-aroai (r32), ailib-common (r21), ailib-direction (r17), ailib-list (r32), ailib-string (r29), ailib-tile (r16), airportsplus (r73), basecosts (r25), belarusiantowns (r8), bros (r52), chips (r134), comic-houses (r71), firs (r1972), fish (r617), frenchtowns (r6), german-townnames (r30), grfcodec (r828), heqs (r604), 17:19:24 <Brot6> indonesiantowns (r41), manindu (r7), metrotrackset (r56), narvs (r37), newgrf_makefile (r266), nml (r1313), nutracks (r185), ogfx-landscape (r59), ogfx-rv (r80), ogfx-trains (r237), ogfx-trees (r42), opengfx (r638), openmsx (r97), opensfx (r97), smts (r19), snowlinemod (r49), spanishtowns (r10), swedishrails (r198), swisstowns (r22), transrapidtrackset (r15), ttdviewer (r26), ttrs (r36), worldairlinersset (r671) 17:27:20 <Ammler> planetmaker: nice feature: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/grfpack/nightlies/r277/log/non-uniq.log 17:27:34 <Ammler> lists all newgrfs which are now on bananas 17:31:51 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 17:39:49 <Brot6> #openttdcoop NewGRF package - Revision 278:0d4676f6cdc4: CS-Sets on Bananananananannas (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grfpack/repository/revisions/0d4676f6cdc4 18:03:57 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:04:55 * dihedral has to think of the minions - banana? 18:08:40 <andythenorth> evening 18:09:04 *** michi_cc has quit IRC 18:11:16 * andythenorth has lots of ideas 18:11:26 <andythenorth> Yexo: are you around for any CHIPS coding today? :) 18:12:06 *** michi_cc has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:35:11 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 135:670d7320b862: Add: file for Concourse tile (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/670d7320b862 18:35:11 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Revision 136:de922d4038f0: Feature: station concourse tile - quite basic (clo... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/chips/repository/revisions/de922d4038f0 18:35:11 <Brot6> CHIPS Station Set - Feature #2494 (Closed): Concourse (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2494#change-6566 18:35:27 * andythenorth flies solo :D 19:53:43 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 19:58:52 <planetmaker> sweet, Ammler :-) 19:59:01 <planetmaker> did you remove those unnecessary ones? 20:00:47 <Yexo> why is andy always gone when I'm back to reply? 20:10:03 <planetmaker> dunno :-( 20:10:20 <planetmaker> Somehow he doesn't want to use a bouncer anymore either. Dunno why. It makes it quite hard sometimes 20:13:48 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:49:23 *** ODM has quit IRC 20:53:10 <planetmaker> http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/snowy_industries.png <-- Terkhen :-) 20:53:38 <Terkhen> that looks nice :) 20:54:01 <planetmaker> it misses all logic to allow that without climate cheat, though ;-) 20:54:09 <planetmaker> (for the iron ore mine that is) 20:54:16 <Terkhen> heh, true 20:54:35 <planetmaker> but that's another commit, I think ;-) 20:55:02 <Terkhen> the biggest problem for doing factory/food chains is that a industry can only accept 3 cargos 20:55:25 <planetmaker> yeah 20:57:22 <Terkhen> then we would need to check ALL conflicting states and decide what to do in these cases 20:57:31 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Revision 24:dec103ff644d: Add: Ground-tile aware iron ore mines (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-industries/repository/revisions/dec103ff644d 20:57:48 <Terkhen> a quite long chain of logical operations :) 20:58:33 <planetmaker> http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/where_the_wood.png <-- hehe. How many forests do you count? 20:59:10 <planetmaker> they blend in terribly well with opengfx+ trees when they're serviced ;-) 21:00:20 <Terkhen> two? 21:00:23 <planetmaker> yep 21:00:44 <planetmaker> Initially I didn't recognize the lower one 21:00:51 <planetmaker> Only when the animation state changed 21:00:59 <planetmaker> i.e. trees grew 21:14:33 <planetmaker> hm, those iron ore sprites are even without grid lines ;-) 21:17:30 <planetmaker> time for a release? 21:17:38 <planetmaker> as taster? 21:22:25 <Terkhen> I think so, yes :) 21:28:00 <planetmaker> will you? shall I? 21:30:16 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Revision 25:a3461496a8bf: Doc: Update changelog (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-industries/repository/revisions/a3461496a8bf 21:31:24 *** DanMacK has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:31:37 <planetmaker> hm, well, I commited 21:31:42 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Revision 26:274550cda47e: Added tag 0.1.0 for changeset a3461496a8bf (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-industries/repository/revisions/274550cda47e 21:32:31 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Bug #2549 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2549 21:32:50 <DanMacK> Hey all 21:33:02 <planetmaker> hi DanMacK :-) 21:33:32 <DanMacK> How goes it? 21:34:06 <Terkhen> sorry, I'm on too many things at once 21:34:36 <Terkhen> great :P 21:35:14 <planetmaker> Ammler: ^^ why did it fail? 21:37:39 <Terkhen> I don't see anything wrong on the logs... except those openSUSE errors, but I remember seeing them in other GRFs and they did not cause a compile failure 21:37:53 <planetmaker> yes... 21:38:08 <planetmaker> I tested locally, also building from the source bundle, and it worked for me. 22:10:20 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:15:50 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 22:20:11 <Terkhen> time for bed... we'll look into this tomorrow 22:20:13 <Terkhen> good night 22:28:15 <DanMacK> query andythenorth 22:29:52 *** Lakie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:33:23 <planetmaker> good night from here, too 22:33:29 <planetmaker> DanMacK: not in IRC ;-) 22:33:39 <Lakie> night planetmaker 23:19:53 <Ammler> + make -j2 bundle_zip bundle_xsrc 'ZIP=7za a' 'ZIP_FLAGS=-tzip -mx9' 23:19:55 <Ammler> error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.EOz5IT (%build) 23:19:59 <Ammler> planetmaker: stupid me 23:20:07 <Ammler> I changed to xz 23:22:45 <Brot6> ogfx-industries: update from to 0.1.0 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-industries/releases/0.1.0 23:24:03 *** supermop has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:29:06 <Brot6> ogfx-industries: update from 0.1.0 to 0.1.0 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-industries/releases/0.1.0 23:34:23 <Ammler> the makefile is broken 23:34:33 <Ammler> readme.txt is not compiled 23:34:41 <Ammler> also no md5, check log file 23:50:18 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Bug #2549 (Confirmed): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2549 23:50:18 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Bug #2549: DevZone compile failed (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2549#change-6567 23:50:18 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Bug #2549 (Confirmed): DevZone compile failed (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2549#change-6568