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03:46:04 *** supermop has quit IRC 04:36:14 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Bug #2554 (New): Payment rates are out of proportion (Sylf) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2554 04:44:26 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Feature Request #2555 (New): Disable this grf automatically in toyland climate (Sylf) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2555 05:27:39 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Bug #2556 (New): Oil rigs have no dock nor heliport anymore (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2556 05:30:02 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Bug #2557 (New): oil rigs are not generated automatically (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2557 05:31:04 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Bug #2558 (New): Ground tile of oil wells in tropic (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2558 05:38:19 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Feature #2409 (Rejected): Allow farms above the snow line (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2409#change-6579 05:40:56 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Feature Request #2555 (Closed): Disable this grf automatically in toyland c... (Sylf) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2555 05:40:56 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Revision 32:9a4438d076ee: Fix #2555: Currently toyland climate is not suppo... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-industries/repository/revisions/9a4438d076ee 05:40:56 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Feature Request #2555 (Closed): Disable this grf automatically in toyland c... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2555#change-6580 05:47:23 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Revision 33:949f5f02bac5: Fix #2552: Bundle readme.txt instead of readme.ptxt (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-industries/repository/revisions/949f5f02bac5 05:47:23 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Bug #2552 (Closed): readme.txt not compiled (for releases at least) (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2552#change-6581 05:48:31 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Bug #2549 (Closed): DevZone compile failed (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2549#change-6582 06:03:35 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Revision 34:c59144fc8277: Change: Make the meaning of 'coastal distance 0' ... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-industries/repository/revisions/c59144fc8277 06:16:42 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:42:11 <Terkhen> you have been active today :) 06:46:06 <planetmaker> not really. It looks like much ;-) 06:47:04 <V453000> pm: I tried some stuff with opengfx+ industries yesterday and I enabled banks in tropic and it made some <undefined string> or something like that cargo 06:47:55 <planetmaker> bad :-( 06:47:57 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Bug #2557: oil rigs are not generated automatically (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2557#change-6583 06:48:04 <Terkhen> planetmaker: these oil rig bugs are present before or after the "disable oil rig restrictions" commit? 06:48:13 <planetmaker> Terkhen: head 06:48:52 <planetmaker> I tested with r33, and they have no stations and are not generated automatically. The latter is understandable as it's set to 0 for some reason 06:49:30 <Terkhen> err... the code being used before that diff is applied is a huge mess, yes 06:49:53 <planetmaker> I attached a tentative start for a fix. But I'll be off for the rest of the day quite soon 06:50:16 <Terkhen> INDUSTRYTYPE_OIL_RIG <--- when were these constants introduced? it will be better to change them all in a single commit 06:50:23 <planetmaker> ages ago ;-) 06:50:30 <planetmaker> see appendix of NML 06:50:34 <Terkhen> hmm... okay 06:50:55 <Terkhen> I can't work on it right now, but I'll take a look at these later 06:51:03 <planetmaker> but that's IMHO no big issue using them or not 06:51:09 <planetmaker> the names themselves are clear 06:51:19 <planetmaker> no rush, no worries :-) 06:52:04 <Terkhen> V453000: do you mind making a bug report specifying your parameters? I used tropic as test climate for the valuables chain so it must be some case I forgot to check 06:53:35 <V453000> hold on :) 06:55:02 <planetmaker> hm... I got no banks in tropic when I select valuables chain 06:55:16 <V453000> I selected both iirc 06:55:29 <planetmaker> that works for me 06:55:34 <V453000> eh, no I had diamonds and gold 06:56:03 <planetmaker> V453000: any other newgrfs maybe interfering? 06:57:00 <V453000> dont know :( but it works now 06:57:06 <V453000> probably some interference 06:57:33 <planetmaker> hmm.... ttrs? 06:57:44 <planetmaker> that's not checked and can wreak havok, I guess 06:57:50 <V453000> no, stations name from industries 06:57:53 <V453000> that breaks it 06:57:56 <V453000> no wonder ... 06:58:04 <Terkhen> heh :) 06:58:05 <V453000> I noobed up \o/ 06:58:22 <Terkhen> you can turn the task into a feature request for station names then :P 06:58:45 <V453000> stations names changes some industries, and it is for example incompatible with FIRS 06:58:54 <V453000> so I suppose that is quite an expected behavior :) 06:59:30 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Code Review #2559 (New): check compatibility with TTRS (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2559 07:00:00 <planetmaker> V453000: yes, it's incompatible with FIRS. The trunk version of ogfx+industries disables itself in its presence 07:00:11 <planetmaker> I guess... the bananas version already is quite outdated :-P 07:00:18 <planetmaker> but uploading it at least motivated me :-P 07:00:21 <Terkhen> :) 07:00:24 <V453000> :) 07:00:46 <Terkhen> me too, I prefer to release frequently 07:01:00 <planetmaker> :-) 07:01:36 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:01:58 <planetmaker> Terkhen: I wonder whether we should try to fix the oil rig issue and call it a next release ;-) Much changed 07:02:56 <planetmaker> and I wonder which version it'll be: 0.1.1, 0.1.5 or 0.2.0 ;-) 07:04:01 <V453000> 300! 07:04:45 <V453000> would be the first newgrf to have a sparta release ;) 07:06:51 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Bug #2560 (New): No banks generated with 'valuable' cargo in tropical climate (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2560 07:07:32 <Terkhen> planetmaker: IMO we should fix all of those bugs (the payment rates bug bothers me, I copied them from the specs), implement a few more things (like finishing the custom chains) and release 0.2.0 07:08:07 <Terkhen> if the logic I coded yesterday works, it is just a matter of adding parameters and testing them 07:08:10 <planetmaker> good that we agree :-) That's my preferred way, too 07:08:28 <Terkhen> I will probably finish it either today or tomorrow 07:09:58 <planetmaker> I haven't looked at the payment thing at all, so far. I fear it is a pit of worms :-( 07:10:30 <planetmaker> (or however that figure of speach goes in English ;-) ) 07:10:36 <planetmaker> *speech 07:13:25 *** Ruudjah has quit IRC 07:14:04 <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2092 <-- I tend to reject that issue, Terkhen 07:14:07 <andythenorth> can of worms ;) 07:14:34 <planetmaker> in German it's "Schlangengrube" - which translates to "pit of snakes" ;-) 07:14:52 <planetmaker> but thanks 07:16:55 <planetmaker> Terkhen: any idea why the random generation chance for banks is 0 for valuable chain (explicitly set so)? 07:23:14 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Bug #2560 (Closed): No banks generated with 'valuable' cargo in tropical cl... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2560 07:23:14 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Revision 35:fa900d164ce7: Fix #2560: Also allow random generation of banks ... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-industries/repository/revisions/fa900d164ce7 07:23:14 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Bug #2560 (Closed): No banks generated with 'valuable' cargo in tropical cl... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2560#change-6584 07:34:14 <Terkhen> about the issue: I left it open in case Ammler wanted to add anything else 07:35:12 <Terkhen> hmm... about the banks; valuables banks should not be generated in map generation 07:35:33 <Terkhen> prob_in_game: 7 should be enough for making them appear in big cities after some time 07:36:51 <Terkhen> the random map probability of temperate banks is 0 too 07:38:36 <planetmaker> hm... sorry, changed prob. just to 3. Are they really not generated? I always had a few banks upon start, I think 07:38:50 <Terkhen> not in temperate :) 07:38:53 <planetmaker> I should have awaited your response :-( 07:39:12 <Terkhen> don't worry :) 07:39:21 <Terkhen> can't you rollback the last push somehow? 07:39:42 <planetmaker> it's pushed to the server. Also... what about valuable banks in tropical climate? 07:39:50 <planetmaker> I guess we need some more thought about that 07:40:04 <planetmaker> (besides I find it somewhat stupid to not generate any bank initially) 07:40:17 <planetmaker> does the same hold for oil rigs? 07:40:49 <Terkhen> yes 07:41:09 <planetmaker> hm... interesting. 07:41:22 <Terkhen> hmm... 07:41:29 <Terkhen> and temperate oil wells in-game probability is zero too 07:41:32 <planetmaker> hm... interesting. But I could swear it's no so. 07:41:40 <Terkhen> oh right, I took care of that in the oil wells patch 07:42:09 <Terkhen> planetmaker: temperate banks and oil rigs always appear over time for me 07:42:19 <Terkhen> but I think that oil rigs appear during map generation for FIRS 07:42:54 <planetmaker> hm... yes, you're right. I guess I never noticed this limitation with default industries 07:43:00 <Terkhen> the "disable limitations" parameters of oil rigs could also set the random map generation probability to something different than zero 07:43:17 <Terkhen> and we could add a similar parameter to temperate banks (appear in all towns, apear during random map generation) 07:43:21 <Terkhen> s/temperate/valuables/ 07:43:25 <planetmaker> good idea 07:43:54 <planetmaker> anyway. got to go now. Middle age festival waiting for me today :-) 07:43:54 <Terkhen> hmm... I'm not sure if removing the population limit is a good idea for banks, with that big probability you would get a bank in every town in no time 07:43:59 <planetmaker> See you much later or tomorrow :-) 07:44:07 <Terkhen> ok planetmaker, enjoy :) 07:44:12 <planetmaker> population limit is fine 07:46:13 <andythenorth> Terkhen: you need the new version of var 68 07:46:27 <andythenorth> it doesn't exist yet :( 07:46:42 <andythenorth> 'count of industries per town' 07:47:38 <Terkhen> hmm... that would be nice to have for industries like the water tower, but it is not a must IMO 07:48:52 <andythenorth> oh :( 07:49:08 <andythenorth> it's probably a must for next version of FIRS 07:49:18 <Terkhen> for what industry? 07:49:34 <andythenorth> recycling depot 07:49:42 <Terkhen> hmm... yes, that makes sense 07:49:47 <andythenorth> production is based on population 07:49:54 <andythenorth> two in a town is nonsense 08:23:37 <Terkhen> hmm... it seems that I did not see a change to the price_factor property 08:27:18 *** ODM has quit IRC 08:32:42 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Bug #2554 (Closed): Payment rates are out of proportion (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2554#change-6585 08:32:42 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Revision 36:187e9f82fb89: Fix #2554: Convert price factors to the right units. (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-industries/repository/revisions/187e9f82fb89 08:41:17 <Terkhen> hmm... I can't find how to make a industry have a port/helicopter pad on the specs 08:50:13 <Terkhen> heh... the only way is to use an unmodified tile 18? 09:01:13 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Bug #2556 (Closed): Oil rigs have no dock nor heliport anymore (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2556#change-6586 09:01:13 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Revision 37:c5d358913d60: Fix #2556: Oil Rigs did not have heliports nor do... (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-industries/repository/revisions/c5d358913d60 09:01:13 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Revision 38:d465cc18b6db: Fix: Oil Rigs did not produce and accept Passenge... (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-industries/repository/revisions/d465cc18b6db 09:04:01 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Revision 39:652913f2be0c: Feature: Disabling building limits for Oil Rigs a... (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-industries/repository/revisions/652913f2be0c 09:09:35 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Bug #2557 (Closed): oil rigs are not generated automatically (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2557#change-6587 09:09:35 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Revision 40:48fceb760beb: Feature: Parameter for disabling Valuables Bank b... (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-industries/repository/revisions/48fceb760beb 09:23:35 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 09:24:58 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:56:46 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:03:00 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 10:24:28 <Terkhen> is there a limit to the number of nested if/elses in NML? 10:53:08 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:42:26 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1977:4c7a26919199: Change: work in progress to improve T... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/4c7a26919199 12:31:01 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 12:31:02 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:52:09 <Yexo> Terkhen: no hardcoded limit, but you'll probably run out of free parameters along the way 14:02:12 *** LordAro|2 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:03:03 *** LordAro is now known as Guest2956 14:03:03 *** LordAro|2 is now known as LordAro 14:06:53 <LordAro> Ammler: back to 32bpp-extra errors... 14:08:54 <Brot6> 32bpp-extra - Feature #2097 (Closed): signal sprites (LordAro) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2097#change-6588 14:09:04 <LordAro> the 'first' error ('devzone') seems to talk about missing files to copy - is this due to this file? - http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/32bpp-extra/repository/revisions/ccfb8f4b8b39/entry/.devzone/build/files 14:10:16 <Brot6> 32bpp-extra - Feature #2190 (Resolved): extra sprites diff (LordAro) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2190#change-6589 14:10:16 <Brot6> 32bpp-extra - Feature #2190 (Closed): extra sprites diff (LordAro) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2190#change-6590 14:11:42 <LordAro> and the second error (http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/32bpp-extra/nightlies/LATEST/log/32bpp-extra-r40-build.err.log), i have no clue about... help? 14:12:35 <V453000> planetmaker: isnt it weird that grain has much higher payment rate than goods with ogfx+ industries? 14:13:02 <V453000> iron ore and wood seems to be barely any profit 14:17:22 <V453000> uhmm, the graph lies, iron ore actually is one hell of profittable 14:19:56 <V453000> :D ok that is very broken 14:25:19 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Bug #2561 (New): Cargo payment rates (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2561 14:28:15 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Feature Request #2562 (New): Ground aware "stranger" industries (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2562 14:32:31 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Feature Request #2563 (New): Increasing temperate oil wells (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2563 16:54:04 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1978:adb3732d3571: Change: improved Textil Mill appearance (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/adb3732d3571 16:57:00 *** LordAro|2 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:02:26 *** LordAro has quit IRC 17:09:59 <Brot6> nml: update from r1313 to r1316 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/r1316 17:24:37 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #2564 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2564 17:26:05 <andythenorth> Ammler: what did I do? 17:26:44 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:27:27 <Brot6> ogfx-industries: update from r30 to r40 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-industries/nightlies/r40 17:27:34 <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r750), 32bpp-extra (r40), ai-admiralai (r75), ai-aroai (r32), ailib-common (r21), ailib-direction (r17), ailib-list (r32), ailib-string (r29), ailib-tile (r16), airportsplus (r73), basecosts (r25), belarusiantowns (r8), bros (r52), chips (r136), comic-houses (r71), fish (r617), frenchtowns (r6), german-townnames (r30), grfcodec (r828), grfpack (r279), heqs (r604), 17:27:34 <Brot6> indonesiantowns (r41), manindu (r7), metrotrackset (r56), narvs (r37), newgrf_makefile (r266), nml (r1316), nutracks (r185), ogfx-landscape (r60), ogfx-rv (r80), ogfx-trains (r237), ogfx-trees (r42), opengfx (r640), openmsx (r97), opensfx (r97), smts (r19), snowlinemod (r49), spanishtowns (r10), swedishrails (r198), swisstowns (r22), transrapidtrackset (r15), ttdviewer (r26), ttrs (r36), worldairlinersset (r671) 17:32:45 <Brot6> French Town Names - Bug #2565 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2565 17:38:46 <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: airportsplus (Diffsize: 1), belarusiantowns (Diffsize: 30), german-townnames, indonesiantowns (1 errors) (Diffsize: 1), manindu (Diffsize: 1), narvs, newgrf_makefile, ogfx-landscape, ogfx-rv (Diffsize: 7), ogfx-trains, spanishtowns (Diffsize: 1), swedishrails (Diffsize: 7), swisstowns (Diffsize: 156) 17:42:11 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 17:43:12 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:50:44 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1979:68c5285ec51f: Change: futher improve appearance of ... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/68c5285ec51f 17:51:54 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 17:52:06 <Brot6> firs: update from r1975 to r1979 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r1979 17:52:55 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:56:53 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #2541 (Closed): Remove largest textile mill layout (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2541#change-6591 18:00:38 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 18:01:38 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:12:42 <Terkhen> Yexo: thanks, I was getting quite strange results with a long if/else chain; I'll see how to code it differently 18:13:12 <Terkhen> V453000: there was a bug with payment rates, it is fixed today's nightly 18:15:21 <Terkhen> V453000: #2563 is already implemented in the nightlies, by setting "Disable oil wells restrictions" 18:15:22 <Brot6> Terkhen: V453000: #2563 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/2563 "OpenGFX+ Industries - Feature Request #2563: Increasing temperate oil wells - #openttdcoop Development Zone" 18:16:56 <V453000> :) 18:17:35 <V453000> it just isnt written there so one doesnt know what it really does 18:18:02 <Terkhen> yes... it does not fit with the parameter much 18:18:12 <Terkhen> the parameter is even called building restrictions :P 18:18:36 <Terkhen> if deemed useful it could be split to a different parameter 18:24:41 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 18:27:24 <Hirundo> Yexo: Emitting a warning on param[N] with N>63 is harder than I thought 18:29:10 <Hirundo> Various special parameters (misc grf bits, patch vars) are compiled to what is essentially invalid NML 18:39:32 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 1980:6abbc931f5d6: Change: further improve appearance of... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/6abbc931f5d6 19:06:16 *** LordAro|2 is now known as LordAro 19:08:23 <LordAro> Ammler/anyone else who can help with the errors with 32bpp-extra not here? 19:08:48 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1317:309a7d4a01df: Feature: allow assigning values to arbitrary i... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/309a7d4a01df 19:09:33 <Yexo> planetmaker: r1317 allows the following syntax: "foo = 3; bar = foo*2;" 19:10:08 <Yexo> I think that'll allow you to remove all "#define something param[x]" lines from ogfx+ while it should continue working 19:54:07 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #2532 (Confirmed): version reported as 'unknown' for windows builds (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2532#change-6592 19:55:08 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1318:149f29474887: Fix #2532: nml version reported as unknown for... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/149f29474887 19:55:08 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #2532 (Closed): version reported as 'unknown' for windows builds (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2532#change-6593 19:55:42 <Yexo> Ammler: sorry for the assignment, only after I assigned it to you I figured out I could fix it myself 20:01:50 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature #2544: rpm (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2544#change-6594 20:32:32 *** Ruudjah has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:26:26 *** ODM has quit IRC 21:26:55 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone