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04:51:07 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Bug #2700 (Closed): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2700 04:51:07 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Bug #2700 (Closed): DevZone compile failed (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2700#change-6784 04:54:16 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Code Review #2685: english.lng remarks (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2685#change-6785 05:42:10 <planetmaker> Terkhen: weren't all instances of #2685 fixed yesterday? 05:42:10 <Brot6> planetmaker: Terkhen: #2685 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/2685 "OpenGFX+ Industries - Code Review #2685: english.lng remarks - #openttdcoop Development Zone" 05:42:40 <Terkhen> yes, but I left it open in case Alberth wants to comment something about the new english.lng 05:42:44 <Terkhen> and good morning :) 05:43:20 <planetmaker> ah, you could have set the status to "feedback" ;-) 05:43:48 <planetmaker> that's what I do in cases where I consider it solved but want *someone* to be able to still comment with the option to disagree with me 05:44:04 <planetmaker> (and when I commited my solution already) 05:44:15 <Terkhen> good idea, I wasn't aware of that status :) 05:44:38 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Code Review #2685 (Feedback): english.lng remarks (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2685#change-6786 05:44:47 <planetmaker> not that it matters much really, but yes :-) 05:45:52 <Terkhen> there are many bugfixes and only a new feature, and given that it prevents having many town industries in small towns I'm inclined to call this 0.3.4 05:46:42 <Terkhen> it is a feature in the sense that it adds something that wasn't there before, but it is really a fix :P 05:50:17 <planetmaker> yes, very fine with me 05:51:38 <Terkhen> ok :) 05:51:53 <Terkhen> later I'll check the spanish translation, commit the dutch translation and release 05:52:25 <Terkhen> are you sure you don't want to check the german translation? this could wait until you have time 05:53:56 <planetmaker> that most probably will mean it's not done by tomorrow 05:55:26 <planetmaker> I even fear I might not have as much time tomorrow as I hoped I would 05:55:54 <planetmaker> :-( 05:58:44 <Terkhen> don't worry, rl always gets in the way :P 05:59:01 <Terkhen> then there is no reason to hurry this; I'll leave everything ready except the tagging until you have time for updating the translation :) 06:03:31 <planetmaker> hm, I guess I can take the time now during breakfast 06:03:49 <planetmaker> the English is now up to date, right? 06:07:51 <Terkhen> yes, but as I said there is no need to hurry :P 06:10:03 <planetmaker> Hm, most parts already are like the English translation is now it seems ;-) 06:12:07 <Terkhen> yes, my guess is that we already filtered the most strange stuff while translating 06:12:21 <Terkhen> I do have "Valuables chain" in spanish, though 06:13:00 <planetmaker> that's the most 'serious' change I did. valuables -> banks 06:15:47 <Terkhen> oh, also the placement restriction parameters where changed from "what was the default situation" to "what does this parameter change" 06:20:00 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Revision 113:86907cc2ff27: Change: Update German translation (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-industries/repository/revisions/86907cc2ff27 06:20:05 <planetmaker> deed done ;-) 06:20:07 <Terkhen> thanks :) 06:21:14 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:21:46 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Bug #2701 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2701 06:22:10 <planetmaker> why does it fail? 06:22:37 <Terkhen> nml bug 06:22:43 <planetmaker> right, I see 06:22:46 <Terkhen> but IIRC it was fixed already 06:22:47 <andythenorth> mornings 06:22:52 <planetmaker> I recall reading 'fixed'. yes 06:22:54 <Terkhen> good morning andythenorth 06:22:57 <planetmaker> hi andythenorth 06:23:10 <Terkhen> yes, yx commented on the first devzone compile failed bug 06:23:27 <Terkhen> I suppose that nml still has not been rebuilt 06:23:38 <Terkhen> but yesterday it built fine on my computer 06:41:53 <planetmaker> Maybe Ammler can re-trigger NML before that for a release ;-) - I currently don't recall that command... 06:41:59 <planetmaker> have a good day :-) 06:42:40 <Terkhen> planetmaker: enjoy 07:06:20 <andythenorth> Terkhen: would you like a diversion into bananas? 07:07:11 <Terkhen> depends on the kind of diversion; mind that I have never coded anything web based except toy examples :P 07:12:59 <Terkhen> are you thinking on a complete rewrite? 07:17:02 <andythenorth> Terkhen: yes, but by looking at the existing code a lot 07:17:14 <andythenorth> not from a blank slate 07:17:29 <andythenorth> possibly even reusing some of the code 07:17:37 <Terkhen> I followed your conversation with TB, but it's still not clear to me why it needs a rewrite 07:17:41 <andythenorth> me neither 07:18:18 <andythenorth> but I have to learn pyramid anyway, and this is more interesting than following the tutorial 07:18:35 <andythenorth> and TB is quite definite about it 07:24:49 <Terkhen> what is pyramid? 07:25:22 <Terkhen> shouldn't it be coded in something widely used so it can be supported more easily? 07:27:38 <andythenorth> well I suggested that, but truebrain ruled it out :) 07:41:41 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:43:46 <Rubidium> andythenorth: setting up django is *so* bad that the only way for me to do any kind of debugging is enabling debugging on the *live* site and restarting that 07:44:12 <andythenorth> out of interest, what's so bad about it? 07:44:51 <Rubidium> IMO the undebugability 07:45:13 <andythenorth> you can't run it in foreground and watch the errors? 07:45:17 <andythenorth> (if that makes sense) 07:45:48 <Rubidium> I can run it as a separate thing, but... then for some reason authentication fails horridly 07:46:13 <Rubidium> so I can never get to the state I am actually logged into the bananas that is running in debug mode 07:48:40 <andythenorth> oh 07:49:01 <andythenorth> for a sane python framework this is how it ought to work: http://tt-foundry.com/misc/bananas2-maybe 07:52:05 <andythenorth> I'll go read how pyramid handles debugging 07:52:25 <andythenorth> I am only familiar with that in zope, which is excessively good at it 07:55:31 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Revision 114:f1da8d8a4ca4: Change: Update Spanish translation. (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-industries/repository/revisions/f1da8d8a4ca4 07:55:31 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Revision 115:22b8fb54dd89: Add #2686: Dutch translation (Alberth) (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-industries/repository/revisions/22b8fb54dd89 07:55:41 <Brot6> ogfx-industries: compile of r115 still failed (#2701) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-industries/nightlies/ERROR/r115 07:57:07 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Patch #2686 (Closed): dutch.lng addition (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2686#change-6787 08:03:58 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Revision 116:f87a01e512e3: Doc: Update changelog. (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-industries/repository/revisions/f87a01e512e3 08:04:45 <Brot6> ogfx-industries: compile of r116 still failed (#2701) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-industries/nightlies/ERROR/r116 08:45:21 <Brot6> GRFCodec - Revision 830:3f4c1e563aaa: Fix #2339 -ish: Disable warning 209 when checking action 0 ... (frosch) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grfcodec/repository/revisions/3f4c1e563aaa 10:15:17 <frosch123> plan b: if you did not implement what you speced before, change the specs :) 10:28:36 <Hirundo> Yexo: present? 10:28:41 <Yexo> yes 10:28:45 <Yexo> but only for another hour or so 10:29:44 <Hirundo> You need to add me to the readme, right? 10:30:01 <Yexo> yes, see http://devs.openttd.org/~yexo/readme.txt 10:31:53 * Hirundo reads 10:32:42 <Hirundo> I would add an explicit reference to the docs somewhere 10:33:40 <Yexo> like this? (in about) 10:33:56 <Hirundo> and add me as Jasper Reichardt 10:34:12 <Yexo> I'm sure more improvements can be done, I just wanted something for the first release 10:34:34 <Hirundo> sure, rest looks very nice 10:34:48 <Yexo> is there anything that should block 0.1.0? 10:35:05 <Hirundo> A reference to the forum topic might be nice, there's quite some help/information to be found there 10:35:13 <Hirundo> Although no-one ever reads the readme anyway 10:35:59 <Hirundo> Only http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2657 blocks the release IMO, but that's a catch 22 ;) 10:36:53 <Yexo> than I'll go right ahead and tag 0.1.0 now 10:36:53 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1369:865a5da51403: Doc: add readme.txt (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/865a5da51403 10:36:53 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #2657 (Closed): write readme.txt (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2657#change-6788 10:38:16 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1370:574227dcfd94: Added tag 0.1.0 for changeset 865a5da51403 (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/574227dcfd94 10:40:10 <Terkhen> :) 10:40:40 <frosch123> what's "optimized nml"? 10:41:04 <Yexo> s/3+3/6/ 10:41:22 <Yexo> all expressions simplified as much as possible 10:41:43 <Yexo> although that needs a discussions, since that also means a lot of variable names are removed from the output 10:42:08 <frosch123> is it a debug feature, or is that some other usecase? 10:42:30 <Yexo> it's a prerequisite for the grf2nml converter 10:43:24 <Yexo> and the output is in some cases more readable than nml files generated with a lot of preprocessor magic 10:43:32 <Yexo> since that tends to generate _very_ long lines 10:43:55 <frosch123> :) 10:49:55 <Yexo> Ammler: I think nml is not configured to build releases when a tag is pushed 10:49:59 <Yexo> could you please fix that? 10:50:26 <Yexo> I'm very soon gone for the rest of the day, so if possible don't wait for a reaction from me until tomorrow ;) 11:35:34 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 12:06:26 <Ammler> Yexo: oh, nml 0.1.0 :-o 12:08:31 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:09:17 <Ammler> devzone is btw. at redmine 1.2 and has private tickets, do we use that? 12:18:54 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1371:e6ed9af9b7ba: Change: enable release building (Ammler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/e6ed9af9b7ba 12:21:52 <Brot6> nml: update from to 0.1.0 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/releases/0.1.0 12:22:15 <Ammler> Yexo: ^ 12:25:36 <Terkhen> Ammler: will that version be used for compiling opengfx+ industries? I was waiting for a working version of nml to release opengfx+ industries :) 12:25:55 <Ammler> Terkhen: not per default 12:26:04 <Ammler> I could trigger it, thought 12:26:39 <Ammler> Terkhen: 1min 12:29:10 <Brot6> nml: update from r1366 to r1371 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/r1371 12:29:27 <Ammler> Terkhen: now ^ 12:32:14 <Ammler> well, if you want the specific nml release 0.1.0, it would need config change in your .devzone 12:36:27 <Ammler> but then you need release from nml for every change 12:36:46 <Ammler> it might be recommend to have most releases not using nml nightly anymore 12:39:46 <Hirundo> How is this handled for grfcodec? 12:42:12 <Rubidium> iirc a new grfcodec version triggers all stuff depending on grfcodec to recompile (as regression test) 12:42:53 <Ammler> Hirundo: per default the requires file uses nightlies, but could be configured to use releases 12:43:43 <Hirundo> I'd argue for the same for NML, use nightly unless configured to use release 12:43:51 <Ammler> we use our packages as a kind of test that was the reason to use nightlies 12:44:10 <Ammler> Hirundo: yes, that is default 12:44:30 <Ammler> it would need change either default to release or repos can change it individually 12:44:53 <Ammler> if someone ever complains about wrong devzone tickets to his ticket, he can switch to releases, I would say 12:51:16 <Terkhen> Ammler: I don't mind the specific nml version, it's just that the previous one failed 12:51:19 <Terkhen> thank you :) 12:54:29 <Ammler> yuw 12:54:34 <Ammler> a 13:29:59 *** OwenS has quit IRC 13:30:42 *** OwenS has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:17:38 *** Doorslammer has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:58:15 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest3385 14:58:16 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:06:34 *** Lakie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:07:25 *** Doorslammer has quit IRC 17:08:26 <Brot6> grfcodec: update from r829 to r830 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/grfcodec/nightlies/r830 17:18:36 <Brot6> fish: update from r651 to r653 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/fish/nightlies/r653 17:18:54 <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r750), 32bpp-extra (r40), ai-admiralai (r75), ai-aroai (r39), ailib-common (r21), ailib-direction (r17), ailib-list (r32), ailib-string (r29), ailib-tile (r16), airportsplus (r93), basecosts (r25), belarusiantowns (r8), bros (r52), chips (r141), comic-houses (r71), firs (r1996), frenchtowns (r6), german-townnames (r34), grfcodec (r830), grfpack (r279), heqs (r605), 17:18:54 <Brot6> indonesiantowns (r41), manindu (r7), metrotrackset (r56), narvs (r37), newgrf_makefile (ERROR r293), nml (r1371), nutracks (r201), ogfx-industries (ERROR r116), ogfx-landscape (r69), ogfx-rv (r107), ogfx-trains (r241), ogfx-trees (r49), opengfx (r673), openmsx (r97), opensfx (r97), smts (r19), snowlinemod (r49), spanishtowns (r10), sub-landscape (ERROR r66), sub-opengfx (ERROR r666), swedishrails (r202), swisstowns (r22), 17:18:56 <Brot6> transrapidtrackset (r15), ttdviewer (r34), ttrs (r36), worldairlinersset (r672) 17:23:17 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 17:26:28 <Brot6> newgrf_makefile: compile of r293 still failed (#2656) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/newgrf_makefile/nightlies/ERROR/r293 17:27:36 <Brot6> ogfx-industries: update from r111 to r116 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-industries/nightlies/r116 17:33:04 <Brot6> sub-landscape: compile of r66 still failed (#2616) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/sub-landscape/nightlies/ERROR/r66 17:33:53 <Brot6> sub-opengfx: compile of r666 still failed (#2586) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/sub-opengfx/nightlies/ERROR/r666 17:36:42 <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: 2cctrainset (6 errors), 32bpp-extra (2 errors), airportsplus (Diffsize: 12), basecosts, belarusiantowns (Diffsize: 30), bros (1 errors), chips (1 errors), comic-houses (3 errors) (Diffsize: 22), firs, frenchtowns, german-townnames, heqs, indonesiantowns (1 errors) (Diffsize: 1), manindu (Diffsize: 1), metrotrackset (Diffsize: 1), narvs, nutracks, 17:36:42 <Brot6> ogfx-landscape (Diffsize: 21), ogfx-rv, ogfx-trains (Diffsize: 813), ogfx-trees, opengfx (Diffsize: 7), smts (Diffsize: 8), snowlinemod, spanishtowns (Diffsize: 1), swedishrails (Diffsize: 385), swisstowns, transrapidtrackset (Diffsize: 12), ttrs (7 errors) (Diffsize: 1324), worldairlinersset 18:06:24 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:13:31 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 18:48:20 <Brot6> ogfx-industries: update from 0.3.3 to 0.3.4 done - 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