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02:08:56 <Brot6> Nutracks - Feature #2711 (Assigned): New fence sprites (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2711 02:11:48 <Brot6> Nutracks - Feature #2712 (Assigned): New depot sprites (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2712 02:12:32 <Brot6> Nutracks - Feature #2713 (New): Snow and desert sprites (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2713 02:14:09 <Brot6> Nutracks - Feature #2714 (Assigned): Add more parameter options (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2714 02:15:41 <Brot6> Nutracks - Bug #2715 (Assigned): Lighten edges of ballast (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2715 02:16:48 <Brot6> Nutracks - Feature #2716 (New): Add translations (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2716 02:18:31 <Brot6> Nutracks - Bug #2566 (Rejected): High speed track graphics (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2566#change-6803 05:10:46 <Brot6> Russian Towns - Feature #2717 (New): More town names! (Tloo-ZaRaZa) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2717 05:17:13 <Brot6> Nutracks - Feature #2716: Add translations (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2716#change-6804 06:04:34 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:21:09 <Terkhen> meh, I forgot the page where I found updated data from all towns in the world 07:27:56 <Terkhen> ah, found it :) 07:47:27 <Brot6> Russian Towns - Feature #2717: More town names! (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2717#change-6805 08:20:15 *** ODM has quit IRC 09:28:23 <Brot6> Russian Towns - Feature #2717: More town names! (Tloo-ZaRaZa) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2717#change-6806 09:31:00 *** Tloo-ZaRaZa has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:31:14 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> hello everyone! ) 09:48:24 *** Tloo-ZaRaZa has quit IRC 10:06:27 *** Tloo-ZaRaZa has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:12:14 <Terkhen> hi Tloo-ZaRaZa 10:13:16 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> hey! Terkhen 10:14:22 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> Terkhen: I'm dissecting file i've downloaded from site you gave 10:14:31 <Terkhen> ok :) 10:14:44 <Terkhen> I used to have an awk script to extract the fields, but I lost it 10:15:12 <Terkhen> the RU file is huge, you should have more than enough names :P 10:15:13 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> I'm using noob-o-Visual-Basic in Excel ) 10:15:31 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> it's obout 230k names 10:16:34 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> ok... macros stopped 10:16:42 <Terkhen> you can extract the cyrillic name in all cases then? 10:16:52 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> i got 167395 uniqe names ))) 10:16:58 <Terkhen> also it includes locations that are not towns, those should be filtered 10:17:05 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> BANG 10:17:30 <Terkhen> sort them by population and remove the last 150000 :P 10:17:35 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> ))) 11:19:29 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:29:37 <planetmaker> he, 160k names is sufficient for any map ;-) 11:29:50 <planetmaker> it'll probably blow the newgrf specs 11:45:04 <Terkhen> not really, IIRC it should allow 2^32 different names as long as you are not using town name parts 11:45:09 <Terkhen> it might blow up the game :P 11:46:18 <planetmaker> hm... I thought it was limited to 256^2 at most 11:46:23 <planetmaker> or something near there 11:47:15 <Terkhen> maybe :) 12:19:24 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> I made revision... Just 114166 left 12:23:13 <Ammler> my town names script have awk examples too 12:28:12 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> damn. I think that number still includes many duplicates... 12:28:58 <planetmaker> cat listfile | awk ... | sort | uniq 12:29:53 <Terkhen> Tloo-ZaRaZa: did you check http://www.geonames.org/export/codes.html? only the entries with PP* class are actually towns 12:29:54 <Webster> Title: GeoNames (at www.geonames.org) 12:30:04 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> Terkhen: yes 12:30:23 <Terkhen> wow, that's a lot of towns then :) 12:30:48 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> its not towns, all of them 12:30:57 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> for example 12:31:58 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> oh. i lost it, but i found abot 10 names wich do not exist today 12:32:18 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> i think list is full of such a names 12:33:30 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> still i found a lot of duplicates, because of different "alt. names" column 12:34:36 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> i cant delete it now, cos i have about 70 names to translate 12:34:54 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> strange town - Yaya-Borik 12:46:28 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> owww =( only 89.5 left 12:46:33 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> k* 13:07:09 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> Terkhen: is it posiible to keep two versions in rep? one current one and one with huge number of towns? 13:09:03 <Terkhen> hmm... I guess so, but why do you want to do that? 13:09:18 <Terkhen> also, you could do additional town selections in the same version 13:09:25 <Terkhen> latin (small) and latin (big) for example 13:09:53 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> thats right) didn't think about it 13:22:47 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> Terkhen: i lost planetmaker's link to german translation. do ypu have it in logs? 13:23:24 <Terkhen> http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/german.lng 13:24:07 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> thanks 13:24:12 <planetmaker> :-) 13:25:47 <planetmaker> I obviously made an example why using the bug tracker for such things is better ;-) 13:26:20 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> =)) 13:26:26 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> good one 13:31:50 <Terkhen> :P 13:33:21 <Brot6> Russian Towns - Patch #2718 (New): dutch translation (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2718 13:34:41 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> cool ) 13:35:04 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> looks international... 13:36:30 <Yexo> like Terkhen and planetmaker I left out the part of the bug in openttd. Imo that doesn't belong in the newgrf description, as your newgrf will work perfectly fine in openttd 1.2 where the bug will be gone 13:36:34 <Yexo> at least, if it's really gone 13:36:50 <Yexo> pm and me had some disagreement over that, as I can't reproduce it in trunk but he can 13:37:29 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> ok. i'll remove it 13:41:37 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> maybe add info about authors? ) 13:42:27 <Yexo> that's up to you. and "authors" here means you only. Listing all translators is not possible, especially not when you ask for a few more translations on the forum 13:42:41 <Yexo> you could list those in a separate readme file if you wanted 13:42:50 <planetmaker> like adding a readme file 13:43:20 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> why not possible? 13:44:03 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> way gpl works? 13:45:59 <Yexo> it's possible, but the list will very soon become too large to fit in the newgrf window in openttd 13:46:36 <Yexo> gpl requires some credit, but not necessarily in the newgrf description 13:47:07 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> ok 13:47:37 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> You really think it will be translated to to more langs? 13:48:02 <Yexo> if you ask for it on the forums (copy your english.lng file in your post, and ask for translations), yes, you will get more 13:48:14 <Yexo> if you don't ask for them you might get one or two more, but not much 14:18:41 *** Lakie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:38:11 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:04:38 *** Lakie has quit IRC 15:47:58 <Brot6> Russian Towns - Bug #2720 (Assigned): Missing some Russian names (Tloo-ZaRaZa) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2720 15:49:53 <Brot6> Russian Towns - Feature #2721 (Assigned): Random names generator (Tloo-ZaRaZa) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2721 15:56:15 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> tell me pls about versions. first one i silly called test version. when and how to create next version? what should be naming? 16:00:50 <planetmaker> That's basically up to you. Personally I try to use a similar scheme as OpenTTD. I.e. a 3-digit version. Though 2-digit might do 16:01:17 <planetmaker> And 1.0 will be the feature-complete thing what I had approx. in mind when starting the project 16:01:31 <Terkhen> for example: 0.2.0 includes new stuff over 0.1.0, 0.2.1 is 0.2.0 with only fixes, 1.0.0 is a feature complete version of the project 16:01:46 <planetmaker> like that :-) 16:02:24 <planetmaker> Tloo-ZaRaZa: you could look at the NewGRFs of the OpenGFX+ series 16:02:26 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> how to manage versions? 16:02:27 <planetmaker> They follow that style 16:02:48 <planetmaker> my build script does for me 16:02:57 <planetmaker> the makefile 16:03:07 <Terkhen> opengfx+ industries is specially fond of increasing the third number :P 16:03:13 <planetmaker> :-) 16:03:31 <Terkhen> no one has complained with the last one, though :) 16:03:39 <planetmaker> Tloo-ZaRaZa: have you some experience with linux? 16:03:43 <Terkhen> it might be time already for including lot of stuff that might break 16:04:00 <planetmaker> Terkhen: yes, we can move on with OpenGFX+ Industries :-) 16:04:08 <planetmaker> even if... we could always branch 16:04:35 <Terkhen> I want to code industries, but none of the pending features on the issue list catches my eye 16:04:42 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> planetmaker: just like configurating router with step-by-step instructions 16:04:47 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> used vim ) 16:04:52 <planetmaker> :-D 16:05:13 <planetmaker> Well. The versioning scheme I use depends on linux tools 16:05:22 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> i understood 16:05:26 <planetmaker> They're available on windows by means of the MinGW environment 16:05:36 <planetmaker> MinGW / MSys 16:05:49 <Terkhen> I could help you on that if you want to set it up 16:06:19 <planetmaker> I'd be happy to adopt this build system to your newgrf, if you want to go through installing that all 16:06:34 <planetmaker> it means basically to install most things in order to compile 16:07:01 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> =) let me try to fugure it out on win. maybe it can be usefull somehow in future 16:07:27 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> i mean TortoiseHg 16:07:36 <planetmaker> Without that or a similar scripting system, you'll have to update the language files manually 16:07:44 <planetmaker> this build script takes care of that for you 16:08:03 <planetmaker> by inserting the proper version infos. Also into the newgrf description 16:08:08 <planetmaker> within the grf block 16:08:31 <planetmaker> that's actually more important: that you increase the grf version in the grf block between each release 16:08:45 <planetmaker> less important of what you display to the user 16:08:45 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> yes, i noticed it in your code 16:10:45 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> ok. i'll try 16:11:19 <planetmaker> :-) 16:11:51 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> problem is i have 4 computers. and MinGW / MSys setup no way portable 16:12:36 <planetmaker> hm, not? 16:12:45 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> it uses PATH var 16:12:49 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> =-) 16:12:58 <Terkhen> hmm... mine does not 16:13:02 <planetmaker> that probably can be adopted ;-) 16:13:27 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> Terkhen: strange 16:13:38 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> i'll try 16:13:57 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> ok. time to go home. gl. hf 16:14:03 <Terkhen> IIRC it adds stuff to the PATH when you open the msys console, but it does not depend on permanent modifications 16:14:03 *** Tloo-ZaRaZa has quit IRC 16:14:21 <Ammler> there is http://semver.org/ 16:14:22 <Webster> Title: Semantic Versioning (at semver.org) 16:14:34 <Ammler> not completely compatible with openttd, missing v in tags 16:14:59 <Ammler> and no "-" 16:15:16 <Ammler> which would make it compatible with rpm/deb 17:19:07 <Brot6> firs: update from r1996 to r1999 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r1999 17:19:26 <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r750), 32bpp-extra (r40), ai-admiralai (r75), ai-aroai (r39), ailib-common (r21), ailib-direction (r17), ailib-list (r32), ailib-string (r29), ailib-tile (r16), airportsplus (r93), basecosts (r25), belarusiantowns (r8), bros (r52), chips (r141), comic-houses (r71), fish (r653), frenchtowns (r6), german-townnames (r34), grfcodec (r830), grfpack (r279), heqs (r605), 17:19:26 <Brot6> indonesiantowns (r41), manindu (r7), metrotrackset (r56), narvs (r37), newgrf_makefile (r294), nml (r1385), nutracks (r201), ogfx-industries (r119), ogfx-landscape (r69), ogfx-rv (r107), ogfx-trains (r241), ogfx-trees (r49), opengfx (r673), openmsx (r97), opensfx (r97), smts (r19), snowlinemod (r49), spanishtowns (r10), sub-landscape (ERROR r66), sub-opengfx (ERROR r666), swedishrails (r202), swisstowns (r22), transrapidtrackset (r15), 17:19:28 <Brot6> ttdviewer (r34), ttrs (r36), worldairlinersset (r672) 17:20:03 <Brot6> airportsplus: compile of r93 still failed (#2706) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/airportsplus/nightlies/ERROR/r93 17:20:37 <Brot6> ogfx-industries: compile of r119 still failed (#2707) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-industries/nightlies/ERROR/r119 17:20:50 <Brot6> ogfx-landscape: compile of r69 still failed (#2708) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-landscape/nightlies/ERROR/r69 17:21:09 <Brot6> sub-landscape: compile of r66 still failed (#2616) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/sub-landscape/nightlies/ERROR/r66 17:21:59 <Brot6> sub-opengfx: compile of r666 still failed (#2586) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/sub-opengfx/nightlies/ERROR/r666 18:46:14 *** Tloo-ZaRaZa has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:31:45 <Brot6> Russian Towns - Patch #2718 (Closed): dutch translation (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2718 19:31:45 <Brot6> Russian Towns - Bug #2720 (Closed): Missing some Russian names (Tloo-ZaRaZa) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2720 19:31:45 <Brot6> Russian Towns - Revision 5:c67ba8ab4725: Add: Dutch and German translations. Closes #2718. (Tloo-ZaRaZa) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/russiantowns/repository/revisions/c67ba8ab4725 19:31:45 <Brot6> Russian Towns - Bug #2720 (Closed): Missing some Russian names (Tloo-ZaRaZa) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2720#change-6810 19:31:48 <Brot6> Russian Towns - Patch #2718 (Closed): dutch translation (Tloo-ZaRaZa) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2718#change-6809 19:40:00 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> What minimum OpenTTD version to choose on bananas upload? 19:41:24 <Yexo> a town name grf should be supported by all versions 19:41:25 <planetmaker> 1.0 or something 19:41:36 <Yexo> 1.0 or something is safe for sure though 19:41:55 <planetmaker> I'd not set it to 0.7 ;-) 19:42:14 <planetmaker> not that it's not supported... but :-) 19:42:32 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> =) 19:47:55 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> "cyrillic and latin" must be with capital letter or not? :-\ 19:49:01 <Yexo> in dutch not, but I don't know about English 19:49:17 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> in russian not too) 19:49:39 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> but in google seems to me, that in English it does 19:49:39 <Yexo> I think in English you should write it with a capital 19:49:46 <Yexo> at least that is what wikipedia suggests 19:55:51 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> hell yeah. it's available on bananas ) 19:56:08 <planetmaker> sweet :-) 19:58:47 *** Tloo-ZaRaZa_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:58:56 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1386:140976b987a2: Codechange: simplify to_hex function (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/140976b987a2 19:59:09 <Yexo> given the simplicity of the to_hex function I think we could remove it altogether 19:59:17 <Brot6> Russian Towns - Revision 6:99f51062a3e3: Update: Replaced "Russian Towns Names" with "Russian Tow... (Tloo-ZaRaZa) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/russiantowns/repository/revisions/99f51062a3e3 19:59:54 <Tloo-ZaRaZa_> what a fast IRC server... it takes up to 2 minutes to connect to any rusnet servers 20:00:28 <Yexo> I'd rather say 2 minutes is extremely long 20:00:38 <Terkhen> ^ 20:03:52 *** Tloo-ZaRaZa has quit IRC 20:36:30 *** Tloo-ZaRaZa_ has quit IRC 20:46:47 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:50:22 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1387:18d83cb5568c: Fix: register all item names in a separate sta... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/18d83cb5568c 21:59:13 *** ODM has quit IRC 23:05:14 <Brot6> DictatorAI - Revision 114:c3172813a1d2: - Add workaround for brumi's bug when loading a savegame ... (krinn) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ai-dictator/repository/revisions/c3172813a1d2