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00:38:28 *** Lakie has quit IRC 04:51:44 *** bodis has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 05:44:22 *** bodis has quit IRC 05:49:25 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 06:01:49 <Terkhen> Yexo: also to allow to read the persistent storage of other newgrfs 06:03:03 <Terkhen> http://devs.openttd.org/~terkhen/patches/index.php?folder=persistent/ <--- these are the test newgrfs I used 06:21:51 <Terkhen> yes, from reading the logs that part was confusing :P 06:22:09 <Terkhen> when accessing town persistent storage you have read access to all, write acess to your own grfid 06:22:52 <Terkhen> bbl 09:27:36 *** Tloo-ZaRaZa has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:43:29 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> hi 11:43:44 <Terkhen> hi Tloo-ZaRaZa 11:44:06 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> Terkhen: how to use " is string? "" ? 11:44:16 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> in* 11:44:21 <Terkhen> hmm... what do you mean? 11:44:40 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> string "Az"yal" 11:44:55 <planetmaker> "Az\"yal" 11:45:04 <Terkhen> yes, just escape the " 11:45:51 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> ok. thnx ) trying to compile megaNameGrf. I takes up to 5 minutes ) 11:47:48 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> souce file has 181k lines )) 11:48:37 <planetmaker> uhm... that sounds like it could be split more logically into several newgrfs. 11:49:16 <Terkhen> I'm curious to see if openttd chokes to death on it or not :) 11:49:19 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> yes. just interested if game can process it 11:49:42 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> +1 11:51:25 <planetmaker> I'm not sure which outcome I shall wish for ;-) 11:52:48 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> and newGrf file size is interesting too 11:53:07 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> source is 5.1m 11:54:08 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature #2739: Advanced sprite layouts (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2739#change-6877 11:55:15 <Terkhen> nice :P 11:55:37 <planetmaker> \o/ @ Hirundo 11:55:49 <Terkhen> how big is the grf? 11:55:51 <planetmaker> and I thought it was a commit 11:56:04 <Hirundo> bad luck :) 11:56:06 <Terkhen> :P 11:56:08 <planetmaker> :-P 11:56:21 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> =D 11:57:34 <planetmaker> what did you combine to get a grf that large, Tloo-ZaRaZa ? 11:58:28 <planetmaker> you'd need to combine like...2ccTS and FIRS and OpenGFX+ * to one set 11:58:48 <Terkhen> I'm guessing a few thousands of town names 11:59:10 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> ninety 11:59:20 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> ninety thousands ) 12:00:01 <Terkhen> both in cyrillic and latin? :P 12:00:27 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> http://www.geonames.org/ http://download.geonames.org/export/dump/RU.zip 12:00:28 <Webster> Title: GeoNames (at www.geonames.org) 12:00:33 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> spare 12:00:45 <Terkhen> :P 12:00:48 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> ninety thousands of cyr and ninety thousands lat 12:01:21 * Terkhen has been thinking of making a scripted realistic scenario generator 12:01:33 <planetmaker> :-D 12:01:50 <planetmaker> I guess that'll be the biggest town name list ever within the TTD world 12:02:06 <Terkhen> it would only need the allCountries.zip file and a dump of all srtm data 12:04:54 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> i was just luky to parse that thing, as it has translations in one comme-separated string 12:06:55 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> and i saw that Lithuanian pack has been released too ) 12:08:49 <Terkhen> yes :) 12:09:10 <Terkhen> I forgot to point bodis to this data, though... although he never asked about places for getting town name data 12:10:58 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> nmlc: "input", line 2179: Too many values in a part, found 351, maximum is 255 12:11:01 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> =(((((((((( 12:11:56 <Terkhen> huh? strange 12:12:08 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> 2179 is meanless town name text("Абайтикау", 1), 12:12:41 <Ammler> Tloo-ZaRaZa: using a old nml? 12:12:51 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> using precomp bins ( 12:13:04 <Ammler> nmlc --version 12:13:06 <planetmaker> hm... but townnames didn't recently change 12:13:35 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> c:\ottd\nml>nmlc --version 12:13:36 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> r1377 (c191a974b9ec) 12:13:36 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> Library versions encountered: 12:13:36 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> PIL: 1.1.7 12:13:36 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> PLY: 3.4 12:14:26 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> he pointed me at unescaped " much further that this string 12:18:46 <Terkhen> Tloo-ZaRaZa: what is at that point? 12:19:06 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> 7[16:12] Tloo-ZaRaZa: 2179 is meanless town name text("Абайтикау", 1), 12:19:45 <Terkhen> strange :/ 12:19:54 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> i have 4 town_names sections 12:20:16 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> first and second is small (1k) cyr and lat names 12:20:35 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> third and forth are large ones 12:21:06 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> 2179 is 18th townname of the third section 12:21:24 <Terkhen> what does it do if you have a single town_name section with only that town name? 12:21:42 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> let me see... 12:22:14 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature #2739: Advanced sprite layouts (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2739#change-6878 12:23:06 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> Terkhen: its ok 12:23:38 <planetmaker> then the string is "bad" 12:23:59 <Terkhen> if a single block with only that town name works then the error is caused by having too many town names... but then the output message seems wrong to me 12:25:01 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> now i'll try to delete that string in big file 12:25:25 <Yexo> <Terkhen> if a single block with only that town name works then the error is caused by having too many town names... but then the output message seems wrong to me <- looks to me that nml can't do double redirects for town names 12:25:42 <Yexo> it can split a list up in blocks of 255 names each, but can't split that list up any further 12:26:00 <Terkhen> oh, I see 12:26:40 <Terkhen> then you are limited to 255*255 town names 12:26:47 <Yexo> hmm, not sure actually 12:27:23 <Yexo> might also be that there are really too many "parts" (not real names, but final names or blocks of real names) in one block 12:28:02 <planetmaker> how many bits are there for town names? 12:28:07 <planetmaker> 56? 12:28:09 <planetmaker> 64? 12:28:15 <Yexo> 32 12:28:24 <planetmaker> hm, still enough :-) 12:28:28 <planetmaker> @calc 2**32 12:28:28 <Webster> planetmaker: 4294967296 12:28:31 <planetmaker> :-P 12:28:34 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> =)) 12:28:36 <Terkhen> "earth town names" 12:28:56 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> Solar system town names 12:29:01 <planetmaker> that's boring. "Earth village names" ;-) 12:29:12 <Terkhen> infinite and beyond town names 12:29:16 <planetmaker> :-P 12:29:27 <planetmaker> "A galaxy of place names" 12:29:41 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> Milky way toponym 12:29:43 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> s 12:30:32 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> so... 12:31:36 <Yexo> Tloo-ZaRaZa: it looks like a bug in nml. If you could upload the source somewhere I'll try and fix it 12:31:50 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> sure 12:32:10 <planetmaker> a good place might be the NML issue tracker ;-) 12:35:07 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> interesting. i commented that string but he still points on it 12:37:18 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #2740 (New): Can't compile very big town names file (Tloo-ZaRaZa) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2740 12:37:53 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> here it is 12:38:30 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #2740: Can't compile very big town names file (Tloo-ZaRaZa) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2740#change-6879 12:38:30 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature #2739: Advanced sprite layouts (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2739#change-6880 12:40:32 <Yexo> Hirundo: oh, now I read your first comment again I think you're probably right :) 12:40:45 <Yexo> I read "different action1", not "different action1 set" 12:42:57 <Hirundo> It means there is no sanity check on whether the resulting value is actually a real sprite from that action1 12:43:20 <Yexo> there were never any such sanity checks 12:43:21 <Hirundo> but again, such is the case for "TTD sprites" as well 12:43:31 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> what do you think of nml windows installer? if pil, ply has silence installer or can be just copied it seems to me not very hard to create an installer 12:44:01 <Yexo> Tloo-ZaRaZa: do you know we already have windows binaries? 12:44:17 <Yexo> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/LATEST/ <- the zip file contains a windows .exe 12:44:40 <Yexo> trying to compile rusnames.nml takes a _very_ long time btw 12:44:47 <Yexo> unless it's stuck in a loop somewhere 12:44:59 <Tloo-ZaRaZa> 3-5 mins till error 12:45:14 <Yexo> indeed, 3m20 :) 13:48:04 * Tloo-ZaRaZa is trying to find newGrf he made with a friend with soviet electric locomotives 13:53:09 <planetmaker> :-) 16:59:08 *** Lakie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:09:56 <Brot6> nml: update from r1403 to r1404 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/r1404 17:16:22 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:18:24 <Brot6> nutracks: update from r201 to r202 done (9 errors) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nutracks/nightlies/r202 17:18:35 <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: 2cctrainset (r750), 32bpp-extra (r40), ai-admiralai (r75), ai-aroai (r39), ailib-common (r21), ailib-direction (r17), ailib-list (r32), ailib-string (r29), ailib-tile (r16), airportsplus (r93), basecosts (r25), belarusiantowns (r8), bros (r52), chips (r141), comic-houses (r71), firs (r2048), fish (r653), frenchtowns (r6), german-townnames (r34), grfcodec (r831), grfpack (r279), heqs 17:18:35 <Brot6> (r605), indonesiantowns (r41), manindu (r7), metrotrackset (r56), narvs (r37), newgrf_makefile (r294), nml (r1404), ogfx-industries (r119), ogfx-landscape (r69), ogfx-rv (r107), ogfx-trains (ERROR r242), ogfx-trees (r50), opengfx (r673), openmsx (r97), opensfx (r97), smts (r19), snowlinemod (r49), spanishtowns (r10), sub-landscape (ERROR r66), sub-opengfx (ERROR r666), swedishrails (r202), swisstowns (r22), transrapidtrackset (r15), 17:18:37 <Brot6> ttdviewer (r34), ttrs (r36), worldairlinersset (r672) 17:23:19 <Brot6> ogfx-trains: update from r241 to r242 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-trains/nightlies/r242 17:23:51 <Brot6> sub-landscape: compile of r66 still failed (#2616) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/sub-landscape/nightlies/ERROR/r66 17:24:38 <Brot6> sub-opengfx: compile of r666 still failed (#2586) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/sub-opengfx/nightlies/ERROR/r666 17:25:27 <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: airportsplus (Diffsize: 12), belarusiantowns (Diffsize: 30), frenchtowns, german-townnames, indonesiantowns (1 errors) (Diffsize: 1), manindu (Diffsize: 1), narvs, newgrf_makefile, ogfx-industries, ogfx-landscape (Diffsize: 21), ogfx-rv, spanishtowns (Diffsize: 1), swedishrails (Diffsize: 385), swisstowns 17:25:34 *** bodis has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:29:51 *** Tloo-ZaRaZa has quit IRC 18:10:41 *** Lakie has quit IRC 18:32:46 *** Lakie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:43:18 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:17:06 *** ODM has quit IRC 21:28:44 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 21:42:39 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 22:01:19 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #2741 (New): Finish reworking Recycling Plant graphics / ... 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