Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 6th August 2011:
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00:21:15  <Brot6> DevZone Help Center - Bug #2931 (Confirmed): SSL sessions sometimes switch to non-ssl (Ammler) @
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07:40:12  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1576:73fc7714c186: Change: use a better version of (andythenorth) @
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08:24:33  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 612:e4039b92afc8: Change: work in progress Forklift (andythenorth) @
08:24:33  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 613:140f95241640: Change: update hgignore to exclude heqs... (andythenorth) @
08:25:31  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 614:fc785ec03bdb: Change: refactor a define name (andythenorth) @
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09:56:31  <Hirundo> Where was the opengfx sprite viewer page located again?
09:56:48  <planetmaker>
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09:57:08  <planetmaker> change the sprite numbers accordingly. And the filetype by the letter following the ?
09:58:09  <Hirundo> thanks
10:00:14  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 615:6ab12ac0b79f: Change: rename source for Forklift (andythenorth) @
10:30:11  <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 246:3ac015c36ccc: Add: Brasilian translation (prppedro) (planetmaker) @
10:36:04  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 616:36ab1919a0fc: Change: work in progress on Forklift (andythenorth) @
10:51:37  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 617:b2fcb33449af: Fix: (unconfirmed) resolve some issues ... (andythenorth) @
10:51:37  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Bug #2414 (Closed): Tram trailing vehicle lengths appear to be wrong (andythenorth) @
10:58:21  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1577:308e780e27d2: Add: Make another bit of planetmaker's NML cod... (Hirundo) @
10:59:44  <planetmaker> >:-{
10:59:49  * planetmaker hugs Hirundo
11:04:00  <Ammler> wouldn't the examples be good as regression test?
11:06:55  <Ammler> maybe just add the md5sum?
11:09:30  <Ammler> btw. <-- why have some files x flag set?
11:11:33  <planetmaker> no idea
11:14:38  <Ammler> I guess, Hirundo does add +x to every file
11:15:12  <Hirundo> Do I?
11:16:10  <Ammler> looks like :-)
11:22:11  <frosch123> windows user?
11:22:47  <Ammler>  shall I push ?
11:26:26  <Hirundo> frosch123: yes
11:27:28  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Code Review #2932 (New): unneded exec (+x) flag set on some files (Ammler) @
11:30:05  <Brot6> FISH - Revision 684:7303b7831b8a: Feature: disable default Ferries as no longer required (replace... (andythenorth) @
11:30:05  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Feature #2511 (Feedback): Forklift truck (andythenorth) @
11:32:44  <frosch123> whenever i look at a windows filesystem using a linux thingie, everything as executable flags set
11:34:24  <Ammler> hmm, stupid lodgeit does cut trailing newline
11:34:37  <Ammler> how silly is that :-(
11:34:47  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Bug #2642: Buy menu positions are wrong (andythenorth) @
11:39:36  <Ammler> or stupid patch not able to handle patches with such end
11:40:47  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 618:aff4043bcc0b: Change: reduce tram lifespan as suggest... (andythenorth) @
11:40:47  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Feature #2512 (Closed): Reduce lifetime of trams (andythenorth) @
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11:52:17  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 619:78340d738127: Feature: mention that tram running cost... (andythenorth) @
11:52:17  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Feature #2553 (Closed): Not clear to user that higher tram capacit... (andythenorth) @
11:55:59  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 620:f3807fd7db68: Feature: reduce running cost of 45t Dor... (andythenorth) @
11:55:59  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Bug #2542 (Closed): 45t Dorstfeld tram costs too much to run (andythenorth) @
12:43:46  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #2933 (New): Handling of failed callbacks (Hirundo) @
12:51:33  <Brot6> DictatorAI - Revision 125:022e4a0a1c94: - Reorganize source tree (krinn) @
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12:53:51  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 621:c7f93b107f7a: Feature: Forklift truck (closes #2511) (andythenorth) @
12:53:51  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Feature #2511 (Closed): Forklift truck (andythenorth) @
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12:55:37  <andythenorth> #2476
12:55:37  <Brot6> andythenorth: #2476 is "HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Feature #2476: Czech translation - parameter settings - #openttdcoop Development Zone"
12:55:45  <andythenorth> ^ anyone want to help with that?
12:56:44  <andythenorth> I'm not convinced about the language support method in HEQS
12:56:53  <andythenorth> it's becoming unwieldy
12:58:55  <andythenorth> V453000: ^^
12:59:06  <andythenorth> if you copy-paste it into the pnfo, I'll include it
12:59:58  <andythenorth>
13:02:32  <FooBar> maybe you should use some of the NML2NFO magic that OpenGFX employs
13:02:56  <andythenorth> maybe
13:02:59  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 622:69873682d2be: Fix: Mog wasn't using vehicle length co... (andythenorth) @
13:03:04  <FooBar> OpenGFX uses it for vehicles, but I'm convinced you can use it for (Action14) translations as well
13:03:06  <andythenorth> I would need a helper
13:03:12  <andythenorth> otherwise I don't ship translations :P
13:03:24  <FooBar> that's also a solution
13:04:17  <FooBar> The biggest problem I see in the file you linked is that all translations are included in one Action14
13:04:32  <FooBar> There's absolutely no need for that; each translation can have it's own action 14
13:05:23  <FooBar> That should be far better maintainable; you could even separate code and translations and reuse the code for every translation (similar to what FIRS used to do)
13:05:55  <FooBar> that's maybe easier than NML
13:06:17  <FooBar> well, not easier than NML per se, but in this particular case without redoing the complete grf in NML
13:06:45  <planetmaker> yes... it might not be worth for HEQS. It's not as complex as FIRS
13:07:28  <FooBar> I'm redoing the OpenGFX farm fence now, I might have a look later when there's time
13:07:54  <planetmaker> you mean the hedges for meadows?
13:08:18  <planetmaker> hm, there are fences for them, too. both might need a check
13:08:46  <FooBar> I'll check all while I'm at it
13:08:58  <planetmaker> :-)
13:09:29  <FooBar> shall I save the new file in the "terrain" folder, or better create a new "landscape" folder?
13:10:12  <FooBar> the terrain folder works probably just as well, without the need for a new folder with one file :)
13:10:39  <FooBar> it can be moved as soon as there's more stuff for a possible landscape folder I guess
13:11:10  <planetmaker> good question
13:11:16  <planetmaker> I'd put it into terrain
13:11:30  <planetmaker> though... where are trees?
13:11:54  <Brot6> DictatorAI - Revision 126:38bbc6159acd: - bug correction (krinn) @
13:12:14  <planetmaker> FooBar: make a separate landscape, I think
13:12:22  <planetmaker> one could move trees there somewhen
13:12:30  <FooBar> trees have a separate dir
13:12:31  <planetmaker> or put them in terrain
13:12:40  <planetmaker> them = fences
13:12:44  <FooBar> the "field_haybales" is in terrain as well
13:12:46  <planetmaker> I'm unsure which is best
13:12:55  <planetmaker> well, those are also strictly speaking terrain tiles
13:13:15  <FooBar> hmmm, they are indeed
13:14:06  <FooBar> I'll put 'em in no folder at all for now. There's still a bunch of files that needs to be catogorized anyways
13:15:09  <planetmaker> well. That's why we should follow that approach to categorize
13:15:17  <planetmaker> please put them in some kind of foler :-)
13:15:28  <FooBar> Then I'll make the landscape folder :)
13:15:31  <planetmaker> either a (new) landscape or into terrain
13:15:37  <planetmaker> ok :-)
13:15:58  <planetmaker> as now it's no effort. Later it'll require extra work
13:17:45  <FooBar> that's true
13:40:02  <Brot6> DictatorAI - Revision 127:8abaeed544e6: - Move orders tasks in the correct source file (krinn) @
14:38:21  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #781 (Closed): farm hedges not properly aligned (foobar) @
14:38:21  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 706:39216dc49ba9: Fix #781: improve farm field fences and hedges (foobar) @
14:50:22  <FooBar> heh, just started toyland and saw a red balloon (as tree). Tried to pop it like in rollercoaster tycoon :P
14:51:12  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #1263 (Closed): Toyland Rough Land (foobar) @
14:51:12  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 707:2a1ea2179f38: Fix #1263: Update toyland rough terrain sprites (2006TTD) (foobar) @
14:52:38  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 623:a4703eee0bef: Fix: Forklift was in wrong vehicle group (andythenorth) @
15:03:59  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 624:5e6d17c83214: Change: work in progress on railmotor tram (andythenorth) @
15:06:01  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 708:3d071b3db273: Feature #885: toyland building ground tile (2006TTD) (foobar) @
15:06:53  <Brot6> DictatorAI - Revision 128:c8bae8cef1be: - Correct rawjob not adding towns (krinn) @
15:08:36  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Feature #885 (Closed): Toyland House and Industry Ground tile (foobar) @
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15:33:19  <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Landscape - Revision 75:c555a6de567a: Feature: Fences for company owned land. This ups t... (planetmaker) @
15:36:00  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Code Review #2934 (New): Translations (foobar) @
15:36:03  <FooBar> andythenorth: check #2934, you might like it
15:36:03  <Brot6> FooBar: andythenorth: #2934 is "HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Code Review #2934: Translations - #openttdcoop Development Zone"
15:37:58  <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Landscape - Bug #2708 (Closed): DevZone compile failed (planetmaker) @
15:38:42  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 625:61050522c790: Feature: Yonkers Railmotor (closes #2362) (andythenorth) @
15:38:43  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Feature #2362 (Closed): Railmotor tram (andythenorth) @
15:38:43  <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Landscape - Feature Request #2310 (Closed): NewObject: company land (planetmaker) @
15:39:49  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #2913: Sheep farm uses 7E procedure calls (planetmaker) @
15:40:12  <planetmaker> hm, the amount of temp. storage use is increasing :-P
15:43:01  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 626:1127dad9b867: Fix: set correct sound for Railmotor (andythenorth) @
15:43:01  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 627:e92b610d7202: Change: give the forklift a name and co... (andythenorth) @
15:45:24  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Code Review #2934 (Closed): Translations (foobar) @
15:45:25  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 628:58b7de1f5c72: Change: better translations framework f... (andythenorth) @
15:45:25  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Code Review #2934 (Closed): Translations (andythenorth) @
15:45:25  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Feature #2476 (Closed): Czech translation - parameter settings (andythenorth) @
15:45:32  <andythenorth> FooBar: ^
15:45:50  <FooBar> neat :)
15:45:55  <andythenorth> and the obvious next commit... :P
15:46:31  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 629:3e31626d1720: Fix: missing files (andythenorth) @
15:50:08  <FooBar> andythenorth: hmmm, you might want to remove #define PARAM_RUNNING_COST  00 #define PARAM_PURCHASE_COST 01 from the top of each translation file. Seems I've forgotten to remove that.
15:50:35  <andythenorth> oh :P
15:51:52  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 630:eac27c26eb4c: Change: improve the buy menu layout of ... (andythenorth) @
15:52:43  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 631:212df4fbbec6: Fix: Ishizuchi Tram missing (Electric) ... (andythenorth) @
15:52:43  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 632:fa3b4c998498: Cleanup: remove some mistaken defines (andythenorth) @
15:52:56  <andythenorth>
15:53:03  <andythenorth> kind of implies next release is ready ^
15:55:30  <FooBar> andythenorth: if you want to wait a couple of minutes, I can give you a Dutch translation
15:55:41  <andythenorth> fine by me
15:55:48  <andythenorth> I have to write changelog and such anyway
16:04:39  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 633:d199ed94b790: Change: update changelog preparatory to... (andythenorth) @
16:09:59  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Feature #2935 (New): Dutch translation (foobar) @
16:10:21  <FooBar> andythenorth: ^
16:11:58  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 634:fcd6cea21806: Feature: Dutch translation for paramete... (andythenorth) @
16:14:55  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 635:a586386a7fc0: Change: add to credits (andythenorth) @
16:15:11  <andythenorth> ach is it done?
16:15:13  <andythenorth> can I release?
16:15:26  <andythenorth> there are some quality issues, but I'll fix those once they annoy me enough
16:19:34  <planetmaker> then go for it before the thought about "release or not release" gets annoying ;-)
16:21:32  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 636:871e2db57f08: Added tag 1.2.0 for changeset a586386a7fc0 (andythenorth) @
16:23:11  <andythenorth> I never get my download counts much above 25k :P
16:23:18  <Brot6> heqs: update from 1.1.0 to 1.2.0 done -
16:24:16  <planetmaker> :-)
16:41:26  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Feature #2935 (Closed): Dutch translation (foobar) @
16:41:26  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Feature #2935 (Closed): Dutch translation (andythenorth) @
16:47:52  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Feature #1129 (Rejected): Remove Fourtrac (andythenorth) @
16:50:04  <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Feature #2571 (Rejected): Esoteric vehicles (rail-truck, bulldozer... (andythenorth) @
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17:09:04  <Brot6> grfcodec: update from r832 to r833 done -
17:12:02  <Brot6> nml: update from r1575 to r1577 done -
17:18:16  <Brot6> ogfx-trains: update from r245 to r246 done -
17:20:20  <Brot6> opengfx: update from r704 to r708 done -
17:21:46  <Brot6> heqs: update from r611 to r636 done -
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17:23:36  <Brot6> fish: update from r683 to r684 done -
17:24:52  <Brot6> ogfx-landscape: update from r74 to r75 done -
17:25:19  <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: narvs (r37), bros (r52), ogfx-industries (r122), firs (r2233), ailib-tile (r16), foobarstramtracks (r23), transrapidtrackset (r28), 2cctrainset (r750), cets (r126), ailib-list (r32), opensfx (r97), ttdviewer (r34), worldairlinersset (r672), openmsx (r97), basecosts (r25), nutracks (r202), nml (r1577), 32bpp-extra (r40), manindu (r7), newgrf_makefile (r305), ailib-direction (r17),
17:25:19  <Brot6> ailib-common (r21), snowlinemod (r49), dutchtramset (r87), ai-admiralai (r75), swisstowns (r22), metrotrackset (r56), spanishtowns (r10), frenchtowns (r6), grfpack (r279), ogfx-rv (r107), ttrs (r36), ogfx-trees (r51), swedishrails (r204), grfcodec (r833), ai-aroai (r39), german-townnames (r34), smts (r19), chips (r143), belarusiantowns (r8), indonesiantowns (r41), ailib-string (r29), airportsplus (r107), comic-houses (r71)
17:26:02  <Brot6> narvs: compile of r37 still failed (#2789) -
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17:58:55  <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: bros (1 warnings), ogfx-industries, firs (37 warnings), foobarstramtracks, transrapidtrackset, 2cctrainset (6 warnings), cets (436 warnings), worldairlinersset, basecosts, nutracks (9 warnings), 32bpp-extra (2 warnings), manindu (Diffsize: 2), newgrf_makefile, snowlinemod, dutchtramset, swisstowns, metrotrackset (Diffsize: 1), spanishtowns (Diffsize:
17:58:55  <Brot6> 2), frenchtowns, ogfx-rv (Diffsize: 4775), ttrs (7 warnings) (Diffsize: 1324), ogfx-trees, swedishrails, german-townnames (Diffsize: 1), smts (Diffsize: 8), chips (1 warnings), belarusiantowns (Diffsize: 30), indonesiantowns (1 warnings) (Diffsize: 1), airportsplus (2 warnings) (Diffsize: 30186), comic-houses (3 warnings) (Diffsize: 22)
18:17:10  <andythenorth> #2731
18:17:10  <Brot6> andythenorth: #2731 is "FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #2731: All the defines for cb28 varaction 2 ID should be factored out - #openttdcoop Development Zone"
18:17:19  <andythenorth> ^ planetmaker I figure that can be rejected?
18:21:40  <planetmaker> I guess so. Talking about specific action2 IDs doesn't make sense in NML context
18:26:15  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #2731 (Rejected): All the defines for cb28 varaction 2 ID... (andythenorth) @
18:35:09  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2234:d5c9dc065289: Change: refactor code typo - 'diary' ... (andythenorth) @
18:35:09  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #2865 (Closed): Typo in 'diary' constant (andythenorth) @
18:36:06  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #2338 (Rejected): Unexpected production changes (andythenorth) @
19:02:24  <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #2901 (Rejected): Sugar refinery can have oil refinery disaster (andythenorth) @
19:05:53  <Brot6> clientpatches: update from r22720 to r22727 done (6 warnings) -
19:10:49  <Brot6> openttd-vehiclevars: update from r22720 to r22727 done -
19:15:48  <Brot6> serverpatches: update from r22720 to r22727 done (10 warnings) -
19:17:56  <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: compile of r22727 still failed (#2446) -
20:01:22  <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 247:d27e42037be9: Add some generated files to ignore (planetmaker) @
20:01:22  <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 248:2f9fb1f5b022: Feature: Allow to select all engines except toyland (planetmaker) @
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