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01:35:43 <Brot6> Example NewGRF Project - Revision 306:82cb71666c4f: -Doc: Briefly comment on option to use gimp (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/newgrf-makefile/repository/revisions/82cb71666c4f 01:35:43 <Brot6> Example NewGRF Project - Revision 307:8c0fe6017014: Change: Separate individual project types int... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/newgrf-makefile/repository/revisions/8c0fe6017014 01:35:43 <Brot6> Example NewGRF Project - Revision 308:e6a3480e0d2f: Fix: Move also the 'example' projects to the ... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/newgrf-makefile/repository/revisions/e6a3480e0d2f 01:35:45 <Brot6> Example NewGRF Project - Revision 309:e0c74a11a5e7: Cleanup: Remove now unused files (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/newgrf-makefile/repository/revisions/e0c74a11a5e7 01:35:49 <Brot6> Example NewGRF Project - Revision 310:9a29b9349b8e: Feature: Script for helping to create a chang... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/newgrf-makefile/repository/revisions/9a29b9349b8e 01:35:53 <Brot6> Example NewGRF Project - Revision 311:889adbde87ba: Feature: [NML] Script to check status of lang... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/newgrf-makefile/repository/revisions/889adbde87ba 05:39:43 <Brot6> Example NewGRF Project - Revision 312:35777c4c14d1: Change: Adopt .hgignore for projects (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/newgrf-makefile/repository/revisions/35777c4c14d1 05:48:58 <Brot6> Example NewGRF Project - Revision 313:5693d0f3e15b: Fix: Also copy the hidden files and dirs into... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/newgrf-makefile/repository/revisions/5693d0f3e15b 08:54:34 <Terkhen> we need truly snow aware houses too 08:54:36 *** hanf has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:54:47 <Terkhen> they look ugly in tiles with partial snow :P 08:56:16 <planetmaker> very much so :-) 08:56:26 <planetmaker> it's on my list for long, actually :-) 08:56:39 <planetmaker> We need better houses anyway. At least in OpenGFX. 08:56:47 <planetmaker> I'm not happy with the image noise found in them 08:56:49 <Terkhen> :) 08:57:13 <Ammler> didn't you recruit the new guy for that task? 08:57:19 <Ammler> :-P 08:57:19 <planetmaker> I thought about preying a bit in Swedish houses for arctic climate... 08:57:27 <planetmaker> Ammler, not yet. Or he doesn't know :-P 08:57:46 <planetmaker> But I'm very happy about he starting to work on Ogfx+Airports and now adding them to OpenGFX itself, too 08:58:43 <planetmaker> One of the problems with houses is still that I don't want to put-off Zephyris... 08:59:08 <Terkhen> planetmaker: http://devs.openttd.org/~terkhen/patches/index.php?source=firs/spritelayout_templates.diff 09:00:18 <planetmaker> I like it :-) 09:01:42 <planetmaker> it would be perfect, if the spritelayouts in builder's yard were named more meaningful 09:02:03 <Terkhen> true, but I'll leave that work to "someone" :P 09:02:13 <planetmaker> That's probably also enough templating on the spritelayouts 09:02:24 <Terkhen> yes, this templates less stuff that the earlier approach 09:02:29 <Terkhen> but you can more easily add stuff 09:02:30 <planetmaker> No need to make it one-line for each. But one line per sprite is actually very good and very reasily readable 09:02:50 <Terkhen> and those orphan spritelayouts containing only ground sprites can now be templated too 09:02:54 <planetmaker> so I like this new way better than the current one 09:02:58 <planetmaker> yup :-) 09:03:14 <planetmaker> Less template, but better readable 09:03:18 <Terkhen> ok, I'll commit it then :) 09:03:24 <planetmaker> and more flexibility. Yuhu! :-) 09:03:37 <Terkhen> what other industries are using overlays? 09:03:46 <Terkhen> I'm not going to start a huge conversion again :P 09:04:52 <planetmaker> no, no need for that 09:04:55 <planetmaker> we do that on the fly 09:05:01 <Terkhen> NOTE: The use of these templates is deprecated. Use the templates defined in spritelayouts_groundaware.pnml instead. */ <--- should I add this note to the old templates? 09:05:02 <planetmaker> when needed 09:05:12 <planetmaker> good idea 09:05:24 <Terkhen> ok, I'll create an associated task too :) 09:05:49 <planetmaker> I wonder whether it's sensible to create gcc warnings. But that might be too much 09:08:06 <Terkhen> probably too much, yes 09:08:31 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2578:1b9354c790f2: Codechange: Builders Yard uses ground... (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/1b9354c790f2 09:10:53 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #3034 (New): Conversion of spritelayout templates to the new ... (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3034 09:10:54 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Bug #3033 (New): Conversion of spritelayout templates to the new ... (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3033 09:11:32 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #3034 (New): Conversion of spritelayout templates to the ... (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3034 09:14:35 <planetmaker> hm, I should indeed play a nice yacd game with ogfx+trains, ogfx+rv, ogfx+airports once... I think I never noticed the barrels being also in ogfx+rv :-) 09:21:41 <Terkhen> no, I meant the boxes 09:21:46 <Terkhen> I never added the barrels IIRC 09:26:34 <planetmaker> oh :-) 09:44:47 <Yexo> planetmaker: how did you handle credits for translations in grf projects so far? 09:45:01 <Yexo> I was wondering whether I should add a little section in readme.txt for it 09:46:29 <Terkhen> I recently did that for OpenGFX+ Road Vehicles: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-rv/repository/entry/docs/readme.ptxt 09:46:57 <Yexo> ah, thanks 09:46:59 <Yexo> I'll copy that :) 09:47:33 <Terkhen> ok :) 09:47:58 <Yexo> do you have a translation for the few strings in opengfx+airports too? 09:48:30 <Terkhen> no, but I'll do one now 09:54:10 <Terkhen> judging from the compilation time, this must have a huge number of sprites 09:54:33 <Yexo> it's not as big as FIRS, but pretty big 09:54:51 <Yexo> hmm, actually the final grf is bigger than firs 10:05:37 <Terkhen> Yexo: http://devs.openttd.org/~terkhen/patches/ogfx_airports_spanish.diff 10:06:35 <Yexo> thanks :) 10:12:47 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Airports - Revision 145:68885c779003: Add: translations for Dutch, Russian, Spanish and ... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/airportsplus/repository/revisions/68885c779003 10:14:09 <planetmaker> Yexo, that's what I did exactly: a section in the readme 10:34:53 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2579:57b25d1fb976: Add: proper plural support for a few ... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/57b25d1fb976 10:35:20 <Yexo> other firs translators might want to copy that ^^ 10:36:20 <Terkhen> ooh, I'm missing those plurals too :) 10:36:56 <Yexo> there wasn't a single translation in firs with proper plural support 10:36:58 <Terkhen> I recently added genders 10:37:03 <Terkhen> but I forgot about plurals :) 10:42:21 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2580:716e4d34d1f9: Update: Spanish translation. (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/716e4d34d1f9 10:47:03 <Yexo> Terkhen: you broke firs 10:47:20 <Yexo> you need to add "##plural 0" at the top of the language file 10:49:42 <planetmaker> Yexo, German doesn't need it ;-) 10:49:48 <planetmaker> it's a "gender" there 10:50:21 <Yexo> STR_CARGO_UNIT_FMSP :{SIGNED_WORD} Kisten landw. Betriebsmittel <- "1 Kisten" ? 10:50:55 <planetmaker> that's wrong :-) 10:51:01 <Yexo> see? you do need it :p 10:51:07 <planetmaker> :-) 10:51:46 <planetmaker> {1: "" n} 10:51:57 <planetmaker> hm... how does it work? 10:52:18 <Yexo> that looks wrong 10:52:27 <Yexo> should be {P 0 "" n} 10:53:27 <planetmaker> 0 Kisten, 1 Kiste, n>1 Kisten 10:54:07 <Yexo> yes, the 0 is for the offset of the variable to check 10:54:34 <Yexo> if you have "##plural 0" at the top you use plural system 0, you can see here what that means: http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/StringCodes#Using_plural_forms 10:54:50 <Yexo> for system 0: two forms, first form used for 1, second form used for the rest 10:55:02 <planetmaker> ah, thanks. I was searching for that 10:55:06 <Yexo> so {P 0 "" n} means: use "" for value 1, use n for all other values 10:56:39 <planetmaker> yup :-) 10:56:58 <planetmaker> I guess I used it already in the German translation but didn't remember :-) 10:57:02 <planetmaker> Sound familiar 11:13:06 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature Request #3035 (New): Increase weight for supplies (George) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3035 11:15:31 *** EmperorJake has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 11:15:43 <EmperorJake> hello? 11:15:58 <Yexo> hello! 11:16:29 <EmperorJake> Hi, I'm having trouble with my makefile 11:16:56 <Yexo> which makefile, which OS, what kind of trouble? 11:17:35 <EmperorJake> I'm on ubuntu 10.04 64 bit, the makefile is for my vactrain set which I'm trying to get ready for the devzone. 11:17:54 <EmperorJake> Here is the output when I type make --debug 11:18:25 <EmperorJake> jake@jake-pc:~/GRF/vactrainset$ make --debug 11:18:25 <EmperorJake> GNU Make 3.81 11:18:25 <EmperorJake> Copyright (C) 2006 Free Software Foundation, Inc. 11:18:26 <EmperorJake> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. 11:18:26 <EmperorJake> There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A 11:18:26 <EmperorJake> PARTICULAR PURPOSE. 11:18:28 <EmperorJake> This program built for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu 11:18:30 <EmperorJake> Reading makefiles... 11:18:31 <Yexo> please use pastebin 11:18:32 <EmperorJake> [DEP] Makefile.dep 11:18:34 <EmperorJake> [DEP] vactrain.gfx.dep 11:18:36 <EmperorJake> GNU Make 3.81 11:18:38 <EmperorJake> Copyright (C) 2006 Free Software Foundation, Inc. 11:18:40 <EmperorJake> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. 11:18:42 <EmperorJake> There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A 11:18:44 <EmperorJake> PARTICULAR PURPOSE. 11:18:48 <EmperorJake> This program built for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu 11:18:50 <EmperorJake> Reading makefiles... 11:18:50 <Yexo> EmperorJake: please copy/paste to http://paste.openttdcoop.org/ 11:18:52 <EmperorJake> Updating goal targets.... 11:18:54 <EmperorJake> File `all' does not exist. 11:18:56 <EmperorJake> File `vactrain.grf' does not exist. 11:18:58 <EmperorJake> Must remake target `vactrain.grf'. 11:19:00 <EmperorJake> Successfully remade target file `vactrain.grf'. 11:19:02 <EmperorJake> Prerequisite `vactrain.grf' of target `vactrain.md5' does not exist. 11:19:04 <EmperorJake> Must remake target `vactrain.md5'. 11:19:06 <EmperorJake> [MD5] vactrain.md5 11:19:08 <EmperorJake> md5sum: vactrain.grf: No such file or directory 11:19:10 <EmperorJake> Successfully remade target file `vactrain.md5'. 11:19:12 <EmperorJake> Prerequisite `vactrain.md5' is newer than target `docs/readme.txt'. 11:19:14 <EmperorJake> Must remake target `docs/readme.txt'. 11:19:18 <EmperorJake> [TXT] docs/readme.txt 11:19:20 <EmperorJake> sed: -e expression #1, char 26: invalid reference on `s' command's RHS 11:19:20 <Brot6> EmperorJake: sed: #1 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/1 "Infrastructure Sharing - Feature #1: Depot switches - #openttdcoop Development Zone" 11:19:22 <EmperorJake> Successfully remade target file `docs/readme.txt'. 11:19:24 <EmperorJake> Must remake target `all'. 11:19:26 <EmperorJake> Successfully remade target file `all'. 11:19:57 <Yexo> EmperorJake: pleaes, next time you have more than say 3 lines to paste, use a pastebin service like http://paste.openttdcoop.org/ 11:20:02 <Yexo> can you paste your makefile there? 11:20:08 <EmperorJake> yes 11:20:24 <EmperorJake> http://pastebin.com/FimHqw36 11:20:36 <Yexo> no no, I mean your complete makefile 11:20:42 <Yexo> not the output of make --debug 11:20:55 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature Request #3035: Increase weight for supplies (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3035#change-7725 11:21:25 <EmperorJake> here is the makefile: http://pastebin.com/LiqsRNp1 11:22:20 <Yexo> and Makefile.config ? 11:24:12 <EmperorJake> yes, here is the config: http://pastebin.com/aa62xTwX 11:26:28 <Yexo> do you have the "scripts/" directory with Makefile_nml etc.? 11:27:06 <EmperorJake> yes 11:28:24 <Yexo> what is the output if you run "make _V="? 11:28:48 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2581:505c96cd3563: Add: Update German translation (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/505c96cd3563 11:29:58 <EmperorJake> http://pastebin.com/BWT3mTx8 11:30:44 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Revision 2582:2623ec782503: Fix: add plural pragma to both German... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/2623ec782503 11:31:07 <Yexo> EmperorJake: are you sure you have scripts/Makefile_nml ? 11:33:38 <EmperorJake> yes, I have scripts/Makefile_nml 11:38:13 <planetmaker> can you tar the dir so I can have a look? 11:38:26 <planetmaker> or zip 11:38:51 <EmperorJake> all of the source? 11:39:00 <planetmaker> yes 11:39:06 <planetmaker> everything 11:40:07 <Terkhen> Yexo: sorry, I forgot that... thanks for adding it :) 11:40:26 <EmperorJake> where do i put it? 11:41:26 <EmperorJake> file:///home/jake/GRF/vactrainset.tar 11:41:50 <EmperorJake> gah, how does the file transfers thing work 11:42:00 <Yexo> just mail it? 11:45:00 <planetmaker> he, thanks, Yexo, too :-) 11:45:20 <planetmaker> I added it. But then I reverted all stuff due to merge conflict. And then happily forgot to re-add it ;-) 11:45:56 <EmperorJake> planetmaker: I emailed it to you. 11:46:05 <planetmaker> which address? ;-) 11:48:40 <EmperorJake> planetmaker@openttd.org' 11:56:18 <planetmaker> well. No e-mail so far :-) 11:56:24 <planetmaker> Are you sending from hotmail? 11:57:03 <EmperorJake> gmail, sorry it took a bit, finally got tt sent. 12:14:32 <EmperorJake> i have to go, bye fior now 12:14:34 *** EmperorJake has quit IRC 13:44:09 <Ammler> why not upload to the repo? ;-) 13:45:06 <Yexo> there is no repo for vactrains 13:45:11 <Terkhen> I have not read the conversation in detail, but probably the point is that he does not know how to do it 13:46:55 <Ammler> Yexo: hmm, then I created another project? 13:47:32 <Yexo> oh, there is one? 13:47:40 <Yexo> I missed it when looking for it 13:47:44 <Ammler> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/vactrainset/repository 15:32:13 <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #2924: Prussian steam engines - sprites (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2924#change-7727 15:33:10 <Terkhen> planetmaker: I'm checking cargo_definition now... ogfx-trains seems to be missing COPR (from PBI) 15:33:41 <planetmaker> hm what cargo is that? 15:33:58 <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #2924: Prussian steam engines - sprites (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2924#change-7729 15:33:59 <Terkhen> processed copper 15:34:07 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 15:34:16 <Terkhen> in ogfx-rv it is used for displaying specific sprites on the flatbeds 15:34:59 <planetmaker> I see 15:36:31 <V453000> why does CETS have so many rotations from which is the train viewed? 15:37:00 <planetmaker> needed for over-long vehicles 15:37:21 <planetmaker> try the test grf and see ;-) 15:37:34 <Terkhen> planetmaker: I'm adding SGCN, SGBT to my cargo_definition now; if you want I can create an issue for ogfx-trains and you can copy the table / do the required changes 15:38:08 <planetmaker> those two are added already. But probably not the copper you mentioned 15:38:19 <planetmaker> a ticket about that would be nice 15:39:12 <Terkhen> yes, what I meant is: "once that my table has all three cargos, you can copy it if you want" 15:39:31 <Terkhen> having identical files makes things simpler; we can diff them :P 15:39:43 <Terkhen> brb 15:39:44 <planetmaker> yes :-) 15:44:03 <V453000> well that looks nice but I would hate to draw it all :D 15:46:53 <V453000> oh wow 15:47:54 <V453000> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20419525/cets_odd.png is this intended? 15:50:10 <planetmaker> that's approx. intended, yes 15:50:16 <planetmaker> and that's the need for that many sprites 15:50:25 <V453000> some of the stages look really weird 15:50:57 <planetmaker> there's a reason we don't call this set anything near finished 15:51:13 <V453000> that is why I ask :p 15:51:22 <planetmaker> but it's rotation in 15° steps 15:51:59 <V453000> I believe you will make it nice in the end :P 15:52:01 <V453000> I have to go, cya 15:52:05 <planetmaker> enjoy 16:05:49 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1663:8ded3c6c460a: Fix: the {G=} set-gender string command should... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/8ded3c6c460a 16:08:48 <hanf> why do these templates have 7 entries for each sprite? http://users.tt-forums.net/pikka/wiki/index.php?title=Sprite_templates 16:08:50 <Terkhen> hmmm... I'm going to use the same sprites for sugar beet and sugar cane 16:10:40 <Yexo> hanf: it's nfo, those entries are (not in this order) xpos, ypos, width, height, x-offset, y-offset, encoding 16:11:12 <hanf> ahh okay 16:11:52 <hanf> thanks 16:15:22 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Road Vehicles - Revision 111:6b92629e9b10: Add: Support for Sugar Cane and Sugar Beet. (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-rv/repository/revisions/6b92629e9b10 16:17:00 <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Bug #3036 (New): Missing support for Copper (COPR) (Terkhen) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3036 16:17:04 <Terkhen> there 16:17:31 <planetmaker> ty :-) 16:19:54 <Terkhen> :) 16:21:14 <hanf> nml is pretty cool 16:21:35 <Terkhen> indeed :) 16:21:47 <Terkhen> I wouldn't be doing NewGRFs if nml wasn't around 16:21:52 <Terkhen> planetmaker: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2991 <--- should I go ahead with this? 16:22:30 <Terkhen> although maybe I should add text to the buy vehicle list to clarify this 16:23:08 <planetmaker> giving refrigerated truck a bonus for food wrt aging? yes, why not :-) 16:23:23 <Terkhen> no, it gives everything else a penalty for refrigerated cargos :P 16:24:06 <planetmaker> hm? You want to go for the penalty solution? 16:24:36 <planetmaker> I'd not like that ;-) 16:24:53 <planetmaker> as it'd make it not work too well with other grfs which don't employ this (yet) 16:25:25 <Terkhen> that's a good point 16:25:44 <Terkhen> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2991 <--- but the current way was your idea :P 16:25:56 <planetmaker> current way? 16:26:06 <Terkhen> penalty for refrigerated cargos 16:26:13 <Terkhen> in everything else :) 16:26:56 <planetmaker> My suggestion - has changed: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2991#note-7 16:27:34 <planetmaker> I think we discussed it back then? 16:28:52 <Terkhen> sorry, brb 16:37:40 <Terkhen> ah, I see 16:38:02 <Terkhen> well, that code is simpler :) 16:38:18 <Terkhen> I'll look into adding some text explaining what refrigeration does 16:38:24 <planetmaker> yup. That's an additional advantage 16:41:33 <Terkhen> what value should I use? right now cargo decays every 185 ticks... maybe 250? 16:44:14 <planetmaker> @calc 185*1.1 16:44:14 <Webster> planetmaker: 203.5 16:44:20 <planetmaker> @calc 250/185 16:44:20 <Webster> planetmaker: 1.35135135135 16:44:30 <planetmaker> that's a 35% advantage 16:44:35 <planetmaker> even more in earnings 16:45:01 <Terkhen> hmm... true 16:45:04 <Terkhen> 1.1 sounds better 16:47:38 <planetmaker> ok, let's try that then :-) 16:51:17 * Terkhen tests 16:59:16 <V453000> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/documents/1 which one do I need for photoshop on windows to make png with DOS palette? 16:59:38 <planetmaker> the one which says so? 16:59:39 <V453000> pal_win_png.act - Photoshop palette Windows (for png files) (768 Bytes) I can see just this which seems to be windows palette, right? 17:00:00 <planetmaker> might be that there's no DOS... 17:00:19 <planetmaker> but there's photoshop-ttd-dos.act 17:00:29 <V453000> ok :) thank you 17:01:52 <V453000> hmm, for all toyland sprites I need toyland palette? 17:03:12 <planetmaker> makes sense. I'm not sure where they actually differ 17:03:27 <Terkhen> Refrigerated: 1022€, Not refrigerated: 1016€ <--- it seems barely noticeable... and it is not a 1,1 increment 17:04:29 <Terkhen> http://devs.openttd.org/~terkhen/patches/index.php?source=ogfx-rv_refrigerated.diff <-- maybe I'm doing something wrong? 17:04:41 <V453000> Okay, so if I have same vehicles for all climates including toyland, I need to have different sprites - one in general DOS palette and one in toyland dos palette? 17:06:59 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:09:31 <V453000> pm? ^ please :) 17:10:28 <planetmaker> afaik should work without. But as said: I don't know where they differ 17:10:30 <planetmaker> find out 17:10:35 <planetmaker> use ttdviewer 17:11:02 <V453000> I think it is just water 17:11:35 <V453000> no toyland water is in the normal palette too it seems 17:11:45 <V453000> no clue ... lets see how it works out :) Thanks 17:13:13 <Brot6> nml: update from r1662 to r1663 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/r1663 17:13:17 <frosch123> water looks different in toyland and normal climate 17:13:24 <frosch123> you can switch that in the ttdviewer menu 17:13:34 <frosch123> same indices, different colour 17:17:42 <V453000> ok, so basically until my trains have water in them, I can use normal dos palette for toyland trains? 17:18:35 <frosch123> if a tool cares about the difference of toyland and normal palette, then it is a silly tool :p 17:18:44 <frosch123> (sorry if i offended someone :p ) 17:18:53 <V453000> ok :) 17:19:25 <planetmaker> who'd be offended by that? ;-) 17:21:16 <frosch123> no idea about the members of the set of tools i described :) 17:21:55 <planetmaker> :-P 17:24:43 <Brot6> firs: update from r2577 to r2582 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/nightlies/r2582 17:27:27 <Brot6> opengfx: update from r732 to r733 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/nightlies/r733 17:28:56 <Brot6> Example NewGRF Project - Bug #3037 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3037 17:31:48 <Brot6> ogfx-rv: update from r110 to r111 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-rv/nightlies/r111 17:33:41 <Brot6> airportsplus: update from r144 to r145 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/airportsplus/nightlies/r145 17:33:44 <Brot6> Following repos didn't need a nightlies update: ogfx-trains (r252), narvs (r52), bros (r52), ogfx-industries (r123), ailib-tile (r16), foobarstramtracks (r23), transrapidtrackset (r28), 2cctrainset (r750), cets (r145), ailib-list (r32), opensfx (r97), ttdviewer (r34), worldairlinersset (r672), heqs (r640), openmsx (r97), basecosts (r25), nutracks (r208), nml (r1663), water-features (r51), 32bpp-extra (r40), manindu (r7), ailib-direction 17:33:44 <Brot6> (r17), ailib-common (r21), snowlinemod (r49), dutchtramset (r87), ai-admiralai (r75), swisstowns (r22), metrotrackset (r56), dutchroadfurniture (r12), spanishtowns (r10), frenchtowns (r6), grfpack (r279), fish (r684), ogfx-landscape (r85), ttrs (r36), ogfx-trees (r51), swedishrails (r206), grfcodec (r833), ai-aroai (r49), german-townnames (r34), smts (r19), chips (r143), belarusiantowns (r8), indonesiantowns (r41), ailib-string (r29), 17:33:46 <Brot6> comic-houses (r71) 17:41:33 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:44:52 <Brot6> newgrf_makefile: compile of r313 still failed (#3037) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/newgrf_makefile/nightlies/ERROR/r313 17:54:32 <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: ogfx-trains, narvs (11 warnings) (Diffsize: 7113), ogfx-industries (1 warnings) (Diffsize: 127939), foobarstramtracks (Diffsize: 11458), cets (475 warnings), manindu (Diffsize: 2), dutchtramset (Diffsize: 25964), swisstowns, dutchroadfurniture (Diffsize: 4509), spanishtowns (Diffsize: 2), frenchtowns, ogfx-landscape (1 warnings), swedishrails 17:54:32 <Brot6> (Diffsize: 1350), german-townnames (Diffsize: 1), belarusiantowns (Diffsize: 30), indonesiantowns (1 warnings) (Diffsize: 1) 17:59:58 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 18:51:50 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:57:28 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 19:00:43 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:02:45 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 19:13:07 <Brot6> clientpatches: compile of r22901 still failed (#2964) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/clientpatches/testing/ERROR/r22901 19:22:58 <Brot6> Dutch Road Furniture - Revision 14:7cc5fa723aec: Change: ignore image dir (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchroadfurniture/repository/revisions/7cc5fa723aec 19:22:58 <Brot6> Dutch Road Furniture - Revision 15:a0aea1cdad74: Feature: hard shoulder for south inside corner (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchroadfurniture/repository/revisions/a0aea1cdad74 19:22:58 <Brot6> Dutch Road Furniture - Revision 16:d9e6279c64fd: Feature: hard shoulder for north inside corner (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchroadfurniture/repository/revisions/d9e6279c64fd 19:22:59 <Brot6> Dutch Road Furniture - Revision 17:d40dada1f8c6: Feature: hard shoulder for east inside corner (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchroadfurniture/repository/revisions/d40dada1f8c6 19:23:03 <Brot6> Dutch Road Furniture - Revision 18:86e7e96830bd: Feature: hard shoulder for west inside corner (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchroadfurniture/repository/revisions/86e7e96830bd 19:23:09 <Brot6> Dutch Road Furniture - Revision 19:b6c554565958: Codechange: remove an unnecessary STORE_TEMP (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchroadfurniture/repository/revisions/b6c554565958 19:25:24 <hanf> someone - I think it was Yexo - said the templates on a wiki included an encoding for nfo - which order were the coordinates? I'm referring to http://users.tt-forums.net/pikka/wiki/index.php?title=Sprite_templates#forwards_6 19:25:58 <Yexo> hanf: what are you trying to do? 19:26:07 <hanf> draw a sprite ingame 19:26:11 <hanf> according to that template 19:26:34 <Brot6> openttd-vehiclevars: update from r22896 to r22901 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/openttd-vehiclevars/testing/r22901 19:27:21 <Yexo> see http://www.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NFOTutorial for an NFO tutorial 19:27:39 <Yexo> although I'd highly advise you to start with NML instead, and follow http://www.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NMLTutorial 19:28:05 <hanf> it's not nfo, it's NML, but the coordinates ingame would be the same wouldn't they? 19:28:10 <Yexo> that means you can't directly use those templates you gave, although similar ones are http://www.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NMLTutorial 19:28:28 <Yexo> // Format: spritenum pcxfile xpos ypos compression ysize xsize xrel yrel <- that's the order in nfo 19:28:59 <Yexo> nml uses: xpos, ypos, xsize, ysize, xrel, yrel 19:29:48 <hanf> ahhh that's not what you said earlier I don't think :D thanks I'll shuffle some numbers around 19:30:10 <Yexo> earlier I just said what the things were and not the correct order 19:30:26 <Yexo> now I looked it up for you 19:30:26 <hanf> aha alright 19:30:39 <Brot6> serverpatches: compile of r22901 still failed (#2966) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/serverpatches/testing/ERROR/r22901 19:30:42 <hanf> thanks mate, should be alright now 19:34:51 <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: compile of r22901 still failed (#2446) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/32bpp-ez-patches/testing/ERROR/r22901 20:12:59 *** JVassie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:35:46 *** LordAro has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:01:18 *** LordAro has quit IRC 21:26:33 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 21:37:38 *** ODM has quit IRC 21:42:17 *** hanf has quit IRC 22:00:22 *** JVassie has quit IRC 22:13:24 <Brot6> Dutch Road Furniture - Revision 20:dc1efe79925c: Feature: hard shoulder outside corners (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchroadfurniture/repository/revisions/dc1efe79925c 22:13:24 <Brot6> Dutch Road Furniture - Revision 21:693989c71026: Add: GPL notice to source code files (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchroadfurniture/repository/revisions/693989c71026 22:13:24 <Brot6> Dutch Road Furniture - Revision 22:0aeba4d4e3fd: Fix (r13): not all slopes had sloped shoulders (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchroadfurniture/repository/revisions/0aeba4d4e3fd 22:13:28 <Brot6> Dutch Road Furniture - Revision 23:c2b45d192c6b: Doc: prepare for release (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchroadfurniture/repository/revisions/c2b45d192c6b 22:13:32 <Brot6> Dutch Road Furniture - Revision 24:8c683bb523d4: Release: 0.2.0 (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchroadfurniture/repository/revisions/8c683bb523d4 22:16:11 <Brot6> dutchroadfurniture: update from 0.1.0 to 0.2.0 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/dutchroadfurniture/releases/0.2.0 23:15:05 <Brot6> DictatorAI - Revision 192:efef46c81c8c: - Find if route is dual instead of assuming town = dual, ... 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