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Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 17th October 2011:
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00:24:12  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #3105: Länderbahn electric engines and MUs (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3105#change-8343
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08:46:33  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #3168 (New): alternative_sprites set windows palette (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3168
09:51:16  <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Landscape - Revision 94:14d48cf72384: Feature: Snow aware buoy (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-landscape/repository/revisions/14d48cf72384
10:52:40  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #3168 (Closed): alternative_sprites set windows palette (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3168
10:52:40  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1700:e0d31e57df59: Fix #3168: blitter != palette (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/e0d31e57df59
10:52:40  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #3168 (Closed): alternative_sprites set windows palette (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3168#change-8344
10:53:39  <planetmaker> oh, how obscure :-)
11:29:43  <Ammler> I submitted NML to the suse repo and just keep silent about grfcodec, so it should be still available :-)
11:30:39  <Ammler> does openttd.grf build without nforenum?
11:35:27  <planetmaker> that's the same package
11:42:18  <Ammler> well, according to Rubi, only nforenum needs a update if you add graphics
11:42:39  <Ammler> so I wonder, if openttd.grf does also build without this update
11:44:41  <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Industries - Feature Request #3169 (New): Default text for nearby station (alocritani) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3169
11:54:01  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #2924: Prussian steam engines (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2924#change-8345
11:58:04  <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Landscape - Revision 95:4bb26a6eff12: Change: [Makefile] Update to makefile framework r376 (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-landscape/repository/revisions/4bb26a6eff12
11:58:51  <planetmaker> Ammler: but grfcodec and nforenum are from within the same package
11:58:58  <planetmaker> call make once, get both
11:59:48  <planetmaker> and yes, the OpenTTD makefile calls nforenum. Thus if that is not up to date, building might fail. And will fail if you skipped the last release of the grfcodec package
12:00:01  <Ammler> planetmaker: yes, but openttd.grf should also build with an outdated grfcodec, right?
12:00:18  <planetmaker> But nforenum and grfcodec are within the _same_ package
12:00:31  <planetmaker> thus if grfcodec is outdated, nforenum is outdated, too.
12:00:39  <planetmaker> Thus building will fail
12:00:48  <planetmaker> you can _manually_ build it without nforenum
12:01:02  <Ammler> ok
12:01:18  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 267:29d05df44e17: yes i am that stupid (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/29d05df44e17
12:01:18  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 268:3c8432e38684: and you know why? because this sprite sli... (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/3c8432e38684
12:01:37  <Ammler> you mean you can manually build with outdated grfcodec, right?
12:02:09  <planetmaker> yes. If you don't use nforenum, an outdated grfcodec most probably still will compile it
12:02:16  <planetmaker> the build script uses nforenum, though
12:03:13  <Ammler> but that is how you devs work, you update first openttd.grf
12:03:17  <Ammler> then grfcodec
12:03:34  <Ammler> that is why you don't like to use nml
12:03:58  <Ammler> openttd.grf -> grfcodec -> nml -> opengfx
12:04:21  <Ammler> hmm
12:04:51  <planetmaker> the implication "grfcodec -> nml" is not valid
12:05:12  <Ammler> well, that is workflow
12:05:28  <Ammler> important is you do update grfcodec after openttd.grf
12:05:43  <Ammler> which I do not really believe :-P
12:07:06  <Brot6> cets: update from r265 to r268 done (621 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/push/r268
12:07:34  <planetmaker> that depends whether nforenum warns or fails
12:07:41  <planetmaker> if it just warns... no problem
12:07:58  <planetmaker> and you can happily compare the commit times of features to openttd and to grfcodec
12:08:03  <Ammler> ah, and nml would fail in every case?
12:08:07  <planetmaker> yes
12:08:57  <planetmaker> it has no intrinsic means to define a new action5 entry to to extend an existing one. It checks for them more rigerously
12:09:14  <planetmaker> Same with action0 properties. They need explicit declaration
12:09:24  <planetmaker> only variables can be worked around with NML
12:11:21  <planetmaker> Maybe that's something for NML to allow in the future. But I'm not even sure it would be good
12:11:49  <Ammler> after you know that, would you still convert ogfx to nml?
12:13:30  <Ammler> well, we will see how well the next extending works :-)
12:14:29  <planetmaker> I knew all this before
12:14:38  <Ammler> grfcodec updates are ok, but it is a bit annoying, if the build script changes
12:14:49  <Ammler> and If I need to do that just do build openttd anymore
12:14:58  <planetmaker> is there any reason to change grfcodec build scriptsß
12:15:00  <planetmaker> ?
12:15:22  <Ammler> well, the last change was removing "-source"
12:15:36  <Ammler> else you make a simple sed
12:16:46  <Ammler> but last time I did that for opengfx, so it is ok :-)
12:17:11  <Ammler> next time, I need to do it just for originals
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12:33:18  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #3105: Länderbahn electric engines and MUs (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3105#change-8347
12:41:01  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #3105: Länderbahn electric engines and MUs (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3105#change-8348
14:32:26  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #3105: Länderbahn electric engines and MUs (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3105#change-8349
14:36:10  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 269:d6eb10f7580b: add: EG 511 graphics (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/d6eb10f7580b
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14:41:04  <Brot6> cets: update from r268 to r269 done (621 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/push/r269
14:51:42  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #3105: Länderbahn electric engines and MUs (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3105#change-8351
14:54:54  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #3105: Länderbahn electric engines and MUs (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3105#change-8352
14:56:52  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #3105: Länderbahn electric engines and MUs (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3105#change-8352
15:02:23  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 270:5abb70df06da: change: actually use EG 511 DR graphics (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/5abb70df06da
15:06:43  <Brot6> cets: update from r269 to r270 done (621 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/push/r270
15:17:26  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 271:809b1288bbcc: update: language file and readme (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/809b1288bbcc
15:19:07  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Bug #3170 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3170
15:22:22  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 272:216224f447a9: fix: WordPad doesn't do UTF-8 (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/216224f447a9
15:23:12  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Bug #3170 (Closed): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3170
15:23:12  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Bug #3170 (Closed): DevZone compile failed (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3170#change-8353
15:26:37  <Brot6> cets: update from r270 to r272 done (621 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/push/r272
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15:30:44  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Code Review #3171 (New): Reduce file size (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3171
17:10:59  <Brot6> nml: update from r1699 to r1700 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/r1700
17:12:41  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #3105: Länderbahn electric engines and MUs (Elukka) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3105#change-8355
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17:23:03  <Brot6> cets: update from r262 to r272 done (621 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/nightlies/r272
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17:25:28  <Brot6> fish: update from r692 to r694 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/fish/nightlies/r694
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17:27:07  <Brot6> ogfx-landscape: update from r93 to r95 done (2 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-landscape/nightlies/r95
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17:54:55  <Brot6> vactrainset: compile of r1 still failed (#3044) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/vactrainset/nightlies/ERROR/r1
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18:09:02  <Brot6> Following repos rebuilds successful without any difference to earlier nightlies builds: ogfx-trains (Diffsize: 36135), narvs (11 warnings) (Diffsize: 39), ogfx-industries (1 warnings), firs, opengfx (Diffsize: 7), foobarstramtracks (Diffsize: 37022), manindu (Diffsize: 2), newgrf_makefile, rust (Diffsize: 37), ogfx-biggui, dutchtramset (Diffsize: 25988), swisstowns (Diffsize: 39), dutchroadfurniture (Diffsize: 2045), spanishtowns
18:09:02  <Brot6> (Diffsize: 8), frenchtowns (Diffsize: 21), ogfx-rv (Diffsize: 40), swedishrails (Diffsize: 204), german-townnames (Diffsize: 39), belarusiantowns (Diffsize: 63), indonesiantowns (1 warnings) (Diffsize: 21), airportsplus (Diffsize: 964)
18:41:21  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #3105: Länderbahn electric engines and MUs (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3105#change-8356
18:42:03  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #3105: Länderbahn electric engines and MUs (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3105#change-8356
18:42:53  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #3105: Länderbahn electric engines and MUs (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3105#change-8356
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19:02:45  <Brot6> clientpatches: compile of r23035 still failed (#2964) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/clientpatches/testing/ERROR/r23035
19:04:37  <Brot6> serverpatches: compile of r23035 still failed (#2966) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/serverpatches/testing/ERROR/r23035
19:04:57  <andythenorth> harhoo
19:05:32  <planetmaker> hello andythenorth
19:06:22  <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: compile of r23035 still failed (#2446) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/32bpp-ez-patches/testing/ERROR/r23035
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19:37:35  <Yexo> planetmaker: make install for ogfx-trains is broken
19:37:42  <Yexo> "install: missing file operand"
19:44:58  <planetmaker> hm :S
19:46:08  <planetmaker> Yexo: 0.2.5 or trunk?
19:46:17  <Yexo> trunk
19:46:21  <Yexo> r252
19:49:08  <planetmaker> hm... peculiar
19:49:24  <planetmaker> both make and (a subsequent) make install worked without error for me
19:49:28  <planetmaker> on a clean checkout
19:51:11  <planetmaker> can you tell me more, Yexo?
19:51:17  <Yexo> just trying again
19:51:26  <planetmaker> maybe via "make _V="
20:00:25  <Yexo> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/649/
20:02:21  <Yexo> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/650/ <_ from Makefile.bundles
20:02:24  <Yexo> that looks wrong
20:02:34  <Yexo> the last few lines assume INSTALLDIR is not set, but the 3rd line uses it
20:02:46  <Yexo> hmm, sorry
20:02:54  <Yexo> INSTALLDIR != INSTALL_DIR
20:03:06  <planetmaker> yes, I know
20:03:12  <planetmaker> that's why the ifdef is there
20:03:44  <planetmaker> hm... maybe your system is not detected
20:03:53  <Yexo> that's what I was just thinking
20:03:57  <planetmaker> and thus INSTALL_DIR not properly set
20:04:06  <Yexo> CYGWIN_NT-6.1-WOW64 Zeus 1.7.9(0.237/5/3) 2011-03-29 10:10 i686 Cygwin <- output from 'uname -a'
20:05:04  <planetmaker> that's not recognized
20:05:14  <planetmaker> so far
20:05:48  <Yexo> wouldn't it be better to special case all other systems first and use what is currently "Linux" as default all undetected ones (including linux)?
20:07:08  <planetmaker> yes, that's probably a good idea
20:09:02  <planetmaker> that means cygwin behaves like linux with paths, yes?
20:11:21  <planetmaker> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/651/ <-- does that then work for you, Yexo?
20:12:05  <planetmaker> and it uses actually uname -s instead of uname -a
20:12:29  <Yexo> actually that won't work, since the cygwin home dir is not my windows "My dorucments"
20:12:48  <Yexo> it really needs a special check for cygwin and install in one of the windows dirs
20:13:14  <planetmaker> ok, which is the correct paths and the output of uname -s?
20:13:39  <Yexo> CYGWIN_NT-6.1-WOW64 <- uname -s
20:13:52  <Yexo> correct path depends on windows version, as above
20:14:41  <planetmaker> uh... that's a bulky uname. And sounds like there's many more cygwins
20:14:57  <planetmaker> ah, ok
20:15:12  <Yexo> path names should be the same as windows but with forward slashes
20:15:28  <Yexo> instead of "C:" the preferred way might be "/cygdrive/c/"
20:15:31  <Yexo> but both work
20:17:39  <planetmaker> bah... cygwin really mis-handles how to use -s :-(
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20:19:10  <Yexo> it's no big issue
20:19:16  <Yexo> building works, that's important
20:20:18  <planetmaker> well, but it'd be nice to have a nice way and "out of box" :-)
20:21:13  <planetmaker> hm... seeing my cut on MinGW it does the same kind of thing, though
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20:27:19  <planetmaker> Yexo: which of the two paths I define there, is the correct one for you? C:\Users\Public\Documents\OpenTTD\data$(PROJECT_NAME) ?
20:27:57  <Yexo> for me C:\Users\Public...
20:28:00  <planetmaker> ok
20:28:03  <planetmaker> thx
20:28:11  <Yexo> but it only works if you write it as C:/Users/Public/Do....
20:28:21  <planetmaker> eh?
20:28:24  <planetmaker> not with \ ?
20:29:24  <Yexo> cygwin is a linux-like environment
20:29:42  <Yexo> the \ is an escape character
20:30:59  <planetmaker> hm... ok. I guess then I can also use /cygdrive/c/Users/Public/...
20:31:08  <planetmaker> if that's better
20:31:23  <Yexo> that's the normal way to write paths in cygwin
20:35:28  <planetmaker> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/652/ <-- does that work?
20:52:14  <michi_cc> planetmaker: cygpath -A -O
20:53:00  <michi_cc> Returns 'My documents' on the 'All Users' context, /cygdrive/f/Users/Public/Documents on my machine for example.
20:53:56  <michi_cc> Help of cygpath: http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/653/
20:55:22  <planetmaker> hm, probably a good idea :-)
20:58:40  <planetmaker> Though contrary to normal install usage I install it in the current user's openttd dir only
20:59:11  <planetmaker> (as usually no-one who uses this will need an install into system dirs)
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21:00:55  <planetmaker> http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/installdir_rework.diff <-- does it work, Yexo?
21:01:58  <Yexo> it fails to apply to ogfx-trains with -p2
21:03:10  <michi_cc> planetmaker: Why not into Public for cygwin (i.e. -A as well)?
21:03:26  <planetmaker> can you write ther without sudo?
21:03:40  <Yexo> there is no "sudo" in cygwin
21:04:18  <planetmaker> I don't really mind either dir as default. What do you prefer?
21:04:35  <michi_cc> planetmaker: You assume so for the normal win case. But yes, you can, that's the whole point of the Public "user" :)
21:05:04  <planetmaker> I see :-)
21:09:21  <planetmaker> http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/ogfx-make-update.diff <-- quite a bit larger, but a full update of the makefile framework
21:10:08  <planetmaker> Yexo: with -p2 ?
21:10:15  <planetmaker> why not as usual with -p1 ?
21:10:26  <Yexo> a/common/scripts/Makefile.bundles <- because there is a /common/ directory in there too
21:10:35  <planetmaker> oh
21:10:36  <Yexo> which is not in the ogfx-trains repo
21:10:50  <planetmaker> yep :-)
21:11:08  <planetmaker> I forgot that I restructured the makefile framework's dirs
21:14:13  <Yexo> works fine :)
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21:18:05  <planetmaker> sweet. Thanks for testing
21:18:43  <planetmaker> hm, does it really work fine?
21:21:22  <Brot6> OpenGFX+ Trains - Revision 253:183c0767e782: Change: [Makefile] Update to makefile framework r377 (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-trains/repository/revisions/183c0767e782
21:21:30  <Brot6> Example NewGRF Project - Revision 377:128bcdc1704c: Change: Rework install paths and include a de... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/newgrf-makefile/repository/revisions/128bcdc1704c
21:50:59  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #3105: Länderbahn electric engines and MUs (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3105#change-8357
21:53:31  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #3105: Länderbahn electric engines and MUs (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3105#change-8357
21:54:49  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #3105: Länderbahn electric engines and MUs (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3105#change-8357
21:58:38  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #3105: Länderbahn electric engines and MUs (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3105#change-8358
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22:04:18  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 273:af426fee61fb: fix: ET 85 roofs in horizontal views (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/af426fee61fb
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22:09:39  <Brot6> cets: update from r272 to r273 done (621 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/push/r273
22:16:46  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Support #2750: Tracking Table (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2750#change-8359
22:16:46  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 274:6fa78731d9d4: Add: Enforce minimum OpenTTD version requ... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/6fa78731d9d4
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22:21:52  <Brot6> cets: update from r273 to r274 done (621 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/push/r274
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22:49:25  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Support #2750: Tracking Table (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2750#change-8360
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23:45:54  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Support #2750: Tracking Table (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2750#change-8361
23:57:27  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Support #2750: Tracking Table (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2750#change-8361

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