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00:00:56 *** hanf has quit IRC 00:27:11 <Brot6> NewGRF Viewer - Revision 22:f08d3a11cf62: Many changes, mostly to support editing. Editing implem... (UnicycleBloke) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/newgrf-viewer/repository/revisions/f08d3a11cf62 00:27:11 <Brot6> NewGRF Viewer - Revision 23:5da50521307e: Tidied up compiler warnings - mostly unused parameters. (UnicycleBloke) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/newgrf-viewer/repository/revisions/5da50521307e 00:32:48 *** Zuu has quit IRC 01:15:29 *** JVassie_ has quit IRC 06:48:37 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:03:16 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 07:32:07 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:39:31 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:02:48 *** Zuu has quit IRC 09:19:56 *** JVassie_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 09:20:48 *** ODM has quit IRC 10:37:40 *** agaran has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 10:37:46 <agaran> hello 10:38:37 <agaran> could anyone tell me if its difficult to adjust one grf (polish rail set) to be compatibile with ecs new cargo types? (especially single-purpose oil car vs oil,fuel,rafination products etc) ? 10:40:21 <planetmaker> depends on where you set the bar. 10:40:53 <planetmaker> But the main problem probably is that the source code of that NewGRF might not be publicly available 10:41:40 <Yexo> "CC-BY-NC-ND v3.0" license from bananas 10:41:59 <Yexo> that means nobody is allowed to distribute deratives, so you're on your own 10:42:55 <planetmaker> indeed. Then the answer is at least "not allowed" 10:43:09 <planetmaker> besides any technical feasibility 10:43:36 <Yexo> your best bet is trying to contact the original authors and get them to fix it 10:48:41 <agaran> well, i thought about making one for my personal use, that should be allowed by this license i think 10:48:51 <agaran> i rather asked for technical problems 10:49:21 <agaran> i don't know anything about grf making, but know some C, perl, asm of few different archs so i guess i can learn one language more 10:50:12 <planetmaker> you might get by writing an add-on NewGRF which modifies selected properties of individual vehicles of the "target" NewGRF 10:50:29 <agaran> so like patch ?;-) 10:50:32 <agaran> i like idea 10:50:33 <planetmaker> http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:Overriding_vehicles_in_other_NewGRFs 10:50:51 <planetmaker> not quite like patch as it'd be a separate NewGRF. But the effect is identical, yes 10:51:22 <planetmaker> you might want to look at the NML tutorial for a first "taste" of the NML NewGRF language: 10:51:42 <agaran> well, patch is separate file until it gets applied :-) only difference is that compilation for grf takes at runtime of openttd i think 10:51:43 <planetmaker> http://www.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NMLTutorial 10:51:48 <agaran> :-) thanks a lot 10:52:12 <planetmaker> you find many NewGRFs source here on the DevZone. Browse also their repos for examples 10:52:56 <Yexo> and make sure to get grf2html to decode the original grf. You'll need to get the vehicle IDs from that grf to know which ones to override 10:53:06 <planetmaker> indeed ^ 10:53:37 <agaran> it don't look so bad, hand decoding asm looks worse really 10:54:34 <agaran> thank you all for pointers and hints 10:54:39 <planetmaker> welcome 10:55:38 <agaran> should i use snapshot or release nml for openttd 1.1.1 ? 10:56:24 <Yexo> please use trunk 10:56:28 <Yexo> the last release is quite old 10:58:50 <Terkhen> nml development is fast :P 11:00:26 <planetmaker> :-) 11:14:00 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:22:49 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:13:18 *** JVassie_ has quit IRC 14:13:43 *** JVassie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 14:13:57 *** JVassie has quit IRC 14:14:09 *** JVassie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:39:36 *** JVassie_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:46:01 *** JVassie has quit IRC 17:02:10 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:19:53 <Brot6> heqs: update from r674 to r677 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/heqs/nightlies/r677 17:22:52 <Brot6> vactrainset: compile of r1 still failed (#3044) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/vactrainset/nightlies/ERROR/r1 17:44:36 *** JVassie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:51:31 *** JVassie_ has quit IRC 17:55:23 *** agaran has quit IRC 17:56:53 *** agaran has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:02:29 <Brot6> clientpatches: compile of r23083 still failed (#2964) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/clientpatches/testing/ERROR/r23083 19:04:18 <Brot6> serverpatches: compile of r23083 still failed (#2966) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/serverpatches/testing/ERROR/r23083 19:06:26 <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: compile of r23083 still failed (#2446) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/32bpp-ez-patches/testing/ERROR/r23083 19:23:08 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:05:48 *** JVassie has quit IRC 20:06:42 *** JVassie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:20:08 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 20:45:05 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:53:06 *** JVassie_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:55:37 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 20:56:32 *** JVassie has quit IRC 21:01:46 *** JVassie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:06:31 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:08:03 *** JVassie_ has quit IRC 21:16:10 *** JVassie_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:23:02 *** JVassie has quit IRC 21:25:34 *** JVassie_ has quit IRC 21:30:06 *** JVassie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:37:30 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Bug #3196: Fix lighting where it's easy / noticeably wrong (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3196#change-8452 21:41:08 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Revision 678:6feb65c49a19: Feature: improved lighting on Gmund Mog (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/heqs/repository/revisions/6feb65c49a19 21:42:58 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Bug #3196: Fix lighting where it's easy / noticeably wrong (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3196#change-8452 21:47:05 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Bug #3196: Fix lighting where it's easy / noticeably wrong (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3196#change-8452 21:47:49 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Bug #3196: Fix lighting where it's easy / noticeably wrong (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3196#change-8452 22:00:05 <Brot6> HEQS "Heavy Equipment" Set - Bug #3196: Fix lighting where it's easy / noticeably wrong (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3196#change-8452 22:09:10 * Rubidium hopes you won't get angry at me for saying you might consider providing some services for chill's patchpack ;) 22:10:56 *** Zuu has quit IRC 22:23:00 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:42:11 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 23:10:31 *** JVassie has quit IRC