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Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 16th December 2011:
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00:54:11  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 386:e026af54d2ec: list unused IDs after the script run (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/e026af54d2ec
00:54:11  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 387:068a7dcb05ce: move writing properties to a function (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/068a7dcb05ce
00:54:11  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 388:a0460b852be4: move writing articulated callback to a fu... (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/a0460b852be4
00:54:13  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 389:593a52ccca86: move writing purchase text to a function (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/593a52ccca86
00:54:17  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 390:f3252966b330: move writing callbacks to a function (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/f3252966b330
00:54:23  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 391:e8d712ab657f: move writing graphics to a function (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/e8d712ab657f
00:54:27  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 392:d0e320dde2ab: ensure correct variable scope (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/d0e320dde2ab
00:54:30  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 393:d42251da6c12: use proper constant for articulated callback (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/d42251da6c12
00:54:34  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 394:925d38805753: remove warning about articulated ids (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/925d38805753
01:02:25  <Brot6> cets: update from r385 to r394 done (217 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/push/r394
01:07:58  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #2987: glitch with food processor (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2987#change-8826
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07:54:16  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #2987: glitch with food processor (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2987#change-8827
07:56:24  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #2987: glitch with food processor (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2987#change-8827
07:57:52  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #2987: glitch with food processor (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2987#change-8827
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08:32:40  <V453000> hm, it might be a stupid question, but: I have a dual headed engine, but I want the rear head to look differently. Is that somehow doable through livery override of the rear head, or is there some other way?
08:39:42  <planetmaker> I'd try the variable vehicle_is_reversed
08:40:10  <planetmaker> and no, livery overrides are not what you want
08:40:52  <planetmaker> livery overrides are only useful if you want one wagon to look differently when attached to one engine or another
09:18:32  <planetmaker> V453000: also wrt your wagons: if you define your own wagon, you don't need the livery override (if that's what you did to create the screenshot)
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09:50:05  <V453000> planetmaker: in the screenshot there even are all engines and engines have livery override same as wagons :)
09:50:33  <V453000> I did define my own wagon, but it still is a passenger wagon not only for the cat, but also for "normal" pax monorail trains
09:52:58  <V453000> which brought me to another weird thing, but that sometime later probably :)
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12:58:45  <V453000> hm, how to actually use the vehicle_is_reversed variable? I guess I need something to define that the custom looking rear has to be there under circumstance of vehicle_is_reversed being 1
12:58:46  <V453000> but how
13:06:44  <V453000> is something like this a valid idea? http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/843/ though the 0 1 seems to say that it is not supported in a switch-block .. :)
13:09:49  <planetmaker> the brackets are wrong
13:09:56  <planetmaker> 0: spriteset_blah;
13:10:29  <V453000> I did it even without brackets firstly
13:10:51  <V453000> oh even those
13:10:51  <V453000> :o
13:11:16  <V453000> yeyy :)
13:11:18  <planetmaker> I suggest you take a look at the NML tutorial ;-)
13:11:20  <V453000> thank you :)
13:11:23  <planetmaker> yw
13:12:14  <V453000> I gather info from http://hg.openttdcoop.org/nml/raw-file/bdf2927bfbdd/docs/nml-language.html#block-switch this thing
13:12:19  <V453000> or around there :)
13:14:05  <planetmaker> ehm... don't
13:14:25  <V453000> hm, I guess the vehicle_is_reversed does not apply for the back end of a dualhead
13:14:27  <planetmaker> http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:Main and http://www.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NMLTutorial
13:14:41  <planetmaker> you're looking at way outdated documentation
13:15:43  <V453000> and from there too :) Thank you I will try to read through it
13:16:05  <planetmaker> don't use the link you quoted, though
13:16:16  <V453000> ok :)
13:16:16  <planetmaker> everything from there was moved to the first one I quoted
13:16:35  <V453000> guess I just randomly found that there :)
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13:40:52  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 395:84e52e34e309: add new script file for the various tables (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/84e52e34e309
13:40:52  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 396:1d2c4dca3a5b: move speed_translation table to tables.py (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/1d2c4dca3a5b
13:40:52  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 397:79b6c407473f: move cargo_classes to tables.py (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/79b6c407473f
13:40:54  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 398:ef9af041b7fe: move usages to tables.py and rename to us... (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/ef9af041b7fe
13:40:58  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 399:bc9d489b05e8: move recolour_maps to tables.py (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/bc9d489b05e8
13:41:02  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 400:6fe01f1a2360: move companies to tables.py (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/6fe01f1a2360
13:48:55  <Brot6> cets: update from r394 to r400 done (217 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/push/r400
13:50:07  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 401:3482523f52b0: slightly reformat the sorting function (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/3482523f52b0
13:55:23  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 402:f225d33a05ba: slightly reformat the other sort function (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/f225d33a05ba
13:58:03  <Brot6> cets: update from r400 to r401 done (217 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/push/r401
14:03:55  <Brot6> cets: update from r401 to r402 done (217 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/push/r402
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14:33:22  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 403:561ac502bf50: move write functions to a separate file (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/561ac502bf50
14:33:22  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 404:01782a691ce3: move make_avails helper function to write.py (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/01782a691ce3
14:33:22  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 405:74a919dfe3ca: make some dynamic tables accessible throu... (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/74a919dfe3ca
14:33:24  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 406:7457f72efd13: move 'warning' and 'error' helper functio... (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/7457f72efd13
14:33:28  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 407:a371e10037de: move graphics parser setup to an own file (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/a371e10037de
14:41:17  <Brot6> cets: update from r402 to r407 done (217 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/push/r407
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15:15:27  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Bug #3189: Wrong Speed TRAXX (Transportman) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3189#change-8828
15:26:27  <V453000> hm I dont understand how does the train_is_reversed works. It only works for the tail of the train, but does not do anything with the "head" engine
15:27:11  <V453000> and even that it does only when the engine is going to one exact direction
15:27:44  <Ammler> planetmaker: you should ask him, where he got that link from
15:28:03  <V453000> the evil google Ammler :p
15:28:35  <Ammler> you used google to search for nml docs?
15:28:42  <Ammler> cool :-)
15:29:04  <V453000> yes :D
15:29:18  <V453000> the wiki didnt seem to give me the results I wanted :)
15:34:35  <planetmaker> V453000: what did you search for?
15:34:44  <planetmaker> The first two hits are the official docs and the official tutorial
15:34:56  <planetmaker> the 4th is... that link
15:35:19  <planetmaker> but that might differ for localization
15:35:38  <Ammler> if you find such hg links, replace the hash with tip
15:35:49  <V453000> unsure, probably something like "openttd nml" and then something exact probably include, spritegroup or livery override
15:36:14  <Ammler> hen you would see, that the file is gone
15:38:28  <V453000> hm, the vehicle_is_reversed looks like it is the Shunting or how is that called ... when a train reverses when it gets in a dead end. When I release the train from the depot, it is not reversed (therefore redrawn anywhere). When I send it into a dead end reverser, the head gets re-drawn (not tail)
15:42:00  <V453000> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20419525/Mendingworth%20Falls%20Transport%2C%202100-06-21.png very weird :| http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/844/
15:43:15  <V453000> with dual headed on, neither of the ends got replaced with the switch at all
15:43:30  <planetmaker> then use http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/VariationalAction2/Vehicles#Position_and_length_.2840.2C_41.29
15:44:19  <V453000> ooh
15:47:22  <V453000> thanks so much :)
15:50:38  <V453000> that works! :) Wonderful
16:49:52  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3368: SLT emu (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3368#change-8829
17:01:27  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3368: SLT emu (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3368#change-8830
17:07:31  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3368: SLT emu (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3368#change-8831
17:24:02  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3368 (Feedback): SLT emu (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3368#change-8832
17:24:02  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3368: SLT emu (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3368#change-8833
17:26:37  <Brot6> cets: update from r385 to r407 done (217 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/nightlies/r407
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17:29:00  <Brot6> bandit: compile of r26 still failed (#3303) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/bandit/nightlies/ERROR/r26
17:30:20  <Brot6> dutchtramset: compile of r87 still failed (#3355) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/dutchtramset/nightlies/ERROR/r87
17:31:15  <Brot6> ogfx-rv: compile of r141 still failed (#3356) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-rv/nightlies/ERROR/r141
17:31:57  <Brot6> ogfx-landscape: compile of r110 still failed (#3357) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/ogfx-landscape/nightlies/ERROR/r110
17:33:08  <Brot6> airportsplus: compile of r148 still failed (#3358) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/airportsplus/nightlies/ERROR/r148
17:46:07  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3368: SLT emu (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3368#change-8834
18:33:05  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Bug #3369 (New): r88 depot sprites alignment (Transportman) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3369
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18:38:23  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Bug #3370 (New): Trains lost between r86 and r88 (Transportman) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3370
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19:03:09  <Brot6> clientpatches: compile of r23547 still failed (#2964) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/clientpatches/testing/ERROR/r23547
19:05:05  <Brot6> serverpatches: compile of r23547 still failed (#2966) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/serverpatches/testing/ERROR/r23547
19:07:01  <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: compile of r23547 still failed (#2446) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/32bpp-ez-patches/testing/ERROR/r23547
19:14:18  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 867:ceebcfcdae9b: Codechange: Obtain all sprites of the food processing plant ... (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/ceebcfcdae9b
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23:09:50  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #2987: glitch with food processor (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2987#change-8835
23:10:26  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #2987: glitch with food processor (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2987#change-8835
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23:51:36  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #3321 (Closed): Wrong buoy displayed in toyland (PaulC) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3321
23:51:36  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 868:a228033a99d5: Fix #3321: Wrong buoy type in toyland climate (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/opengfx/repository/revisions/a228033a99d5
23:51:36  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #3321 (Closed): Wrong buoy displayed in toyland (planetmaker) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3321#change-8836

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