Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 24th December 2011:
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00:06:21  <Brot6> cets: update from r439 to r440 done (217 warnings) -
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00:15:32  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 441:f5ac5d440b79: also set the min compatible version (Eddi) @
00:25:58  <Brot6> cets: update from r440 to r441 done (217 warnings) -
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10:01:57  <Brot6> openttd.grf water-features - rivers_diagonal.png (andythenorth) @
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10:27:29  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #3395 (New): Flashing roadworks (PaulC) @
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10:49:45  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #3395: Flashing roadworks (planetmaker) @
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11:28:06  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Revision 876:7fa1b9b9ede5: Added tag 0.4.0 for changeset 2861dd4d4c1d (planetmaker) @
11:29:43  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #3314 (Closed): Ù (capital U with grave) appearing wrong (planetmaker) @
11:32:43  <planetmaker> Rubidium: fyi: I branched now OpenGFX 0.4. This 0.4. branch will continue to support all OpenTTD version which have base sets so far
11:33:19  <Rubidium> lovely
11:33:21  <planetmaker> With the 0.5 onward, I'll make a cut, change to DOS palette, newgrf v8 and remove support for 1.1 and earlier
11:33:44  <planetmaker> removing quite a bit of code in the extra grf
11:34:05  <planetmaker> it's starting to get bloated ;-)
11:35:22  <planetmaker> and then we can also solve ammler's fear to need support two stable nml releases ;-)
11:35:23  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #3395: Flashing roadworks (PaulC) @
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11:53:09  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #3396 (New): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @
11:57:48  <Rubidium> when it actually 0.4.0 due (as in built)?
11:57:54  <Rubidium> s/t/s/
11:58:07  <planetmaker> should be now
11:59:07  <planetmaker> hmpf. devzone put into 'ERROR' for ... not exactly good reasons
11:59:30  <planetmaker>
12:03:16  <planetmaker> hm...
12:05:25  <planetmaker> uploaded to bananas, Rubidium
12:11:18  <Ammler> planetmaker: why should it fail because of that, what does it mean at all?
12:11:37  <planetmaker> that's what I wonder. It's a file which is created during build
12:12:12  <planetmaker> I simply linked the 0.4.0 as built from error to the usual path as I can't fix that today anymore
12:12:13  <Ammler> maybe you forgot to cleanup it
12:12:23  <Ammler> but that does not trigger failed build
12:12:43  <planetmaker> it does. The md5sums of the CF build are the same as mine. And my local build works fine
12:13:15  <Ammler> 40
12:13:17  <Ammler> hg st 1>> ../%{name}/%{name}-%{version}-build.err.log" target="_blank">build.err.log 2>>../%{name}/%{name}-%{version}-build.err.log" target="_blank">build.err.log
12:13:18  <Ammler> 41
12:13:20  <Ammler> [[ $(hg st -m) ]] && exit
12:13:25  <planetmaker> ?
12:14:28  <Ammler> ah no, the issue is, it is missing in the .hgignore, possible?
12:14:51  <Ammler> planetmaker: I mean, that file does not trigger failed build
12:14:58  <planetmaker> yes, it's not in .hgignore most probable
12:15:51  <Ammler> you really wanna release despite not knowing, why it failed?
12:18:14  <planetmaker> Yes. Also too late for that.
12:19:26  <planetmaker> Not that I'm happy about that now :S
12:22:14  <Ammler> I don't see why it failed either, I will run a debug on the server
12:22:41  <Ammler> at least the ignore check works :-P
12:23:21  <planetmaker> Ammler: but... I wonder why it would fail. The last nightly  which is virtually identical didn't fail
12:23:43  <Ammler> hmm
12:23:51  <Ammler> has releases a own files file?
12:24:50  <Ammler> hmm, that might be it then
12:26:56  <Ammler> <-- you have nml- in there too
12:28:00  <Ammler> and do not forget, you need to retag, since the CF settings are also version dependend
12:28:10  <Rubidium> planetmaker: pushing 0.4.0 now
12:28:16  <Ammler> Rubidium: don't
12:28:39  <Ammler> or does that not change md5sum?
12:28:43  <Ammler> hmm, might not
12:29:04  <Ammler> (ok, ignore me :-P)
12:29:11  <Rubidium> I'm using the binaries that planetmaker 'pointed' me to
12:30:17  <planetmaker> we'll fix that for the next release, Ammler, as it's really only devzone
12:30:17  <Ammler> yes, the "fix" should not change md5sum, so it should not matter
12:30:33  <Ammler> planetmaker: bullshit, but I should not care
12:30:34  <planetmaker> could you submit the fix, please, so it won't become forgotten?
12:30:39  <planetmaker> mind to use default branch :-)
12:30:45  <planetmaker> hm... maybe also to 0.4
12:31:07  <Ammler> planetmaker: there is no release 0.4.0 on bundles, mind that
12:31:19  <planetmaker> well, there is :-) Just look ;-)
12:31:31  <Ammler> omg, you really messed manually around
12:31:43  <planetmaker> committing that and re-tagging. THAT would change md5sum
12:31:53  <planetmaker> yes, I did
12:32:02  <Ammler> no, should not
12:32:13  <planetmaker> yes, it will. The obg will be different version
12:32:24  <Ammler> hmm, is the hash part of it?
12:32:34  <planetmaker> not the md5sum. But the obg will differ
12:32:40  <planetmaker> Thus do not re-tag.
12:32:42  <Ammler> why?
12:32:52  <planetmaker> as the version is in there? i.e. the hg revision
12:33:20  <Ammler> ah ok
12:34:48  <Ammler> just do not always blame the devzone, if there is an error you do not see right away ;-)
12:35:02  <planetmaker> well...
12:35:22  <planetmaker> I expect the error logs to at least show the error then
12:35:52  <planetmaker> and it's exclusively a devzone issue
12:35:55  <planetmaker> in this case
12:36:06  <Ammler> yes, config issue
12:36:24  <planetmaker> but tell me, why doesn't it trigger for the nighlies?
12:36:36  <planetmaker> different spec for nightly and release?
12:36:37  <Ammler> because the nightlies have a own files file
12:36:41  <Ammler> no
12:36:42  <Ammler> but files
12:36:54  <planetmaker> files...
12:37:06  <Ammler> e.g. nightlies have no .gz source bundle
12:37:33  <Ammler> there might be other differences, dunno
12:38:34  <Ammler> this is part of the repo, you can change that
12:40:11  <planetmaker> yes
12:40:28  <planetmaker> I don't see where that differs between nightly and release, though
12:40:37  <planetmaker> I see exactly one 'files' file.
12:41:11  * Rubidium is gone for the rest of the day... ciao
12:41:24  <planetmaker> ciao, Rubidium. Have a nice Christmas (eve)
12:57:39  <planetmaker> hm, did you submit a bug fix yet, Ammler?
12:58:19  <planetmaker> or will you?
13:09:30  <planetmaker> btw, andythenorth, do you still agree with a christmas release of FIRS? Under the same grfID?
13:09:50  <planetmaker> if no-one prepares it (and you agree), I might do that on 26th
13:10:29  <planetmaker> including brief polishing and doc review
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13:20:00  <Brot6> OpenGFX - Bug #3396: DevZone compile failed (planetmaker) @
13:35:01  <andythenorth> planetmaker: it would be nice to release something
13:35:14  <andythenorth> you had reasons why we can release now?
13:35:46  <planetmaker> you mean "can't"? None other than I'm basically off now :-)
13:36:25  <andythenorth> compatibility with stable...
13:36:38  <planetmaker> I don't care :-)
13:37:04  <andythenorth> hmm
13:37:10  <andythenorth> I do, dunno why
13:37:13  <andythenorth> talk me into it :P
13:38:36  <planetmaker> tbh, I would rather people play with the 1.2.0-beta1 or newer
13:38:47  <planetmaker> we need testing for that, so that 1.2.0 will be well-tested
13:39:47  <andythenorth> does bananas tell players they need to upgrade their ottd when a grf needs newer version?
13:40:18  <planetmaker> no.
13:40:33  <andythenorth> ho hum
13:40:54  <andythenorth> don't we just get lots of questions about why we pulled FIRS from bananas?
13:41:38  <planetmaker> we won't
13:41:41  <planetmaker> as we didn't pull it
13:42:00  <planetmaker> people who don't have it or need it for a server, won't see it
13:42:07  <planetmaker> people who need it for a server will get it
13:42:11  <planetmaker> people with new OpenTTD will get it
13:42:45  <planetmaker> and for me personally the strongest argument is: I want to see results. Releases are results and highly motivating
13:42:51  <planetmaker> working in a dark chamber is not for me
13:43:02  <andythenorth> moi aussi :P
13:43:03  <planetmaker> and double grfIDs is too messy for my taste
13:44:07  <andythenorth> what version are we releasing?
13:44:31  <andythenorth> we're not at a point where all issues for 0.8.0 are done
13:44:46  <andythenorth> so we could do a 0.7.x release - and I'll move some tickets...
13:45:06  <planetmaker> I'd say 0.7.0-beta2
13:45:42  <andythenorth> not 0.7.0?
13:46:00  <andythenorth> can you look at the state of the branches?
13:46:00  <planetmaker> I'd not mind. That's mostly your call
13:46:05  <andythenorth> I'll look at tickets
13:46:18  <planetmaker> In principle yes, but not today anymore
13:46:36  <andythenorth> there's a 0.7.0 milestone
13:46:37  <andythenorth>
13:46:45  <andythenorth> I'll move tickets to that for release
13:48:26  <planetmaker> well. I didn't think of doing many tickets before this release. Basically a snapshot of what we have
13:48:49  <planetmaker> with bit of polish
13:49:01  <andythenorth> I've done some for 0.8.0 already ;)
13:49:08  <andythenorth> we might need to faff with backports or such
13:49:14  <andythenorth> or just ignore the branch for 0.7.x
13:49:23  <planetmaker> I'll look at that and decide
14:13:00  <planetmaker> have a merry Christmas everyone
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17:42:15  <Brot6> opengfx: update from r874 to r875 done (1 warnings) -
17:52:09  <Brot6> cets: update from r439 to r441 done (217 warnings) -
17:54:35  <Brot6> bandit: compile of r27 still failed (#3303) -
17:55:22  <Brot6> nutracks: compile of r210 still failed (#3387) -
17:56:27  <Brot6> dutchtramset: compile of r87 still failed (#3355) -
18:35:50  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 28:7fa4e15c0b79: Change: progress on templating vehicles (andythenorth) @
18:37:48  <Brot6> bandit: compile of r28 still failed (#3303) -
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18:40:59  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 29:d50c6207983a: Codechange: use a file for undefines (andythenorth) @
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18:42:26  <Brot6> bandit: compile of r29 still failed (#3303) -
18:43:44  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 30:33b7d8fef6ba: Fix: hg was ignoring license and changelog files (this should ... (andythenorth) @
18:45:08  <Brot6> bandit: update from  to r30 done -
18:46:10  <andythenorth> no more BANDIT errors \o/
19:02:32  <Brot6> 32bpp-ez-patches: compile of r23668 still failed (#2446) -
20:29:58  <Brot6> BANDIT - Bug #3303 (Closed): DevZone compile failed (andythenorth) @
20:48:41  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 31:78987f7a3e4a: Codechange: more templated props (andythenorth) @
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21:27:47  <Brot6> GRFCodec - Feature Request #3397 (New): nforenum fatal error with new refit properties (andythenorth) @
21:33:57  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1772:7d37d9680e95: Fix: off by one in RV cargo refit properties (andythenorth) @
21:40:22  <Ammler> hmm, do we still need grfcodec if there is no grfcrawler?
21:40:44  <Ammler> hello andythenorth, all lego build?
21:41:02  <andythenorth> Ammler: UK presents come tomorrow
21:41:13  <Ammler> ah indeed
21:41:13  * andythenorth needs grfcodec :P
21:41:27  * Ammler is said about eis_os
21:41:39  <andythenorth> he seems to be upset by something
21:41:40  <Ammler> but it is a good example how unlicensed software ends
21:42:03  <Ammler> maybe the wiki transfer
21:42:25  <Ammler> but imo, orudge made it wrong
21:42:41  <Ammler> if he would just continue the hosting of it, it would not be stealing
21:42:53  <Ammler> as he hosts it already, he is kind of owner already
21:43:08  <Ammler> I mean, nobody could come and say, stop hosting bandit
21:43:34  <Ammler> or firs or whatever, also if you would not have it licended
21:43:47  <Ammler> everything on my server belongs to me, if not licensed
21:43:49  <andythenorth> gpl ftw
21:44:09  <Ammler> yes, but grfcrawler is on orudes server
21:44:14  <andythenorth> Ammler: you might have the code, but unless you have a license to operate that's not yours
21:44:19  <Ammler> so eis_os can not rule about
21:44:46  <Ammler> well, might depend how they speak about
21:44:47  * andythenorth -> back to trucks
21:45:04  <andythenorth> I tried to figure a way to hack a grf-crawler replacement
21:45:11  <andythenorth> couldn't think of one
21:45:15  <andythenorth> not quickly anyway
21:45:19  <Ammler> that's what I meant that orudge made it wrong about on the forums, as he told if he would simply continue, it would be stealing, which it isn't
21:46:19  <Ammler> I wonder, if I shall write about on the forums...
21:46:44  <Ammler> maybe eis_os paid for it, dunno
21:47:29  <Ammler> andythenorth: basically no need
21:47:42  <Ammler> it would be easier to extend bananas imo
21:48:10  <Ammler> well, the only issue with banans is the stupid rule, that only authors can make a entry
21:48:41  <Ammler> on grfcrawler, author and owner could be different people
21:53:58  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 32:caf8a51e61d6: Codechange: template further props, including cargos (andythenorth) @
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22:07:13  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #3398 (New): Docs refer to "NO_CLIMATES" instead of "NO_CLIMATE" (andythenorth) @
22:08:13  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 33:d89791e3cd35: Codechange: further templates, including test trailer template (andythenorth) @
22:45:57  <Yexo> andythenorth: if you use ssh you can push to every repository
22:46:06  <Yexo> doesn't mean you should always do that, but ok :)
22:46:07  <andythenorth> oh the power :D
22:46:15  <andythenorth> is my fix valid?
22:46:15  <Yexo> your fix today to nml was correct, so thanks :)
22:46:35  <andythenorth> I stand slightly more chance of fixing nml than grfcodec / nforenum ;)
22:46:36  <Yexo> for less obvious things I'd rather see a diff on the issue tracker than this way, but now it was fine
22:46:45  <andythenorth> np
22:47:01  <Yexo> I'm surprised nforenum doesn't support it yet
22:47:37  <Yexo> hmm, it should since r845
22:47:41  <Yexo> which version do you have?
22:47:53  <andythenorth> r849
22:48:19  <Yexo> any set that uses those props?
22:48:48  <andythenorth> I tested it for HEQS, but reverted
22:48:49  <andythenorth> hmm
22:48:56  <andythenorth> should have attached a patch :P
22:49:09  <Yexo> np, will test with some output from nml
22:53:16  <Yexo> no nforenum warning/error on those new refit properties for me
22:53:34  <andythenorth> hmm
22:53:42  <andythenorth> maybe I have a rogue nforenum
22:53:46  <andythenorth> or maybe my code is bad
22:54:14  <andythenorth> --version tells me r849
22:54:36  <Yexo> same as I have, last version
22:54:52  <andythenorth> maybe the format of my code is wrong
22:54:52  <Yexo> so probably a small error in your code
22:55:16  <andythenorth>
22:55:23  <andythenorth> probably I have the format wrong for those props
22:55:42  <Yexo> that looks ok
22:55:57  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #3398 (Closed): Docs refer to "NO_CLIMATES" instead of "NO_CLIMATE" (andythenorth) @
22:55:58  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #3398 (Closed): Docs refer to "NO_CLIMATES" instead of "NO_CLIMATE" (yexo) @
22:56:11  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 34:0e3048673cc7: Docs: update spec (andythenorth) @
22:56:11  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 35:8aa75250e3d5: Codechange: further commenting and templating (andythenorth) @
22:56:27  <Yexo> my nforenum doesn't complain about that code
22:56:40  <Yexo> I only replaced THIS_VEH_ID with a number so it would validate, but otherwise I left it unaltered
22:56:40  <andythenorth> mine tells me //!!Fatal Error (47): Offset 24: Invalid property 24.
22:56:45  <andythenorth> hmm
22:56:50  <andythenorth> maybe I have multiple nforenums
22:58:07  <andythenorth> can only find one :P
22:59:03  <Yexo> after you build heqs, you have a final nfo file, right?
22:59:13  <andythenorth> yup
22:59:15  <Yexo> what happens if you run nforenum on that manually (ie without makefile?)
23:00:17  <andythenorth> linter failure
23:00:26  <andythenorth> grfcodec builds it nonetheless though
23:00:47  <Yexo> linter failure points to a more serious problem with the nfo
23:00:55  <Yexo> anyway, too late for today :)
23:01:01  <andythenorth> also it's christmas :)
23:01:16  <Yexo> merry christmas :)
23:01:16  <andythenorth> probably my .dat file is outdated or such
23:01:21  <andythenorth> happy christmas
23:01:41  <Yexo> "rm -r ~/.nforenum" or "rm -r ~/.renum" might help in that case
23:01:44  <Yexo> but I'm off
23:01:56  <andythenorth> bye ;\)
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23:37:04  <Brot6> BANDIT - Feature #3399 (New): Consider concatenating identifier for vehicle name string with CPP (andythenorth) @
23:38:10  <Brot6> BANDIT - Feature #3400 (New): Consider templating spritegroups / spritesets (andythenorth) @
23:38:59  <Brot6> BANDIT - Feature #3401 (New): Buy menu text (andythenorth) @
23:42:37  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 36:86273b59898c: Change: add a name for test vehicle (andythenorth) @
23:42:37  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 37:dcfd8bdf85dd: Codechange: update various comments etc (andythenorth) @

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