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(oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/522bef9b672b 01:36:47 <Brot6> cets: update from r480 to r481 done (532 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/push/r481 01:36:48 <Brot6> Unable to connect to http://dev.openttdcoop.org/sys/: execution expired 06:49:45 *** JVassie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:15:51 *** JVassie has quit IRC 07:59:08 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:11:38 <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3468: NS 450 (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3468#change-9104 08:19:11 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 12:16:00 <Brot6> Chill's PatchPack - Bug #3487 (New): Speedsignals and PBS reservations (welshdragon) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3487 12:38:18 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Feature #3488 (New): Productions, max productions and stuff (V453000) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3488 13:24:41 *** Mark has quit IRC 13:24:52 *** [1]Mark has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 13:24:59 *** [1]Mark is now known as Mark 14:23:21 <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Revision 482:b2c662a4ec27: fix: ET 831 sprite errors, improve a ittl... (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/cets/repository/revisions/b2c662a4ec27 14:33:13 <Brot6> FIRS Industry Replacement Set - Support #3489 (New): Primary productions and supply requirements (Mark) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3489 14:37:27 <Brot6> cets: update from r481 to r482 done (517 warnings) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cets/push/r482 15:18:13 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:39:17 *** ToniBabelony has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 16:39:24 <ToniBabelony> Hello all 16:40:13 <ToniBabelony> I'm currently trying to compile NML on OSX 10.5.8, but I don't know where to begin. Could anyone help me out on this one? 16:47:54 <planetmaker> hm... it's python which usually does not need compilation. But just installation 16:48:45 <planetmaker> andythenorth, devised something with the bootstrap modules which supposedly makes it easy 16:49:03 <planetmaker> to also get the dependencies 16:49:28 <planetmaker> do you have the OSX development tools installed? 16:49:41 <planetmaker> (XCode and stuff) 16:50:12 <andythenorth> planetmaker: I'll let you advise if that's ok (unless it's something you don't know) 16:50:18 <andythenorth> it's confusing when n people give instructions ;) 16:50:33 <planetmaker> andythenorth, I never really got familiar with the bootstrap thing. Nor did I use it ever 16:50:47 <andythenorth> you probably installed all deps manually? 16:50:51 <planetmaker> yes 16:51:01 <planetmaker> macports helped a lot 16:51:10 <planetmaker> sudo port install ... 16:51:13 *** ODM has quit IRC 16:51:32 <planetmaker> and then I have all python things I need. And then I put the nmlc dir via symlink into the search dirs 16:51:38 <planetmaker> Never touch a running system ;-) 16:52:22 <planetmaker> I'd rather have you explain the bootstrap thing. You obviously know how it's supposed to work 16:52:26 <planetmaker> and you use it 16:52:32 <andythenorth> it only needs run once usually 16:52:36 <andythenorth> I'm just checking it still works 16:52:51 <andythenorth> if it doesn't....I just broke my nml, so we'll have to figure something out anyway :P 16:53:21 <andythenorth> yup 16:53:23 <andythenorth> broke my nml :P 16:53:26 <ToniBabelony> I have Xcode installed (version 3.1.4) 16:55:38 <andythenorth> ToniBabelony: do you have python? (type 'python' in a prompt to find out 16:56:18 <ToniBabelony> @andythenorth: yes, I do have python 16:56:27 <andythenorth> what version is it reporting? 16:56:27 <ToniBabelony> yes, I do have python 16:56:45 <ToniBabelony> 2.5 16:56:54 <andythenorth> should work 16:56:54 <ToniBabelony> that's sufficient IIRC 16:56:57 <andythenorth> mine is 2.6 16:57:07 <andythenorth> try 'python bootstrap.py' in your nml directory 16:57:12 <ToniBabelony> okay 16:57:18 <andythenorth> should fetch some stuff 16:57:39 <andythenorth> maybe a line like "Generated script '/Users/andy/Documents/OTTD_graphics/tools/nml/bin/buildout'." 16:57:41 <V453000> hello Toni :) 16:58:50 <ToniBabelony> hmm, 'python bootstrap.py' generated: Couldn't open /Users/albohelm/Desktop/nml-r1785/buildout.cfg 16:58:55 <ToniBabelony> strange 16:59:05 <ToniBabelony> there is no buildout.cfg to be found anyway 16:59:52 <andythenorth> it's present in the repo 16:59:53 <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository 17:00:00 <andythenorth> if you did a checkout you should have it 17:00:09 <ToniBabelony> aaah, now I see 17:00:24 <ToniBabelony> I downloaded nml-r1785.src.tar.gz at first 17:01:27 <Ammler> andythenorth: you should report it, I guess, the cfg is simply forgotten in Manifest 17:01:44 <andythenorth> indeed 17:01:58 <ToniBabelony> ah, so I don't have to feel stupid about that? :P 17:02:58 <andythenorth> ToniBabelony: do a checkout, or download the file manually 17:03:01 <andythenorth> checkout is better 17:03:07 <ToniBabelony> already compiling it ;) 17:03:17 <andythenorth> it worked? 17:03:20 <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature #3490 (New): buildout.cfg may be missing from nml download (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3490 17:03:56 <ToniBabelony> I did this: 5ED2C718:nml-vogel albohelm$ make bundle python bootstrap.py Creating directory '/Users/albohelm/Desktop/nml-vogel/bin'. Creating directory '/Users/albohelm/Desktop/nml-vogel/parts'. Creating directory '/Users/albohelm/Desktop/nml-vogel/eggs'. Creating directory '/Users/albohelm/Desktop/nml-vogel/develop-eggs'. Generated script '/Users/albohelm/Desktop/nml-vogel/bin/buildout'. 17:04:09 <andythenorth> good 17:04:19 <ToniBabelony> need I do more? 17:04:19 <andythenorth> then do './bin/buildout' 17:04:23 <ToniBabelony> ok 17:04:24 <andythenorth> and maybe make a cup of tea 17:04:28 <ToniBabelony> hahaha 17:04:31 <ToniBabelony> will do 17:04:32 <andythenorth> it should fetch PIL and PLY and other deps 17:04:38 <andythenorth> or it will fail, and I will be sad and confused :P 17:04:48 <andythenorth> if this fails, there are other solutions 17:05:49 <Ammler> ToniBabelony: developing newgrfs with vcs hg wouldn't hurt 17:05:55 <Ammler> so just use it also for nml 17:05:57 <ToniBabelony> PIL has been done 17:06:07 <ToniBabelony> now waiting for PLY 17:06:29 <ToniBabelony> what is vcs hg? 17:06:52 <ToniBabelony> something like Xcode? 17:07:01 <Ammler> it is the most used version constrol system in openttd 17:07:34 <Ammler> afaik xcode is a just a bundle of development tools for mac 17:07:43 <ToniBabelony> ah yes, that's true 17:08:34 <ToniBabelony> ah damn, error while compiling... 17:08:54 <ToniBabelony> (...) File "/Users/albohelm/Desktop/nml-vogel/nml/ast/font.py", line 17, in <module> from nml.actions import action12 File "/Users/albohelm/Desktop/nml-vogel/nml/actions/action12.py", line 17, in <module> from nml.actions import base_action, real_sprite File "/Users/albohelm/Desktop/nml-vogel/nml/actions/real_sprite.py", line 19, in <module> import os, Image ImportError: No module named Image make: *** [001_a 17:11:05 <planetmaker> sounds like PIL not installed or found 17:11:19 <andythenorth> grr 17:11:21 <andythenorth> buildout is only magic when it works :( 17:11:39 <andythenorth> does sound like PIL 17:11:55 <andythenorth> 'worked for me' is no help to you here (I just fixed my nml) 17:12:09 <andythenorth> fwiw, I built with python 2.6.1 17:12:15 <Ammler> andythenorth: why not simply do a "pip install pil" 17:12:16 <ToniBabelony> so, what is the other solution to this? *sorry, I'm a total noob when it comes to these things* 17:12:21 <Ammler> then "pip install ply" 17:12:27 <Ammler> then pip install nml 17:12:36 <andythenorth> Ammler: probably valid in this case 17:12:58 <andythenorth> buildout is better when you have multiple python projects as it doesn't install to your system python location 17:13:07 <andythenorth> ToniBabelony: do you develop a lot of python apps? :P 17:13:08 <Ammler> I guess, the buildout is wrong configured 17:13:49 <ToniBabelony> andythenorth: no, I'm already happy that I can patch and compile OpenTTD 17:13:56 <andythenorth> :) 17:14:06 <andythenorth> Ammler: is pip a dependency? 17:14:28 <andythenorth> I don't have it installed, I guess it has to be installed 17:15:11 <ToniBabelony> couldn't someone send me an OSX binary? I think that would make things a lot easier :P 17:15:33 <Ammler> andythenorth: or easy_install, dunno 17:15:47 <andythenorth> planetmaker: does nmlc have a binary? afaik it needs the deps always? 17:15:49 <Ammler> pip is part pypi 17:16:21 <planetmaker> ToniBabelony, there is no exact binary 17:16:28 <ToniBabelony> ah, I see 17:16:33 <planetmaker> nmlc itself is a script. As is all the python files 17:16:42 <andythenorth> planetmaker: how did you install PIL? 17:16:45 <planetmaker> it "just" needs setup such that it is found where you need it 17:16:45 <andythenorth> if you recall... 17:16:55 <planetmaker> andythenorth, sudo port install python-pil 17:17:01 <planetmaker> or however that package is called 17:17:08 <planetmaker> py-pil dunno 17:17:27 <planetmaker> same with ply 17:17:33 <andythenorth> so needs macports.... 17:17:50 <andythenorth> ToniBabelony: let's try it the longer way (it's a one off if it works) 17:17:58 <andythenorth> install macports if not already installed http://www.macports.org/ 17:17:59 <Webster> Title: The MacPorts Project -- Home (at www.macports.org) 17:18:16 <ToniBabelony> ok 17:18:51 <andythenorth> planetmaker: I have to leave in 15 mins, but I don't see why ports wouldn't work 17:19:10 <andythenorth> unless it's PIL *failing to bloody build as PIL is prone to* 17:19:46 <ToniBabelony> installing macports atm 17:20:13 <planetmaker> I guess we really should fix the bootstrap thingy, though 17:20:21 <planetmaker> good that it has been tested again :-) 17:20:21 <andythenorth> ideally 17:20:32 <andythenorth> I don't have python 2.5 17:20:37 <andythenorth> I could install it I guess :P 17:21:38 <andythenorth> planetmaker: does the buildout run for you? 17:21:54 <planetmaker> I can't test now. laptop is at home 17:21:55 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:22:04 <planetmaker> and I didn't test since we added it to the repo 17:22:15 <andythenorth> k 17:23:20 <ToniBabelony> macports installation is done 17:23:49 <planetmaker> I guess you need the ports python, python-pil and python-ply 17:23:54 <planetmaker> port search python 17:23:59 <planetmaker> will give you the exact name 17:24:07 <Ammler> planetmaker: the whole thing does also not work with windows afaik 17:24:45 <Ammler> I do not like the buildout adempt 17:24:52 <Ammler> it should be an addition 17:25:13 <Ammler> usual people should be able to install nml via setup.py 17:25:17 <planetmaker> do you find a suitable package, ToniBabelony 17:25:18 <planetmaker> ? 17:25:28 <planetmaker> well. maybe that works? 17:25:53 <ToniBabelony> a suitable package? you mean the version of macports? 17:26:15 <planetmaker> no, python 17:26:25 <ToniBabelony> I have downloaded the 2.0.3 release 17:26:27 <planetmaker> did you run "port search python" 17:26:44 <planetmaker> and port search ply 17:26:48 <planetmaker> and port search pil 17:27:08 <Brot6> nml: update from r1785 to r1786 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/r1786 17:27:30 <ToniBabelony> oh ok 17:28:54 <ToniBabelony> I have 1396 ports for pyhton 17:29:00 <ToniBabelony> 13 ports for ply 17:29:01 <planetmaker> :-D 17:29:09 <ToniBabelony> and 162 for pil 17:29:18 <andythenorth> Ammler: -ve for buildout: nobody knows how to maintain. +ve easier than setuptools 17:29:42 <andythenorth> fewer deps 17:29:49 <andythenorth> the problem is 99% likely that PIL is failing 17:29:58 <andythenorth> which means PIL will probably fail by other methods too 17:30:06 <andythenorth> but we shall see :) 17:30:10 * andythenorth has to go 17:30:12 <andythenorth> bbl 17:30:14 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 17:31:03 <planetmaker> ToniBabelony, can you make sense of the names to see which actually is a python, which is the corresponding ply and pil libraries? 17:31:46 <Ammler> andy, hmm gone 17:32:11 <ToniBabelony> I guess I could, but it'll take some time 17:32:24 <ToniBabelony> especially with so many python ports 17:33:31 <ToniBabelony> it's best to start with the 13 ply ports, hahaha 17:33:58 <planetmaker> maybe... as macports knows dependencies... it might install the proper python then as well :-) 17:34:13 <planetmaker> try port search py-pil 17:34:18 <planetmaker> might be more detailed 17:34:29 <planetmaker> then, if that's the package: 17:34:32 <planetmaker> sudo port install py-pil 17:34:38 <planetmaker> you'll need your admin password 17:36:07 <ToniBabelony> okay, installing now 17:36:14 <planetmaker> great 17:36:25 <ToniBabelony> py-pil 1.1.7 it is 17:36:36 <planetmaker> suggestion: I go home now. I'll then be back in 15 minutes, but I'll have my own mac at hand then ;-) 17:36:45 <ToniBabelony> okay cool 17:36:50 <ToniBabelony> cheers man! 17:36:59 <ToniBabelony> have a safe trip and thanks so far! 17:37:14 *** shadowzack has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:37:28 <shadowzack> !password 17:37:44 *** shadowzack has quit IRC 17:38:14 *** Zack_ has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:38:25 <planetmaker> ok, see you soon 17:38:30 <Zack_> !password 17:40:37 <Zack_> whats the password for the pro zone server? 17:49:39 <Ammler> Zack_: only for invite 17:50:11 <Ammler> you could download a save, if you like 17:51:20 <Ammler> http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/save/autosave/?C=M;O=D 17:51:20 <planetmaker> back 17:51:43 <planetmaker> ha. Exactly 15 minutes ;-) 17:52:43 *** Zack_ has quit IRC 17:53:02 <ToniBabelony> wow 17:53:06 <ToniBabelony> that's quick 17:53:30 <planetmaker> well. It's about 7 or 8 minutes by bike 17:53:32 <ToniBabelony> still busy with py-pil installation 17:53:36 <planetmaker> and there's only one traffic light 17:53:42 <ToniBabelony> ah cool, well yeah 17:54:03 <ToniBabelony> if there are no cars coming you can skim a few minutes off as well 17:54:30 <planetmaker> I can't cross that road at this time of the day w/o traffic light 17:54:39 <ToniBabelony> hahaha 17:54:57 <ToniBabelony> so you're not a frantic red light jumper? :o 17:56:11 <Ammler> he has also a car :-P 17:56:27 <Ammler> so he knows how annoying those bikers are 17:56:41 <ToniBabelony> I know man 17:56:55 <ToniBabelony> not owning a car, but I do know how annoying it is 17:56:57 <Ammler> (well, I assume :-D 17:57:01 <ToniBabelony> hahaha 17:57:41 <planetmaker> well. The road really is too busy. Or you'd wait more than at a traffic light 17:57:56 <ToniBabelony> I see what you did there 17:57:57 <planetmaker> It's one of the main roads to go into or out of town. 17:58:53 <frosch123> why does the coop grfpack 7.0 bundle "tempsnow.grf" ? 17:59:29 <frosch123> was there somewhen a patched ottd version which supported it? 17:59:44 <planetmaker> don't ask me :-) 17:59:56 <planetmaker> though: yes, there was. 18:00:09 <planetmaker> the wwottdgd/1 iirc had kinda all-climate patch 18:00:11 <frosch123> anyway, I am impressed by the static grffile check 18:00:32 <frosch123> i did not find a non-static grf that passed it 18:00:40 <planetmaker> congratz :-) 18:00:42 <frosch123> i really did not expect that :p 18:01:12 <ToniBabelony> tempsnow.grf sounds quite oldskool to me 18:01:14 <ToniBabelony> hehehe 18:01:37 <frosch123> hmm, it's by roujin 18:01:48 <frosch123> he also did patches, so maybe he had som 18:02:14 <Ammler> tempsnow was used for wwottdgd/21 18:02:17 <Ammler> 1* 18:02:28 <frosch123> ah, makes sense :) 18:05:20 <Ammler> well, iirc :-) 18:17:54 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:23:28 <planetmaker> ToniBabelony: does it still install? 18:23:36 <ToniBabelony> yep, still busy 18:23:54 <planetmaker> :S 18:26:27 <ToniBabelony> ah well, it's something that has to be done only once 18:26:36 <planetmaker> ToniBabelony: is python already installed on your machine? 18:26:41 <planetmaker> I mean w/o macports? 18:26:48 <planetmaker> http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/images/installingPIL.html#mac 18:26:50 <Webster> Title: Installing PIL - Google App Engine - Google Code (at code.google.com) 18:27:43 <planetmaker> http://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.7.2/python-2.7.2-macosx10.3.dmg 18:28:19 <ToniBabelony> I thought python came already with OSX 18:28:30 <ToniBabelony> but a newer version is always welcome 18:29:33 <planetmaker> well. if you do *have* one. Then skip installing a new one. for now at least 18:29:43 <planetmaker> I don't recall whether it's default install 18:29:56 <planetmaker> if you open an xtern: does typing python do anything? 18:29:59 <ToniBabelony> I read that somewhere 18:30:11 <planetmaker> well. check it ;-) 18:30:12 <ToniBabelony> ok 18:31:56 <planetmaker> default actually is also uninteresting. the question only is: do you have it? :-) 18:32:10 <ToniBabelony> yes, there are already python files on my computer that are a few years old 18:32:20 <planetmaker> and can you start python? 18:32:25 <planetmaker> via xterm? 18:34:42 <planetmaker> xterm = command line 18:35:24 <ToniBabelony> can I do that while terminal is installing py-pil? 18:35:55 <Ammler> just open a new one 18:36:01 <ToniBabelony> ok 18:36:41 <ToniBabelony> I have to go to dinner 18:36:50 <ToniBabelony> probably back tomorrow 18:36:53 <planetmaker> bon appetit 18:37:00 <planetmaker> oh. well. then good night 18:37:05 <ToniBabelony> cheers and thanks for now! 18:37:10 <planetmaker> and see you tomorrow 18:37:26 <ToniBabelony> see you tomorow! 18:37:33 <ToniBabelony> I hope at least 18:37:39 <ToniBabelony> I'm very busy with other stuff 18:37:48 <ToniBabelony> anyway, see you! 18:37:54 *** ToniBabelony has quit IRC 18:38:29 <planetmaker> lol There seems to be a Swiss pocket knife with a 1TB stick included 18:39:05 <planetmaker> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Schweizer-Taschenmesser-mit-1-TByte-Flash-Speicher-1406010.html 18:40:06 <planetmaker> aaahhh "for frequent flyers Victorinox plans to offer it also without a blade" 18:43:06 <Ammler> he, I thought, the swiss poket knifes don't matter as weapon 18:48:38 <frosch123> a knife without knife? :p 18:55:07 <planetmaker> that's what I thought, too. A knife w/o a knife but a usb stick. Could be called usb stick in the first place ;-) 20:15:43 *** JVassie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:27:35 <Brot6> Japanese Tracks - Revision 5:e0ed854ac87e: Add 3rd rail railtypes in Non-Japanese mode (3RDR,3RDC... (dandan) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/jptracks/repository/revisions/e0ed854ac87e 20:42:50 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 20:45:31 *** ODM has quit IRC 20:47:14 <andythenorth> did Toni get nml working? 20:49:49 <planetmaker> not before he had to leave 20:50:14 <planetmaker> thus: mainly we didn't get through it all yet. He promised to return tomorrow to continue 22:28:15 *** ToniBabelony has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:28:30 <ToniBabelony> Hello, I've returned for a bit 22:29:10 <ToniBabelony> are andythenorth and planetmaker still here? 22:29:39 <andythenorth> yup 22:30:08 <andythenorth> my connection here is very unstable though :P 22:30:46 <andythenorth> ToniBabelony: how far did you get installing? 22:31:00 <ToniBabelony> the installation was finished in a good way 22:31:11 <ToniBabelony> I now have Python 2.4 I think 22:31:23 <planetmaker> and pil and ply? 22:31:29 <ToniBabelony> oh no, 2.7 22:31:29 <andythenorth> 2.4 might be too low a version? 22:31:42 <ToniBabelony> and py-pil was succesful too 22:31:46 <planetmaker> works, iirc 22:31:51 <ToniBabelony> version 1.1.7 22:32:10 <andythenorth> you used macports? 22:32:18 <planetmaker> meh. 2.4 is too low 22:32:21 <planetmaker> it needs 2.5 22:32:24 <ToniBabelony> I used Terminal 22:32:25 <planetmaker> up to 2.7 22:32:38 <ToniBabelony> no, I have 2.7, I checked 22:32:42 <planetmaker> good 22:32:54 <planetmaker> only python 2.5.x ... 2.7.x work for NML 22:33:02 <ToniBabelony> good :) 22:33:09 <andythenorth> I don't know the remaining steps 22:33:13 <ToniBabelony> hahaha 22:33:15 <andythenorth> there is a chance you might have enough 22:33:27 <andythenorth> or you might need further packages 22:33:32 <planetmaker> so you have ply and pil, both, ToniBabelony? 22:33:35 <ToniBabelony> shall I try and compile the checkout? 22:33:41 <andythenorth> yup 22:33:54 <planetmaker> if you have both... then you're basically done 22:33:57 <ToniBabelony> I have done the py-pil installation 22:34:07 <planetmaker> you also need py-ply 22:34:16 <ToniBabelony> do I need a py-ply? 22:34:17 <ToniBabelony> ah ok 22:34:29 <ToniBabelony> just with the same commands as before? 22:35:12 <ToniBabelony> what were they again? 22:36:32 <planetmaker> sudo port install py-ply 22:37:01 <ToniBabelony> thanks :) 22:37:24 <ToniBabelony> oh, that went quick 22:37:48 <planetmaker> you got python already. That was the big part 22:37:55 <ToniBabelony> awesome 22:38:27 <ToniBabelony> let's try and compile NML then :) 22:39:56 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest23511 22:39:56 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 22:40:15 <ToniBabelony> oh drats 22:40:19 <ToniBabelony> foiled again 22:40:32 <ToniBabelony> lipo: can't open input file: /var/folders/cw/cwG6s+a4GbmROxGpBYjjik+++TI/-Tmp-//ccRQ6CKy.out (No such file or directory) error: Setup script exited with error: command 'gcc-4.0' failed with exit status 1 An error occurred when trying to install PIL 1.1.7. Look above this message for any errors that were output by easy_install. While: Installing nml. Getting distribution for 'PIL==1.1.7'. Error: Couldn't install: PIL 1.1.7 22:40:45 <ToniBabelony> that's weird :s 22:41:06 <andythenorth> that's almost certainly why buildout also failed 22:41:15 <ToniBabelony> it's PIL 22:41:20 <andythenorth> PIL is a PITA 22:41:38 <ToniBabelony> what can be done about it? 22:41:50 <planetmaker> hm. 22:42:00 <planetmaker> what's your gcc version? 22:42:03 <planetmaker> gcc --version 22:42:19 <planetmaker> what does gcc_select give you? 22:42:26 <ToniBabelony> i686-apple-darwin9-gcc-4.0.1 (GCC) 4.0.1 (Apple Inc. build 5493) 22:42:56 <andythenorth> the buildout also tried to build PIL 1.1.7 22:43:06 <andythenorth> fwiw 22:44:42 <ToniBabelony> gcc_select isn't recognised as a command by terminal 22:45:14 *** Guest23511 has quit IRC 22:46:22 <planetmaker> hm, ok. But it's not gcc... got the same as I. 22:50:39 * andythenorth wonders if Pillow is maintained 22:50:52 <andythenorth> http://pypi.python.org/pypi/Pillow 22:50:53 <Webster> Title: Pillow 1.7.5 : Python Package Index (at pypi.python.org) 22:53:13 * andythenorth is stumped sorry 22:53:26 <andythenorth> I did build nml on 10.5.8 last year iirc 22:53:42 <andythenorth> and I have had various versions of PIL running on OS X for years 22:53:57 <andythenorth> but often it has been difficult 22:54:13 <ToniBabelony> is it maybe because I forgot some developer tools? 22:54:22 <andythenorth> possible, but unlikely 22:54:24 <ToniBabelony> I only installed Xcode and macports 22:54:36 <ToniBabelony> that should suffice, right? 22:54:41 <andythenorth> but you have gcc also 22:54:44 <andythenorth> which should be enough 22:55:07 <planetmaker> I don't think you forgot a dev tool 22:55:19 <ToniBabelony> it's strange the buildout tries to install PIL 1.1.7, since it's already there 22:55:38 <ToniBabelony> maybe I should run the py-pil installation again? 22:55:59 <andythenorth> ToniBabelony: you tried to run the buildout again? That's not needed :) 22:56:12 <andythenorth> the buildout is just to avoid manually installing the dependencies 22:56:17 <ToniBabelony> ah ok 22:56:19 <andythenorth> e.g. PIL, PLY etc 22:56:34 <andythenorth> because the buildout failed for PIL, you had to do it manually :( 22:56:45 <andythenorth> but you might find that you can now run make for nml 22:57:10 * andythenorth can't remember how to test nmlc 22:57:13 *** JVassie has quit IRC 22:59:39 <planetmaker> puh... I fear, ToniBabelony, there's really only the really hard way: Install ply and pil manually. Get the downloads and install them 22:59:50 <planetmaker> pil has a nice installer. ply seems to have it not 22:59:56 <planetmaker> but maybe you find one. 23:00:13 <planetmaker> I'm too tired right now to search myself. Tomorrow is another day 23:00:31 <ToniBabelony> okay, thanks for your help man 23:00:33 <planetmaker> when you have python installed with ply and pil. Then nmlc should work 23:00:42 <ToniBabelony> I'll look for a pil and ply installer then 23:00:50 <planetmaker> without further things done. 23:01:16 <ToniBabelony> well, i've learned a few things, that's gotta be worth a thing or two 23:01:22 <planetmaker> :-) 23:01:34 <planetmaker> And I learnt we should check buildout install again ;-) 23:01:41 <andythenorth> or scrap it :P 23:01:49 <planetmaker> what happened actually after you tried setup.py in the nml dir? 23:02:12 <andythenorth> buildout is very good, but only when someone knows how to maintain it. I don't. 23:02:36 <andythenorth> btw: http://www.brantsteen.com/blog/python-27-libjpeg-pil-on-osx/ 23:02:37 <Webster> Title: Python 2.7, libjpeg, PIL on OSX | Blog | Brant Steen (at www.brantsteen.com) 23:03:08 <ToniBabelony> hahaha 23:03:12 <andythenorth> might not be relevant, it's about libjpeg + PIL 23:03:26 <andythenorth> the problem I had with this last time is, if you search for 'PIL OS X python 2.x' (replace x with your version), you find a lot of results 23:03:28 <planetmaker> we rather need libpng + PIL ;-) 23:03:31 <andythenorth> some of which are useless 23:03:36 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 23:06:46 <ToniBabelony> planetmaker, do you mean 'open setup.py'? 23:07:04 <planetmaker> python setup.py 23:07:07 <planetmaker> yes 23:07:52 <ToniBabelony> with open setup.py I get: Traceback (most recent call last): File "setup.py", line 5, in <module> from setuptools import setup ImportError: No module named setuptools 23:08:06 <ToniBabelony> er, I mean with python setup.py 23:08:08 <andythenorth> you'd need setuptools 23:08:13 <andythenorth> it's a dependency :P 23:08:15 <ToniBabelony> with open setup.py it opens in python 23:14:46 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 23:14:52 <ToniBabelony> okay, setuptools has been installed 23:14:59 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 23:15:01 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 23:21:31 <ToniBabelony> anyway, let's continue this some other time 23:21:39 <ToniBabelony> I have to sleep as well 23:22:24 <ToniBabelony> cheers and thanks for the help so far! 23:22:34 <ToniBabelony> I'm not giving up on this! 23:22:44 <ToniBabelony> see you maybe tomorrow 23:22:51 *** ToniBabelony has quit IRC