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Log for #openttdcoop.devzone on 27th February 2012:
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00:17:55  <michi_cc> Done :)
00:18:52  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #3744 (New): 'replace' broken when used with a variable (michi_cc) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3744
00:36:14  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #3744 (New): 'replace' broken when used with a variable (michi_cc) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3744
00:36:33  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Bug #3743 (Rejected): DevZone compile failed (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3743
00:36:33  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Bug #3743 (Rejected): DevZone compile failed (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3743#change-9808
00:59:03  <Ammler> planetmaker: rised limit to 50M, no clue, if there are other settings needed
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07:42:32  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 299:50c3f19f29f8: Codechange: basic implementation of PixaSequence (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/50c3f19f29f8
08:01:36  <Brot6> Britrains (Python Scripted British Train Set for Openttd) - Feature #3721: British Rail Class 390... (Leanden) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3721#change-9813
08:35:21  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 300:d8d535be66eb: Codechange: add a comment; use Pixa classes for more of flat ... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/d8d535be66eb
08:35:21  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 301:7d57f7edd013: Codechange: draw some more of the flatbed using new methods; ... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/7d57f7edd013
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09:17:58  <planetmaker> Thanks, Ammler. We shall see
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10:24:12  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 302:4fd17292b128: Codechange: hide or show drawbar wheels (clunky clunky) (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/4fd17292b128
11:49:14  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 303:0df1a7b658fe: Codechange: clean up how drawbar dolly wheels are drawn, rest... (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/0df1a7b658fe
11:58:40  <Brot6> Britrains (Python Scripted British Train Set for Openttd) - Bug #3742 (Rejected): DevZone compile... (compiler) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3742
11:58:40  <Brot6> Britrains (Python Scripted British Train Set for Openttd) - Bug #3742 (Rejected): DevZone compile... (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3742#change-9814
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13:49:24  <Brot6> Britrains (Python Scripted British Train Set for Openttd) - Bug #3742 (Rejected): DevZone compile... (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3742#change-9814
14:38:30  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #3696: Cab cars (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3696#change-9815
14:40:51  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Bug #3745 (New): Articulated vehicle cost, power etc. summing doesn'... (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3745
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15:39:19  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #3744: 'replace' broken when used with a variable (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3744#change-9816
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16:32:17  <Rubidium> how can one dumb down "you may do A when not doing (B or C)" so that someone does not interpret that as: I'm not doing B (but I'm doing C), so I may do A?
16:39:21  <andythenorth> "If you're doing B, you can't do A.  If you're doing C, you can't do A"
17:14:11  <Brot6> grfcodec: update from r914 to r915 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/grfcodec/nightlies/r915
17:21:34  <Brot6> nml: update from r1846 to r1853 done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/nml/nightlies/r1853
17:46:08  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #3744 (Closed): 'replace' broken when used with a variable (michi_cc) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3744
17:46:08  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1854:b88a0ccbc96b: Fix #3744: only reduce start_id argument to re... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/b88a0ccbc96b
17:46:08  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Bug #3744 (Closed): 'replace' broken when used with a variable (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3744#change-9817
17:46:10  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Bug #3743 (Rejected): DevZone compile failed (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3743#change-9808
17:46:11  <Brot6> Britrains (Python Scripted British Train Set for Openttd) - Bug #3742 (Rejected): DevZone compile... (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3742#change-9814
17:48:18  <michi_cc> Yexo: Are you sure you wanted to commit all of r1854?
17:48:34  <Yexo> argh :(, no
17:48:50  <Yexo> I had a correct commit, than did qimport / qrefresh to edit the commit message to include the issue number
17:48:57  <Yexo> only that included nml/output_grf.py too :(
17:49:27  <Brot6> BANDIT - Revision 304:a1ce1cadde42: Codechange: use partial() to setup transforms to be called later (andythenorth) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/bandit/repository/revisions/a1ce1cadde42
17:50:13  <Yexo> Rubidium: if you check out r1854, build ogfxc_arctic.grf with exactly that version, grfcodec -d will crash when trying to decode it
17:50:20  <planetmaker> sthall I rollback on the server or will you just commit a partial revert?
17:50:36  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1855:e7b629e4ef20: Revert r1854: too much got comitted (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/e7b629e4ef20
17:50:41  <planetmaker> nvm :-)
17:56:44  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3746 (New): Coaches (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3746
17:56:44  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Feature #3746: Coaches (Voyager1) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3746#change-9818
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18:45:13  <Brot6> Britrains (Python Scripted British Train Set for Openttd) - Revision 17:7cdd07586496: Add: other ... (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/britrains/repository/revisions/7cdd07586496
18:48:18  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Revision 261:c307cddbcf20: Change: replace shorten_vehicle property by new len... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/c307cddbcf20
18:48:18  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Revision 262:baf4dc087597: Codechange: replace shorten_vehicle callback by new... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/baf4dc087597
18:48:18  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Revision 263:fe8539f5eb57: Codechange: replace SHORTEN_TO_* constant by numeri... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/fe8539f5eb57
18:48:22  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Revision 264:dd575e2b8541: Codechange: replace refittable_cargo_types property... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/dd575e2b8541
18:48:59  <Brot6> britrains: compile of r17 still failed (#3742) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/britrains/push/ERROR/r17
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18:53:10  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Revision 265:1ac8e781849a: Codechange: require OpenTTD 1.2.0-RC1 (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/1ac8e781849a
19:03:21  <Brot6> Britrains (Python Scripted British Train Set for Openttd) - Feature #3721: British Rail Class 390... (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3721#change-9819
19:05:17  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #3620: Force 32 bpp (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3620#change-9820
19:09:15  <planetmaker> Jupix, in none of the downloaded tars nor in the (dev) megapack itself I find license info for the sprites I downloaded. Where do I find that info? The dev megapack refers me to your website and the individual tars... but they come w/o any
19:10:05  <Brot6> GRFCodec - Revision 916:7dca5b4edd31: -Fix: add some extra boundary checks on tile decoding to ma... (Rubidium) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grfcodec/repository/revisions/7dca5b4edd31
19:11:00  <planetmaker> what do I miss?
19:11:42  <Brot6> Britrains (Python Scripted British Train Set for Openttd) - Support #3738: Multi-car consists (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3738#change-9821
19:12:53  <Yexo> thanks Rubidium :)
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19:15:52  <planetmaker> ah, Jupix, I see now. It's listed on your website, but only there. Could you please add the license file to the individual tars, too? Otherwise the tars are in violation of the GPL2.
19:17:26  <Brot6> Britrains (Python Scripted British Train Set for Openttd) - Support #3738: Multi-car consists (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3738#change-9821
19:17:56  <Yexo> planetmaker: I think (but not completely sure) that the tar contents is exactly as it's uploaded
19:18:18  <Brot6> Britrains (Python Scripted British Train Set for Openttd) - Support #3738: Multi-car consists (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3738#change-9821
19:18:49  <planetmaker> Might be true
19:19:31  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Revision 266:b83b345c1e04: Fix: make this work by removing the metro reference... (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/b83b345c1e04
19:19:31  <Brot6> Dutch Trains 2.0 - Revision 267:1a8bdbb67138: Release: trialrelease-2b (foobar) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/dutchtrains/repository/revisions/1a8bdbb67138
19:20:02  <Brot6> DACH Trains - Bug #3747 (New): DB BR 101 cannot pull ÖBB Intercity cars (Yoshi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3747
19:22:03  <Brot6> DACH Trains - Bug #3748 (New): ÖBB 1044 freight and IC support (Yoshi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3748
19:22:53  <Brot6> dutchtrains: update from trialrelease-2 to trialrelease-2b done - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/dutchtrains/releases/trialrelease-2b
19:23:04  <Brot6> DACH Trains - Bug #3749 (New): ÖBB 1142 freight and IC support (Yoshi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3749
19:24:59  <Brot6> DACH Trains - Feature Request #3492: Re460 early transported freight as well (Yoshi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3492#change-9822
19:26:12  <Brot6> DACH Trains - Feature Request #3750 (New): DB BR 146 freight support (Yoshi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3750
19:27:14  <Brot6> DACH Trains - Feature Request #3751 (New): DB BR 143 freight support (Yoshi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3751
19:27:58  <Brot6> DACH Trains - Feature Request #3752 (New): Unviersal freight support for other GRF (Yoshi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3752
19:28:54  <Brot6> DACH Trains - Feature Request #3753 (New): Taurus universal push/pull (Yoshi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3753
19:30:06  <Brot6> DACH Trains - Feature Request #3754 (New): CAT (Taurus+ coaches) (Yoshi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3754
19:31:32  <Brot6> DACH Trains - Feature #3755 (New): ALEX (Yoshi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3755
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19:58:12  <Jupix> planetmaker: tars are obsolete and useless now so I don't see the benefit?
20:00:47  <planetmaker> the benefit is that all GPL2 - licensed tars which can be downloaded without a license file are a license violation you're liable to
20:01:30  <planetmaker> but if you do not re-package the tars, it's tmwftlb
20:18:11  <Jupix> tmwftlb tbh
20:18:47  <Jupix> 95% of the tars will probably go in the bin in the next few months
20:19:29  <Jupix> the nightly thingy will probably get rm'd in march
20:35:32  <Brot6> GRFCodec - Revision 917:155c8bfdcf6b: -Fix: a compile warnings (I hope) (Rubidium) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grfcodec/repository/revisions/155c8bfdcf6b
20:38:55  <Brot6> GRFCodec - Revision 918:7f714e223636: -Fix: another compile warning (Rubidium) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grfcodec/repository/revisions/7f714e223636
21:34:36  <Hirundo> whoa... multi-sprite grf output seems to work (on my machine, that is)
21:35:23  <Rubidium> guess it's only 8bpp, ain't it?
21:36:50  <Hirundo> 32bpp also, if I force a blitter with openttd -b
21:40:36  <Rubidium> so you just need to set the right blitter in the A14
21:40:51  <Hirundo> That should happen, currently I'm investigating why it fails
21:40:54  <Rubidium> http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/Action14#GRF_colour_depth_.28.22INFO.22_-.3E_.22BLTR.22.29
21:41:31  <Rubidium> for what it's worth, it works with my scripted GRFs
21:42:50  <Hirundo> It was a stupid error in NML, missing 'global' statement
21:43:13  <Hirundo> Can I change blitter within ottd, except at startup?
21:43:31  <Rubidium> not manually
21:43:59  <Rubidium> but using a NewGRF that sets a BLTR 3 it should automatigically switch to the 32bpp blitter
21:50:10  <Hirundo> works now.. next: fix tile compression
21:50:42  <Yexo> it's not broken, just slightly unoptimal
21:50:53  <Yexo> or do you mean for 32bpp?
21:51:03  <Rubidium> I'd assume the latter ;)
21:51:04  <Hirundo> yes, for 32bpp
21:51:12  <Rubidium> as it'd be pretty broken with 32bpp ;)
21:51:36  <Yexo> perhaps disable it for now?
21:51:40  <Hirundo> I assume that for 32bpp, I'd need to check the alpha channel and consider pixels with alpha=0 transparent?
21:51:52  <Yexo> I'm trying to change the code so it works the same as grfcodec (to verify correctness)
21:51:57  <Rubidium> which is why I said some time ago that 32bpp EZ is actually two stages; first get the basics working with 8bpp EZ, then bolt 32bpp on top
21:51:58  <Yexo> see r1854/r1855
21:53:32  <Rubidium> Hirundo: in GRFCodec it's IsTransparent = !((has_mask && this->m) || (rgba && this->a))
21:53:59  <Rubidium> where has_mask is a boolean saying it has a mask and rgba tells it's a boolean for 32bpp sprite
21:55:19  <Rubidium> so if it's mask and m != 0, or if it's a 32bpp sprite and alpha != 0, then it's not transparent
21:55:54  <Rubidium> though for some reason I start to doubt the correctness of that
21:56:21  <Rubidium> frosch123 / michi_cc: is the above implementation for determining transparency in GRFCodec correct or not?
21:56:33  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Bug #3745: Articulated vehicle cost, power etc. summing doesn't work... (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3745#change-9823
21:57:46  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Bug #3745 (Assigned): Articulated vehicle cost, power etc. summing d... (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3745#change-9825
21:58:14  <Yexo> IsTransparent = (has_mask && !this->m) || (!has_mask && rgba && this->a==0xFF); <- that'd be my implementation
21:58:22  <Yexo> not sure if the last value should be 0xFF or 0
21:58:45  <Yexo> but I think yours fails when there is both an alpha channel and a mask
21:59:03  <Yexo> or is that not possible?
21:59:37  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #3717 (Assigned): Better custom articulation/other callbacks (Eddi) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3717#change-9826
21:59:58  <Rubidium> Yexo: that's possible and that's also the reason I wasn't quite sure about it
22:00:01  <michi_cc> OpenTTD spriteloader does the magic blue handling for pure palette sprites only.
22:00:25  <Rubidium> so if RGBA, only look at alpha
22:00:28  <michi_cc> So anything that is not a pure palette sprite should only look at the alpha channel.
22:00:45  <Yexo> than my code is wrong too
22:01:51  <frosch123> Rubidium: i would think alpha = 0 causes transparency independent of m
22:02:09  <Rubidium> so http://rbijker.net/openttd/change.diff ?
22:03:34  <frosch123> looks correct
22:04:26  <frosch123> i hope that also applies to png even if it is in pcxfile.h :)
22:04:34  <Rubidium> yep
22:04:47  <Rubidium> it's from CommonPixel ;)
22:04:57  <Brot6> GRFCodec - Revision 919:ba5e4983a06d: -Change: for RGBA sprites look at only the alpha for transp... (Rubidium) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grfcodec/repository/revisions/ba5e4983a06d
22:05:15  <Brot6> Central European Train Set - Feature #3717: Better custom articulation/other callbacks (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3717#change-9827
22:05:42  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1856:cd655963ed95: Change: tile compression to work exactly the s... (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/cd655963ed95
22:05:58  <Yexo> Hirundo: rewritten the tile compression, go ahead and fix it now for 32bpp ;)
22:06:19  <Yexo> after that we can verify with grfcodec, it should now give exactly the same results
22:09:41  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1851:92fe8b5bce03: Cleanup: Remove some dead code. (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/92fe8b5bce03
22:09:41  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Code Review #3741 (Closed): Tile (=chunked) compression (yexo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3741#change-9830
22:10:26  <Hirundo> Actually I have broken tile compression for 8bpp also on next commit
22:10:55  <Hirundo> fixing (the easy but messy way) would be quite easy, but not really useful at this point
22:11:50  <Yexo> Rubidium: how is the md5sum of a container v2 newgrf computed?
22:11:57  <Yexo> only over the data section?
22:12:00  <Yexo> is the header included?
22:14:30  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1857:8f415cb3ffad: Codechange: No longer set bit 0 (0x01) for rea... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/8f415cb3ffad
22:14:30  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1858:3c164f929f2c: Fix: Missing global caused 'please use 32bpp b... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/3c164f929f2c
22:14:30  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1859:0471d09ecb40: Feature #3712: Initial implementation of multi... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/0471d09ecb40
22:14:34  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Revision 1860:6954e50b811d: Add: Some 32bpp sprites to the vehicle regress... (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/revisions/6954e50b811d
22:14:53  <Hirundo> to my knowledge the todos are a) fix tile compression b) fix cropping an c) add support for masks
22:15:53  <Rubidium> Yexo: I think the header is included, but look at grfid for the gory details
22:15:57  <Brot6> NewGRF Meta Language - Feature Request #3712: New 32 bpp format (Hirundo) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3712#change-9831
22:16:00  <Yexo> ok
22:16:17  <michi_cc> Yexo: Everything up to the start of the sprite section.
22:16:25  <Yexo> thanks michi_cc  :)
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22:17:20  <Rubidium> Yexo: there's still a difference between grfcodec and nml, but it's minute (the 7f vs 80)
22:17:31  <Yexo> ah, that :)
22:17:37  <Yexo> I consider that an improvement :p
22:17:44  <Yexo> no intention to change that
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22:17:55  <Hirundo> then change grfcodec?
22:18:00  <Yexo> bigger problem: nml assers when encoding opengfx
22:20:04  <Hirundo> how / where?
22:20:15  <Yexo> in my new encode_tile code
22:20:17  <Rubidium> there... arctic is the same! ;)
22:20:20  <Yexo> easy to fix
22:21:00  <Brot6> GRFCodec - Revision 920:dd532987785b: -Change: squeeze possibly a tiny bit more compression, alth... (Rubidium) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/grfcodec/repository/revisions/dd532987785b
22:31:34  <Hirundo> Yexo: Feel free to pick up on #3712 and finish the remaining issues
22:31:34  <Brot6> Hirundo: Yexo: #3712 is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/show/3712 "NewGRF Meta Language - Feature Request #3712: New 32 bpp format - #openttdcoop Development Zone"
22:31:56  <Yexo> tile compression, cropping and masks?
22:32:02  <Yexo> might give it a shot tomorrow
22:32:06  <Yexo> for now: good night
22:32:10  <Hirundo> I won't be able to do so till Wednesday, probably Thursday
22:33:11  <planetmaker> g'night, Yexo
22:38:23  <Hirundo> goodnight all
22:40:21  <planetmaker> g'night Hirundo
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23:17:15  <Brot6> Britrains (Python Scripted British Train Set for Openttd) - Revision 18:76cb5f0906dd: Feature: mi... (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/britrains/repository/revisions/76cb5f0906dd
23:17:15  <Brot6> Britrains (Python Scripted British Train Set for Openttd) - Revision 19:08a507f60c26: Codechange:... (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/britrains/repository/revisions/08a507f60c26
23:21:51  <Brot6> britrains: compile of r19 still failed (#3742) - http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/britrains/push/ERROR/r19
23:22:16  <Brot6> Britrains (BROS based on CETS) - Revision 18:76cb5f0906dd: Feature: mirror of CETS revision 642 (... (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/britrains/repository/revisions/76cb5f0906dd
23:22:16  <Brot6> Britrains (BROS based on CETS) - Revision 19:08a507f60c26: Codechange: mirror of CETS revision 64... (oberhuemer) @ http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/britrains/repository/revisions/08a507f60c26

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