Times are UTC Toggle Colours
00:02:51 *** Zuu has quit IRC 06:35:41 *** JVassie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 07:11:40 *** JVassie has quit IRC 07:21:49 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:06:40 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 08:31:12 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 08:42:45 *** Zuu has quit IRC 12:21:08 <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/3828 <-- V453000 12:22:36 <V453000> thank you :) 12:23:58 <planetmaker> mind that you'll need to adjust the values of the parameter to nfo 12:24:02 <Ammler> planetmaker: I need to update openttd-openmsx for factory, is there a possible release? 12:24:23 <planetmaker> thus a default of 2221 is not in km/h but in something else... but maybe kmh-ish 12:25:12 <Ammler> mäh, just because the license string needs to be spdx 12:25:19 <planetmaker> Ammler: except that the build makefile doesn't install into baseset there's no issue, right? 12:25:47 <Ammler> I am not aware of any issue 12:26:10 <planetmaker> so... do we need a release? 12:26:18 <V453000> hm, well the 2221 already converts to 2222 in game, is that the -ish conversion ? :) 12:26:27 <planetmaker> dunno. maybe 12:26:44 <Ammler> planetmaker: ok, was just asking, then I will do this changes in the spec 12:26:58 <Ammler> I guess, I would need anyway 12:27:20 <planetmaker> ok. thx 12:53:16 <V453000> min_compatible_version: 0; how do I set this to 1.2? 12:54:08 <planetmaker> that is NOT the OpenTTD version 12:54:23 <V453000> oh :D 12:54:41 <planetmaker> it is for revisions of the very same newgrf 12:54:55 <planetmaker> thus backward compatibility to the same newgrf 12:54:57 <V453000> I see now 12:55:16 <planetmaker> thus what you need to do is: version = 1 (or whatever is higher than the current one you update) 12:55:39 <planetmaker> and min_compatible_version to whatever version can be updated in all cases without problem to this newgrf 12:56:01 <planetmaker> in case of doubt it need be the same as version 12:56:29 <V453000> I guess compatibility with openttd version is ... rather automatic? it either works or not 12:57:34 <V453000> so I will need to translate the GRFID="4D 47 06 01" right? 12:57:46 <planetmaker> ehm... usually that's not automatic. Of course it either works or not. But that's not user friendly 12:58:06 <planetmaker> GRFID="D" 12:58:13 <V453000> ok :) 12:58:28 <planetmaker> if the existing grfID is 4D470601 12:58:43 <V453000> I copied that from the nfo 12:58:54 <planetmaker> @base 16 10 4d470601 12:58:54 <Webster> planetmaker: 1296500225 12:59:28 <planetmaker> the openttd version needs to be set mostly in bananas to (dis)allow only the proper versions to download it 12:59:40 <planetmaker> no point downloading a newgrf you can't use after all 13:03:06 <planetmaker> wrt OpenTTD version: there's in this very particular case little reason to test the openttd version: newgrf container v2, newgrf specs v8 (and nfo v32) all are not supported by earlier openttd and will there unconditionally disable themselves as it's unknown file format for them 13:03:18 <planetmaker> but usually it also needs a version check. but not here 13:03:35 <V453000> :) right 13:03:37 <Ammler> well, you set the version so it hides form 1.1 13:04:19 <planetmaker> yes. only in bananas 13:04:22 <V453000> hmm I have an issue ... I have the engine re-draw based on current speed. But if I put multiple engines of the kind in 1 train, only the first engine redraws based on speed, rest stays at 0 speed state 13:04:33 <V453000> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/1224/ 13:05:03 <planetmaker> use switch (FEAT_TRAINS, PARENT, logicswitch, current_speed) { 13:05:14 <planetmaker> wagons have no speed. Only the leading engine 13:05:35 <V453000> oooh, parent 13:06:11 <V453000> amazing :-D thanks 13:07:53 <Ammler> V453000: also feel free to make a project, it's not too small :-P 13:08:26 <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/minigrfs <-- or put it here 13:10:40 <V453000> okay 13:10:45 <V453000> how do I make the package for the bananas? 13:10:53 <planetmaker> Ammler: isn't there a project for it? 13:11:05 <V453000> just zip and it will repackage, or do I need a way to create the tar gz? 13:11:10 <planetmaker> V453000: just zip the grf, the license, the readme and the changelog and upload that 13:11:10 <Ammler> planetmaker: don't think so 13:11:23 <V453000> alright 13:11:29 <Ammler> many of my grfs are just on the svntree 13:11:48 <planetmaker> hm, I see 13:12:19 <Ammler> well, in that case, it does not hurt anyway, as it is a new grf 13:19:04 <V453000> Ammler: why does logic train have "whatever" in tags? :D 13:19:27 <Ammler> does it also have "beer" there? 13:19:29 <V453000> on bananas :D 13:19:32 <V453000> not yet 13:20:03 <V453000> "sex" ... wtf? :D 13:20:29 <Ammler> well, cleanup please :-P 13:22:17 <V453000> unexpected error when uploading 13:22:19 <V453000> the what :-D 13:23:13 <V453000> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20419525/logic_0_7.zip 13:23:14 <V453000> why :z 13:24:51 <Ammler> try grf only 13:25:32 <V453000> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20419525/unhappyfruit.png this it does 13:25:42 <V453000> but that wont attach license and stuff, will it 13:25:50 <V453000> or ... is there a way to attach that afterwards 13:26:06 <Ammler> license is not needed 13:26:13 <Ammler> and the other stuff, well 13:26:26 <V453000> done 13:26:51 <Ammler> hmm, that worked? 13:27:08 <Ammler> so if previous version is grf only, no zip possible? 13:27:56 <V453000> that wouldnt make sense, changelog has to update too 13:28:24 <Ammler> well, I uploaded the grf only 13:28:33 <V453000> OMG! I was wondering why doesnt it show me to download engine from bananas, then realized I have it ... 13:28:38 <V453000> =D 13:28:45 <V453000> I did, too 13:29:13 <Ammler> so it could be, a update is not able to update a grf with a zip 13:29:46 <planetmaker> uhm... you could upload it, Ammler? 13:30:00 <planetmaker> and no, the form it was uploaded shouldn't matter 13:30:15 <planetmaker> but... it should be gpl v2 13:30:17 <planetmaker> not v3 13:30:34 <V453000> it was v3 originally 13:30:59 <Ammler> planetmaker: back that time, I had no clue about licenses and didn't care :-) 13:31:16 <planetmaker> well yes. But it can be changed every upload 13:31:33 <planetmaker> so you could have done now 13:31:38 <V453000> isnt gpl based on using the previous licence? 13:31:57 <Ammler> well, you made a new grf 13:31:59 <planetmaker> it is. But if you're the (only) author you can of course use any license 13:32:04 <Ammler> not based on my work 13:32:09 <planetmaker> or if ALL previous contributors agree 13:32:10 <V453000> hm :) true 13:32:46 <Ammler> is there no v2+ in the license menu? 13:33:02 <planetmaker> no 13:33:08 <planetmaker> but maybe there should be 13:33:19 <Ammler> well, there should also be version 1.2 13:33:24 <Ammler> :-) 13:33:33 <V453000> I will update it when I fix the parameter issue soon-ish 13:33:37 <planetmaker> exactly 17:44:47 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 17:53:53 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:08:24 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 18:49:32 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 19:15:44 *** JVassie has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 19:39:43 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:31:05 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.devzone 21:52:32 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:00:23 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.devzone 22:31:46 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 23:08:45 *** Zuu has quit IRC 23:12:44 *** JVassie has quit IRC